Share plunge

[Snopper]

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[Weston Super Saint]

Well, if shares are being sold, someone must be buying them

[ivangolac]

Well, if shares are being sold, someone must be buying them

 

 

I don't think it's our knight just yet with deals for 150 and 210 shares ........ a grand total of 90 quid

[Weston Super Saint]

I don't think it's our knight just yet with deals for 150 and 210 shares ........ a grand total of 90 quid

 

From tiny acorns......

[Window Cleaner]

From tiny acorns......

 

It's the 33000 odd trade that seems to have depressed the price.

Not a great sign, Only 22p bid, could be a stormy week, certainly no takeover.

[Roman]

From tiny acorns......

 

...you can't even play conkers.

[Weston Super Saint]

It's the 33000 odd trade that seems to have depressed the price.

Not a great sign, Only 22p bid, could be a stormy week, certainly no takeover.

 

On the other hand, someone bought 33,000 shares this week....

 

Maybe they're waiting until we get a 'full house', and then they'll give one share to everyone who attended :shock:

[Window Cleaner]

On the other hand, someone bought 33,000 shares this week....

 

Maybe they're waiting until we get a 'full house', and then they'll give one share to everyone who attended :shock:

 

Nah, for someone to dump like that it's either because they're in trouble and need whatever they can put their hands on or there's some bad rumours circulating (which we haven't heard yet). Could be the former though. A lot of people are getting very very panicky.

[Weston Super Saint]

Nah, for someone to dump like that it's either because they're in trouble and need whatever they can put their hands on or there's some bad rumours circulating (which we haven't heard yet). Could be the former though. A lot of people are getting very very panicky.

 

£7260 - less fees....

 

Must be in serious trouble if they can't get that from a bank...

[SaintRobbie]

Scooby - please note the shareholder's confidence in Mr Lowe.

 

Thank you.

[Window Cleaner]

£7260 - less fees....

 

Must be in serious trouble if they can't get that from a bank...

 

£8215.51 I think.

Banks??? They're too busy saving their pennies to buy sick banks to lend money to punters. The odd share number would suggest someone has cleaned out.Fortunes are being lost on the LSE, it's not the banks that are going to bail people out, not without substantial equity.

[saintwarwick]

Scooby - please note the shareholder's confidence in Mr Lowe.

 

Thank you.

 

Nothing to do with this but more to do with the gloomy economy what with the FTSE dropping below the 5000 mark. Shares across the board are struggling.

[alpine_saint]

Well, if shares are being sold, someone must be buying them

 

Maybe the fact the whole financial world has gone into a colossal panicking nose-dive waiting for the US Congress to get its political game-playing thumb-out-of its-arse has something to do with it ????

[70's Mike]

May be we will be Nationalised next .

[Window Cleaner]

May be we will be Nationalised next .

 

 

That'll be handy, we'll be like Austin-Morris in the 70's. Clock on,p!ss off to the pub, have a few games of darts, come back to clock off.

[boxosponge]

May be we will be Nationalised next .

 

No, no chance of us being Nationalised because only Northern business with loads of Labour voters get taken over.

 

Though Newcastle United, thats another matter

[Window Cleaner]

No, no chance of us being Nationalised because only Northern business with loads of Labour voters get taken over.

 

Though Newcastle United, thats another matter

 

Nigerians have put in a bid,probably about 34.5p.

[Snowballs2]

33,000 shares sold, it might be an idea for Rupes and mike to give them away at the turnstiles about 2 each for every person attending tomorrow nights game, as they are as cheap as chips at the moment it would not cost a fortune

[Big Dick Last]

A friend of mine was told by Fulthorpe at the weekend that the takeover is a couple of weeks away and there will be £20 million to spend in January !

 

I think it is a load of old ******** but thought I would post it on here for your amusement.

[70's Mike]

That'll be handy, we'll be like Austin-Morris in the 70's. Clock on,p!ss off to the pub, have a few games of darts, come back to clock off.

 

sounds like the saints team of the early 70's

[Weston Super Saint]

A friend of mine was told by Fulthorpe at the weekend that the takeover is a couple of weeks away and there will be £20 million to spend in January !

 

I think it is a load of old ******** but thought I would post it on here for your amusement.

 

And you couldn't have used the Fulthorpe thread :smt102

[Big Dick Last]

Sorry saw this thread 1st and jumped right in !!!!!

[Weston Super Saint]

Sorry saw this thread 1st and jumped right in !!!!!

 

No worries.

 

You could use your last post of the day to re-post it

[Bon Call Night]

That'll be handy, we'll be like Austin-Morris in the 70's. Clock on,p!ss off to the pub, have a few games of darts, come back to clock off.

 

If that's the case we have been nationalised for the last four years.

[Delmary]

I fear the events over the other side of the pond will dramatically affect the wellbeing of our club and other companies that are heavily geared with debt. Let's hope Fulthorpe can come to our rescue before the financial institutions decide our fate

[trousers]

I fear the events over the other side of the pond will dramatically affect the wellbeing of our club and other companies that are heavily geared with debt. Let's hope Fulthorpe can come to our rescue before the financial institutions decide our fate

 

It would appear to be a shame that part of Fulthorpe's funding comes from the States...

[benjii]

It would appear to be a shame that part of Fulthorpe's funding comes from the States...

 

Why?

 

Presumably it's private money.

[trousers]

Why?

 

Presumably it's private money.

 

Depends what the definition of 'private' is I guess? Most of my 'private' funds are held by 'public' companies.....in bank accounts, ISAs, Shares, etc....

[benjii]

Depends what the definition of 'private' is I guess? Most of my 'private' funds are held by 'public' companies.....in bank accounts, ISAs, Shares, etc....

 

Private, as in, they're yours. Your personal wealth. They're not borrowed.... I think I probably meant to type "personal" rather than "private"!

 

I suppose the current climate could have a bearing, but let's face it, anyone who was interested in any case is going to have to be willing to either waste a load of cash or borrow a load.

 

If it's the latter then hopefully the current situation does put them off as we don't want to go down that route IMO.

[bridge too far]

Depends what the definition of 'private' is I guess? Most of my 'private' funds are held by 'public' companies.....in bank accounts, ISAs, Shares, etc....

 

BTF in 'how to attract Trousers' attention 'cos he's rich' planning mode

 

Seriously, if it's US money, the dollar / sterling exchange rate means a US investor COULD pick us up for next to nothing - if they buy us in dollars that is :smt102

[Colinjb]

I doubt it will be just us who are starting to plummet in terms of value. Any club on the stock exchange who are not owned by a benefactor will now be feeling severe pressure.

[Wade Garrett]

Shares now being traded at 22p. Puts value of the club at just over £6 million.

[Weston Super Saint]

Shares now being traded at 22p. Puts value of the club at just over £6 million.

 

Only needs to reduce by another £3m and we should be priced about right....

[bridge too far]

Shares now being traded at 22p. Puts value of the club at just over £6 million.

 

Way back, in the dim and distant past, in the era formerly known as 'Paul Allen', didn't we speculate that Rupert would sell if the price dropped to around 20-25p?

 

Or is that my rose-tinted glasses at work again?

[Chez]

Shares now being traded at 22p. Puts value of the club at just over £6 million.

 

what short term loans/overdraft do we have in total?

[Chez]

Way back, in the dim and distant past, in the era formerly known as 'Paul Allen', didn't we speculate that Rupert would sell if the price dropped to around 20-25p?

 

Or is that my rose-tinted glasses at work again?

 

why would Lowe wait for the price to hit a low before selling, or do you mean if we hit that low he would be willing to sell at the 44p (or whatever it was) price?

[bridge too far]

why would Lowe wait for the price to hit a low before selling, or do you mean if we hit that low he would be willing to sell at the 44p (or whatever it was) price?

 

I think I meant to say that 20-25p was a realistic price (=£6m) rather than the hugely inflated price of 18 months ago.

 

You're right of course - he wouldn't WAIT for a low price but he might be more willing to consider a takeover if he saw that the share price was heading south.

[Window Cleaner]

I think I meant to say that 20-25p was a realistic price (=£6m) rather than the hugely inflated price of 18 months ago.

 

You're right of course - he wouldn't WAIT for a low price but he might be more willing to consider a takeover if he saw that the share price was heading south.

 

Doubt it actually. To his "group" and Wilde it probably matters little whether they lose 28p a share or 50p a share. Their money is history anyway so might as well carry on with the plan. Biggest loser is Crouch which ever way you cut it, he paid too high a price and his "cash loss" is now equal to or greater than Wilde's.

[thefunkygibbons]

hmm, down over 50% over the last year

 

However, looking at events in the banking world, one has to price in the risk of bankruptcy into the shares

 

Not worth buying an an investment, sentimental value only

[trousers]

Way back, in the dim and distant past, in the era formerly known as 'Paul Allen', didn't we speculate that Rupert would sell if the price dropped to around 20-25p?

 

 

If the Men in Black hadn't ordered the corruption of all TSF posts going back to April 2007 then we'd be able to look back and confirm it one way or t'other.

[um pahars]

Doubt it actually. To his "group" and Wilde it probably matters little whether they lose 28p a share or 50p a share. Their money is history anyway so might as well carry on with the plan. Biggest loser is Crouch which ever way you cut it, he paid too high a price and his "cash loss" is now equal to or greater than Wilde's.

 

Why the distinction between Wilde and Crouch here?

 

He may have paid slightly more than Wilde, but he also bought less, so actually Crouch's exposure is slightly less than Wildes.

 

Wilde's outlay was just over £2m, whilst Crouch's was just under tha figure. Additionally, and I'm guessing here, I reckon the exposure is far lower for Crouch than Wilde in terms of their net worth.

 

Lowe on the other hand has seen a big paper loss, but his outlay since the reverse takeover is about £350k, so his exposure is alot less.

[Norm]

That'll be handy, we'll be like Austin-Morris in the 70's. Clock on,p!ss off to the pub, have a few games of darts, come back to clock off.

 

 

I did this for 12 years at BR! Ah, the good old days. No wonder the country is going down the pan when we can't do this anymore:rolleyes:

[Window Cleaner]

I did this for 12 years at BR! Ah, the good old days. No wonder the country is going down the pan when we can't do this anymore:rolleyes:

 

No wonder the gates at St Mary's are going down as well if you can't go

and get paid by the Docks Board whilst you're there.

[Wade Garrett]

No wonder the gates at St Mary's are going down as well if you can't go

and get paid by the Docks Board whilst you're there.

 

How do you know we can't.

[bridge too far]

It's the 33000 odd trade that seems to have depressed the price.

Not a great sign, Only 22p bid, could be a stormy week, certainly no takeover.

 

I've just noticed that almost 60,000 have been sold in the past 4 days.

 

You can tell I'm bored...........

[OldNick]

Why the distinction between Wilde and Crouch here?

 

He may have paid slightly more than Wilde, but he also bought less, so actually Crouch's exposure is slightly less than Wildes.

 

Wilde's outlay was just over £2m, whilst Crouch's was just under tha figure. Additionally, and I'm guessing here, I reckon the exposure is far lower for Crouch than Wilde in terms of their net worth.

 

Lowe on the other hand has seen a big paper loss, but his outlay since the reverse takeover is about £350k, so his exposure is alot less.

yes but if LC paid £1 a share and Wilde 60p their ultimate losses are different.

Would LC be prepared to lose 75% of his money to sell the club or would he hold out for more?

[Weston Saint]

yes but if LC paid £1 a share and Wilde 60p their ultimate losses are different.

Would LC be prepared to lose 75% of his money to sell the club or would he hold out for more?

 

Actually Leon Crouch paid 65p per share whereas most of Michael Wildes was at 50p if memory serves me right.

 

I believe LC would be prepared to suffer a great loss for the good of the club (even though it would be a major blow to his net worth and one he would prefer not to see happen). I am not sure Wilde could afford the same "hit" even in relative terms. I am unaware of how Rupert Lowe would view the situation (and nor do other posters before they start spouting their bile).

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Actually Leon Crouch paid 65p per share whereas most of Michael Wildes was at 50p if memory serves me right.

 

I believe LC would be prepared to suffer a great loss for the good of the club (even though it would be a major blow to his net worth and one he would prefer not to see happen). I am not sure Wilde could afford the same "hit" even in relative terms. I am unaware of how Rupert Lowe would view the situation (and nor do other posters before they start spouting their bile).

 

You finish up very strangely by saying people who might voicie an opinion about Lowe's view would be spouting bile, but you are able to voice opinions on how you think Wilde and Crouch would view things.

 

I don't think Lowe wants to dispose of his shares, full stop. My opinion, but is it bile?

[redandwhitey]

How about the theory that one of the existing major share holders is buying at the current low rate, so that any increase to around the 30p mark will offset the losses made on the 50p or 65p purchases ?? will completely blow it if the price continues to drop I know, but........

[Weston Super Saint]

Actually Leon Crouch paid 65p per share whereas most of Michael Wildes was at 50p if memory serves me right.

 

I believe LC would be prepared to suffer a great loss for the good of the club (even though it would be a major blow to his net worth and one he would prefer not to see happen). I am not sure Wilde could afford the same "hit" even in relative terms. I am unaware of how Rupert Lowe would view the situation (and nor do other posters before they start spouting their bile).

 

To be fair, he's already taken a hit on his 'net worth' when the shares he bought for 65p were devalued to about 22p each.