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I would have thought that Cortese is more than happy with just 40% of the total capacity sold at a discount but with all the money up front, leaving the remaining 60% to be sold at premium prices. If we have a successful season some matches will sell out, others will have good gates, however the income will be up overall.

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Sales of 13,000+ at this stage is an amazing achievement.

 

With three weeks to go, I'd imagine a lot more canb be sold too.

 

I was one of the people who was concerned about the tickets going on sale late, with limited publicicty and marketing etc.

 

It seems my worries were unfounded. Ok, maybe a decent marketing drive could have yielded even more sales, but this seems to be yet more evidence that the new regime know what they're doing and some on here (myself definitely included in this instance) basically don't.

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Sales of 13,000+ at this stage is an amazing achievement.

 

With three weeks to go, I'd imagine a lot more canb be sold too.

 

I was one of the people who was concerned about the tickets going on sale late, with limited publicicty and marketing etc.

 

It seems my worries were unfounded. Ok, maybe a decent marketing drive could have yielded even more sales, but this seems to be yet more evidence that the new regime know what they're doing and some on here (myself definitely included in this instance) basically don't.

 

Fair play Saint Bobby.

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Sales of 13,000+ at this stage is an amazing achievement.

 

With three weeks to go, I'd imagine a lot more canb be sold too.

 

I was one of the people who was concerned about the tickets going on sale late, with limited publicicty and marketing etc.

 

It seems my worries were unfounded. Ok, maybe a decent marketing drive could have yielded even more sales, but this seems to be yet more evidence that the new regime know what they're doing and some on here (myself definitely included in this instance) basically don't.

 

Yep it's hard to argue the case against, actions speak louder than words an' all that...but I've lost count of the number of people I've heard say they're waiting to get half-year season tickets in December. That message aint quite got through to some.

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I went to get mine on Saturday which was Good and I am also looking forward to being in the Northam as well as it is always Good Fun being in the Northam as well (No Offence Other Stands!)!

Also 13,00 is Pretty Good as well Tbh and fingers crossed more will come :)!

COYR!!

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I went to get mine on Saturday which was Good and I am also looking forward to being in the Northam as well as it is always Good Fun being in the Northam as well (No Offence Other Stands!)!

Also 13,00 is Pretty Good as well Tbh and fingers crossed more will come :)!

COYR!!

 

It'll be good to have you in the Northam Bennysfc ;)

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13000+ season ticket sales has me proved wrong, I thought 10000 tops. On the other hand the walk up will be less because of the £2 surcharge also £3 surcharge on tel/online sales will have an affect, so I don't think the overall attendance will be any different to early games last season. Hopefully with a great start they will gradually improve.

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I hold my hands up, I was one of those slamming the way in which Season Ticket Details were announced. Now that I understand the reasons behind it though, I am glad the club took that stance.

 

Last year, there were a significant percentage who took the season ticket on the Installment Plan, to then just cancel the direct debit - that is a f***ing disgrace and is why the people who really needed that plan, are no longer able to do so.

 

I was more ****ed due to the fact that out of the 4 of us who had ST's together in the Northam last year, only two of us have been able to renew due to the upfront payment. But now I couldn't give a monkeys if I was honest, just looking forward to being there each step of the way.

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13000+ season ticket sales has me proved wrong, I thought 10000 tops. On the other hand the walk up will be less because of the £2 surcharge also £3 surcharge on tel/online sales will have an affect, so I don't think the overall attendance will be any different to early games last season. Hopefully with a great start they will gradually improve.

 

Yer, I think that if we do well, people will come in their droves and we will be selling out by Christmas. Time has shown that fans generally don't seem to care about prices as long as they are within a band if the team are doing well.

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I hold my hands up, I was one of those slamming the way in which Season Ticket Details were announced. Now that I understand the reasons behind it though, I am glad the club took that stance.

 

Last year, there were a significant percentage who took the season ticket on the Installment Plan, to then just cancel the direct debit - that is a f***ing disgrace and is why the people who really needed that plan, are no longer able to do so.

 

I was more ****ed due to the fact that out of the 4 of us who had ST's together in the Northam last year, only two of us have been able to renew due to the upfront payment. But now I couldn't give a monkeys if I was honest, just looking forward to being there each step of the way.

 

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I hold my hands up, I was one of those slamming the way in which Season Ticket Details were announced. Now that I understand the reasons behind it though, I am glad the club took that stance.

 

Last year, there were a significant percentage who took the season ticket on the Installment Plan, to then just cancel the direct debit - that is a f***ing disgrace and is why the people who really needed that plan, are no longer able to do so.

 

I was more ****ed due to the fact that out of the 4 of us who had ST's together in the Northam last year, only two of us have been able to renew due to the upfront payment. But now I couldn't give a monkeys if I was honest, just looking forward to being there each step of the way.

 

Wow, what a great friend you are. Our group all stuck together, the ones with spare cash/access to a credit card bought for those that couldn't ( apart from me and one other who didn't want to borrow off anyone ) ...

 

Also... where do you hear about defaulters last season and that being the reason? That has not been stated by anyone at the club as a reason, one person speculated that might have been the reason and you have all jumped on it as gospel.

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Yer, I think that if we do well, people will come in their droves and we will be selling out by Christmas. Time has shown that fans generally don't seem to care about prices as long as they are within a band if the team are doing well.

 

We didn't sell out 50% of games in the Premier League, yet you expect to in League 1?

 

Very strange. :lol:

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Crowds will go up, no doubt.

 

But to suggest we will sell out every game from Xmas is.... :lol:

 

I reckon we could be up to 27/28k, but agree that selling out regularly won't happen. Probably sell out for 6/7 games over the course of the season, not counting cup games.

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I reckon we could be up to 27/28k, but agree that selling out regularly won't happen. Probably sell out for 6/7 games over the course of the season, not counting cup games.

 

2 or 3 games imo.

 

Having said that, we sold more season tickets than I thought we would, so might be more... but it's not a case of how many season tickets we sold that would back up my point, it's how many people were forced out of buying a season ticket. The club are not going to make it known what the retention figures are so we will never know how many of the 13k are new STH's

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To be honest considering the state the club was in at this stage last season and where we are now and hopefully heading, 'easily out selling' last years STs by a few hundred isn't a great deal in my mind.

 

A great amount of Feel Good Factor evaporated at the way the whole ST thing has been handled.

 

As several people have mentioned, if even just 1 fan who stumped up for a ST last season at a time when we were at an all time low in terms of league position and no realistic chance of promotion, has been unable to renew this season because of the withdrawal of installments or half season options then that is bad news.

 

Spare a thought for families with kids outside the magic 8 yr old mark suddenly being faced with a huge unexpected additional outlay at an already expensive time of year.

 

How many people have been coerced into reluctantly paying up front for an ST to avoid the booking fee scenario week in week out?

 

Commercially good news for the club either way, extra income up front or extra easy money for the rest of the season in booking fees. But maybe not what the seemingly ripped up and conveniently forgotten Fans Charter set out to acheive.

 

At the end of the day i feel that anything below 15000 STs ie only picking up an extra 1500 or so extra sold shows that the club have got it wrong, and should not be used as an excuse for some willy waving celebration of out doing last year.

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Wow, what a great friend you are. Our group all stuck together, the ones with spare cash/access to a credit card bought for those that couldn't ( apart from me and one other who didn't want to borrow off anyone ) ...

 

Also... where do you hear about defaulters last season and that being the reason? That has not been stated by anyone at the club as a reason, one person speculated that might have been the reason and you have all jumped on it as gospel.

 

The resident tw*t...

 

I got a credit card and put my own Season Ticket, and the only one of my mates that I trust with money. So thankyou for your concern as to the strength of our friendship.

 

As for your second point - I have heard it from a variety of people... So please do forgive me for coming to the conclusion that this may well have been the reason, seeing as it is such a plausible one.

 

I would love to meet you... Haven't been able to return to Muay Thai due to a bad back and really need to release all this tension.

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The resident tw*t...

 

I got a credit card and put my own Season Ticket, and the only one of my mates that I trust with money. So thankyou for your concern as to the strength of our friendship.

 

As for your second point - I have heard it from a variety of people... So please do forgive me for coming to the conclusion that this may well have been the reason, seeing as it is such a plausible one.

 

I would love to meet you... Haven't been able to return to Muay Thai due to a bad back and really need to release all this tension.

 

Hang on, if that was the reason then surely that's the reason they would have given, rather than the administration costs which is the reason Luker and the then Head of Sales Leighton Mitchell gave to me? Don't you think? Also, the club done their own scheme last season due to lack of time but with Premium/Zebra they take care of defaulters.

 

Oh, and seriously wetting myself at you dropping in you do martial arts. LMFAO - What do you want? A Blue Peter Badge?

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All this if even just 1 fan has been unable to renew a ST this season because of the withdrawal of installments or half season options then the policy failed line is b*ll*cks. Putting aside all the other issues and looking purely at the finances, who know's what that 1 fan will do. He may end up paying on the day instead -not totally inconceivable- and if he goes to quite a few games, especially if we're doing well, the revenue generated on a match-by-match basis might actually exceed the revenue that would have been brought in by the installment plan. In other words, we won't know till the end of the season, so declaring the commercial failure of the policy now is misleading.

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All this if even just 1 fan has been unable to renew a ST this season because of the withdrawal of installments or half season options then the policy failed line is b*ll*cks. Putting aside all the other issues and looking purely at the finances, who know's what that 1 fan will do. He may end up paying on the day instead -not totally inconceivable- and if he goes to quite a few games, especially if we're doing well, the revenue generated on a match-by-match basis might actually exceed the revenue that would have been brought in by the installment plan. In other words, we won't know till the end of the season, so declaring the commercial failure of the policy now is misleading.

 

I think the point people are making is that they are looking out for other Saints fans rather than the pockets of the club. I don't want SFC making money on the back of ripping other Saints fans off. We have been together at the club long before Cortese came in and will still be here long after he has gone.

 

I don't think some of the more reasoned posters give a toss about the commercial decision and whether its been a success. They are just dissapointed that one of their family/army/whatever you want to call it, have been shafted by the club.

 

There is so many examples of an " I'm alright Jack " attitude amoungst people on here... I think that's what some people are speaking out against.

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I think the point people are making is that they are looking out for other Saints fans rather than the pockets of the club. I don't want SFC making money on the back of ripping other Saints fans off. We have been together at the club long before Cortese came in and will still be here long after he has gone.

 

I don't think some of the more reasoned posters give a toss about the commercial decision and whether its been a success. They are just dissapointed that one of their family/army/whatever you want to call it, have been shafted by the club.

 

There is so many examples of an " I'm alright Jack " attitude amoungst people on here... I think that's what some people are speaking out against.

 

Shock new nominee for title of "The Voice of Reason" ;)

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2 or 3 games imo.

 

Having said that, we sold more season tickets than I thought we would, so might be more... but it's not a case of how many season tickets we sold that would back up my point, it's how many people were forced out of buying a season ticket. The club are not going to make it known what the retention figures are so we will never know how many of the 13k are new STH's

 

At least there is finally an admission that the figures were better than you expected, which is something, I suppose.

 

As to your other point regarding the number of people who were "forced" out of buying a ST, you obviously won't take on board any arguments that go against your own private agenda, whatever that might be. If you care to look a few posts above, I pointed out that it was impossible to know the number of those who had not renewed since the installment plan was discontinued, because many might not have been able to afford the tickets even with the installment plan, because of a worsening of their financial position due to the recession. So what precisely would be the relevance of the club isssuing retention figures which are meaningless, apart from providing those such as you the chance to twist them as ammunition to pursue your petty little vendettas?

 

In the same way that you have rather inanely argued that the discontinuation of the installment plan would adversely affect sales of STs, you ought to therefore accept the equally inane counter argument that by withdrawing the installment plan, the increased ST take up indicates that people have actually been "forced" into buying more STs. :rolleyes:

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I think the point people are making is that they are looking out for other Saints fans rather than the pockets of the club. I don't want SFC making money on the back of ripping other Saints fans off. We have been together at the club long before Cortese came in and will still be here long after he has gone.

 

I don't think some of the more reasoned posters give a toss about the commercial decision and whether its been a success. They are just dissapointed that one of their family/army/whatever you want to call it, have been shafted by the club.

 

There is so many examples of an " I'm alright Jack " attitude amoungst people on here... I think that's what some people are speaking out against.

I am very confused with your stance on this (very much as you are I suspect). I am a an ST holder of many years. I found out the ST details, had no major issues with the price, renewed on line in about 1 minute and was happy, so because of this you have accused me of being an "I`m Alright,Jack" sort. I have said all along that there has been a major problem at the club over the summer and that is lack of communication. I believe that the club has made some unpopular business decisions and not explained their reasoning, but to set yourself up as some sort of Robin Hood against NC`s Sheriff of Nottingham is really stretching it. You standing up alone for the rights of the poor down-trodden Saints fans who are being "shafted" by SFC`s answer to Alan Rickman, whilst the rest of us "I`m Alright, Jack" fatcats layaround licking our own testicles smacks of fantasy to me.:hunt:

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I think the point people are making is that they are looking out for other Saints fans rather than the pockets of the club. I don't want SFC making money on the back of ripping other Saints fans off. We have been together at the club long before Cortese came in and will still be here long after he has gone.

 

I don't think some of the more reasoned posters give a toss about the commercial decision and whether its been a success. They are just dissapointed that one of their family/army/whatever you want to call it, have been shafted by the club.

 

There is so many examples of an " I'm alright Jack " attitude amoungst people on here... I think that's what some people are speaking out against.

 

With interest rates at record lows and other options available, its still not clear whether the installment plan was/is the cheapest option for the fan. But we haven't managed to settle this debate, so best move on.

 

Surely if the club was looking to line its own pockets, it would have eliminated the cheap ST renewals or at least significantly reduced the gap between them and ordinary STs (along with some of the kiddy discounts).

 

Do I benefit yes? But even if i didn't, would i be upset if they scrapped these schemes to boost the bottom the line. Damn right. I can't think of many fairer ways to devise a sales policy than to reward loyalty, especially given our bleak recent history. Its one of the few constants in football and is largely blind to whether you are rich or poor (when I've been skint in the past, knowing that come what may I would be spending any future saturday at games made saving relatively easy).

 

The lack of communication and notice (especially the latter) was f*cking diabolical but insofar as ST prices continue to recognise loyalty, I wont feel totally mugged off. And thats not because I and presumably others are "I'm alright jack" types.

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Wow, what a great friend you are. Our group all stuck together, the ones with spare cash/access to a credit card bought for those that couldn't ( apart from me and one other who didn't want to borrow off anyone ) ...

 

Also... where do you hear about defaulters last season and that being the reason? That has not been stated by anyone at the club as a reason, one person speculated that might have been the reason and you have all jumped on it as gospel.

 

Look I know you are basically on a wind up whilst the summer silly season moves on, but, can you please take one stance or another. At the beginning of this, you stated you wouldn;t be able to get a ST, then, you announced you had bought a ST. Then, earlier in this thread, you weren't buying a ST out of principle, even though, based on this post, you had already bought one. Are you confusing yourself with StuRomseySaint? Has SRS also got a ST? Maybe you got a free under 8's one for your ego?

 

Anyway, for all the rest of you that love this silly season escapade, here's some highlights from DBP/SRS:

 

I don't think I have once said that I think the tickets are too expensive

 

The issue is the way the club is deliberately trying to make the purchasing of season tickets as restrictive and awkward as possible to ensure minimal takeup

 

I have no problem paying for success.

 

I for one won't bother getting a ticket until the day, it's cheaper than me booking it online and I know I will be able to get a seat in the Itchen North. And I have the main advantage of being able to look out the window when I wake up and if it's p!ssing down, go back to bed, as well as other reasons not to go like hangover/money/better things to do.

 

You price as expensive as you can to maximise your crowd, then push the add-ons ( programmes, burgers, beers, megastore etc ) when the customer is in your shop ( stadium )

 

I don't think our prices are unreasonable

 

As someone who was going to get a season ticket on the installment plan and part of a group of 10 lads who were wanting to arrange to go on the pre-season tour, as a direct result of the 'closed doors' policy of SFC now, I have been unable to do either.

 

Don't get me wrong, when the good news starts flowing, the negative people (maybe even me) will be silenced.

 

My manifesto for success ( that's what I am going to call it, catchy eh? )

 

Women banned from football ( apart from staffing the concourses and serving the lads Balti Pies and Beer )

Children banned from football.

Students banned from football.

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I think the point people are making is that they are looking out for other Saints fans rather than the pockets of the club. I don't want SFC making money on the back of ripping other Saints fans off. We have been together at the club long before Cortese came in and will still be here long after he has gone.

 

I don't think some of the more reasoned posters give a toss about the commercial decision and whether its been a success. They are just dissapointed that one of their family/army/whatever you want to call it, have been shafted by the club.

 

There is so many examples of an " I'm alright Jack " attitude amoungst people on here... I think that's what some people are speaking out against.

good post and i agree ,i have a season ticket but i realise some of our fellow supporters have been dumped on with the instalment plan been taking away without any notice and to me thats a disgrace.

its funny how other clubs can still have payment plans.

bad customer service in my opion also means loss of sales for saint merchandise and some of these fans have been loyal during the dark days at the club.

so they sold 13,000 thats good but annoys me that some dicckheads seem happy that some of fans have been dumped on big time.

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good post and i agree ,i have a season ticket but i realise some of our fellow supporters have been dumped on with the instalment plan been taking away without any notice and to me thats a disgrace.

its funny how other clubs can still have payment plans.

bad customer service in my opion also means loss of sales for saint merchandise and some of these fans have been loyal during the dark days at the club.

so they sold 13,000 thats good but annoys me that some dicckheads seem happy that some of fans have been dumped on big time.

 

Thats life. Life aint fair. A lot of people have suggested ways that people can buy season tickets. If these options aren't available then maybe they'll just have to pay on a match by match basis. I can't get to watch them every week as I live in London and cannot afford the train down every 2 weeks. That's a choice I have to make based on the income I have available to me, and it's a choice I'm not happy with, but so be it.

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good post and i agree ,i have a season ticket but i realise some of our fellow supporters have been dumped on with the instalment plan been taking away without any notice and to me thats a disgrace.

its funny how other clubs can still have payment plans.

bad customer service in my opion also means loss of sales for saint merchandise and some of these fans have been loyal during the dark days at the club.

so they sold 13,000 thats good but annoys me that some dicckheads seem happy that some of fans have been dumped on big time.

 

Please explain which "dickheads seem happy". Do you you think, like Dave Romsey does, that those that have been able to get their ST`s O.K. are all sat around splitting their sides at other fans that maybe struggling to find money?? What do you suggest we do?:hunt: Suicide bomb SMS???

Please while you are at it, please explain how these fans "have been dumped on big time".

Prices of just about everything have gone up. I accept, as I always have done, that the removal of the installment plan will effect some, and I agree that the lack of communication has been appalling, but don`t let that stop you making ridiculous sweeping statements.

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I still can't empathise with this idea that the business (club) owe its customers (fans) an installment plan. Some people clearly have the notions of rights and privileges rather confused.

 

well most business i know do have some sort of plan or credit option or are you the type who pays for a new car with cash.

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2 or 3 games imo.

 

Having said that, we sold more season tickets than I thought we would, so might be more... but it's not a case of how many season tickets we sold that would back up my point, it's how many people were forced out of buying a season ticket. The club are not going to make it known what the retention figures are so we will never know how many of the 13k are new STH's

 

Why should the club give a monkey's who the holder of the ST is? They are interested in numbers.

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well most business i know do have some sort of plan or credit option or are you the type who pays for a new car with cash.

 

They offer that if it is needed to sell their product. It is a commercial decision, not a charity. Surely you can see that?

 

The fact that sales have gone up since the withdrawal of the plan quite clearly seems to indicate that we do not need to offer one. I bet gate receipts are up this season.

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Please explain which "dickheads seem happy". Do you you think, like Dave Romsey does, that those that have been able to get their ST`s O.K. are all sat around splitting their sides at other fans that maybe struggling to find money?? What do you suggest we do?:hunt: Suicide bomb SMS???

Please while you are at it, please explain how these fans "have been dumped on big time".

Prices of just about everything have gone up. I accept, as I always have done, that the removal of the installment plan will effect some, and I agree that the lack of communication has been appalling, but don`t let that stop you making ridiculous sweeping statements.

was not having a go at you but i know personally one guy who pays for himself,wife,and 2 teenage kids who is not on high wages threw the plan and could have saved money for their season tickets if he had been given notice of the clubs intentions months ago.

he has decided its not feasible for him and his family to go to individual matches because of the massive increasein tickets prices compared to having a earlybird season ticket.

so we lose 4 season tickets holders.

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was not having a go at you but i know personally one guy who pays for himself,wife,and 2 teenage kids who is not on high wages threw the plan and could have saved money for their season tickets if he had been given notice of the clubs intentions months ago.

he has decided its not feasible for him and his family to go to individual matches because of the massive increasein tickets prices compared to having a earlybird season ticket.

so we lose 4 season tickets holders.

 

But that's clearly rubbish. It's feasible, you just go to less.

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They offer that if it is needed to sell their product. It is a commercial decision, not a charity. Surely you can see that?

 

The fact that sales have gone up since the withdrawal of the plan quite clearly seems to indicate that we do not need to offer one. I bet gate receipts are up this season.

 

oh dear Victorian mentality returns ,scrooge would love you jack.

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oh dear Victorian mentality returns ,scrooge would love you jack.

 

What on earth are you talking about?

 

Do you think businesses offer credit plans because they feel sorry for poor people and want to help them out? Do you think they don't conduct financial analysis to see if offering the plans makes them more money in the long-run? Do you think all businesses should sell their product at a price that makes it affordable for the poorest person who wants to buy it? Do you think it's a good idea to sell as much of your product as possible at a discount or at it's full price? Do you think Saints ever have a chance of being competitive in the top division unless they try to maximise their revenue?

 

Seriously, what are you thinking?

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was not having a go at you but i know personally one guy who pays for himself,wife,and 2 teenage kids who is not on high wages threw the plan and could have saved money for their season tickets if he had been given notice of the clubs intentions months ago.

he has decided its not feasible for him and his family to go to individual matches because of the massive increasein tickets prices compared to having a earlybird season ticket.

so we lose 4 season tickets holders.

I do understand this and I do sincerely sympathize, or empathize, as Romsey Dave would say, but it was the "dickheads seem happy" remark that was ridiculous.

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was not having a go at you but i know personally one guy who pays for himself,wife,and 2 teenage kids who is not on high wages threw the plan and could have saved money for their season tickets if he had been given notice of the clubs intentions months ago.

he has decided its not feasible for him and his family to go to individual matches because of the massive increasein tickets prices compared to having a earlybird season ticket.

so we lose 4 season tickets holders.

 

I take it this guy can't get a credit card? Or his wife? Or get a low interest loan (you know, some of these places will give a loan to anyone and at about 10% AER). Not bad when you would pay for it over 12 months instead of 9 for the installement plan, he'd be paying less per month than he would have been.

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not to them its not and they fill dumped on,me i want all saints fans to be catered for.

 

So you want the price set at a level that every Saints fan, no matter their disposable income, can afford a season ticket? Do you want us to become insolvent again?

 

I'm sorry but that's simply not the real world.

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not to them its not and they fill dumped on,me i want all saints fans to be catered for.

 

Right, first off if you want to be taken seriously, learn how to spell.

 

Secondly, all Saints fans CANNOT be catered for unless season tickets are given away for £1 or something along those lines. Perhaps SFC should pay for my travel to and from London so that I can go. That seem fair?

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