miserableoldgit Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 You can continue the Stu bashing all you like but at the end of the day he is right that the club will not get as many season ticket holders as they would have if they had offered an installment plan. It doesnt bother me personally as i am a rich bugger but i do know of a couple of people who have not renewed because of this. Will all those who didnt still hand over the equivalent cash throughout a season, nobody will know. I don`t anyone is bashing Stu for the message that he is putting out - it`s more to do with the repetitive (22+ posts per day), obsessive, "I am right -you are wrong - NC is the Anti-Christ" postings. Saying something 22 times a day doesn`t always make it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I think the key point here is how many season ticket holders have not renewed because of a lack of an installment plan?For me if there is just 1 case then that is a shame and SRS/DBP has won this argument. We were always going to get more sales this year due to our investment, potential to achieve, and the return of the feel good factor, after all we did win a trophy last season! I really fail to understand the hostility shown. Having more options for fans to pay for their season ticket is a no brainer and the club are missing a trick here. I think it is for certain they would have had more sales if they gave people the option to pay for their season ticket over the season. Spot on post. Good to see we've sold a decent number of season tickets, but it could have been more. Strange bit of PR spin from the club re "significantly more" than last year, which I'm really not sure is the case. And how sad it is to see grown men wetting themselves through excitement at the possibility of proving Stu/Dave wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Quote >Oh, and for the record, I am actually quite pleased that the numbers are so high, because it's a big two fingers up at Cortese who showed himself to not want STH's , so no dissapointment here. Your actually green with envy ,please do try to get some help... My problem was never the amount of season ticket holders we were going to get, my problem was the club deliberately forcing people out of getting one. It doesn't matter whether we have 10,000 or 20,000 season ticket holders, people have still been prevented from buying a season ticket due to the clubs disregard for their supporters charter. I estimated that numbers would be down, it seems I was wrong and infact they are going to be a bit higher... it doensn't mean Cortese should be patting himself on the back and a job well done. I am absolutely certain ( and even more so now ) that we should have sold 20k season tickets this year with the right sales and marketing. I would also suspect that the retention figures are significantly lower than what they normally are... that is the only figure which backs up what I suspect which means there is a large number of Saints fans who have been forced out. But the clubs unwillingness to promote season tickets / make them easy to buy etc does seem to have not worked to the extent that they would have liked, or I would have imagined it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I've just read the OS article. Do the 13,000 'sales' not also include the free tickets to under 8's? Personally I think it's a major spin to suggest that free tickets to under 8's could be included within 'sales' figures. Therefore I have to agree with SRS / DBP at this point in time that they have not truly sold (within the common sense of the word) more than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 The OS quote is "Season ticket sales are now well past the 13,000 mark, far in excess of the total number from last year*which also included half season ticket sales" so unless the club are lying 13500 is a figure that appeared from outside the club. DBP you truly are a ridiculous example of human being. Just accept that you were wrong and move on. Seems fair to assume that we may reach at least 15,000 ST holders by the start of the season. However you choose to spin it to attempt to stop looking so stupid, the pricing structure, payment methods, and purchasing window HAS NOT culled the the enthusiasm of Saints fans. IF any fan now can't afford their ticket from last season (chez) I think it's unfortunate but in no way should the club be blamed. If what equates to roughly £2-3 per week is the difference then that persons finances suggest that they maybe shouldn't go anyway. The true success os the pricing structure will be seen throughout the season when attendances Im sure will "easily exceed last years average"!!! If I had to guess I would go for 24k+!!!!! Can't wait for next seasons "advertising and marketing campaign"!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy done well Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 But weren't under 8's also free and included in the sales figures last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Oh, and for the record, I am actually quite pleased that the numbers are so high, because it's a big two fingers up at Cortese who showed himself to not want STH's , so no dissapointment here. Yeah a massive two fingers up at him, he must feel like a complete tool now that we've sold more than last year with 3 weeks to go, obviously he's not interested in the increased revenue it's all about personal pride to him. And if he wanted rid of season tickets he can just not sell them, he's in charge. Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Does anyone know how many free under 8s tickets are included in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 But weren't under 8's also free and included in the sales figures last season Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15saints Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 My problem was never the amount of season ticket holders we were going to get, my problem was the club deliberately forcing people out of getting one. It doesn't matter whether we have 10,000 or 20,000 season ticket holders, people have still been prevented from buying a season ticket due to the clubs disregard for their supporters charter. I estimated that numbers would be down, it seems I was wrong and infact they are going to be a bit higher... it doensn't mean Cortese should be patting himself on the back and a job well done. I am absolutely certain ( and even more so now ) that we should have sold 20k season tickets this year with the right sales and marketing. I would also suspect that the retention figures are significantly lower than what they normally are... that is the only figure which backs up what I suspect which means there is a large number of Saints fans who have been forced out. But the clubs unwillingness to promote season tickets / make them easy to buy etc does seem to have not worked to the extent that they would have liked, or I would have imagined it seems. Don't let the facts get in the way of your arguement. We can all sit and make numbers up, but the facts are we have sold more STs than last year. Now you can admit you are wrong in one sentence, contradict yourself in the second sentence then come out with some figure that can never be proven in the third and then say I am right? I just wish you would go and take you jaundiced views of my club down the road to the blue manic depressives where you will not be a loan voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 A question to everyone on here. How many season tickets sold by the start of the season would you see as a success? Simply beating last year's figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Yes. How did you find this out? Can you provide a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 A question to everyone on here. How many season tickets sold by the start of the season would you see as a success? Simply beating last year's figure? To be honest I had expected less than last season to be sold, more like around the 11,500 mark due to slight increases in cost and the removal of the instalment plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 To be honest I had expected less than last season to be sold, more like around the 11,500 mark due to slight increases in cost and the removal of the instalment plan. I think the point he is trying to make idiot, is what number would you consider to be a success as in the club maximising season tickets. How many do you think would have been sold if the club pro-actively sold and marketed them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 How many do you think would have been sold if the club pro-actively sold and marketed them? With installment plan? A few hundred more. With 'Pro-active marketing'? No more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 A question to everyone on here. How many season tickets sold by the start of the season would you see as a success? Simply beating last year's figure? Given that (I think) last year's total was 11.5K, I would say anything over 15K is a relative success. But I also agree that if an installment plan and proper marketing drive had been in place we could have sold a few hundred / thousand more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 With installment plan? A few hundred more. With 'Pro-active marketing'? No more. So in your opinion, the club would have not got a single more sale if they had done any of the following... a) Send renewals out. b) Contact people on the database with purchase history from last season. c) Put them on sale earlier. d) Conducted advertising and marketing campaigns. There's just 4 examples, there are many many more ways they could have maximised sales. Are you saying that the club would have not made a single extra sale had they done any of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 So in your opinion, the club would have not got a single more sale if they had done any of the following... a) Send renewals out. - Doubtful b) Contact people on the database with purchase history from last season. - No c) Put them on sale earlier. - Possibly but very few d) Conducted advertising and marketing campaigns. - No There's just 4 examples, there are many many more ways they could have maximised sales. Are you saying that the club would have not made a single extra sale had they done any of them? Very few at best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailOB Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 So in your opinion, the club would have not got a single more sale if they had done any of the following... a) Send renewals out. b) Contact people on the database with purchase history from last season. c) Put them on sale earlier. d) Conducted advertising and marketing campaigns. There's just 4 examples, there are many many more ways they could have maximised sales. Are you saying that the club would have not made a single extra sale had they done any of them? Why do you care ? Are you really bothered ? How much would all of the above cost and would it have been cost effective ? (especially considering the number of ST we have sold) Why do people who know when the football season starts and support a football team need to be reminded about buying a ticket ? Seriously the 'seeker of truth and justice' stance from you is becoming tiresome and you are running the risk of any 'serious' debate you bring to the forum being totally undermined by your anti-Cortese stance with regards to EVERY subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Very few at best I think I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 IF any fan now can't afford their ticket from last season (chez) I think it's unfortunate but in no way should the club be blamed. If what equates to roughly £2-3 per week is the difference then that persons finances suggest that they maybe shouldn't go anyway. I don't understand your point at all or your maths. 52 x 2 = £104, x 3 = £156. I don't have a clue what those two figures relate to but it certainly isn't a season ticket price, or two, or a family's worth of season tickets. I think you need to explain. For the record some fans have gone from a situation where they could spread the cost of the payments over the course of a year to having to stump up the whole amount in one go. Having a lump sum available is very different from being able to opay for an item over the course of a season. There was also no time to prepare for this change. Finding say £700 for two tickets in just a few weeks is not easy for many many fans. The club CAN be blamed for that. I don't know your financial situation but if you had to pay for a brand new car all in one go or maybe a house all on one go would you struggle? I personally have no issue with the prices or the lack of a payment plan, but removing it at such short notice went against the clubs charter and was a poor decision in my eyes. The only reason I can see for NC doing this was that he was so ****ed off when he found out that some people may have abused the system that he pulled it instantly. I know I'd of been annoyed. But unless the number of people abusing the system were very high (and there was no indication of this from the club) then the removal of the plan hurt those that didn't abuse it. There was an alternative - send half a season ticket out once the first half had been paid and the other half once the second half had been paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Why do you care ? Are you really bothered ? Just making a point to Nexstar, I am happy to sit back and wait for my time to pop back up and say " I told you so " , I came back on these threads because the same usual numptys are more worried about having a pop at me from their PC than actually looking at the facts. How much would all of the above cost and would it have been cost effective ? (especially considering the number of ST we have sold) Sending renewals out = Price of maybe 2 season tickets. So if 2 people renew as a result of this = profit. Contact people on the database - Again, at the most = 2 sales... so 2 people buy as a result of this = Profit. Put them on sale earlier = No cost. Advertising campaigns = Minimal cost again, especially if they had kept the relationship with the Daily Echo Why do people who know when the football season starts and support a football team need to be reminded about buying a ticket ? They don't need to be reminded in that sense... they need to be motivated and encouraged to buy one. Seriously the 'seeker of truth and justice' stance from you is becoming tiresome and you are running the risk of any 'serious' debate you bring to the forum being totally undermined by your anti-Cortese stance with regards to EVERY subject. On this thread all I am simply doing is defending my views... direct your thoughts towards Dulldays and Nick G if you want examples of trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100%Red&White Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I'm going to predict, due to fans request, half-STs are reintroduced just before Christmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Why do you care ? Are you really bothered ? How much would all of the above cost and would it have been cost effective ? (especially considering the number of ST we have sold) Why do people who know when the football season starts and support a football team need to be reminded about buying a ticket ? Seriously the 'seeker of truth and justice' stance from you is becoming tiresome and you are running the risk of any 'serious' debate you bring to the forum being totally undermined by your anti-Cortese stance with regards to EVERY subject. This is the bit I can`t get my head around. As an exsisting ST holder I just waited until the details for renewal came out on the website or I rang the club. Renewal was easy. If I was a Saints fan who thought about getting an ST, I would find out by the same methods what I needed to do to get one. Its not as they say (cliche alert!) Rocket Science is it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crispypie Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I'm not sure I get this obsession with season tickets. I have mine, I was lucky enough to be in a position to choose to have one. It was a close run thing but if the price was over the mark I would have not bought one and took the seperate ticket option. If they sell too many season tickets, then those who could not afford one would struggle to buy individual tickets. Succes or failure for selling season tickets? Surely it doesnt matter that much. What matters to me is success or failure on the pitch. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 This is the bit I can`t get my head around. As an exsisting ST holder I just waited until the details for renewal came out on the website or I rang the club. Renewal was easy. If I was a Saints fan who thought about getting an ST, I would find out by the same methods what I needed to do to get one. Its not as they say (cliche alert!) Rocket Science is it?? Not for you, but then again you are completely tunnel-visioned into your own view. Not everyone is as devoted to the club as you, not everyone sits on the internet for hours on day checking on all things SFC like me and you, not everyone talks about SFC all day every day like me and you, other people have other things they do in the summer and need encouragement and motivation through advertising/marketing to get their arse into gear and buy a ticket. I think that's the difference between me and you/dulldays/nickg etc... I can empathise with other supporters and put myself in their shoes... you evidently can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I think I rest my case. Please do just that. Rest your case. You're boring. The point is you were wrong. We sold more than last season, something you said would not happen. And we at H4H look forward to the £10 you promised if it did I don't see the problem with the installment plan. I know of plenty of people who just went and got a 0% interest credit card. Easy. And if thats so difficult to find/be accepted for. Those people are better of saving their money this year for the sake of their finances. Stop clutching at staws with the quote of 'significantly more' Well done NC and team for improving of last year with time to spare. Here's to another good season SUPPORTING Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Not for you, but then again you are completely tunnel-visioned into your own view. Not everyone is as devoted to the club as you, not everyone sits on the internet for hours on day checking on all things SFC like me and you, not everyone talks about SFC all day every day like me and you, other people have other things they do in the summer and need encouragement and motivation through advertising/marketing to get their arse into gear and buy a ticket. I think that's the difference between me and you/dulldays/nickg etc... I can empathise with other supporters and put myself in their shoes... you evidently can't. Pot/Kettle?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 You should apply for a job at the club with your knowledge and insight... My problem was never the amount of season ticket holders we were going to get, my problem was the club deliberately forcing people out of getting one. It doesn't matter whether we have 10,000 or 20,000 season ticket holders, people have still been prevented from buying a season ticket due to the clubs disregard for their supporters charter. I estimated that numbers would be down, it seems I was wrong and infact they are going to be a bit higher... it doensn't mean Cortese should be patting himself on the back and a job well done. I am absolutely certain ( and even more so now ) that we should have sold 20k season tickets this year with the right sales and marketing. I would also suspect that the retention figures are significantly lower than what they normally are... that is the only figure which backs up what I suspect which means there is a large number of Saints fans who have been forced out. But the clubs unwillingness to promote season tickets / make them easy to buy etc does seem to have not worked to the extent that they would have liked, or I would have imagined it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I think I rest my case. If only! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I think I rest my case. Such a campaign would outweigh the cost of the season tickets sold. I rest my case. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Pot/Kettle?? No, not when it comes to debating how people support SFC, the majority of people that are going to waste their time on this forum are people who are obsessed with SFC and quite happy to have SFC and Cortese pull their trousers down, bend them over and f*ck them, as long as it means we get to the Premier League. There are many others away from the core which support the team in different ways, for example I know of loads of Saints fans ( including me ) that would rather we didn't get in the Premier League - this is a view which I have expressed on here many times only to be told it's bullsh!t ( even though it's my personal view as well as others ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Such a campaign would outweigh the cost of the season tickets sold. I rest my case. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D Can you give me a breakdown of the costs for each of the 4 different methods of advertising/marketing then please Nexstar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Can you give me a breakdown of the costs for each of the 4 different methods of advertising/marketing then please Nexstar? can you..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I'm going to predict, due to fans request, half-STs are reintroduced just before Christmas. I wouldn't be surprised. I think getting rid of half season tickets was a bluff to get people to buy a whole one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 can you..? I already have given an insight into the costs. Sending out renewal reminders = The cost of a couple of season tickets - The club will have a favourable deal with Cedar Press. ( Free if done by email ) Contacting people on database = The cost of a few season tickets. The club will have a favourable deal with Cedar Press. ( Free if done by email ) Putting season tickets on sale early. = Nothing. Advertising/Marketing = Minimal cost if the clubs status is used, for example I doubt the Echo would charge for advertising if they were given more access and had a good relationship with SFC... many other businesses will give contra-deals in exchange for tickets/use of facilities/access to news etc. So the cost for this is minimal as well, in alot of cases - nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 So in your opinion, the club would have not got a single more sale if they had done any of the following... a) Send renewals out. b) Contact people on the database with purchase history from last season. c) Put them on sale earlier. d) Conducted advertising and marketing campaigns. There's just 4 examples, there are many many more ways they could have maximised sales. Are you saying that the club would have not made a single extra sale had they done any of them? I've highlighted this one as I cannot understand where you are coming from, everyone knows when the season starts so don't need reminding ffs. As for maximising sales, season ticket sales are already higher than last years and we have 3 weeks to go before closure. Your only valid point is put them on sale earlier but most fans will buy no matter when, I would like to hear your "many more ways to maximise sales" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I've highlighted this one as I cannot understand where you are coming from, everyone knows when the season starts so don't need reminding ffs. As for maximising sales, season ticket sales are already higher than last years and we have 3 weeks to go before closure. Your only valid point is put them on sale earlier but most fans will buy no matter when, I would like to hear your "many more ways to maximise sales" Are you speaking on behalf of EVERYONE? Have you asked EVERYONE? - No, you're not. My mates business had 2 season tickets which they gave to employees, they didn't get a renewal notice so lapsed, by the time they noticed the discounted rates had gone so they didn't renew. There is at least one story that was posted on here of one person not renewing because they didn't get renewal notice. Some people, mainly older people still live by having an offer in writing. Oh sorry... because everyone supports the club exactly the same way that you do, don't they? FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 No, not when it comes to debating how people support SFC, the majority of people that are going to waste their time on this forum are people who are obsessed with SFC and quite happy to have SFC and Cortese pull their trousers down, bend them over and f*ck them, as long as it means we get to the Premier League. There are many others away from the core which support the team in different ways, for example I know of loads of Saints fans ( including me ) that would rather we didn't get in the Premier League - this is a view which I have expressed on here many times only to be told it's bullsh!t ( even though it's my personal view as well as others ) . Mate have a word with yourself - you're incapable of looking at things on a case-by-case basis (the occasional bit of praise just smacks of tight-fistedness and insincerity). Don't know where this small d*ck sh*t of sticking to your guns because you feel cornered comes from...but the result is that you paint yourself into some pretty ludicrous corners and come across as an agenda-driven mug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I already have given an insight into the costs. Sending out renewal reminders = The cost of a couple of season tickets - The club will have a favourable deal with Cedar Press. ( Free if done by email ) Contacting people on database = The cost of a few season tickets. The club will have a favourable deal with Cedar Press. ( Free if done by email ) Putting season tickets on sale early. = Nothing. Advertising/Marketing = Minimal cost if the clubs status is used, for example I doubt the Echo would charge for advertising if they were given more access and had a good relationship with SFC... many other businesses will give contra-deals in exchange for tickets/use of facilities/access to news etc. So the cost for this is minimal as well, in alot of cases - nothing. oh, in that case................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I don't understand your point at all or your maths. 52 x 2 = £104, x 3 = £156. I don't have a clue what those two figures relate to but it certainly isn't a season ticket price, or two, or a family's worth of season tickets. I think you need to explain. For the record some fans have gone from a situation where they could spread the cost of the payments over the course of a year to having to stump up the whole amount in one go. Having a lump sum available is very different from being able to opay for an item over the course of a season. There was also no time to prepare for this change. Finding say £700 for two tickets in just a few weeks is not easy for many many fans. The club CAN be blamed for that. I don't know your financial situation but if you had to pay for a brand new car all in one go or maybe a house all on one go would you struggle? I personally have no issue with the prices or the lack of a payment plan, but removing it at such short notice went against the clubs charter and was a poor decision in my eyes. The only reason I can see for NC doing this was that he was so ****ed off when he found out that some people may have abused the system that he pulled it instantly. I know I'd of been annoyed. But unless the number of people abusing the system were very high (and there was no indication of this from the club) then the removal of the plan hurt those that didn't abuse it. There was an alternative - send half a season ticket out once the first half had been paid and the other half once the second half had been paid. The maths is to do with the difference in ST prices form last year. If I read your earlier post right you said the increase had priced people out. It is based on a single ticket price but sure, a family will have to find a higher "lump". Ive gone through my thinkings weeks ago on another thread about payments but I will concede that a few people will have been affected. I still dont think that the club should take all the blame. The pricing is actually very reasonable....maybe the lack of installment plan was a blow but other methods and planning are/were available (not going to go into detail again) and the "window" could have been longe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 I'm going to predict, due to fans request, half-STs are reintroduced just before Christmas. that would be quite an interesting ploy if it was deliberate to say there `will not half season tickets' to encourage people to buy a full one, only then to make an about turn to maximise revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surman4no7shirt Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2096187,00.html Could be a reason why the marketing has been less than expert? New Head of Sales & Marketing Appointed today. Hopefully this will iron out all the issues some have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 that would be quite an interesting ploy if it was deliberate to say there `will not half season tickets' to encourage people to buy a full one, only then to make an about turn to maximise revenue. If we are doing well I doubt they will have them. If we are doing sh!te then I think they will. I think the installment plans will be back next season whether we go up or not, as the club will not be able to guarantee success. Sheffield Wednesday done a ploy to maximise season ticket revenue. Made their cheapest matchday ticket £25 in the Kop and announced them when season tickets went on sale. As soon as the renewal window was shut, and the majority of Season Tickets sold, they dropped the ticket price for a seat in the Kop to £19 Sneaky sneaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 that would be quite an interesting ploy if it was deliberate to say there `will not half season tickets' to encourage people to buy a full one, only then to make an about turn to maximise revenue. Agree Chez....the club will definitely have sold some full season tickets on the basis that half tickets wont be available! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthamSteve Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Excellent news. Now can we shut-up about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torsaint Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 What was our best year for ST sales in the Prem ( at St Mary's)? Can anyone remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Are you speaking on behalf of EVERYONE? Have you asked EVERYONE? - No, you're not. My mates business had 2 season tickets which they gave to employees, they didn't get a renewal notice so lapsed, by the time they noticed the discounted rates had gone so they didn't renew. There is at least one story that was posted on here of one person not renewing because they didn't get renewal notice. Some people, mainly older people still live by having an offer in writing. Oh sorry... because everyone supports the club exactly the same way that you do, don't they? FFS Must be difficult running a business without a pc. We all know when the season starts so why the renewal? I really don't know what you are saying here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 What was our best year for ST sales in the Prem ( at St Mary's)? Can anyone remember? Was about 23,000 I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 20 July, 2010 Share Posted 20 July, 2010 Must be difficult running a business without a pc. We all know when the season starts so why the renewal? I really don't know what you are saying here. I have just given you an example of how as a direct result of not sending out renewals, the club didn't get 2 season tickets. If they had sent a renewal reminder they would have sent it back and renewed but were too busy running their business to worry about looking for renewal dates. The owners aren't even Saints fans! Are you telling me I am wrong??? Really??? If so, that just proves the fact that some of your mongs can't see further than you're own nose. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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