Jon Otsemobor

[tartanowl]

We had a very good right back in USA international Frank Simek until recently but his career looks finished now after he suffered a serious injury. A real shame at such a young age and unfortuantely he was deemed not worthy of a new contract. He has lost several yards of pace and he doesn't look anything like the same player and he probably won't ever be the same again.

 

To be honest out of the several players we have signed this pre-season Otsemobor is the one signing our fans are not overly enthused about. I would like to hear your opinions on the lad as you will have no doubt seen him play more regularly.

 

What is he like?

What are his strengths and weaknesses?

 

Thanks in advance Saints fans

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

His pace will get him out of trouble more often that not. Not great positionally so relies on his pace to make amends. Ok going forward.

[Smirking_Saint]

Good going forward, very quick and so this helps if being broken against.

 

That said he is rubbish in the tackle when he actually seems like to want to tackle, which doesn't happen very often. Can't header etc.

 

He is ok, but seems like he needs an experienced CB to his left to keep him in check and stop him going away with the fairies. But does a job i suppose.

 

Hope that helps.

[Doctoroncall]

He had 6 months to impress Pardew here and he didn't do enough. An average player for league one, good going forward with plenty of pace but defensively lacking (positioning, tackling and concentration).

[Hopkins]

Average. Infact below average but his pace helps him become average. He couldn't even get in the Rotherham team a while back. Solid but I've spoke to another Wednesday fan and he's worried you'll actually use him as your first choice RB. Apparently your after someone else maybe too?

 

Anyway, have you really paid a fiver to post on another teams forums?

[NickG]

reviews when he was released by (Norwich?) fans was that he is pretty good but loses concentration. Think that is fair- he did some good one touch link up play with Puncheon down the right but then the game would pass him by - not good enough defender for his level imho.

[skintsaint]

Pretty quick player, makes a few mistakes but pace gets him out of jail most times. would of made good back up for us this season. Will do you a decent job.

[MarkSFC]

I think he is competant at best at this level. Think the fact that last years champions let him go mid season and the fact that we (similar ambitions) have let him go sums it up really.

 

Having said that, he's never really had a run in a team and maybe one of those players who needs to have his confidence built.

[explorer saint]

Poor player probably the worst in a Saints shirt last season and on a couple of occasions he bottled out of going in for a tackle, which as you can imagine didn't go down too well, pleased we have got rid of him. On a plus side he does have some pace.

[hypochondriac]

Would be good backup. We should have kept him for backup unless we bring someone in better.

[Glasgow_Saint]

He is slow

[L1Minus10]

If there's a 50/50 tackle to be made, he won't. If there's a 60/40 tackle to be made in his favour, he won't. If there's any tackle to be made, he won't. I was delighted he was released. He showed flashes going forward but in the main, the negatives fasr outweigh the positives. His main asset is his pace but I would back a slow player to get to the correct place on the pitch quicker than he does because the slow player would probably know where the right place was. If he didn't have the pace, he wouldn't be a footballer.

[hypochondriac]

Can I just add how nice it is to see a non saints fan on here. We don't get many apart from skates and it's good to get another opinion.

[Bailey]

He does a job, that's about it.

 

His pace is a real asset and going forward he is good, but his positioning often lets him down and he tends to shy away from a tackle.

 

Otsemobor isn't a bad signing on a free, and he is more than capable at this level, but if Sheffield Wednesday were to get promoted, he'd struggle to hold down a place in your starting XI in The Championship.

[Surman4no7shirt]

Agree with all the above, except to mention good right backs are few and far between at this level, so taking that into consideration, along with the free factor he'll do a job for you, providing your CB's will tackle for him.

[Colinjb]

Would be good backup. We should have kept him for backup unless we bring someone in better.

 

Agreed, would have been excellent back up for Ricardson. Hope we are bringing in someone new (or by fluke Murty has regained his fitness.)

[Wopper]

Crap

[hypochondriac]

I don't think he was crap. Sure he has obvious weaknesses and isn't brilliant but he is an OK choice. As I said I would have kept him as backup.

[Block 5]

Possibly a better winger than RB.

[corsacar saint]

One of the main requisites for a defender is being able to tackle,he is one of the worst defensive tacklers I have ever seen.

Beware

[Stu Man Do]

Doesn't like to tackle, not as good going forward as I was led to believe on signing him but then I guess he wouldn't have been on a free if he was any good! He might make me eat my words and will no doubt lay on the winner between our two teams now but I don't think you'll be overly impressed with him!

[RedAndWhite91]

He's good getting up the wing but can often be caught out coming back. He seems to have trouble in the tackle and heading definitely isn't one of his strong points. He does have a bit of flair and can cross a ball, but as I said that's not great for a RB who struggles to get back sometimes.

[JustMike]

i actually rated him here with us. Never let us down

[Iowsaintsfan]

So AP we need to be attacking Sheff wed down the left though im sure you are more than aware of this!

 

Though tbh i didnt think he was quite as bad as you are all making out but maybe is pace was getting him out of jail along with a host of "better signings" that arrived at the same time who looked better i.e. Fonte

Edited 8 July, 2010 by Iowsaintsfan

[RonManager]

Can I just add how nice it is to see a non saints fan on here. We don't get many apart from skates and it's good to get another opinion.

 

No, sorry, there isn't time.

[forever a red and white]

same gerenal theme. concentration poor as is his positioning. Great pace would like ot have seen more lung busitng runs down the wing. That said, should do a decent enough job.

[Graffito]

The main problem was that he seemed sometimes to lose concentration. If the coaching staff can sort that out, I think he'll do ok.

[hamster]

i actually rated him here with us. Never let us down

 

Millwal? Then again tbf they all got caught napping.

 

I Like JO but got the impression that Fonte and Jaidi had to keep one eye on him a bit too often.

[hamster]

Not good enough for saints - good enough for you lot though.

 

hth

[Chez]

he got himself and us out of jail on a number of occasions due to his pace. If you have slow centre backs then that can be a real asset. I'm slightly concerned we will miss that now he has gone. The problem though is that he is a total bottler. I saw him make two maybe three tackles in the entire time he was here. That is not what you want from your fullback. He is also far to namby pamby. He never bullies an oponent or outmuscles anyone. He also doesn't get close enough to the wide player so they get pretty much free reign to cross at will. As for going forward, he is comfortable on the ball but he is quite tentative/reserved with his runs. You'd hardly say he was an attacking fullback. That can be an asset as he doesn't leave huge gaps, but at times when there is acres of space in front of him he will get a nose bleed and return to his own half. As has been said on here a few times he also switches off, ball watching from time to time and seems to react to things after they have happened rather than expect and prepare for the worse.

Edited 8 July, 2010 by Chez

[chrisobee]

Not good enough for saints - good enough for you lot though.

 

hth

 

You stole my script;)

[chrisobee]

Millwal? Then again tbf they all got caught napping.

 

I Like JO but got the impression that Fonte and Jaidi had to keep one eye on him a bit too often.

 

And again

[Kaiser Soze]

Dogsh1t, very pleased he was released.

 

Best of luck, you're gonna need it.

[NickG]

not only good to have other fans but good to have football thread!

 

I know some prefer the Cortesse threads (and only post on them!) but good to strt voicing some football opinions!

[Surman4no7shirt]

Millwal? Then again tbf they all got caught napping.

 

I Like JO but got the impression that Fonte and Jaidi had to keep one eye on him a bit too often.

 

Do you mean the 1-1 away with Hardings debut in January?

[hamster]

Do you mean the 1-1 away with Hardings debut in January?

 

Yeah, 3 debutantes iirc?

[the saint in winchester]

I don't think he was crap. Sure he has obvious weaknesses and isn't brilliant but he is an OK choice. As I said I would have kept him as backup.

 

Don't need him as backup. We have Sam Argent and maybe Graeme Murty too.

[Sour Mash]

Not sure why so many are saying he's good going forward, he wasn't and his crosses were gash.

[SuperMikey]

Pretty sh1t tbh, looked okay going forward but lacks any physical presence and any defensive qualities were non-existant. Having said that, he's decent at this level on a free, but you'll probably look to get a better RB in the January window.

[Asaint4ever]

frazer richardson

[Saint_clark]

I didn't think he was as bad as everyone else seems to. His last two games for us he was outstanding, particularly Southend.

[Raven on the wing]

Yes he had good pace which we lacked @ full back & yes he got into advanced positions - but do you remember any telling crosses from him - I cant !

[Andy_Porter]

He's Scouse

He plays like he's stoned

He got shot in the arse

 

Nothing positive to say i'm afraid.

[wild-saint]

He is very unagressive for a fullback. We let him go what more do you want to know? But then you think Todger is better than Lambert so you will probably be calling him to be playing for England after a few games.

[tartanowl]

Some interesting views there and it confirms my fear that he is probably not the best signing and the weakest that Alan has made this pre-season. Thanks for the opinions lads and lasses.

 

He is very unagressive for a fullback. We let him go what more do you want to know? But then you think Todger is better than Lambert so you will probably be calling him to be playing for England after a few games.

 

Is this going to become a running theme?

 

Yes if it needs repeating, I do think Tudgay is a better footballer than Lambert. As I said in another thread it is all about opinions.

 

And for all I care about England I'd be quite happy for Otsemobor to play for them.

[Surman4no7shirt]

I do think Tudgay is a better footballer than Lambert.

 

Do you think a name like Lambert is better on your shirt than having a Tadgay on it?

[saint1977]

Some interesting views there and it confirms my fear that he is probably not the best signing and the weakest that Alan has made this pre-season. Thanks for the opinions lads and lasses.

 

 

 

Is this going to become a running theme?

 

Yes if it needs repeating, I do think Tudgay is a better footballer than Lambert. As I said in another thread it is all about opinions.

 

And for all I care about England I'd be quite happy for Otsemobor to play for them.

 

Welcome to the forum, should be some interesting banter over the season between the 3-4 clubs that will be promotion favourites (Saints, Weds, Hudds, Swindon) with P'boro and one or two others having a say. I'd echo the comments on Jon that have been made here - bags of pace and can deliver a decent ball but positionally iffy and does lose concentration (Millwall away for example) at vital times. He was better than Norwich friends had predicted he'd be and I think with Dodd and Pardew at the club Saints thought that they could specifically help him. It didn't work out, maybe Irvine can turn his career around?

 

Just out of interest, a good friend of mine is a Carlisle fan and said that they'd signed Simek. In the light of your comments, could Simek get back to near his old post-injury level with a run of games and the right conditioning or do Carlisle just accept that he'll be a tidy L1 full back but not the much better player he used to be?

[SNSUN]

Was happy when he was released, was happier when we signed the League One team of the year right back to replace him. As a stand in right back, we could've had worse though.

 

Average player with lots of pace. It's no coincidence that he's never settled at a team. Hope you have better luck with him.

[Hopkins]

Just so everyone knows play on names are not cool or funny.

[Ashby Saint]

Do you think a name like Lambert is better on your shirt than having a Tadgay on it?

 

Juvenile. Why can't we have a football conversation without resorting name-calling like this? Pathetic.