benjii Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 "gutter business ethics" You've been reading too many tabloids Dune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 Nothing to do with quality. Armani or Boss t-shirts are not (significantly) better quality that Primark, in fact you would probably find they were produced in the same sweat shops in Vietnam, just putting a stupid designer label on them means some people think they are better quality. More fool them. I dont know anyone that has bought anything in Primark which has lasted 8 years, which i can say about a Stone Island jumper and Boss shirt i have. Anyway, the point is people will pay more for a quality product, be that percieved quality or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 I am reasonably happy with prices now, for the premier league i would probably pay up to just about £550 for my season ticket in the northam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 VFTT, Dune, knock it off. I'm getting bored of you two sniping at each other on any thread going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StVince1966 Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 stone island clothing is a way of life! those prision sentances were a disgrace! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 6 July, 2010 "gutter business ethics" You've been reading too many tabloids Dune. Not at all. Putting add-ons onto the price is a sneaky practice that I wouldn't have expected from a business owned by Markus Liebherr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 I still get a season ticket for me and my eldest which is good value for money because of his age. Once he turns 16 though it will be a lot more expensive. We normally miss 7 or 8 games a season because of the distance/time for evening games but it still makes it worth it even if the sums may not strictly add up. The problem is without a season ticket we'd probably end up only going to half the games as you have to make the effort of buying. The match day ticket price won't really make a difference to me, but rather the cost of having to pay for 2 adults rather than a father and son pair. Having said that my son would probably kill me if I didn't renew one season so will probably carry on buying regardless. And once he's 17 then he can drive me and I can have a few beers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 I'll be buying a season ticket for as long as I can afford it - after that it will be on a game by game basis. Saturdays to me are not just about the match - its far more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 Not at all. Putting add-ons onto the price is a sneaky practice that I wouldn't have expected from a business owned by Markus Liebherr. Not really, it would be sneaky if they'd put the price up without saying there was a £3 booking fee. By telling us they are not being sneaky at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 Not really, it would be sneaky if they'd put the price up without saying there was a £3 booking fee. By telling us they are not being sneaky at all. Everyone is missing the point that you can buy a ticket for the next game at the box office and not pay the £3 booking fee, this is only applicable for on-line and phone bookings. Just work out what games you want to go too and buy the next ticket when you arrive at the current game, five minutes queueing saves £3.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 Everyone is missing the point that you can buy a ticket for the next game at the box office and not pay the £3 booking fee, this is only applicable for on-line and phone bookings. Just work out what games you want to go too and buy the next ticket when you arrive at the current game, five minutes queueing saves £3.00 OH no i'm not i agree and i will do exactly that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 There's a small part of me that doesn't want Saints to return to the Premier League. I can't justify going to every game either financially or in taking time away from other things. Where we are now, or the Championship, suits me fine. It's not too expensive and there are nearly always tickets available. This means I go to more home games than I miss but I go when I choose to. When we were in the Premier League it was not always possible to get a ticket (especially against the 'big' teams) and the cost was much higher - and by the looks of things will be lots more should we get back there in 2 or 3 years time. So I hope that when we do get promoted, some sort of membership scheme can be reintroduced so that at least I stand some chance of being able to see us play the top sides. Of course the best thing about watching Saints at this level is that we go into every game thinking we'll probably win - something I've never known before in forty-odd years of supporting Saints. Long may that continue as we march up the leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 It is clear from our high ticket prices and the RyanAir type add ons (i.e the £3 Cortese Tax on online/phone purchases) that Saints aim to be charging top whack for tickets going forward. We are clearly divided as to whether this is exploitation and gutter business ethics or the price we must pay for success. Inevitably opinions are complicated further due to location, how you watch saints (tickets v season tickets), frequency of attendance etc. Far be it from me to suggest that the opinions of those who don't go very often are less than fans who do spend a lot of money supporting the club, but it must be said that it's naturally more easy for the "match thread" type fans to stomach price hikes. So the question is how much would you be prepared to pay in financial terms to watch Saints? Watching any game involves around 2 weeks of planning, getting people to schedule meetings with me for a week with a home game. That is always my mantra when I look to come back. The JPT final cost me around 700 pounds for the flight ticket, 50 quid for the hotel and 30 quid for the train fares before match day tickets beer and food. Leicester away (1-4, just like watching Brazil cost me around 300 quid. Cardiff cost me around 800 quid) Changing Satellite systems so I can watch L1 games next year cost me 150 quid for the 4 0r 5 times we'll be on telly The cost of a ticket is nothing. The AVAILABILTY of a ticket for me is everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 Not at all. Putting add-ons onto the price is a sneaky practice that I wouldn't have expected from a business owned by Markus Liebherr. A booking fee. It is standard practice across a wide-range of industries. It is hardly sneaky or disreputable. Ticketmaster charges £4.50 per ticket FFS (I think). As to your main point, when you can stop the infantile rhetoric for a second, it is something I have pointed out before. It's a funny situation because you want the team to be succesful but that success necessarily comes with a price unless you are a team like Fulham in the shadow of others and have no choice but to be competitive on price. Saints are in the enviable/bad (depending on your viewpoint) position of being able to charge a fairly premium price when we're back in the Prem as there is no viable alternative for Premier League football for miles around. That's not sneaky or bad - it's just a fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 There's a small part of me that doesn't want Saints to return to the Premier League. I can't justify going to every game either financially or in taking time away from other things. Where we are now, or the Championship, suits me fine. It's not too expensive and there are nearly always tickets available. This means I go to more home games than I miss but I go when I choose to. When we were in the Premier League it was not always possible to get a ticket (especially against the 'big' teams) and the cost was much higher - and by the looks of things will be lots more should we get back there in 2 or 3 years time. So I hope that when we do get promoted, some sort of membership scheme can be reintroduced so that at least I stand some chance of being able to see us play the top sides. Of course the best thing about watching Saints at this level is that we go into every game thinking we'll probably win - something I've never known before in forty-odd years of supporting Saints. Long may that continue as we march up the leagues. Agree with some of what you say.A return to the PL would mean very expensive tix, and games at daft times. However, i was a member all the time we were in the PL at SMS and I never missed a game that I wanted to go to, and that includes a lot of the big games. I do recall that the fastest game to sell out , as far as I know, was a game against Chelsea in the last couple of seasons, which sold out by lunchtime on the monday it went on sale. Getting as ticket if you were on the ball was OK, it was affording them that was the problem !! anyway, a bit to do yet before we have to deal with all that !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 July, 2010 Share Posted 6 July, 2010 Seeing as the TV money in the Prem is so large I thought perhaps fans might get in for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2010 Watching any game involves around 2 weeks of planning, getting people to schedule meetings with me for a week with a home game. That is always my mantra when I look to come back. The JPT final cost me around 700 pounds for the flight ticket, 50 quid for the hotel and 30 quid for the train fares before match day tickets beer and food. Leicester away (1-4, just like watching Brazil cost me around 300 quid. Cardiff cost me around 800 quid) Changing Satellite systems so I can watch L1 games next year cost me 150 quid for the 4 0r 5 times we'll be on telly The cost of a ticket is nothing. The AVAILABILTY of a ticket for me is everything To be honest I despise the £3 Cortese Tax mainly out of principle. I used to be proud of Saints for being an honourable business with good ethics, now we're in the gutter with RyanAir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 July, 2010 Share Posted 7 July, 2010 give it a rest dune....we had booking fees last season...and the season before that and the season before that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2010 give it a rest dune....we had booking fees last season...and the season before that and the season before that.. No we didn't. You payed a booking fee because you payed with a credit card because you weren't very bright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 July, 2010 Share Posted 7 July, 2010 No we didn't. You payed a booking fee because you payed with a credit card because you weren't very bright. ahhhhhhh.... so there was a booking fee...Ironic... maybe, the smart one might pick up their tickets from the ground this season....are you THAT smart dune..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2010 ahhhhhhh.... so there was a booking fee...Ironic... maybe, the smart one might pick up their tickets from the ground this season....are you THAT smart dune..? You're the last person to talk about acting smartly when it comes to finances. You didn't realise that you could pay with a debit card and not get charged a booking fee. Then when it was explained to you you didn't have the balls to be a man and admit you were in the dark. Instead you came out with some clap trap about earning reward points. I put it to you that no credit card would offer rewards that make paying a £1.50 surcharge on a circa £30 purchase financially viable and therefore I put it to you that you were talking out of your arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 July, 2010 Share Posted 7 July, 2010 You're the last person to talk about acting smartly when it comes to finances. You didn't realise that you could pay with a debit card and not get charged a booking fee. Then when it was explained to you you didn't have the balls to be a man and admit you were in the dark. Instead you came out with some clap trap about earning reward points. I put it to you that no credit card would offer rewards that make paying a £1.50 surcharge on a circa £30 purchase financially viable and therefore I put it to you that you were talking out of your arse. bit rich dune.......bit rich maybe you could "act smartly" and avoid the charge...like you tell me...act smartly dune...not hard is it...????? as for my finances dune..luckily (and largely thanks to you) I am quite well off..so I have no issue paying by credit card...paying by any means dune... I expect it is hard to make ends meet whilst living in your bedsit in shirley warren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 July, 2010 Share Posted 7 July, 2010 are you going to use your noodle and cunning wit and avoid the charge this season Dune....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 July, 2010 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2010 bit rich dune.......bit rich maybe you could "act smartly" and avoid the charge...like you tell me...act smartly dune...not hard is it...????? I always endeavour to get the best deals, but once again you fail to admit you were telling porkie pies in respect of a) knowing there was no surchagre for debit card transactions and b) that you earnt sufficient reward points on your credit card to make using this medium more financially astute than paying with a debit card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 July, 2010 Share Posted 7 July, 2010 I always endeavour to get the best deals, but once again you fail to admit you were telling porkie pies in respect of a) knowing there was no surchagre for debit card transactions and b) that you earnt sufficient reward points on your credit card to make using this medium more financially astute than paying with a debit card. of course I knew there was a charge when using credit card dune...when you phoned up for tickets last season...they advised you the options in paying and the charges that went with them....like I said..when (as stu does) take in the total cost of seeing saints..paying an extra £3 for me, travelling a 350 mile round trip, means f-all.......and that I can quite easily afford it.. well done dune...glad to see you will do what ever you can to avoid paying the charge....not hard is it...now will you give it a rest..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 7 July, 2010 Share Posted 7 July, 2010 as for my finances dune..luckily (and largely thanks to you) I am quite well off I expect it is hard to make ends meet whilst living in your bedsit in shirley warren Are you his pimp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyb1 Posted 7 July, 2010 Share Posted 7 July, 2010 its a tough one really. I mean it cost abuot 17 quid to go and watch conference football last season ast Oxford Utd when I went. That makes 25 to see saints seem like a steel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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