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Also there was J Fulthorpe and, because we had both placed lucrative bets we fell into an interesting conversation around the Ladbrokes desk, post match.

 

Because of JF's tip we thanked him in the bar afterwards and asked him what was going on with the takeover

 

Just to clarify, were the bar and the Ladbrokes desk in the same vicinity...?

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This thread has taken quite a detour from Long Shot chatting with Fulthorpe!

 

Thank God -if I had predicted the reaction I would have stayed stum - and that's a shame.

 

Whatever JF's faults, indiscretions and loose lips he has tried to put something together, he is a fan who spent 7 hours of his time on the road to watch Saints and (politely) he did bother to try and answer our questions when he could have told us to FO. I think, like many on here he lets his heart rule his head. We are all desperate to see our fortunes improve and he is no different. Sure he should say nothing unless it is all signed sealed and delivered but when it is as emotional as "the team you love" common sense often takes a back seat.

 

And he did give us a bloody good "heads up" with that tip. Mrs "Long Shot" is out spending the proceeds as I type.:rolleyes:

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Thanks for the vote of confidence, Mr Mole;)

Myself and two friends were having lunch at the Rovers hospitality suite pre-match. Fulthorpe approached our table as he knew someone on it. At that precise moment I didn't know him from Adam. As he took his leave he said to us (he presumed we were Saints fans I guess) that he reckoned Surman to be the first Saints player to score and us to win 2-0 at 125/1 was an excellent bet. I agreed and my 2 friends and I decided to have a tenner each (£30 for the sake of Mr Mole). Coincidentally when we took our seats we were sitting next to JF and as the 2nd half wore on we found out his identity and the fact that he too had a tenner on his "tip".

 

When Saints got their 2nd pen their were some mixed feelings in our camp and probably it was the only time I ever wanted Saints to miss - which they did. So that's the story. Because of JF's tip we thanked him in the bar afterwards and asked him what was going on with the takeover (as no doubt most of you would have done). I decided to share the info on here leaving out some small bits which are too sensitive for a forum. I find it amazing that by doing so one poster feels that I am full of s***. Sad, but I hope the majority of you appreciate the info which is 100% genuine. I also hope when other people come on here they are not intimidated by such comments to post genuine info.

 

So TopGun is spot on and so is Steve Grant. Ladbrokes do not count own goals so the bet on first scorer stays alive.

 

And I relieved £3780 from Ladbrokes in Shirley High St this morning if anyone wants to ring to check. 3 x 1250 plus £30 stake back and no I did not collect JF's winnings. Hope that clears up the mistrust.

 

I was also in the Rovers hospitality suite on Saturday, and also had Surman and Saints 2-0, but did not think it would pay out, so good news all round, I was also told by JF who I have never met in my life before Saturday that he intends to take over Saints.

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Just to clarify, were the bar and the Ladbrokes desk in the same vicinity...?

 

 

Bloody hell Trousers - yes, the Ladbrokes desk was about 20 feet from the bar. Doncaster hospitality is a lot smaller than SMS, by the time the game had finished, the word had spread that a small group of Saints fans had sort of taken the local bookies to the cleaners and the four of us were pretty **** a' hoop. Seeing your side win on the road and pocketing the best part of £1300 does wonders for bonhomie. Sad thing is it will never get any better, so perhaps I will retire from going away.

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I was also in the Rovers hospitality suite on Saturday, and also had Surman and Saints 2-0, but did not think it would pay out, so good news all round, I was also told by JF who I have never met in my life before Saturday that he intends to take over Saints.

 

Excellent the back up is here...

 

LLS and StDavid anyone?

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Always a shame when someone posts with good intention and without a track record for bull****ting yet is challenged almost for every word posted.

 

 

Thanks WS. If this forum is to flourish then people are going to have to realise that shooting apparent genuine posters down in flames is not going to give us a healthy arena for debate. TBH I could have better spent my time today trying to justify an honest post which I hoped would be informative. I could have been studying the odds for tomorrow - I'd love to know what Mr Fulthorpe is putting his money on.

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Christ...

 

Someone starts a takeover thread and so for some reason every one starts making mongish posts exposing their ignorance about betting and finance such as this little beauty...

 

Obviously Fulthorpe is a very astute businessman if this report is true. Just as he is about to try to buy shares from Lowe, Wilde and any other substantial shareholders who he needs to persuade to sell, Fulthorpe meets a complete stranger at a bookmaker's table, and tells him about his plans to bid for shares in SLH plc. Excellent way of getting the share price up.

Or......maybe Long Shot's other assessment waas correct - Walter Mitty attention seeker.

 

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Wowsers, look at it soar on the back of this thread.

 

The only time any takeover rumours have affected our shareprice was when the national and local print, radio and television media were suggesting that one of the world's richest men was about to express an interest.

 

 

FFS - that's why these threads always turn into un-navigable monsters.

 

Let's take it at face value: OP says Fulthorpe has told him takeover's imminent.... well he's told several people that over the course of several months. It seems as though the £50m Dubai war-fund has been ditched now though. There is no reason to doubt the OP's comments (indeed they seem to have been verified by other posters anyway).

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The 'trouble' with internet message boards is that 'rogue' posters and 'genuine' posters often come across in the same way.

 

So it's a 'no win' for anyone who wants to be 100% sure they're dealing with a 'genuine' poster over a 'rogue' poster.

 

I've lost count of the number of times on here over the last 18 months that we've had people saying to lay off supposed 'genuine' posters only for it to transpire they were in fact 'rogue' posters.

 

So, from past experience, there's as much justification to suspect that this thread is 'genuine' as there is to suspect it might be 'rogue'.

 

That's all.

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Bloody hell Trousers - yes, the Ladbrokes desk was about 20 feet from the bar.

 

Cheers! Apologies for the dotting of i's and crossing of t's. I've never quite managed to shake off winning the UK and Ireland allcomers Cluedo championship in 1983. Waddingtons have got a lot to answer for if you ask me. That said, it has been the minor details that have tripped up some infamous herring rouges down the years....HMR and her 20 minute flight from Sweden to Berlin rings a bell! (not that I'm comparing you to a ginger American chap pretending to be a woman with an IP mask on the beach of course...!)

 

:)

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The 'trouble' with internet message boards is that 'rogue' posters and 'genuine' posters often come across in the same way.

 

So it's a 'no win' for anyone who wants to be 100% sure they're dealing with a 'genuine' poster over a 'rogue' poster.

 

I've lost count of the number of times on here over the last 18 months that we've had people saying to lay off supposed 'genuine' posters only for it to transpire they were in fact 'rogue' posters.

 

So, from past experience, there's as much justification to suspect that this thread is 'genuine' as there is to suspect it might be 'rogue'.

 

That's all.

 

I can't believe anyone fell for Tommac ;)

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I asked the very same question earlier today and got no response!

 

 

I'm no one important mate - I just happen to be in touch with some "relevant" people.

 

And, one day, when all the stupid politics are done, I will do my utmost to ensure the common decent fan at the very least is informed why his/her club has undergone such a torrid time.

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I'm no one important mate - I just happen to be in touch with some "relevant" people.

 

And, one day, when all the stupid politics are done, I will do my utmost to ensure the common decent fan at the very least is informed why his/her club has undergone such a torrid time.

 

your a good chap

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I'm no one important mate - I just happen to be in touch with some "relevant" people.

 

And, one day, when all the stupid politics are done, I will do my utmost to ensure the common decent fan at the very least is informed why his/her club has undergone such a torrid time.

 

Are you Tommac, or friends with the same people?

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If he was one of Tommac's fraternity he would be one of the more sane members!

 

But that's a long shot in my estimation.

 

Me? I haven't an effin' clue!

 

But then again I may have? :smt082

 

No but yeh but no . . . . .

 

I'm waiting for the first temper tantrum.

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I'm no one important mate - I just happen to be in touch with some "relevant" people.

 

And, one day, when all the stupid politics are done, I will do my utmost to ensure the common decent fan at the very least is informed why his/her club has undergone such a torrid time.

 

You sounded quite genuine at the start of this thread, now your starting to sound like a few posters from the past that made similar kinds of promises.

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I'm no one important mate - I just happen to be in touch with some "relevant" people.

 

And, one day, when all the stupid politics are done, I will do my utmost to ensure the common decent fan at the very least is informed why his/her club has undergone such a torrid time.

 

No offence, and please don't have a tantrum, but that's an unfortunate choice of phrase, almost brings life to Scabby's perceived class war ;)

 

Unfortunately it's also on page 2 of the ITK handbook - "Promise to spill the beans when it's all over"..... To date we've had circa 20 ITK's promising to kiss and tell - from four seperate rumours - and yet nothing has come to light.

 

I won't hold my breath that you'll be any different.

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No offence, and please don't have a tantrum, but that's an unfortunate choice of phrase, almost brings life to Scabby's perceived class war ;)

 

Unfortunately it's also on page 2 of the ITK handbook - "Promise to spill the beans when it's all over"..... To date we've had circa 20 ITK's promising to kiss and tell - from four seperate rumours - and yet nothing has come to light.

 

I won't hold my breath that you'll be any different.

 

No offence taken. I thought with my original post I was at least "spilling a few beans" but the trouble is, in my experience, the messenger usually gets shot on this forum. Or in my case accused of being Marc Jackson:rolleyes: Also at present I think quite a lot are keeping schtum because a few wrong calls could, could I repeat, jeopardise the small (small I said) chance we have of a takeover. I know there are people out there who are desperate to tell what they know but still feel now is not the right time. Rocking the boat usually means people fall out.

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Always a shame when someone posts with good intention and without a track record for bull****ting yet is challenged almost for every word posted.

 

Really misses the point as well. So many have heard similar that it should not really raise an eyebrow. But there is definitely a track record for bull****ting in there, though not from longshot.

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The 'trouble' with internet message boards is that 'rogue' posters and 'genuine' posters often come across in the same way.

 

So it's a 'no win' for anyone who wants to be 100% sure they're dealing with a 'genuine' poster over a 'rogue' poster.

 

I've lost count of the number of times on here over the last 18 months that we've had people saying to lay off supposed 'genuine' posters only for it to transpire they were in fact 'rogue' posters.

 

So, from past experience, there's as much justification to suspect that this thread is 'genuine' as there is to suspect it might be 'rogue'.

 

That's all.

 

And, as if by magic, the 20 posts following my insightful analysis above only serve to prove my point. Nice one Trousers. You're the man of reason and we all hail the footpath of integrity upon which you trudge.

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The 'trouble' with internet message boards is that 'rogue' posters and 'genuine' posters often come across in the same way.

 

So it's a 'no win' for anyone who wants to be 100% sure they're dealing with a 'genuine' poster over a 'rogue' poster.

 

I've lost count of the number of times on here over the last 18 months that we've had people saying to lay off supposed 'genuine' posters only for it to transpire they were in fact 'rogue' posters.

 

So, from past experience, there's as much justification to suspect that this thread is 'genuine' as there is to suspect it might be 'rogue'.

 

That's all

And, as if by magic, the 20 posts following my insightful analysis above only serve to prove my point. Nice one Trousers. You're the man of reason and we all hail the footpath of integrity upon which you trudge.

 

:) You definitely deserve a biscuit. Not sure if it's for starting the fire, putting the fire out, or circumnavigating the globe to get the water.

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No offence taken. I thought with my original post I was at least "spilling a few beans" but the trouble is, in my experience, the messenger usually gets shot on this forum. Or in my case accused of being Marc Jackson:rolleyes: Also at present I think quite a lot are keeping schtum because a few wrong calls could, could I repeat, jeopardise the small (small I said) chance we have of a takeover. I know there are people out there who are desperate to tell what they know but still feel now is not the right time. Rocking the boat usually means people fall out.

 

LOL

 

I like the way you've gone from someone who innocently 'bumped into Mr Fulthorpe' on Saturday, to knowing pretty much every minor detail regarding the takeover of SFC.

 

You're right though, it is usually the messenger that gets shot, especially if the message turns out to be untrue ;)

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The 'trouble' with internet message boards is that 'rogue' posters and 'genuine' posters often come across in the same way.

 

So it's a 'no win' for anyone who wants to be 100% sure they're dealing with a 'genuine' poster over a 'rogue' poster.

 

I've lost count of the number of times on here over the last 18 months that we've had people saying to lay off supposed 'genuine' posters only for it to transpire they were in fact 'rogue' posters.

 

So, from past experience, there's as much justification to suspect that this thread is 'genuine' as there is to suspect it might be 'rogue'.

 

That's all.

 

You are the voice of reason, trousers. I still fondly remember the ticking off I and a few others got for having a little tweak at tommac's offerings. Tommac was 'genuine', '100% sure of it", and we were jeopardising a takeover that was days away from happening. We were bad posters.

 

One thing's for certain about Long Shot though: he's not Marc Jackson, because he hasn't mastered the ability to torture us and the English language at the same time.

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Clearly the club are not in discussion,and this remains with JF to come back to the club once he has something of substance to talk about ie. as you say,proof of funds.

 

Well whatever, the only thing that strikes me is that this guy spends time

chewing the cud with people he knows but little at Ladbrokes in stadium counters. I would have thought a guy with any sort of material substance would contact his "turf accountant" by telephone rather than hang about squalid stadium counters.Times must have changed eh.

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