musesaint Posted 6 July, 2010 Posted 6 July, 2010 Why are we buying all these grey players? I'm worried They all look ill Having not club doctor is clearly a disaster Alpine must have a view on this surely??
sadoldgit Posted 6 July, 2010 Posted 6 July, 2010 Poor old Alps, one less reason to moan. Mind you, if we don't sign 4 more players in the next week there will be another negative thread.
CWD Posted 6 July, 2010 Posted 6 July, 2010 Fantastic news! Hopefully we'll have a new CM in time for the trip to Switzerland
trousers Posted 6 July, 2010 Posted 6 July, 2010 Fantastic news! Hopefully we'll have a new CM in time for the trip to Switzerland Or, perhaps we'll sign a Swiss based player whilst we're out there? Might explain the relatively late pre-season tour announcement. The arrangement details were dependent on the player signing....Pehaps? Who are we playing again? Time for a spot of research...
St Marco Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Great signing and once again Cortese and Pardew stick two fingers up at the mongs on here! Welcome Frazer. Good to have you on board!
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 They did well to keep that one quiet. Good signing The difference with our current management structure than the previous Jokers. NC may appear aloof, but by God he's professional. If we can keep the our secrets secret at that level it cannot help but build a professional and winning team all round. God it's good to support this Club. Optimism!
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Why are we buying all these grey players? LOL! Brilliant LGSC!
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 http://www.charltonlife.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=35463&page=1#Item_0 Some quotes: 'Shock, Bugger bugger bugger, didnt expect that, this'll turn into a Pardew hating thread etc etc' Enjoy! My Favourite: AFKABartram 13 hours ago # 13 Having to sell one of our ONLY remaining assets to a league rival and hated ex-manager. I can't remember the last singular piece of Charlton news that has p1ssed me off so much.
SaintRobbie Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 I'm worried They all look ill Having not club doctor is clearly a disaster Alpine must have a view on this surely?? Nah, he's using rose-tinted spectacles!
ericofarabia Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 A deal "upto £450k" according to Charlton http://www.cafc.co.uk/newsview.ink?nid=36238 Undisclosed according to Saints. Cortese won't be a happy bunny with Charlton! I'd guess £300k upfront and £150k if Saints are promoted. So 450K it is then
ericofarabia Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Excellent news! I do like the way that Saints conduct their business discretely and we no longer seem to have weeks of speculation, followed too often with disappointment. I ought to feel sorry for those clubs whose decent/ top players we extract, I suppose: but, I don't as we have had plenty of being on the wrong end of such deals. Lets hope we keep our sought after players this season to make sure of that "Top Spot." Bad news for The Echo though ..LOL Maybe (probably) Bailey was never a target, but provided the smoke and mirrors for this transfer to appear as if by magic
Red and White Army Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Wow, talk about bolt from the blue. Only a botl fro the blue if you really didn't believe Saints were going to sign a quality right back after releasing the ones we had. Simply put, only an idiot could believe that.
dubai_phil Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 I have to say I feel a bit sorry for them, it must be horrible knowing that next season is going to be so utterly disastrous with literally no good players coming in. Why were you commenting about a Skate fans forum oin this thread? oh
alpine_saint Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Only a botl fro the blue if you really didn't believe Saints were going to sign a quality right back after releasing the ones we had. Simply put, only an idiot could believe that. So you knew we would sign such a good replacement, did you ? Riight...
Professor Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 The Times is saying the fee was £450,000. Anyone seen anything different?
saintjay77 Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Brilliant signing. I guess with him being in the team of the year he should be good enough to step up to NPC level next season. Still continuing to build for the future without neglecting the present. Love it. 1 or 2 more in before we go on tour????? So what position would be the next target?
dubai_phil Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 So you knew we would sign such a good replacement, did you ? Riight... To be fair, I can understand why we "worry" We had 15 or so years of having our best players sold to the highest bidder and the lack of real intention to Improve every season. Years of mediocrity and being grateful for survival takes a toll on the psyche over that length of time. Having new management and owners coming in and saying "We will do this" "We will not leak what we are doing" "We will get promotion" is actually very hard to take. People make huge amounts of money out of training courses on "Change Management" because in general people get set in their ways, and don't believe it is happening. AP & NC told us what they would do. I think it is fair to say that we still haven't learnt to trust them yet and we don't have an ingrained belief. Our reactions are more happy clappy shock, hence the gloating. Will we ever come to terms with the reality of our new status? How long will it really last? Hopefully for the next 5 or more years. The club IS changing, it is upsetting some fans (booking fees) some employees (car parking fees) and it is also upsetting the old mind-set. We're Saints fans we go to football to moan. That's the next problem we'll face as hopefully we'll not have anything left to moan about
Rod Le Shearer Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 IMO we now only need a striker and a decent CM to complete the squad. and maybe a right winger,just to push Puncheon. Great signing this one !
bungle Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 It's times like this I really feel sorry for alpine_saint. Cortese has gone about signings in totally the right way since being with us. Their are very few rumours (those that are rumoured tend to be out of contract players so trying to tout their name about) and the signings are only announced when done. This is good news for us. The club is no longer pandering to the alpines of this world.
Thedelldays Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 It's times like this I really feel sorry for alpine_saint. Cortese has gone about signings in totally the right way since being with us. Their are very few rumours (those that are rumoured tend to be out of contract players so trying to tout their name about) and the signings are only announced when done. This is good news for us. The club is no longer pandering to the alpines of this world. they also do not pander to every email and complaint from this message board either....which is good news
Andyb1 Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 No people just have patience. Something you seem to be severly lacking in.. Or just have nothing better to do than moan.
saintsmike25 Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Exactly. We obviously waited a while and looked around for the BEST possible signing for the budget we have. Rather than just sign ANYONE who can play right back. Things take time and getting the RIGHT players takes time, there's alot of factors involved. We can moan and bleat all we want but what we have to remember is that Pardew KNOWS what we're lacking and what we're needing to go up. There's no doubt in my mind now the right back situation is sorted (Providing harding/mills/dickson could EASILY play there too despite being left footed) he's going to move onto our next area needing some fresh blood and thats upfrong and in the centre of the park. Watch this space in the next two weeks.
Matthew Le God Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 The Times is saying the fee was £450,000. Anyone seen anything different? That is the figure on the Charlton website so it is accurate. http://www.charlton-athletic.co.uk/newsview.ink?nid=36238
up and away Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Exactly. We obviously waited a while and looked around for the BEST possible signing for the budget we have. Rather than just sign ANYONE who can play right back. Things take time and getting the RIGHT players takes time, there's alot of factors involved. We can moan and bleat all we want but what we have to remember is that Pardew KNOWS what we're lacking and what we're needing to go up. There's no doubt in my mind now the right back situation is sorted (Providing harding/mills/dickson could EASILY play there too despite being left footed) he's going to move onto our next area needing some fresh blood and thats upfrong and in the centre of the park. Watch this space in the next two weeks. I would have expected this player to have been on the list before everyone went on holiday. £450k is a lot of money for this player and I really doubt anyone else from this league would have forked out their seasons budget on this one, for those rare few that have a budget. There will be offers in for other players, with us having to wait on the player/club to come to a decision.
stevegrant Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 A deal "upto £450k" according to Charlton http://www.cafc.co.uk/newsview.ink?nid=36238 Undisclosed according to Saints. Cortese won't be a happy bunny with Charlton! I'd guess £300k upfront and £150k if Saints are promoted. Where does it say "up to" on that article? While it's a good signing, credit where it's due, etc, I'm slightly surprised we've paid out £450k for a player who was signed on a free a year ago and only had a year remaining on his contract, particularly considering the hard bargain we drove with Southend for Lee Barnard.
Bucks Saint Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 (edited) "So you knew we would sign such a good replacement, did you ?" I know you did not ask me, but FWIW, yes I did. Edited 7 July, 2010 by Bucks Saint human error
Matthew Le God Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Where does it say "up to" on that article? It did initially. It has been edited since I posted.
JibMcdo Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 So you knew we would sign such a good replacement, did you ? Riight... That nine page thread that you created and has been recently locked, had at least 50 different people trying to tell you we would. We do, and you are still trying to defend your argument.
Badger Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 A good signing,especially as he was the Divisions PFA rb last season. The fact we know very little else about him - whereas Dickson is known for 'Bale like' runs into attack - suggests that Richardson is a 'solid' rather than spectacular rb, more of Rodrigues than a Golac !A good recruit though. Wecome Frazer,and well done to him and Saints for concluding this deal in a quiet dignified manner.* *as opposed to Calderon in megaphoning his 'deal' to the world...
Saint_clark Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 So you knew we would sign such a good replacement, did you ? Riight... I knew we were going to sign someone better than what we had last season.
Red and White Army Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 So you knew we would sign such a good replacement, did you ? As I said, you would have to be a complete idiot to believe we would release our right backs if we would not sign a better replacement.
JibMcdo Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Wecome Frazer,and well done to him and Saints for concluding this deal in a quiet dignified manner.* *as opposed to Calderon in megaphoning his 'deal' to the world... Tis a good point, with that (which wouldn't have gone down well with NC) and Calderon's failed medical, I think it's pretty certain we pulled out rather than him signing for Brighton.
Saint_clark Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 "im not worried about southampton at all. I am however worried about the 20+ other teams in the league and im more than a tad worried we will be looking up at the whole lot of at at some stage in the not to distant future." From the Charlton forum. What a mentalist.
martin_au Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 hmmm... i was expecting maicon. a decent signing though.
stevegrant Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 "im not worried about southampton at all. I am however worried about the 20+ other teams in the league and im more than a tad worried we will be looking up at the whole lot of at at some stage in the not to distant future." From the Charlton forum. What a mentalist. They won't be that bad, they've still got enough players to at least be in the top 10. Gary Doherty's a decent enough signing at centre-back, for example. If Colchester and MK Dons can get comfortably in the top 10, I'm sure Charlton will manage, even with their financial problems.
saintjay77 Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 "im not worried about southampton at all. I am however worried about the 20+ other teams in the league and im more than a tad worried we will be looking up at the whole lot of at at some stage in the not to distant future." From the Charlton forum. What a mentalist. Maybe he means we are not worth worrying about as we will be up at the top and not one of the teams he expects to be battling with? The other 20+ teams however are who they will be competing with and he may be worried that the competion will be firmly in there favour? As much as I expect us to be pushing for the automatics I know seasons dont always play out the way it is hoped so dont want to take it for granted. Pards had a shocker at Charlton for some reason. There are no dead certs that history wont repeat its self so im still keeping my fingers crossed that everything goes right for us this season.
John B Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 "im not worried about southampton at all. I am however worried about the 20+ other teams in the league and im more than a tad worried we will be looking up at the whole lot of at at some stage in the not to distant future." From the Charlton forum. What a mentalist. I think he saying that Charlton are going to be bottom of the League with Saints at the Top He could be Alpine Addick with that negativity
martel Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 I think he saying that Charlton are going to be bottom of the League with Saints at the Top He could be Alpine Addick with that negativity On a lighter note a charleton fan on 606 wrote, "you can't blame him (Richardson) for going to wealthy saints, look where they are going for pre-season, Switzerland, Charlton are going to Welling and A.F.C. Wimbledon, I did LOL at that one.
saint1977 Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Excellent signing. Feel a bit sorry for Charlton fans as we know what this is like all too well. Perhaps some of the worst moaners on this site will put their faith in Pards and Cortese now? The level of hate towards Pardew hasn't cooled much though judging by their forum, definately Charlton's answer to Lowe/Askham! Still, it strikes me that Pards actually wouldn't be that bothered by it or the abuse from Brighton fans who seem to detest him almost as much. Mind you, November's game is a feast of hate for them - Pards, Fonte, Hammond and esp Harding. They will be drinking their Hater-ade by the pint-load before that one.
John B Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 On a lighter note a charleton fan on 606 wrote, "you can't blame him (Richardson) for going to wealthy saints, look where they are going for pre-season, Switzerland, Charlton are going to Welling and A.F.C. Wimbledon, I did LOL at that one. Yes I remember a couple of years ago Farnborough Basingstoke and Winchester how times have changed
Chez Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 They won't be that bad, they've still got enough players to at least be in the top 10. Gary Doherty's a decent enough signing at centre-back, for example. If Colchester and MK Dons can get comfortably in the top 10, I'm sure Charlton will manage, even with their financial problems. very average player IMO. If we can steal Samedo from them then they will have real problems.
Liquidshokk Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 http://www.teamtalk.com/southampton/6250163/Saints-new-boy-relishing-campaign-ahead? ibegyourpardew (Charlton Athletic): What a complete disgrace.
Secret Site Agent Posted 7 July, 2010 Posted 7 July, 2010 Kelvin Davis (Southampton) Kelvin Davis has played a big part in what has been a fine campaign for Saints despite their 10-point deduction for falling into administration. Less than 12 months ago, he turned down the opportunity to join West Ham, instead deciding to sign a three-year contract with the Saints. Frazer Richardson (Charlton) There were a few eyebrows raised when Leeds United released Richardson last summer but what has been the Yorkshire outfit's loss has definitely been Charlton's gain as the 27-year-old has enjoyed an outstanding season at right back for the promotion-chasing Addicks. Patrick Kisnorbo (Leeds United) The serious Achilles tendon injury suffered by Kisnorbo last month cruelly brought to an end what was a stand-out season for the Australian international - and with it his dreams of playing in the World Cup finals - who Simon Grayson describes as a 'warrior-type leader'. Gary Doherty (Norwich) Veteran defender Gary Doherty appeared to be on his way out of Carrow Road at the end of last season but the Republic of Ireland international has thrived this term under the guidance of City boss Paul Lambert as the Canaries prepare for a return to the Championship. Ian Harte (Carlisle) Ian Harte has always had a good goalscoring record but his tally this term represents the best return of his long career. The former Leeds United and Republic of Ireland international is closing in on 20 goals for the campaign which is a remarkable total for a defender. Wes Hoolahan (Norwich) The Norwich midfielder continues to be a revelation, operating in behind the two strikers for Paul Lambert's men. With City in such free-scoring form this term, the 27-year-old could yet break the 20-goal barrier between now and the end of the campaign. Jason Puncheon (Southampton) Attacking midfielder Jason Puncheon enjoyed a successful loan spell at MK Dons earlier this season, but his impressive performances didn't go unnoticed by Southampton and the 23-year-old was signed by the Saints from his parent club Plymouth in January for an undisclosed fee. Robert Snodgrass (Leeds United) Leeds may have had their problems since the turn of the year, but arguably their most consistent performer this season has been exciting young winger Snodgrass. The 22-year-old Scot has already reached double figures for the campaign and his silky skills on the flank have led to the former Livingston player being linked with a number of Premier League clubs. Nicky Bailey (Charlton) Nicky Bailey continues to pull the strings in midfield for promotion-chasing Charlton in what has been an outstanding season for the 25-year-old. The former Southend player was linked with a string of teams in January, but Addicks boss Phil Parkinson was adamant that his man was going nowhere. "He is our captain and it would be great if he led us back to the Championship." Rickie Lambert (Southampton) Rickie Lambert has been a revelation for Saints since joining from Bristol Rovers last summer and he has already broken the 30-goal barrier. Manager Alan Pardew has been delighted with Lambert's all-round contribution, not just his goals, and rates him as 'the best player in the division in terms of his position'. Grant Holt (Norwich) City skipper Holt has also reached the 30-goal mark in what has been a brilliant second half of the campaign for the high-flying Canaries. And now Holt has his sights set on Terry All****'s club record of 37 in a season. "First and foremost, the most important thing is to get promoted and win the league, but I want to beat it," he said. I'm hoping that this is Alan's Shopping list: 'Hmmm, Lets see whats next? Ian Harte First, then Over to Snodgrass, Pick up Hoolahan, and then Puncheon....Oh yes, he's already one of ours. Fnar, Fnar.'
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