Suites Re-named

[St BATman]

If someone uses this line one more time! FFS. I will say it again. JUST BECAUSE MARKUS BOUGHT US, DOES NOT MEAN THAT WE CANNOT QUESTION AND CRITICISE DECISIONS WHICH WE BELIEVE TO NOT BE GREAT OF WHICH THERE HAVE BEEN MANY IN THE PAST FEW MONTHS. Got it? Good.

 

True.

But if like me you don't come on here all the time and then when you do all you see are threads bashing Cortese for trying to run the club the way he sees as best it gets a bit much. At the end of last season every Saints fan I know was on the crest of a wave. I'm pretty sure all of them still are, yet reading this forum you would think the devil incarnate was running our club and trying to turn it into a business that hates it's own customers. It's madness!!!

He (NC) is learning his trade still, we have PLENTY to be positive about, why focus on the negatives (most of which are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things...)

[Matthew Le God]

I suppose that ultimately if it continues then attendances will be down. I doubt very much that we will see an increase in attendance this season and that will be a mistake on NC's part IMO. Cortese will eventually be forced into being more PR friendly if attendances are down and the reasons for this are highlighted in the media. I hope this is the case anyway because a short term small drop in attendance for a long term gain is preferable for me. I hope Cortese learns from the experience. No doubt I will be laughed at or dismissed for that opinion but oh well.

 

I don't see why attendances will go down. If anything they should be higher this season. Yes, the club will lose some people because of the season tickets not being available in installments. However more people should be be attracted back to St Mary's if the side looks like it will get promotion. With attendances last season many saw the club with little chance of success. Saints have a hard core of fans, the rest turn up if the club is successful or has prospects of success. Just like with every other club.

 

I predict those attracted back to watch a potentially league winning season will more than make up for those lost for other reasons.

[hypochondriac]

True.

But if like me you don't come on here all the time and then when you do all you see are threads bashing Cortese for trying to run the club the way he sees as best it gets a bit much. At the end of last season every Saints fan I know was on the crest of a wave. I'm pretty sure all of them still are, yet reading this forum you would think the devil incarnate was running our club and trying to turn it into a business that hates it's own customers. It's madness!!!

He (NC) is learning his trade still, we have PLENTY to be positive about, why focus on the negatives (most of which are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things...)

 

I think people are frustrated because the club have failed to take advantage. Things are good at SFC but frustratingly they could be so much better than they have been over the last few months. Whilst financially and on the pitch we have moved forward a lot, PR wise and communication wise we have taken big steps backwards. It's a real shame and if it continues it will no doubt begin to turn off fans to SFC. It's not something I want to see.

[miserableoldgit]

True.

But if like me you don't come on here all the time and then when you do all you see are threads bashing Cortese for trying to run the club the way he sees as best it gets a bit much. At the end of last season every Saints fan I know was on the crest of a wave. I'm pretty sure all of them still are, yet reading this forum you would think the devil incarnate was running our club and trying to turn it into a business that hates it's own customers. It's madness!!!

He (NC) is learning his trade still, we have PLENTY to be positive about, why focus on the negatives (most of which are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things...)

+1. You should come on here more often, talking sense like that!

[hypochondriac]

I don't see why attendances will go down. If anything they should be higher this season. Yes, the club will lose some people because of the season tickets not being available in installments. However more people should be be attracted back to St Mary's if the side looks like it will get promotion. With attendances last season many saw the club with little chance of success. Saints have a hard core of fans, the rest turn up if the club is successful or has prospects of success. Just like with every other club.

 

I predict those attracted back to watch a potentially league winning season will more than make up for those lost for other reasons.

 

We shall see, but even if this is the case, it's still very disappointing to see the fans being treated in this way and the total lack of communication. It doesn't make for a happy fan base.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

why focus on the negatives (most of which are pretty minor in the grand scheme of things...)

 

This is the bit that I have tried and tried and tried to get people to realise / appreciate...

 

... to some people these might seem like minor things.

 

It's not a minor point to someone who now can't buy a season ticket because of the removal of the installment plan.

 

It's not a minor thing to someone who has had their car parking costs doubled.

 

It's not a minor thing that they delayed announcing the pre-season tour to someone who was hoping to go.

 

Etc etc etc

 

People on this forum seem to have absolutely empathy for other Southampton fans, being completely unable to look at it from another supporters perspective.

[wild-saint]

Personally I feel that there are few people sitting,looking and waiting for things that can be used as a dig at the club. In the grand scale of things IMO they are all minor insignificant points and not worth getting worked up about. There are certainly many things in this wrold that are worthy of challenging but installment plans, names of suites and whether we announce a pre season friendly in good time are not. All IMO of course. I find the pettiness of some of the whinges far more frustrating than the events themselves.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Personally I feel that there are few people sitting,looking and waiting for things that can be used as a dig at the club. In the grand scale of things IMO they are all minor insignificant points and not worth getting worked up about. There are certainly many things in this wrold that are worthy of challenging but installment plans, names of suites and whether we announce a pre season friendly in good time are not. All IMO of course. I find the pettiness of some of the whinges far more frustrating than the events themselves.

 

I refer back to my point about the vast majority of our fans being completely unable to feel any empathy.

 

To some people they are serious points, just because you pay up front and don't want to go on the pre-season tour, doesn't mean they are not important issues ( and rightly so ) to other people.

 

 

Typical of our support though to be fair... and certainly more so here than other clubs.

[shirleysfc]

Have I missed something where does it say that NC has changed the names?

 

Don't get me wrong I don't agree with everything that happens at the club, but claiming that changes in the name to hospitality packages is part of NC's plan to erase the clubs history is pushing it... surely?

[saint_mears]

Personally I feel that there are few people sitting,looking and waiting for things that can be used as a dig at the club. In the grand scale of things IMO they are all minor insignificant points and not worth getting worked up about. There are certainly many things in this wrold that are worthy of challenging but installment plans, names of suites and whether we announce a pre season friendly in good time are not. All IMO of course. I find the pettiness of some of the whinges far more frustrating than the events themselves.

 

What about the distinct lack of marketing regarding season tickets and their very late sale ?

[Colinjb]

I refer back to my point about the vast majority of our fans being completely unable to feel any empathy.

 

To some people they are serious points, just because you pay up front and don't want to go on the pre-season tour, doesn't mean they are not important issues ( and rightly so ) to other people.

 

 

Typical of our support though to be fair... and certainly more so here than other clubs.

 

I respect your right to your point, but an extremely loud minority is still just a minority. I understand that this has effected a few people but to the vast majority of Saints fans (and every single one of my friends back dahn sarf who attend games with me.. thats why I believe that it is the majority, the only discontent I see is on here..) things are just fine!

 

All that seems to be talked about on here right now is negativity. Purely on the basis of tone and attitude it wouldn't be unreasonable to believe we were still in administration. God I can't wait for the season to start and for there to be football to discuss again.

[aintforever]

He (NC) is learning his trade still

 

Exactly, which is why he would welcome criticism and feedback on decisions he has made. He won't get that if no one opens their mouth through fear of upsetting him.

[Smirking_Saint]

Well, changing the names of the suites was a bit sh*te really, i don't see what they will gain from that. For all the good i think NC is putting into the club i will be very saddened if it is to try to errode and forget the clubs history.

[Block 5]

I couldn't give a monkey's.

 

Executive clubs and suites are for t0ssers and are nothing to do with football.

 

Fill the executive clubs with corporate suits and set fire to them for all I care.

[Smirking_Saint]

Have I missed something where does it say that NC has changed the names?

 

Don't get me wrong I don't agree with everything that happens at the club, but claiming that changes in the name to hospitality packages is part of NC's plan to erase the clubs history is pushing it... surely?

 

TBF i am not falling into the conspiracy theorists category about the ST issues etc. And also think that the late release of the pre season tour was due to the fact that they only signed the games until late. However it is hard to argue the fact that NC would have been unaware of this change, even if he didn't do it himself.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

I respect your right to your point, but an extremely loud minority is still just a minority. I understand that this has effected a few people but to the vast majority of Saints fans (and every single one of my friends back dahn sarf who attend games with me.. thats why I believe that it is the majority, the only discontent I see is on here..) things are just fine!

 

All that seems to be talked about on here right now is negativity. Purely on the basis of tone and attitude it wouldn't be unreasonable to believe we were still in administration. God I can't wait for the season to start and for there to be football to discuss again.

 

Nobody can judge how many people were affected by the installment plan, pretty much all of my mates were expecting to pay on installments, I suppose humans are sheep, a couple paid on installments and the rest followed... or maybe the scheme was more popular than speculated on here ( the club have not mentioned how many people used it, so it is just speculation )

 

And as I said, from my point of view, the general pub chat is different, people seem to think Cortese is bang out of order regarding the season tickets, and that some strange things are going on... some people care about them and some people don't give a toss.

 

With regards to the negativity, well to be honest all we have had pre-season on the positive is a new kit and one signing, on the negative side, almost on a daily basis there is a lack of communication / bad pr / price rise / removal of benefit etc etc

 

Don't get me wrong, when the good news starts flowing, the negative people (maybe even me) will be silenced.

 

Towards the end of last season the club was in a great position to sell 20,000 season tickets with the right pricing and marketing, all my friends were going to renew, and many many more where looking at jumping on the bandwagon... the lack of announcement and their motivation has gone... not a single person out of the 15 or so ( off the top of my head ) who said they were going to buy one this year have, and around half who were going to renew... haven't.

 

We won't know a thing until the end of the season, when we will be able to realistically look back and see what has happened.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Exactly, which is why he would welcome criticism and feedback on decisions he has made. He won't get that if no one opens their mouth through fear of upsetting him.

 

He doesn't welcome it though.

 

All you get is either silence or " We are not debating this issue "

 

I would LOVE it if he steps up to the plate and has a Solent Fans Forum, which would be a complete suicide mission on his part, I have no doubt he knows this too and it will be " An interview with Nicola " instead.

[doggface]

It seems again you are going to ignore that you were proven wrong again, so I will just answer the question in hand.

 

Cortese, through PR and Propaganda has convinced a large element of our support that it really is his way or the highway, many people have accepted this and effectively gagged themselves from having a public opinion on it. Take the same conversation away from this forum and into a pub and the reaction is completely different. With most people in agreement that the club have been making some very bad decisions.

 

People seem scared to challenge Cortese, Mr C has been very deliberate in my opinion in how he comes across, using 'buzz phrases' like " Southampton is my baby " and " nobody at this club makes the decisions but me " - this leads people to think that there is no alternative to Cortese, he also repeats that it was him that introduced Liebherr and Marcus wouldn't have taken the project on if it wasn't for him. Which makes people believe that if Cortese goes, then so will Liebherr.

 

In my opinion that's a load of old tosh, firstly Cortese is an employee and can be replaced, secondly Liebherr has invested millions and won't just p!ss it down the drain and walk away because Cortese does, thirdly even if Liebherr does want to walk away, he's still got to sell the club onto someone else. He might be a billionaire but he isn't / won't be spending Man City money... so he is also replaceable ( although I like the bloke to be fair )

 

So do I want Cortese to leave? Would rather not, he is building a good core to the management structure, I do however he needs to hire a good PR or let Luker and Jordon Sibley etc do their jobs, because in that customer facing department he is f*cking clueless.

 

If he is going to continue in the way he is now, with the scattergun 'like it or lump it ' attitude, then yes... he can go and take up his job at Milan ( lol )

 

Good post Stu.

[doggface]

It is not 100% clear to me if the suites have been renamed. If they have I would expect it to be done like this on the sly as removing club legends names and advertising it would be dangerous ground.

 

Fwiw I could not give a **** if they re-brand the packages but keep the suite names, packages can be changed and rebranded at any time imo.

 

I will however leave it on this. I know for a fact that Cortese was threatening to remove MLT name from his suite. That is one of many bridges that have been burned regrettably.

 

Time will tell if NC is deemed to be a success, I really hope he will be. By many peoles accounts he is an arsehole, but as long as he is a successful arsehole I guess I can deal with it.

[wild-saint]

What about the distinct lack of marketing regarding season tickets and their very late sale ?

 

Why do they need to market them? Surely the customer base is compeltely aware of the product and what it is likely to cost. The only real issue is the 1300 or so people that have been inconvenienced by the lack of an installment plan. Of those 1300 (or so) most have personal finance options open to them leaving a small minority that cant get credit. Maybe those people shouldnt be incouraged to get into more debt further.

 

Im not sure i agree with very late bearing in mind that they were realeased what nearly 8 weeks ahead of the start of the season?

 

Its all ifs and buts and frankly there are bigger things to worry about in this world.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Its all ifs and buts and frankly there are bigger things to worry about in this world.

 

Ah, some sense. Good post.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Ah, some sense. Good post.

 

Above and Wild-saints post are examples of more lack of empathy.

 

Just because some of the decisions don't affect you, it doesn't mean they don't affect other people.

[Micky]

Another great great thread. The Suite names have been changed (we think), nobody consulted us (again), somebody needs to get hanged for this decission.

 

Just had a phone call from SMS, NC wants to go for a dump, anybody know who, on here, is on 'dump sanctioning' duty today?

[hypochondriac]

Another great great thread. The Suite names have been changed (we think), nobody consulted us (again), somebody needs to get hanged for this decission.

 

Just had a phone call from SMS, NC wants to go for a dump, anybody know who, on here, is on 'dump sanctioning' duty today?

 

See now why grossly exaggerate? It just makes you look ridiculous and unable to have a serious discussion.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Above and Wild-saints post are examples of more lack of empathy.

 

Just because some of the decisions don't affect you, it doesn't mean they don't affect other people.

 

If you could explain how changing the names of some rooms at SMS affects you personally, then I might reconsider. Until then my view is not lack of empathy - it's more aligned to pity and exasperation at the overload of negativity you are inflicting on the forum TBF.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

If you could explain how changing the names of some rooms at SMS affects you personally, then I might reconsider. Until then my view is not lack of empathy - it's more aligned to pity and exasperation at the overload of negativity you are inflicting on the forum TBF.

 

You spoke of Wild-Saint talking sense when he was suggesting that removal of installment plans and late notice of season tickets etc were not important.

 

That shows lack of empathy... because to some people it is important.

[Micky]

See now why grossly exaggerate? It just makes you look ridiculous and unable to have a serious discussion.

 

The problem is hypo - every single decision is now being microanalysed with the end result that it is NC's fault - it's getting more than a little tedious. I know it's the close season, but honestly, do we really need endless threads all aimed at discrediting the same person?

 

Yeah - I know - if I don't agree (or like it), don't bother commenting, but whilst my comment may have seemed ridiculous to you, it is a true representation of how I feel the general tone of this board is going of late. Apologies if you don't find this serious discussion.

Edited 2 July, 2010 by Micky

[Norm]

Rather reminds of of a chairman that removed photos off walls and replaced them with paintings bought from his brother.

[Gorgiesaint]

I couldn't give a monkey's.

 

Executive clubs and suites are for t0ssers and are nothing to do with football.

 

Fill the executive clubs with corporate suits and set fire to them for all I care.

 

I wouldn't be seen dead in an executive suite but I appreciate them for what they are. They are money spinners for the club - they contribute more per fan than any resident of the Northam or any other stand for that matter. That helps put Rickie on the pitch. For that reason I wouldn't set fire to them... well that & they're attached to the rest of the stand!!!

[Norm]

Originally Posted by Block 5 I couldn't give a monkey's.

 

Executive clubs and suites are for t0ssers and are nothing to do with football.

 

Fill the executive clubs with corporate suits and set fire to them for all I care.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh dear, what a stupid post.

[The Kraken]

I wouldn't be seen dead in an executive suite but I appreciate them for what they are. They are money spinners for the club - they contribute more per fan than any resident of the Northam or any other stand for that matter. That helps put Rickie on the pitch. For that reason I wouldn't set fire to them... well that & they're attached to the rest of the stand!!!

 

Why on earth would you "not be seen dead in one"? You don't buy into the myth that they're entirely populated by the prawn sandwich brigade who all know nothing about football, do you? Granted there are a good number of corporate goons who are there for the jolly and not the game. But there are also plenty of proper fans who have either saved up for a special day or are treating themselves to the more glamourous side of the game for a change.

 

I hark back to my day in the Ambassadors Suite, which was as good as corporate entertainment goes. Champagne reception, fantastic food, pre-match speeches by Lawrie Mac and his guests who included Jim Steele, Nick Holmes and Glenn C ockerill, plus all the booze you can drink for free all day long. Then after the game a visit from the players who had a chat about the game and various other insights into the team. Oh, and a visit and speech from the manager. And I didn't even have to pay for my ticket.

 

Yep, wouldn't be seen dead in there.

[Saint Fan CaM]

You spoke of Wild-Saint talking sense when he was suggesting that removal of installment plans and late notice of season tickets etc were not important.

 

That shows lack of empathy... because to some people it is important.

 

Sorry Stu - don't agree. A lack of empathy would require me to understand and agree that there is a problem. I don't, so there is no lack of empathy - I simply do not see what the problem is to me or any other supporter. Unless it's someone trying to score personal points or has some fanatical reason for wanting the forum to be a depressing and negative place.

[Norm]

Why on earth would you "not be seen dead in one"? You don't buy into the myth that they're entirely populated by the prawn sandwich brigade who all know nothing about football, do you? Granted there are a good number of corporate goons who are there for the jolly and not the game. But there are also plenty of proper fans who have either saved up for a special day or are treating themselves to the more glamourous side of the game for a change.

 

I hark back to my day in the Ambassadors Suite, which was as good as corporate entertainment goes. Champagne reception, fantastic food, pre-match speeches by Lawrie Mac and his guests who included Jim Steele, Nick Holmes and Glenn C ockerill, plus all the booze you can drink for free all day long. Then after the game a visit from the players who had a chat about the game and various other insights into the team. Oh, and a visit and speech from the manager. And I didn't even have to pay for my ticket.

 

Yep, wouldn't be seen dead in there.

 

 

I'm with Dav on this one. I enjoyed several special occasions in the Suites. If I could afford it next season, I would be up there in the blink of an eye!

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Why on earth would you "not be seen dead in one"? You don't buy into the myth that they're entirely populated by the prawn sandwich brigade who all know nothing about football, do you? Granted there are a good number of corporate goons who are there for the jolly and not the game. But there are also plenty of proper fans who have either saved up for a special day or are treating themselves to the more glamourous side of the game for a change.

 

I hark back to my day in the Ambassadors Suite, which was as good as corporate entertainment goes. Champagne reception, fantastic food, pre-match speeches by Lawrie Mac and his guests who included Jim Steele, Nick Holmes and Glenn C ockerill, plus all the booze you can drink for free all day long. Then after the game a visit from the players who had a chat about the game and various other insights into the team. Oh, and a visit and speech from the manager. And I didn't even have to pay for my ticket.

 

Yep, wouldn't be seen dead in there.

 

Exactly, they are a cracking day, prefer the MLT Suite to the boxes and Channon Suite, bit more atmosphere, opposite the boardroom and always have a few old heads pop their head in for an interview, free booze, pint (or 2 ) waiting on your table when you arrive back.

 

I think maybe the people that wouldn't be seen dead in there might just be the people who wouldn't get invited in there. I wouldn't want to do it all the time, but half a dozen times a year is spot on.

[Gorgiesaint]

Why on earth would you "not be seen dead in one"? You don't buy into the myth that they're entirely populated by the prawn sandwich brigade who all know nothing about football, do you? Granted there are a good number of corporate goons who are there for the jolly and not the game. But there are also plenty of proper fans who have either saved up for a special day or are treating themselves to the more glamourous side of the game for a change.

 

I hark back to my day in the Ambassadors Suite, which was as good as corporate entertainment goes. Champagne reception, fantastic food, pre-match speeches by Lawrie Mac and his guests who included Jim Steele, Nick Holmes and Glenn C ockerill, plus all the booze you can drink for free all day long. Then after the game a visit from the players who had a chat about the game and various other insights into the team. Oh, and a visit and speech from the manager. And I didn't even have to pay for my ticket.

 

Yep, wouldn't be seen dead in there.

 

Alright Dav calm down!!! Maybe its a bad choice of phrase

 

I'll choose to watch my football from where I want thanks, no you're right that I wouldn't turn down a free ticket either - but I wouldn't choose to pay. Has this site really dropped so far that where you choose to watch your football from is open to criticism from everyone else. Unbelieveable.

Edited 2 July, 2010 by Gorgiesaint

[Saint_clark]

Maybe someone should ring up and ask about the prices in the Bobby Stokes, Mick Channon, Matt Le Tissier and Terry Paine suites and see if they get an answer.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Sorry Stu - don't agree. A lack of empathy would require me to understand and agree that there is a problem. I don't, so there is no lack of empathy - I simply do not see what the problem is to me or any other supporter. Unless it's someone trying to score personal points or has some fanatical reason for wanting the forum to be a depressing and negative place.

 

People, whether it be one person or 10,000 have not been able to renew this year because of the late notice of season tickets and removal of installment plan? True or False?

 

There are people, whether it be one person or 10,000 that wanted to go on the pre-season tour. True or false?

 

And by having a lack of empathy, you are unable to put yourself in other peoples shoes... which is what you are failing to do. It is a FACT that people relied on the installment plan and budgeted their funds accordingly, and through the withdrawal of the scheme at late notice, cannot now get a season ticket. True or false?

 

So do you now agree that there is indeed people out there that might find some of the decisions slightly more important than you?

[NickG]

Nobody can judge how many people were affected by the installment plan, pretty much all of my mates were expecting to pay on installments, I suppose humans are sheep, a couple paid on installments and the rest followed... or maybe the scheme was more popular than speculated on here ( the club have not mentioned how many people used it, so it is just speculation )

 

And as I said, from my point of view, the general pub chat is different, people seem to think Cortese is bang out of order regarding the season tickets, and that some strange things are going on... some people care about them and some people don't give a toss.

 

With regards to the negativity, well to be honest all we have had pre-season on the positive is a new kit and one signing, on the negative side, almost on a daily basis there is a lack of communication / bad pr / price rise / removal of benefit etc etc

 

Don't get me wrong, when the good news starts flowing, the negative people (maybe even me) will be silenced.

 

Towards the end of last season the club was in a great position to sell 20,000 season tickets with the right pricing and marketing, all my friends were going to renew, and many many more where looking at jumping on the bandwagon... the lack of announcement and their motivation has gone... not a single person out of the 15 or so ( off the top of my head ) who said they were going to buy one this year have, and around half who were going to renew... haven't.

 

We won't know a thing until the end of the season, when we will be able to realistically look back and see what has happened.

 

Its not black and white - NC isn't going to fall into saint or sinner but somewhere in the middle.

Most agree that the season tickets could have been pushed more and would have liked the installment plan to carry on - but just because, for some reason NC decided otherwise it doesn't suddenly make him evil and trying to upset fans - just a business leader who has made a decision, I am sure well intended, that we think was wrong.

 

I disagree about the pub chat bit - said before supporters I have spoken to, who don't come on here are talking about a great season just gone and excitement for the next.

 

Not sure about this lack of communication - there is not much going on. From the evidence on this forum the overseas games were announced as soon as they were confirmed.

 

It does seem that some, I am not sure why, are being proactive in seeking reasons to moan about NC.

 

If you either disagree with part, or feel it is not the big issue, suddenly you are up his arse???

Edited 2 July, 2010 by NickG

[corsacar saint]

I do not know why all you NC knockers do not just go and find another club to support.

[The Kraken]

I do not know why all you NC knockers do not just go and find another club to support.

 

Absolutely right; that's what normally happens when the chairman makes a few contentious decisions. I look back fondly when Rupert Lowe made his Start Trek analogies and I defected to watching Forest Green Rovers for 2 seasons in protest. Those were the days.

[Block 5]

Oh dear, what a stupid post.

 

 

Spot the suit.

Bet you don't get to many away games!

[Saint Fan CaM]

People, whether it be one person or 10,000 have not been able to renew this year because of the late notice of season tickets and removal of installment plan? True or False?

 

There are people, whether it be one person or 10,000 that wanted to go on the pre-season tour. True or false?

 

And by having a lack of empathy, you are unable to put yourself in other peoples shoes... which is what you are failing to do. It is a FACT that people relied on the installment plan and budgeted their funds accordingly, and through the withdrawal of the scheme at late notice, cannot now get a season ticket. True or false?

 

So do you now agree that there is indeed people out there that might find some of the decisions slightly more important than you?

 

For the issues you have raised above...

a. Yes, I empathise with those not able to use the installment plan. I used it when it was available, but I planned ahead so that my affairs were under my control. A plan B if you like. So while I might empathise, I certainly do not sympathise.

b. No, I do not empathise with regard to a pre-season tour - the club has done nothing to stop anyone going along. The club has never provided the means to any supporter as far as I am aware of getting to pre-season matches abroad. It is a personal choice to arrange and to go. So I repeat, what is there to empathise with?

 

Having said all that, this thread was about the supposed changing of names of the hospitality suites and what a dreadful issue this was. And again I repeat, what exactly is the problem? IMO there is no problem - to anyone - except perhaps the celebs who have had a good innings making money from their association with the club. I CAN empathise if the club feels now is a good time to move on and change the status quo. Big picture and all that good stuff.

[buctootim]

Spot the suit.

Bet you don't get to many away games!

 

It is a spectacularly stupid post - you clearly have never been in hospitality otherwise you wouldnt be slating it. As others have said its a good craic for a special occasion - the suites are mostly filled with fans who save up to go in there a few times a year. Last time for me was with my brother, sister and her grown kids for her 50th birthday. Is that okay by you?

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Spot the suit.

Bet you don't get to many away games!

 

I go corporate and go to loads of away games.

 

So there.

[David Strover]

Can DBP please keep to this name for a while now? It makes the ignore list easier to control. Many thanks.

[Faz]

Cup in storm a tea

[The boy done well]

I do not know why all you NC knockers do not just go and find another club to support.

 

Agree with this. NC saw the opportunity and brought in ML. We've just had a really enjoyable season with an even better one and a great future to look forward to. The whingers are obviously not on board and may be more suited to a lower league non-ambitious clubs which could well be what we'll be again if NC reads some of these threads and takes them seriously. Hopefully he won't.

 

If all of StuRomseySaint's mates are not now going to get season tickets or refuse to renew that's up to them but in all honesty are they really Saints supporters with so much to look forward to. Aldershot might be their solution. I would guess that it's the defaulters on the instalment plan who have caused the club to pull the plug on it. I would also guess that most of the defaulters are the ones who can't get 12 months 0% credit cards to buy their season tickets this time. On the suite names like one or two posters have said I can't see that much (if anything) has changed.

 

Certain people seem to have an agenda. They make a point and then repeat it over and over again so that any sympathy turns into total irritation. You wonder just what they might come up with next.

[Marsdinho]

Blimey lads...come on.

 

You are arguing the toss over what the suites are called FFS.

 

Prawn sandwich anyone?

[dune]

If Rupert had done this there would have been uproar.

[NickG]

not when we were doing ok