Yorkshire Saint Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-10655764 So your not buying Saints then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Still makes me giggle that there are a few fans who think there was any truth in the Allen rumour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 But didn't all of that help bizzarely lead to our take-over? Somewhere, I'm sure I read that the 1st time Cortese became aware of the club was when he'd read the Paul Allen rumours online. *update* Here's the link - Thought i was going daft http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/09/back_from_the_brink_southampto.html?page=15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 I wonder who he received the email from in April 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Still makes me giggle that there are a few fans who think there was any truth in the Allen rumour! He did approach the club ( or his representatives did ) , although it was never as close to going through as some people suggested. Source - A director of the club at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 (edited) He did approach the club ( or his representatives did ) , although it was never as close to going through as some people suggested. Source - A director of the club at the time. I can confirm this, i heard from sources inside the club, very reliable but i am not going to name that his representatives did speak to the club and were seriously considering an offer, he was rumoured to be put off by certain directors unwilling to negotiate on their share prices and board room hostilities and also the fact that a CCC at £50m was probably not a good investment. Edited 16 July, 2010 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 I wonder who he received the email from in April 2009 Shhhh.....I'm not the glory hunter type, hence I've been trying to keep that email of mine quiet all this time. Don't blow my cover now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintinlondon Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 He did approach the club ( or his representatives did ) , although it was never as close to going through as some people suggested. Source - A director of the club at the time. True of what I heard as well. Heard from a number of people high up in the club and also on opposite warring sides at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Benson Phillips Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Shame as well, because if it wasn't for certain directors making unreasonable demands then we really would have had an owner who I believe would have used SFC as his toy and thrown money left, right and centre at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 I wonder who he received the email from in April 2009 Weston Saint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Paul Allen did not make any approach to the club. His company confirmed as much. There was an approach from someone who said he represented Allen's business deals. Turns out he was not connected other than he arranged a jet lease for Allen. Some of the Directors of the club truely believed Allen was behind the initial approach but Allen has always denied it. I am now firmly of the opinion Allen and his company was never involved. (Which is a change from my previous stance) And no Trousers, I never sent ny email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Paul Allen did not make any approach to the club. His company confirmed as much. There was an approach from someone who said he represented Allen's business deals. Turns out he was not connected other than he arranged a jet lease for Allen. *cough* Tommac *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 I read on another saints forum at the time that the Paul Allen stuff was one big con to increase the share price to allow various people to sell shares. It also enabled this Hone chap to put the PLC in a lockdown mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 I read on another saints forum at the time that the Paul Allen stuff was one big con to increase the share price to allow various people to sell shares Artificially inflating the share price......hmmm, wouldn't that be illegal though.....*rubs chin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 But didn't all of that help bizzarely lead to our take-over? Somewhere, I'm sure I read that the 1st time Cortese became aware of the club was when he'd read the Paul Allen rumours online. *update* Here's the link - Thought i was going daft http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/09/back_from_the_brink_southampto.html?page=15 Amazing to think that all of that hot air did in fact come to some good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Amazing to think that all of that hot air did in fact come to some good! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?16976-Tommac-and-The-Saints-Forum-indirectly-saved-Saints!&highlight=tommac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 I read on another saints forum at the time that the Paul Allen stuff was one big con to increase the share price to allow various people to sell shares. It also enabled this Hone chap to put the PLC in a lockdown mode. This is partly true. Staff at the club at the time were told that not to believe what they read in the press about take overs as a lot of it was an attempt to make the club more attractive and appear there was a lot of interest to encourage would be buyers to put up the cash. The Paul Allen stuff, whilst not being a bid or even an approach was real though, how far it got off the ground i do not know. I do know that one group came very close to a bid, someone i know very well was working until 10.30pm one night on documents for the bid but for some reason it never happened, probably the inflated share price at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 One thing which continues to bother me... Who was behind the Merrington 'Asturius' bid?! I remember at the time that they had rented office space at the Regus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 This is partly true. Staff at the club at the time were told that not to believe what they read in the press about take overs as a lot of it was an attempt to make the club more attractive and appear there was a lot of interest to encourage would be buyers to put up the cash. The Paul Allen stuff, whilst not being a bid or even an approach was real though, how far it got off the ground i do not know. I do know that one group came very close to a bid, someone i know very well was working until 10.30pm one night on documents for the bid but for some reason it never happened, probably the inflated share price at the time.Jayhard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 One thing which continues to bother me... Who was behind the Merrington 'Asturius' bid?! I remember at the time that they had rented office space at the Regus. And had a 'placeholder' website.... Also around the same time as the 'NAMG hoax'.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Please Mr Allen - save us from the multi-billionaire who owns our club now...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 He did approach the club ( or his representatives did ) , although it was never as close to going through as some people suggested. Source - A director of the club at the time. Incorrect. Someone saying there were a representative of Allen contacted the club. At one of the fan's forums, one of the Wilde bunch, can't remember if it was Doos, Hoolywotsit or Hone confirmed that when they investigated further it was found that this person was not a representative of Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 I didn't hear from anyone. I ahve no idea what went on in the board room. No director told me what was going on and I have no idea if a representative of his approached us. But I know it's all true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Incorrect. Someone saying there were a representative of Allen contacted the club. At one of the fan's forums, one of the Wilde bunch, can't remember if it was Doos, Hoolywotsit or Hone confirmed that when they investigated further it was found that this person was not a representative of Allen. *Awaits Stu Benson Phillips replying saying that actually that is exactly what his post says but you are a bit stupid, asking for an internet link to disprove him and suggesting a visit to the pub. Or something.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Jayhard? No, they are a plumbers merchants, nothing to do with football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Well there's easily enough material in that BBC article to start the rumours going again. "Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen has said he will commit the majority of his estimated $13.5bn (£8.8bn) fortune to philanthropy...." After all if buying Saints isn't philanthropy, what is? Anyone seen any good yachts lately? K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 http://aerolloyd.biz/index-1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 http://aerolloyd.biz/index-1.html Project financing is an innovative technique that has been used on many high-profile projects, including Euro Disneyland and the Eurotunnel under the English Canal. as expert as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 No, they are a plumbers merchants, nothing to do with football. Pete Harding (Jayhard) told me he had been approached but he was not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 But didn't all of that help bizzarely lead to our take-over? Somewhere, I'm sure I read that the 1st time Cortese became aware of the club was when he'd read the Paul Allen rumours online. *update* Here's the link - Thought i was going daft http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/09/back_from_the_brink_southampto.html?page=15 I made it all up so this would happen. You're welcome!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Pete Harding (Jayhard) told me he had been approached but he was not interested. And Rod Bransgrove HCC, not for him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Still makes me giggle that there are a few fans who think there was any truth in the Allen rumour!Makes me giggle that there are a few fans out there who don't think there was any truth in the Allen rumour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 Shame as well, because if it wasn't for certain directors making unreasonable demands then we really would have had an owner who I believe would have used SFC as his toy and thrown money left, right and centre at it. That could get boring rather quickly whereas a steady controlled interest would probably last longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 *Awaits Stu Benson Phillips replying saying that actually that is exactly what his post says but you are a bit stupid, asking for an internet link to disprove him and suggesting a visit to the pub. Or something.* I think you've got DaveBensonRant all wrong mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 16 July, 2010 Share Posted 16 July, 2010 I remember reading this at the time: "he believes there is long term investment value in UK Soccer. Southampton is a sleeping giant, a family-supported club with traditional values, and we see the value in taking the brand global." and thinking that it was among the clumsiest p*ss-takes I'd read about in quite a while. There is no Southampton 'brand' any more than there is a Brentford 'brand' or a Burnley 'brand'. The level of credulity was embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 8 years ago? Turns out he was looking for an old wreck rather than a football club all along.... http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a086ccf442804bd29368e96cab349cdb/microsoft-co-founder-says-he-found-sunken-japan-wwii Microsoft co-founder and philanthropist Paul Allen says he's found a massive Japanese World War II battleship off the Philippines near where it sank over 70 years ago. The apparent discovery of the wreckage of the Musashi, one of the largest battleships in history, comes as the world marks the 70th anniversary of the war's end. Allen's publicity agency Edelman said in a statement Wednesday that Allen and his research team aboard his superyacht M/Y Octopus found the ship over the weekend, more than eight years after their search began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 8 years ago? Turns out he was looking for an old wreck rather than a football club all along.... http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a086ccf442804bd29368e96cab349cdb/microsoft-co-founder-says-he-found-sunken-japan-wwii Well then it's true, he was on the lookout for an old wreck all along then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Just in case anyone gets excited it's the new P&O ship Britannia docking Friday not Paul Allen's play thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 8 years ago? Turns out he was looking for an old wreck rather than a football club all along.... http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a086ccf442804bd29368e96cab349cdb/microsoft-co-founder-says-he-found-sunken-japan-wwii Surprising he wasn't spotted in Skatesville Harbour in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 didnt he die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 didnt he die? ........apparantly NOT ! Disappointed .....or surprised ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 didnt he die? You may be getting confused with Steve Jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Well, if he's looking for a dilapidated piece of crap .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 (edited) At the time of the rumours in 2007 I was one of the mods on this forum's predecessor, and as such I was party to certain information which, at the time, I was duty bound not to pass on. Seeing as so much time has now passed, I guess it doesn't matter if I share what I know, although I won't name names. One of my fellow mods at the time had a private meeting with a very well respected director of the club at the time, and was told by this person in no uncertain terms that the board had indeed met with people representing, or at least claiming to represent Paul Allen, and that there was a genuine, serious interest there. Make of that what you will. Edited 4 March, 2015 by Sheaf Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 At the time of the rumours in 2007 I was one of the mods on this forum's predecessor, and as such I was party to certain information which, at the time, I was duty bound not to pass on. Seeing as so much time has now passed, I guess it doesn't matter if I share what I know, although I won't name names. One of my fellow mods at the time had a private meeting with a very well respected director of the club at the time, and was told by this person in no uncertain terms that the board had indeed met with people representing, or at least claiming to represent Paul Allen, and that there was a genuine, serious interest there. Make of that what you will. I never stopped believing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 At the time of the rumours in 2007 I was one of the mods on this forum's predecessor, and as such I was party to certain information which, at the time, I was duty bound not to pass on. Seeing as so much time has now passed, I guess it doesn't matter if I share what I know, although I won't name names. One of my fellow mods at the time had a private meeting with a very well respected director of the club at the time, and was told by this person in no uncertain terms that the board had indeed met with people representing, or at least claiming to represent Paul Allen, and that there was a genuine, serious interest there. Make of that what you will. I think I know who you mean, he was a good guy but I felt in the end that he was sold a lot of rubbish and took it all a bit too seriously. I think I even thought there was something in it at some point, but when you had the likes of Saint David (Remember him???) and lifelongsaint posting, that started to raise big doubts for me. And then we had the good old fun with the Pinnacle bid, where some familiar names raised their heads above the trenches again - and that takeover would have been a true disaster for us I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 I'm still suffering the trauma of realising a monkey chicken petting zoo is a complete fabrication and will never happen (in my lifetime). The fees at the Priory are mounting every day...please help me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 (edited) At the time of the rumours in 2007 I was one of the mods on this forum's predecessor, and as such I was party to certain information which, at the time, I was duty bound not to pass on. Seeing as so much time has now passed, I guess it doesn't matter if I share what I know, although I won't name names. One of my fellow mods at the time had a private meeting with a very well respected director of the club at the time, and was told by this person in no uncertain terms that the board had indeed met with people representing, or at least claiming to represent Paul Allen, and that there was a genuine, serious interest there. Make of that what you will. The "representative" was Tommac.... or so he led people to believe.... (?) Edited 4 March, 2015 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 At the time of the rumours in 2007 I was one of the mods on this forum's predecessor, and as such I was party to certain information which, at the time, I was duty bound not to pass on. Seeing as so much time has now passed, I guess it doesn't matter if I share what I know, although I won't name names. One of my fellow mods at the time had a private meeting with a very well respected director of the club at the time, and was told by this person in no uncertain terms that the board had indeed met with people representing, or at least claiming to represent Paul Allen, and that there was a genuine, serious interest there. Make of that what you will. Therein lies the rub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Aahhhh great days, my how I miss good old tommac and LLS, where the hell is he these days. still drowning his sorrows down on the Cherries forum. Great days.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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