aintforever Posted 8 August, 2010 Share Posted 8 August, 2010 (edited) last time I checked....terrorists never assasinated hundreds of swedes in one go..? That was just an example, people from many countries died in 9/11. It's either a Worldwide problem or it's not. If Cortese was in charge of our armed forces he would have pulled out immediately and sent the rest of Europe an invoice for work undertaken on their behalf. Edited 8 August, 2010 by aintforever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 8 August, 2010 That was just an example, people from many countries died in 9/11. It's either a Worldwide problem or it's not. If Cortese was in charge of our armed forces he would have pulled out immediately and sent the rest of Europe an invoice for work undertaken on their behalf. ok...the americans lost most lives..then the UK did etc etc etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 8 August, 2010 Share Posted 8 August, 2010 ok...the americans lost most lives..then the UK did etc etc etc..... So what, if there had been a Swedish company on floor 97 they might have lost most. We're out there because it's a security issue for the planet, not for an eye for an eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 8 August, 2010 So what, if there had been a Swedish company on floor 97 they might have lost most. We're out there because it's a security issue for the planet, not for an eye for an eye. hmmmm we went out there because the taliban harboured al qeada and allowed terrorist training camps in the country that resulted in thousands of US lives and hundreds of UK libes been taken....NATO agreed to back it... that is all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 8 August, 2010 Share Posted 8 August, 2010 So what, if there had been a Swedish company on floor 97 they might have lost most. We're out there because it's a security issue for the planet, not for an eye for an eye. The taliban are a security issue for the planet? I doubt it. Al Qaeda is/was - although mostly they are a security issue for other Muslims, who make up most of their victims, even taking into account 9/11, the Luxxor massacre (pre-al Qaeda), Bali (freelancers who trained in Malaysia), Madrid & London (also freelancers, trained in Pakistan and Algeria respectively). But the taliban, as awful as they are, don't pose a threat to the West. As knuckle headed as they are, the taliban leadership know well enough that they were swept from power because of their association, as reluctant hosts, with al Qaeda. In any case, Afghanistan is presently a sideshow, at least as far as international security is concerned. The real battle with those who internationalize militancy is going on in Pakistani territory - in the the tribal areas, Baluchistan and Swat. Most of that is being done with a combination of special forces, drones, local militias and the Pakistani army. All of which suggests that the wisest investment in fighting the clear and present danger has to be in intelligence, influence-peddling with local powers, equipping and training special forces and the sort of high technology that's operated by joysticks in Maryland. The days when you could respond effectively to some terrorist outrage by loosing off a bunch of cruise missiles from a submarine or warship are long past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 August, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10960440 rules out any of the forces merging...(meaning the RAF are safe) cuts to be made in all three services...probably one aircraft carrier going for the navy....withdrawl from germany and troop reduction for the army..and loads of cuts for the RAF. less top brass in the services (about time) less civil servents working for the MoD also, a nuclear deterrent will remain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 13 August, 2010 Share Posted 13 August, 2010 arizona..they have already developed/sought out and electromagnetic catapult system...for just this scenario Dont know where you get this from the Technology Readiness Levels for EM Catapults is at least 10 yeasr behind the ISD for the QEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 August, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 August, 2010 Dont know where you get this from the Technology Readiness Levels for EM Catapults is at least 10 yeasr behind the ISD for the QEC. maybe already developed was a tad hasty..but read it here... http://www.janes.com/news/defence/jni/jni100726_1_n.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 13 August, 2010 Share Posted 13 August, 2010 maybe already developed was a tad hasty..but read it here... http://www.janes.com/news/defence/jni/jni100726_1_n.shtml Yes I was aware of this, and certainly as a concept it has been proved turning it into a practical system is different matter and will require some serious investment and time. With the theme of this thread being defence cuts getting the funding approved may prove difficult. You are right in as much that the QEC design has been developed with EMCAT as a possible upgrade at some time in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 2 August, 2012 for info http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19043841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 December, 2013 Share Posted 31 December, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gaddafi-dead-the-incredible-story-of-the-british-87467 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony F Posted 31 December, 2013 Share Posted 31 December, 2013 Interesting read Jamie - were you involved or is that not your boat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 31 December, 2013 Share Posted 31 December, 2013 Interesting read Jamie - were you involved or is that not your boat? no, not mine. I know a few of the faces though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 3 January, 2014 Share Posted 3 January, 2014 A long but interesting article about the Brazilian navy http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2013/12/look-brazilian-navy/ I am sure that John I Thorneycrofts in Woolston built some ships for them in the middle of the last century ? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 3 January, 2014 Share Posted 3 January, 2014 Vosper Thornycroft built 4 MK10 'Niterori' Class frigates at Woolston for the Brazilian Navy between 1976 -78. Based on VT's Type 21 class but larger and more heavily armed these ships are still in service. This navy also operates 3 former RN Type 22 Batch I frigates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 (edited) little vid of HMS Defender on Op Kipion Edited 15 January, 2015 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 little vid of HMS Defender on Op Kipion That had me wanting to join up again! The didn't have rapid roping from a Lynx onto a moving ship in enemy waters though. Loved doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 January, 2015 Share Posted 15 January, 2015 That had me wanting to join up again! The didn't have rapid roping from a Lynx onto a moving ship in enemy waters though. Loved doing that. I have done the fast roping training at HMS Cambridge (now closed down). Not done it for real though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 April, 2016 Share Posted 2 April, 2016 http://www.warshipsifr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=186:the-familiar-old-problem-of-building-warships-fit-for-fighting-purpose&catid=36:commentary&Itemid=65 http://www.savetheroyalnavy.org/why-the-royal-navy-has-just-been-cut-by-another-2-ships/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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