hypochondriac Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 I see we've started as we mean to go on.... Even bigger lol than before (unless that was a joke.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 I wouldn't read too much into a rusty chop and change side losing 4-2 to a Swiss side on pre season. It's a good wake up call, no doubt giving Pardew food for thought. It's better to get the mistakes out of the way early in pre-season so you can learn from them, rather than in the first game of the season. Holiday is over, the real work begins now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2091444,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 OK, so Thun have had their pre-season and have their first league game on Saturday, but on the other hand they have only just won promotion back to the Swiss Super League after a season in the second division. Maybe Saints should bring back one or two of the Thun team with them when they come home.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 I see we've started as we mean to go on.... If you mean the moaners then you may have a point. If you mean the team then you are sick in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 First half was obviously not ideal being 3-0 down. But actually, our second half display, which was with a team much closer to our starting XI next year, won the half 2-1. So not all bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsub Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 and sounds like young Oxlade-Chamberlain had a good game ...so lots of positives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 Shh, mine wasn't serious, just feeding No kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 Is it just me? Our away kit is supposed to be black, but in the pictures from Thun it looks decidedly blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 I see we've started as we mean to go on....spot on, we took far too long to sign the league 1 right back of the year and look what happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 Scoreline was far from what we wanted but as far as the team are concerned most players got a run out and 2 formations were tried. 1st game for us and last of pre-season for them and all that. Will serve as a stick to beat the team with as pares no doubt will demand better. Bit of a shame the other saints xi lost too but at least things can only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 Apart from it only being an early pre season friendly for match fitness you only need to look at the teams in each half. 1st half - Saints Lost 3-0 and only had 4 likely starters in a Saints XI come August 7th - Davis, Harding or Dickson, Puncheon, Fonte 2nd half - Saints Won 2-1 and had 7 likely starters in a Saints XI come August 7th - Harding or Dickson, Puncheon, Hammond, Schneiderlin, Lambert, Fonte, Connolly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keithd Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 football out not good enough ffs only 6 minutes til deadline closes. nobody in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 The abscense of Lallana is a little worrying though don't you think. To not see him either half and no mention why he was not in the side is strange in my eyes. If he were to be on his way who would be the natural replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 The abscense of Lallana is a little worrying though don't you think. To not see him either half and no mention why he was not in the side is strange in my eyes. If he were to be on his way who would be the natural replacement? Discussed already beyond the point of boredom on here AND a thread of it's own TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 the team needs time to gel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 Bit of a drive back to Italy so I'm unwinding over a beer which I couldn't have earlier. I'll give you the benefit of my view but I'm completely confused by who is who these days, especially without seeing a teamsheet! I thought it was Forecast in goal for the first half: if it was Davis I dunno what he's done with his hair, lost a bit, looks like! It was a good work-out, make no mistake: Thun looked sharp and start their competitive season this weekend and they had a bit of pace throughout the side. Far better to play them (on a very good pitch) than semi-professionals like Havant & Waterlooville etc, and a team far better than pretty well all in League 1 if a little less physical. Dickson got skinned a few times and his passing was poor: as noted, he gave away the pass for the goal. I didn't realise it was Callum McNish playing, and he's not quite there yet against this level of opposition Different game in the second half when Schneiderlin, Lambert and Connolly all made a big difference. Connolly did look bright, with good movement. Oxlade-Chamberlain did _very_ well: pace to burn, still needs a bit of experience to make the right decision and the final delivery but the sort of player you're going to look forward to seeing coming on. He went off with cramp, but he'd worked very hard, including covering his full-back. I think all the planned subs had come on as they sent on Jaidi: gawd, he looks slow and could have been in the book in a non-friendly and in fact after the end of the game he was doing sprinting training with one of the coaches. Mills came on for Dickson and looked OK. A bit slow for raw pace perhaps but did a good covering tackle and looked comfortable on the ball and in his interpassing. Martin I think could certainly make it in League 1 if not higher, and has done well considering he came into football late via Eastleigh: he's a talker and I think has the intelligence and basic pace to improve. We played some good football and I'm reasonably optimistic, having actually seen the game;-). No need to cut your wrists on a first friendly, honest. For a first match I enjoyed it, and it was far better than some friendlies I've seen with some good interpassing. We obviously need to cut out some of the mistakes and improve some of the positional play, but nothing that can't be achieved. We've got a good team, especially if Lallana plays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 The abscense of Lallana is a little worrying though don't you think. To not see him either half and no mention why he was not in the side is strange in my eyes. If he were to be on his way who would be the natural replacement? He is injured. It says so on the website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 always far too much importance placed on pre-season friendlies, especially the early ones.... we've won them all in pre-season and had a bad start/bad season and we've lost them all in pre-season and had a good start (well thats rare actually ) or rather a good season!! Roll on august 6th .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 He is injured. It says so on the website. Well, he was on the coach and gave me a wave as I was parked up when they arrived. I then went for a lovely swim in Lake Thun and turned up a few minutes before the match. I thought I was mad to go to a pre-season friendly but there were quite a few nutters who came all the way from the UK. I think everyone would agree that it was a lovely place for a short break. Most of the Saints fans stood on the terrace on the lake side where some of the locals were buying them beers but there were quite a few of us sensible ones who ended up in the shade of the "main" stand; the people just in front of me were Saints fans living in Switzerland and there were others behind me. Lets face it, Saints fans are everywhere: Basel, Berne, Zurich, Italy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 13 July, 2010 Share Posted 13 July, 2010 http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=35590&page=1#Item_0 I hope that is not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=35590&page=1#Item_0 I hope that is not true. Does seem weird that he didn't play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 (edited) Well that's not really a lot to go on TBH. Fraser Richardson has dislocated his shoulder apparently. Where have you heard this Swis? Another former heard it from Parky So essentially guesswork as we get on here and even IF true then it's usually just a couple of weeks complete rest and then rehab begins. NB Name actually spelt incorrectly on Charlton fan site. Edited 14 July, 2010 by chrisobee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 (edited) Bit of a drive back to Italy so I'm unwinding over a beer which I couldn't have earlier. I'll give you the benefit of my view but I'm completely confused by who is who these days, especially without seeing a teamsheet! I thought it was Forecast in goal for the first half: if it was Davis I dunno what he's done with his hair, lost a bit, looks like! It was a good work-out, make no mistake: Thun looked sharp and start their competitive season this weekend and they had a bit of pace throughout the side. Far better to play them (on a very good pitch) than semi-professionals like Havant & Waterlooville etc, and a team far better than pretty well all in League 1 if a little less physical. Dickson got skinned a few times and his passing was poor: as noted, he gave away the pass for the goal. I didn't realise it was Callum McNish playing, and he's not quite there yet against this level of opposition Different game in the second half when Schneiderlin, Lambert and Connolly all made a big difference. Connolly did look bright, with good movement. Oxlade-Chamberlain did _very_ well: pace to burn, still needs a bit of experience to make the right decision and the final delivery but the sort of player you're going to look forward to seeing coming on. He went off with cramp, but he'd worked very hard, including covering his full-back. I think all the planned subs had come on as they sent on Jaidi: gawd, he looks slow and could have been in the book in a non-friendly and in fact after the end of the game he was doing sprinting training with one of the coaches. Mills came on for Dickson and looked OK. A bit slow for raw pace perhaps but did a good covering tackle and looked comfortable on the ball and in his interpassing. Martin I think could certainly make it in League 1 if not higher, and has done well considering he came into football late via Eastleigh: he's a talker and I think has the intelligence and basic pace to improve. We played some good football and I'm reasonably optimistic, having actually seen the game;-). No need to cut your wrists on a first friendly, honest. For a first match I enjoyed it, and it was far better than some friendlies I've seen with some good interpassing. We obviously need to cut out some of the mistakes and improve some of the positional play, but nothing that can't be achieved. We've got a good team, especially if Lallana plays! Thanks Sue, I said a while back that we need to bring young players through for the sake of our long term future, these 2 players in particular look very, very promising. Based on your first paragraph I doubt you'd have even recognise Frazer Richardson but did you seen ANYONE with their arm in a sling Edited 14 July, 2010 by chrisobee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 I doubt you'd have even recognise Frazer Richardson but did you seen ANYONE with their arm in a sling Nope, but their were some fans hanging around for autographs and the like so maybe somebody will pipe up later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 Nope, but their were some fans hanging around for autographs and the like so maybe somebody will pipe up later. Thanks, nothing from twitland yet ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 I don't think you can ever read to much into pre-season, especially the first match against decent opposition. Good report from suewhistle good to see Connolly looking lively,lets hope he can stay fit & have a good season. Martin sounds like he is coming on well. All about fitness & getting some game time for now. Lets hope that's B/S from the Charlton web site, that would be a blow if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 Apart from players on the fringe I've yet to see any first teamer really put themselves about on a pre season game. Nine times out of ten it's just an exercise to stretch the limbs and shake off the "cobwebs" and get back into the old routine. Again, roll on the new season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=35590&page=1#Item_0 . Mongs on there. Get over it FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 First set of photos can be found here, I'll upload the rest from last night's game later (they all need resizing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 was Papa Waigo there? http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/606/A71663916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 14 July, 2010 Share Posted 14 July, 2010 Didn't see anybody remotely looking like him. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 Apparently Rennes have made a tentative offer for Papa - Source http://www.violanews.com/news.asp?idnew=59729 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 Apparently Renee's made a tentative offer for Papa - Source http://www.violanews.com/news.asp?idnew=59729 ... or maybe they got Renee confused with Rafa and Papa is on his way to Inter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 I don't think you can ever read to much into pre-season, especially the first match against decent opposition. Good report from suewhistle good to see Connolly looking lively,lets hope he can stay fit & have a good season. Martin sounds like he is coming on well. All about fitness & getting some game time for now. Lets hope that's B/S from the Charlton web site, that would be a blow if true. spot on hell Chartlon lost to wimbledon AFC 2-0 Bristol rovers lost to bath city 2-0 Plymouth got tonked 3-1 by Torquay looking at those results 4-2 against a team playing CL last season doesn't look bad at all. We will only get stronger in the next few weeks as fitness levels go up and the players shake the rust out of their systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 Just a thought that occurred to me, but in view of the moaning about not telling the fans I reckon that the game was, genuinely, organised at the last minute. Sure the training camp was planned, but that was going to be an intensive and closed affair. Given the late news from Saints, even later on the Thun FC site and AP's comments about 'too soon' I reckon that this came up late in the day. No charge to the fans either, which there might have been if this had been a money-making exercise like Poopey's tour.:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 looking at those results 4-2 against a team playing CL last season doesn't look bad at all. We will only get stronger in the next few weeks as fitness levels go up and the players shake the rust out of their systems. Just to correct you slightly, Thun played CL football about 4 or 5 years ago - last season they were promoted from the Swiss 2nd division. That said, they appear to have a good pre-season (I think won all of their 6 games including against us) and start their league season this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 Just to correct you slightly, Thun played CL football about 4 or 5 years ago - last season they were promoted from the Swiss 2nd division. That said, they appear to have a good pre-season (I think won all of their 6 games including against us) and start their league season this weekend. Fair enough my mistake. I'm pretty sure they're still a much better side than the non-league/league two sides some of our legaue one rivals lost to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 How come Lallana didn't play? Dislocated his wrist waving to suewhistle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 Fair enough my mistake. I'm pretty sure they're still a much better side than the non-league/league two sides some of our legaue one rivals lost to though. Absolutely, I did look at the list of opening pre-season games & think 1 or 2 had games against PL 'names' but then that could just have been their youth team, as Winchester played our Saints XI. No-one would have played a team as prepared as Thun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 Just watched the highlights and some of Thun's play was better than any League One team is likely to serve up. Major positive appears to be David Connolly for us. Put a cracking finish in but got disallowed unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 Dislocated his wrist waving to suewhistle Far too young for me and I wouldn't want to jeopardize my CRB status thanks!;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 15 July, 2010 Share Posted 15 July, 2010 Just watched the highlights and some of Thun's play was better than any League One team is likely to serve up. Major positive appears to be David Connolly for us. Put a cracking finish in but got disallowed unfortunately. .. as I said in my brief report... :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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