Brutally honest, forget its me posting this - who is disappointed in our transfers ?

[CB Fry]

Because it seems very odd to go on about signings all the time without suggesting who. My point is, perhaps we can't find people to sign? Signings for the sake of signings is a bad strategy. I'm interested in knowing which players Alpine thinks would improve the squad that's all, because then I could maybe see his point. But when he gave a list of players other teams had signed as a criticism of saints, they really didn't seem to be players who'd help us, or players Alpine himself would be that pleased to come in.

 

As for the last sentence, you're criticising someone for debating a point by saying this is a football forum where we're allowed to debate the point?! I never said the manager decides lock thread you've misunderstood. I said Pardew is getting his choices (2 right backs out and 2 in) so will be accountable for success/failure, same with signing or not signing more players. It's down to him and we'll judge him on what he does with very high expectations.

 

So why can't I ask his opinion without being barracked by someone for doing so? It's a football forum afterall. xx

 

 

Nice try, but I'm not barracking you. You admitted yourself asking Alpine the same question three times on this thread, I've given you a reason why he isn't obliged to answer and why you might need to get over it.

 

I'm not stopping you debating anything.

 

But it hasn't stopped you deciding what I think and then challenging it. I missed the part where I was advocating signings for the sake of signings, or in fact, signing anyone.

 

If anything I agree with you to be honest - Pardew is there to do the job. My opinions tend to come from the wider context. He has to deliver promotion this season or he's out of a job. He knows it, Cortese knows it, the players know it, the fans know it (except the delusional "managers must have five years before anyone can judge them" stuck-in-the-80s lunatics). This coming season is a promotion season or Pardew has failed.

 

Much like you I leave it to him on who he picks, who he buys, who he sell, or where he plays them.

 

His squad, his choices. But he has a target to deliver this season and he will be evaluated against it and quite rightly so.

 

But at the end of the day people are allowed to say "I think we need a winger" without being tiresomely hounded by you to name names with your "who who WHO" routine.

Edited 21 July, 2010 by CB Fry

[once_bitterne]

I think it is worth remembering how far we have come in a short time. Last Summer we didn't even know if we would be playing in the upcoming this season. This season we have the strongest team in the league, a team that EVERY manager in the division would love to have. Yet some are worried that maybe our Second XI isn't the 2nd strongest team in the Division.

[Barry the Badger]

I think it is worth remembering how far we have come in a short time. Last Summer we didn't even know if we would be playing in the upcoming this season. This season we have the strongest team in the league, a team that EVERY manager in the division would love to have. Yet some are worried that maybe our Second XI isn't the 2nd strongest team in the Division.

 

This is true, but the club has moved on from that and so should we.

 

Yes we were in a total mess, yes we've come a long way, but it's been over a year now and it's ok for people to adjust their expectations accordingly along with our progress rather than just be forever thankful we still exist.

[saintwarwick]

I share Alpine's worry, and I think you'll find that it's down to the fact that we have no plan b. We have an impressive starting 11, but then so do other teams and they also have the ability to change things when plan a is not working, we don't.

 

Perhaps we are putting too much store in our oppositions negativity, in that we are expecting most teams to park a bus in the goalmouth when playing us at St Mary's and even in some cases on their home pitch, which will mean attempting to draw them out and then having the pace to get in behind them or using the ball that much better to create openings and cut out opposition players which we didn't do last season.

 

Another thing we disagree on is Puncheon, I have grave doubts about his ability, but the way some of you are talking about him, you make him sound like Le God or Beckham. I would much rather be seeing Antonio playing in his position this season. I know Pardew can't make Reading sell him to us, before anyone points that out, but given the fact that one of the first things Pardew did last season was to expensively assemble a scouting system, is it wrong to expect them to earn their wages by being able to identify a replacement for him especially having had three months to do so? Or is that just a waste of our resources, after all two of our three signings so far were in the League one team of the season, so it hardly took much to identify them did it!

 

I suppose the pertinent questions are: is the assembled scouting system any good, and: is Pardew listening to his scouts? As they must be identifying players to him!

 

So what is this plan B that every other team has but us? How do you know of other teams plans? As for Puncheon, have you actually seen him play? His ability is there to be seen so if you haven't seen it then I suggest you go to specsavers. Yes Antonio was good for us but not consistant, I am quite confident Puncheon will do a good if not better job than Antonio. I am sure AP's scouts are working very well hence the signings we have had already, our problem is we are a rich club so we will be held to ransom on players. I don't really get your negative views on things.

[oxfordshire_saint]

I know AP has stated that he's after a central box to box midfileder but I'd like to see one sooner rather than later.

 

Would you prefer if he signed an average one right now or took a week or two of haggling to get the man he really wants?

 

Think about it!

 

"Time to gel" is irrelevant now, as we only need a couple of signings, the core of the squad is there. If the right men are in by the 31st August, that'll do me.

[Professor]

If we haven't signed the right players, the time to worry would be 1st July, er, 1st Aug, er, no its 31st August now.....

[saintwarwick]

Would you prefer if he signed an average one right now or took a week or two of haggling to get the man he really wants?

 

Think about it!

 

"Time to gel" is irrelevant now, as we only need a couple of signings, the core of the squad is there. If the right men are in by the 31st August, that'll do me.

 

I think we all know the starting line up now and any other signings will be primarily as back up, we do need a backup in CM but as you say we have plenty of time to get someone in.

[ottery st mary]

If Messi is not signed up by xmas, I will know it has all gone wrong...

[NickG]

won't be worried if we haven't signed another player come 31st either!

[Arizona]

As far as I'm concered I'm happy if we don't sign anyone else until the season starts, then only get a couple more before the end of August. We've got players covered for each possition. We could do with another CM, pacy wide man and a striker and that's about it.

 

Gelling is only an excuse if you are:

a) George Burley

b) Having to rebuild the entire team like we did last summer.

 

One or two players here and there should fit in fairly seamlessly into the team. If you're good then you're good. Remember Saganowski and Guthrie in 2007, then Fonte and Puncheon last year. All slotted in and were top class after about 3 games.

[JustMike]

As far as I'm concered I'm happy if we don't sign anyone else until the season starts, then only get a couple more before the end of August. We've got players covered for each possition. We could do with another CM, pacy wide man and a striker and that's about it.

 

Gelling is only an excuse if you are:

a) George Burley

b) Having to rebuild the entire team like we did last summer.

 

One or two players here and there should fit in fairly seamlessly into the team. If you're good then you're good. Remember Saganowski and Guthrie in 2007, then Fonte and Puncheon last year. All slotted in and were top class after about 3 games.

 

yep, 1st 11 im happy with, goals from all angles and should be tight enough at the back. We do need to get better cover for CM. As for all this.."if we get a bad injury" stuff, than thats just bad luck and could happen to any team.

[NickG]

and there is the loan window as well if we get injuries early on

[musesaint]

Not worried

 

Reactionay thread

 

More to signings to come

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

 

we have signed Puncheon in January, who is better than Antonio and Waigo .........

 

Oh really ?

 

Puncheon is a sound , better than average , L1 or CCC player - no more . Michael Antonio on the other hand if (big if) he continues to progress at the rate we all saw last season then he could well reach a higher level I'd say . Frustrating as he undoubtedly is at times Papa Waigo is the type of impact player who could (and indeed has) won football games for his team - that type of player has a value far beyond that which you would give a decent , lower league winger in all honesty .

 

You just can't lose good attacking players of that quality and then blithely argue that we're so veryyyyy good anyway that we won't miss them somehow . There's a level of complacency implicit in this point of view that is bordering on arrogance . There is no middle ground in football - if you fail to strengthen your squad every season then you don't just stand still - more often than not you go backwards .

Edited 21 July, 2010 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE

[Smirking_Saint]

Oh really ?

 

Puncheon is a sound , better than average , L1 or CCC player - no more . Michael Antonio on the other hand if (big if) he continues to progress at the rate we all saw last season then he could well reach a higher level I'd say . Frustrating as he undoubtedly is at times Papa Waigo is the type of impact player who could (and indeed has) won football games for his team - that type of player has a value far beyond that which you would give a decent , lower league winger in all honesty .

 

Higher than CCC ?? You really have to be having a bit of a laugh, the boy is just not that great technically, great pace, good power but not always that much end product.

 

I would say he would struggle in the CCC currently. To say he looks as if he could be prem quality is somewhat laughable.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Higher than CCC ?? You really have to be having a bit of a laugh, the boy is just not that great technically, great pace, good power but not always that much end product.

 

I would say he would struggle in the CCC currently. To say he looks as if he could be prem quality is somewhat laughable.

 

Err .. I did say

 

"if he continues to progress at the rate we saw last season"

 

Do try reading what people say before criticizing them .

[The Kraken]

Oh really ?

 

Puncheon is a sound , better than average , L1 or CCC player - no more . Michael Antonio on the other hand if (big if) he continues to progress at the rate we all saw last season then he could well reach a higher level I'd say . Frustrating as he undoubtedly is at times Papa Waigo is the type of impact player who could (and indeed has) won football games for his team - that type of player has a value far beyond that which you would give a decent , lower league winger in all honesty .

 

You just can't lose good attacking players of that quality and then blithely argue that we're so veryyyyy good anyway that we won't miss them somehow . There's a level of complacency implicit in this point of view that is bordering on arrogance . There is no middle ground in football - if you fail to strengthen your squad every season then you don't just stand still - more often than not you go backwards .

 

For right now and the season to come, Puncheon is a better player than Antonio. Antonio may go on to better things in years to come, but it won't be next season, so even if he was here Puncheon would start ahead of him at RM.

 

And where are people saying we won't miss Antonio, or a player of his ilk? Pretty much the common consensus I've seen is that we are 3 signings away from having the squad we need for the whole campaign; a CM, RM and CF to cover Lambert. Hardly anyone is arguing that we won't miss Antonio.

 

But I simply have to disagree with your opinion of Waigo, I won't miss him at all and think that a combination of a fit Connolly and other new striker will comfortably cover the options he gave us.

[Smirking_Saint]

Err .. I did say

 

"if he continues to progress at the rate we saw last season"

 

Do try reading what people say before criticizing them .

 

Err you did say that he could play at a higher level than the championship if he keeps progressing, which is what i was disputing.

[NickG]

Puncheon would always likely to have been more important to us this season than Antonio, and better, would be nice to have both though!

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Err you did say that he could play at a higher level than the championship if he keeps progressing, which is what i was disputing.

 

No - you said he'd struggle in the CCC currently - which has nothing to do with the point I was making .

 

If memory serves Antonio is still a teenager - I'm quite confident he's already at least as good as Puncheon and when he matures over the next 3 or 4 years he will probably become the better player technically . As with any young player only time will tell of course .

[NickG]

24 and 20 years old.

[The Kraken]

No - you said he'd struggle in the CCC currently - which has nothing to do with the point I was making .

 

If memory serves Antonio is still a teenager - I'm quite confident he's already at least as good as Puncheon and when he matures over the next 3 or 4 years he will probably become the better player technically . As with any young player only time will tell of course .

 

Again, very much disagree. Based on their performances at the back end of last season I would start with Puncheon every time. Apart from a few notable exceptions I was mostly un-impressed with Antonio as a starter, and Puncheon was the much more reliable option, hence we he started every single league game since his signing while Antonio sat in the wings.

[NickG]

No doubt Antonio was a decent player for us, which is why fans and manager wanted him to stay.

 

Hope, and expect, he will be replaced and not an immense loss or taking apart of the squad.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Again, very much disagree. Based on their performances at the back end of last season I would start with Puncheon every time. Apart from a few notable exceptions I was mostly un-impressed with Antonio as a starter, and Puncheon was the much more reliable option, hence we he started every single league game since his signing while Antonio sat in the wings.

 

If it came to a straight choice between the two (which of course it doesn't) I put it to you that the majority of managers (and SFC fans on here for that matter) would opt for Michail Antonio over Jason Puncheon . I suggest you think back on that wonderful game this young player gave us last April when we beat Carlisle Utd 3-2 . That devastating performance we all saw that night is the crucial difference between a decent but limited player who has already found his level , and a youngster who just might go far in the game . It not just a question of raw pace either .

 

But we are both well aware of each others opinion now , so I think I'll leave it there .

[The Kraken]

If it came to a straight choice between the two (which of course it doesn't) I put it to you that the majority of managers (and SFC fans on here for that matter) would opt for Michail Antonio over Jason Puncheon . I suggest you think back on that wonderful game this young player gave us last April when we beat Carlisle Utd 3-2 . That devastating performance we all saw that night is the crucial difference between a decent but limited player who has already found his level , and a youngster who just might go far in the game . It not just a question of raw pace either .

 

But we are both well aware of each others opinion now , so I think I'll leave it there .

 

No matter what the majority of other managers think, it's pretty clear that Pardew rates Puncheon above Antonio for a starting position. And while I wouldn't presume to speak for the opinions of the majority of others on here, the comments I've seen suggest that Puncheon is seen as our first choice RM, based on our requirements for next season alone.

 

So, you're right, we'll have to agree to disagree. Antonio was capable of some very good performances but also very capable of the mundane and awful at times. You rightly pointed out before that he's young and will improve, but for this season at the very least I'd absolutely have Puncheon as he has proven it at this level and is much more likely to be the strong, consistently good player that we need. And I think the fact that he finished with so many asissts (second highest after only playing for half the season, I believe) shows that he's not just an average plodder and gives the team a brilliant extra dimension.

 

Anyway, I'm still in hope that Reading will decide he's surplus to requirements and we can have the best of both worlds with both players. He's only on a one year contract with them and if they think he is only one for the future they have absolutely no guarantee of securing his services once the season is gone (especially if he doesn't feature too often) so they may yet decide their best bet is to cash in now.

[eurosaint]

If it came to a straight choice between the two (which of course it doesn't) I put it to you that the majority of managers (and SFC fans on here for that matter) would opt for Michail Antonio over Jason Puncheon . I suggest you think back on that wonderful game this young player gave us last April when we beat Carlisle Utd 3-2 . That devastating performance we all saw that night is the crucial difference between a decent but limited player who has already found his level , and a youngster who just might go far in the game . It not just a question of raw pace either .

 

But we are both well aware of each others opinion now , so I think I'll leave it there .

 

Not me, I would start Puncheon over Antonio 9 times out of 10 because of his creativity, playmaking and (relative) consistency !

Antonio is a strong, pacy, impact player who generally excelled when used as a sub !

TBF they have different styles and I would be happy to have both in the squad but given the choice of one or the other I would opt for JP !!

[NickG]

another for Puncheon.

 

Think Pardew's selections showed he feels the same.

[Ponty]

We definitely need another CM if Pulis is now injured.

[Smirking_Saint]

No - you said he'd struggle in the CCC currently - which has nothing to do with the point I was making .

 

If memory serves Antonio is still a teenager - I'm quite confident he's already at least as good as Puncheon and when he matures over the next 3 or 4 years he will probably become the better player technically . As with any young player only time will tell of course .

 

Sigh

 

Yes i did, and he will.

 

I also said, in reference to your point, he will not play at a higher level than puncheons CCC.

 

Puncheon is streets ahead of Antonio as far as technical ability is concered. And IMO technique, control etc needs to be trained and bedded in at a young age, at least have a decent first touch etc by 16. Antonio doesn't, he will improve, but he will never have a great first touch, will never have a perfect delivery. As for managers having to make a choice between Puncheon and Antonio than i know it wouldn't be a player that lacks a technical presence. As for fans, yes i am sure a few would choose Antonio over Punch but that goes back to the fact that not all fans have a particularly good understanding of football.

 

Would i take Antonio back, sure i would, but not for anything over 300k. There is better, more advanced players for their age.

[Smirking_Saint]

We definitely need another CM if Pulis is now injured.

 

He is injured ??

 

Dear christ

 

DONT PANIC

[NickG]

If it came to a straight choice between the two (which of course it doesn't) I put it to you that the majority of managers (and SFC fans on here for that matter) would opt for Michail Antonio over Jason Puncheon . I suggest you think back on that wonderful game this young player gave us last April when we beat Carlisle Utd 3-2 . That devastating performance we all saw that night is the crucial difference between a decent but limited player who has already found his level , and a youngster who just might go far in the game . It not just a question of raw pace either .

 

But we are both well aware of each others opinion now , so I think I'll leave it there .

 

definately not the most important manager - who picks our team:

 

Puncheon signed with 19 leagues games left.

 

Alan Pardew selected him to start in all 19 of those.

 

Antonio signed with 35 league games left.

 

Alan Pardew selected him to start in 14 of those.

Edited 21 July, 2010 by NickG

[Chez]

We definitely need another CM if Pulis is now injured.

 

that will put an end to all this happy clapping.

[ottery st mary]

Dawlish Town Reserves were showing some interest in our Anthony but have now withdrawn

a possible little bid, having heard about his recent injury...especially this being the lads 247th injury in his short career.

[Turkish]

Puncheon signed with 19 leagues games left.

 

Alan Pardew selected him to start in all 19 of those.

 

Antonio signed with 35 league games left.

 

Alan Pardew selected him to start in 14 of those.

 

Puncheon was in league one team of the year, Antonio wasn't. ANd so it seems that much against CEC's view, everyone so far would pick Puncheon over Antonio?

 

Just like our new right back, but according to CEC he isn't a better bet in that postion than an average centre half playing out of position and doing an okay job there, neither is our other new right back, who has played that position in the leagues above for the last 8 seasons.

Edited 21 July, 2010 by Turkish

[mulletsaint]

It is daft to say "it's clear to me that x, y and z" and when asked why it's "clear" to reply "instinct" and expect people to be even the least bit impressed.

 

Maybe if you wrote in a style that wasn't so unequivocal your unrelenting misanthropy wouldn't be quite so difficult to bear. In turn, this might reduce the amount of mocking you get.

 

nail on head. Sometimes alps you do make very valid points. Unfortunately the way that you make them very often rubs people up the wrong way. As some who are in support of your thoughts on this thread have stated, this is a discussion forum and everyone is entitled to an opinion. Unfortunately you are amongst the worst at appearing as if it is only your own that counts.

 

Differences of opinion and the banter and discussions that ensue can be exciting and interesting, unfortunately in this case it feels like drowning slowly while not having the will to do anything about it.

[alpine_saint]

You said it is quite clear the strong start to the season will not materialise (written as fact). You were asked why, and you replied you had an "instinct". Can you see how someone would find that laughable?

 

Nope. But I can see how someone would find your point about the wording of my comment pendantic.

[captainchris]

As far as I'm concered I'm happy if we don't sign anyone else until the season starts, then only get a couple more before the end of August. We've got players covered for each possition. We could do with another CM, pacy wide man and a striker and that's about it.

 

Gelling is only an excuse if you are:

a) George Burley

b) Having to rebuild the entire team like we did last summer.

 

One or two players here and there should fit in fairly seamlessly into the team. If you're good then you're good. Remember Saganowski and Guthrie in 2007, then Fonte and Puncheon last year. All slotted in and were top class after about 3 games.

 

Dreaming I'm afraid

[Arizona]

Dreaming I'm afraid

 

Which bit?

[tedmaul]

Let's get things in perspective. Just over 12 months ago , we were days away from liquidation and not having a club to support at all. The fact some are moaning about the lack of quality signings in certain positions beggers belief. We are outspending any team in this division and have effectively bought it's top scorers. It's best left back, a championship quality central defender. A right back which Charlton fans seem to rate highly et al. And perhaps more ... Markus Liebherr has no affinity to football or Southampton. Cortese convinced him it might be a decent investment. Let's not take it for granted.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

definately not the most important manager - who picks our team:

 

Puncheon signed with 19 leagues games left.

 

Alan Pardew selected him to start in all 19 of those.

 

Antonio signed with 35 league games left.

 

Alan Pardew selected him to start in 14 of those.

 

You have obviously failed to noticed that I have decided not to initiate conversations with you anymore . The principle reasons for this are that I find your posts irritating , tedious & entirely predictable . But more serious than that you have deliberately misrepresented my point of view at least once (in this very thread) and have subsequently displayed the utter lack of grace to issue the apology I have requested . I find this unacceptable .

 

As you have refused to debate in a civilized manner I feel under no obligation to discuss any points with you Sir .

 

All I ask is that in future you show me the same consideration .

[saintwarwick]

You have obviously failed to noticed that I have decided not to initiate conversations with you anymore . The principle reasons for this are that I find your posts irritating , tedious & entirely predictable . But more serious than that you have deliberately misrepresented my point of view at least once (in this very thread) and have subsequently displayed the utter lack of grace to issue the apology I have requested . I find this unacceptable .

 

As you have refused to debate in a civilized manner I feel under no obligation to discuss any points with you Sir .

 

All I ask is that in future you show me the same consideration .

 

Did you find it difficult to discuss the facts he posted?

[NickG]

looks that way, proved wrong and sulking - not very mature.

[John B]

You have obviously failed to noticed that I have decided not to initiate conversations with you anymore . The principle reasons for this are that I find your posts irritating , tedious & entirely predictable . But more serious than that you have deliberately misrepresented my point of view at least once (in this very thread) and have subsequently displayed the utter lack of grace to issue the apology I have requested . I find this unacceptable .

 

As you have refused to debate in a civilized manner I feel under no obligation to discuss any points with you Sir .

 

All I ask is that in future you show me the same consideration .

 

 

I think it is impossible to debate the subject of the thread because of course fans would like better players to come to the club and it is quite subjective

 

Pardew is possibly looking for additions but we dont know whether he has a budget for the purpose or that high quality players want to join us.

 

The current first team is pretty good and from last nights game and the Southend game players like Wotton Seabourne and Holmes are not as bad as some people think

 

Martin and Oxlade should develop as possibly one or two of the other youngsters.

 

AS investment is being put into the Academy it is a futile exercise if the youngsters are not playing

[Dave Benson Phillips]

looks that way, proved wrong and sulking - not very mature.

 

No, I think you miss his point completely. He didn't say that at this moment in time a manager would PICK Antonio over Puncheon... he makes it quite clear in his post that he is talking about potential and the whole package.

 

Few could doubt that Antonio has got the potential to be a far better player than Puncheon and has a very promising, although raw talent.

 

Once again, just so you understand ( I realise you are a bit simple ) . He is quite clearly talking about potential and most managers would SIGN Antonio as opposed to Puncheon if they had a choice between the two.

 

Do you understand now? Also, I suggest getting a life if you come on here to get your kicks and make your life feel worthy and wetting your pants at the thought of proving someone wrong ( which you didn't ) on an internet forum.

Edited 22 July, 2010 by Dave Benson Phillips

[alpine_saint]

looks that way, proved wrong and sulking - not very mature.

 

Grow up.

[saintwarwick]

Grow up.

 

From you lol

[saintwarwick]

No, I think you miss his point completely. He didn't say that at this moment in time a manager would PICK Antonio over Puncheon... he makes it quite clear in his post that he is talking about potential and the whole package.

 

Few could doubt that Antonio has got the potential to be a far better player than Puncheon and has a very promising, although raw talent.

 

Once again, just so you understand ( I realise you are a bit simple ) . He is quite clearly talking about potential and most managers would SIGN Antonio as opposed to Puncheon if they had a choice between the two.

 

Do you understand now? Also, I suggest getting a life if you come on here to get your kicks and make your life feel worthy and wetting your pants at the thought of proving someone wrong ( which you didn't ) on an internet forum.

Pardew had the choice between the two at his disposal, he chose Puncheon over Antonio on numerous occasions, I also saw enough of both players to suggest Puncheon was the better player although Antonio was a good player as well.

[alpine_saint]

From you lol

 

Yep. From me. Well read !

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Pardew had the choice between the two at his disposal, he chose Puncheon over Antonio on numerous occasions, I also saw enough of both players to suggest Puncheon was the better player although Antonio was a good player as well.

 

You seem to be missing the point as well.

 

Puncheon is in his prime, probably the best he is going to get.

 

Antonio is a raw talent and one that could go right to the top of the game.

 

So Antonio is a better prospect and most managers would choose to BUY ( not play at this time ) him over Puncheon. IMO of course.

[slickmick]

No, I think you miss his point completely. He didn't say that at this moment in time a manager would PICK Antonio over Puncheon... he makes it quite clear in his post that he is talking about potential and the whole package.

 

Few could doubt that Antonio has got the potential to be a far better player than Puncheon and has a very promising, although raw talent.

 

Once again, just so you understand ( I realise you are a bit simple ) . He is quite clearly talking about potential and most managers would SIGN Antonio as opposed to Puncheon if they had a choice between the two.

 

Do you understand now? Also, I suggest getting a life if you come on here to get your kicks and make your life feel worthy and wetting your pants at the thought of proving someone wrong ( which you didn't ) on an internet forum.

 

Pardew had the choice between the two at his disposal, he chose Puncheon over Antonio on numerous occasions, I also saw enough of both players to suggest Puncheon was the better player although Antonio was a good player as well.

 

You really do have problems reading and understanding what others write, don't you ?

Stop trying to be a smart arse all the time and try engaging brain before you post.