Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 infact, dont bother (as if you were going to) like I said, I will not be renewing (thank god I hear you all say) it is quite evident that stu can do what he likes and the resident racist can post all day not the sort of message board it used to be or I want to give money to at the mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 ahh, you have had these PMs too...to meet him for a "chat" he must think that I am kind of scared of some over weight ex pongo... not that I am going to meet him of course.. but yep, still getting the same reponse with his new account...maybe, the problem is a little closer to home..? There are actually times, when reading Stu's points, that I can envisage him headbutting the screen or keyboard in anger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 okok steve..I honestly believe that I get a stero typical reponse to some of my posts and get labelled for no other reason than being TDD... any chance of a new username and zero post count..? Have you made any genuine points, backed up by facts, that have been ignored in favour of personal abuse? Point me in that direction and I'll genuinely consider it. then you have the racist that is dune/stanley I distinctly remember some of your posts being somewhat "fruity" in the past, those in glass houses, etc. did stus infractions continue with BDP..? (just curious with the deal if I get a new account).. Yes infact, dont bother (as if you were going to) like I said, I will not be renewing (thank god I hear you all say) it is quite evident that stu can do what he likes and the resident racist can post all day not the sort of message board it used to be or I want to give money to at the mo So why waste your time and mine asking the question in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 sorry to waste your time...it is not just me that can see one or two posters getting preferential treatment..like I said, I got 6 infractions yet others *cough* continue with their foul mouthed abuse... dont worry, its your toy and all that, ignore me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 did stus infractions continue with BDP..? (just curious with the deal if I get a new account).. Yes With that in mind then Steve, Stanley's banning will mean that should Dune get the required infractions then Dune will get a life ban? I know I mentioned this with Pancake but, as he said, he's no longer an Admin or Mod so I thought I'd get it set in stone with you. So that we all know where we stand, on a level playing field, which should be warning enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Can the Mods really dish out driving bans? Or has this thread wandered a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Quality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 With that in mind then Steve, Stanley's banning will mean that should Dune get the required infractions then Dune will get a life ban? I know I mentioned this with Pancake but, as he said, he's no longer an Admin or Mod so I thought I'd get it set in stone with you. So that we all know where we stand, on a level playing field, which should be warning enough? Assuming Stanley was banned on SaintsWeb and not any of the predecessors (can't remember off the top of my head, will check if it becomes relevant), then yes, that is the case. To be fair to him, he does seem to have worked out how to stay within the rules these days - I was amazed the general election forum didn't cause him to effectively commit forum suicide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Stu approached us and asked if he could create a new user account because he believed people weren't actually taking any notice of the points he was making in posts because they saw it was StuRomseySaint posting them, and that he might actually get some proper responses with a different username. We agreed to this on the condition that the SRS account was blocked, which it has been. He is only using one username. He may be now, but Dave Benson-Phillips first post was on 14 June, StuRomseySaints last post was 26 June. Dave Benson-RomseySaint was therefore posting for 12 days as 2 users, one of which was on a blocked account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 A lot of good points have been made on the Main Board by posters who are considered 'against the grain' (19C, Alpine, Stu, dune, TDD, LGTC, Wiltshire...) but no-one notices as they are usually blinded by their 'hatred' of the poster. I have, for a long time, been of the opinion that you should read the post and not the author. Unfortunately even I cannot stick to that doctrine, and that is one of the reasons I left as a Mod. I have also be guilty of the opposite version; where a post has ****ed me off so much I felt like complaining/ranting/reporting but talked myself out of it as it was a poster I 'liked'. What to do though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 A lot of good points have been made on the Main Board by posters who are considered 'against the grain' (19C, Alpine, Stu, dune, TDD, LGTC, Wiltshire...) but no-one notices as they are usually blinded by their 'hatred' of the poster. I have, for a long time, been of the opinion that you should read the post and not the author. Unfortunately even I cannot stick to that doctrine, and that is one of the reasons I left as a Mod. I have also be guilty of the opposite version; where a post has ****ed me off so much I felt like complaining/ranting/reporting but talked myself out of it as it was a poster I 'liked'. What to do though? When someone espouses vile, racist, Nazi dogma which promotes removing all the rights of certain members of society then I think that invalidates anything they have to say on those specific subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 like I said, I will not be renewing (thank god I hear you all say) I love Rupert, I hate Rupert. Portvliet is a legend, Portvliet is a ****, Wotte is doing a great job, Wotte is a ****, I won't renew, I will renew. Can you spot the pattern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 I love Rupert, I hate Rupert. Portvliet is a legend, Portvliet is a ****, Wotte is doing a great job, Wotte is a ****, I won't renew, I will renew. Can you spot the pattern? Ironic Stanley, very ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 He may be now, but Dave Benson-Phillips first post was on 14 June, StuRomseySaints last post was 26 June. Dave Benson-RomseySaint was therefore posting for 12 days as 2 users, one of which was on a blocked account. Yes, and when I discovered this I banned both of his accounts and asked him which one he would like to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Ironic Stanley, very ironic. Almost as Ironic as VFTT calling me a Nazi when I do not hold anti semetic views and I despise Socialism, whilst VFTT uses derogatory terms to describe those with disabilities and therefore openly supports the Nazi attitude towards to the disabled. The fascsists of the future will call themselves anti fascists - in VFTT's case never have truer words been spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Stu approached us and asked if he could create a new user account because he believed people weren't actually taking any notice of the points he was making in posts because they saw it was StuRomseySaint posting them, and that he might actually get some proper responses with a different username. We agreed to this on the condition that the SRS account was blocked, which it has been. He is only using one username. Yes, and when I discovered this I banned both of his accounts and asked him which one he would like to keep. So did SRS approach you, as a collective of mods, as stevegrant implies or was Stevegrant working unilaterally, therefore you were unaware of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 So did SRS approach you, as a collective of mods, as stevegrant implies or was Stevegrant working unilaterally, therefore you were unaware of it? That, frankly, has nothing to do with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 That, frankly, has nothing to do with you. Thanks. The answer appears to be pretty clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 That, frankly, has nothing to do with you. You are, frankly, correct. I realise it's your ball and you can do what you like with it. It just appears there are inconsistencies with what administrators are saying, and in the interest of fairness and impartiality (because that, after all is how this forum is run) should be cleared up. As, I’m sure you are aware, that’s my third post for today, and I’m metaphorically going home, you guys can keep on playing with your ball ‘til it gets dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 On this new fandangled forum, which I have publicly stated is not to my taste, is there anyway of highlighting threads in which a good old bundle is taking place? I have only happened by this one now by pure chance and appear to have missed all the action - feeling well left out...!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 I'll let you know next time Micky So basically, an infraction depends almost entirely on whether or not you are argueing with or against the points made and are seen favourably by the moderating team ? For example certain posters are able to continually spam away and full on bad mouth people on the forum and then i post a thread asking whether we should write a petition to the club to get a certain situation sorted and i get accused of a wind up ?? Now, don't get me wrong, i am not at all calling for those certain posters to be infracted, i am not some sort of sissy and actually think a bit of banter is good for the forum, unfortunately it seems as if it is being removed altogether which IMO is to the detriment of the forum as a whole. But what i am saying, is a little consistency wouldn't go a miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 S_S. spot on, if someone says something we dont agree with, we infract. It has nothing at all to do with them winding someone else up, repeating a topic for the upteenth time, insulting someone else. Basically we ignore those posts, but if you hold an opinion different from ours...wooahh.... you better watch it buddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 S_S. spot on, if someone says something we dont agree with, we infract. It has nothing at all to do with them winding someone else up, repeating a topic for the upteenth time, insulting someone else. Basically we ignore those posts, but if you hold an opinion different from ours...wooahh.... you better watch it buddy! Actually, despite you trying to be ironic, its getting pretty close to that. How, for example, is SRS able to start endless threads on basically the same theme 'Cortese is a ****' and post the same opinion 60 times a day, and abuse people - but Wiltshire Saint holding a mirror up to people in a humorous way is unacceptable - or is it the mirror you object to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Actually, despite you trying to be ironic, its getting pretty close to that. How, for example, is SRS able to start endless threads on basically the same theme 'Cortese is a ****' and post the same opinion 60 times a day, and abuse people - but Wiltshire Saint holding a mirror up to people in a humorous way is unacceptable - or is it the mirror you object to? Its the mirror, it makes me look fat. If you're talking about the main board, I never moderate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 S_S. spot on, if someone says something we dont agree with, we infract. It has nothing at all to do with them winding someone else up, repeating a topic for the upteenth time, insulting someone else. Basically we ignore those posts, but if you hold an opinion different from ours...wooahh.... you better watch it buddy! I'm not trying to upturn the apple cart baj (is that even a saying ?? I don't think so, oh well) It is just i have tried to stay within the limits of infractions and to stay away from generally being a ars*, i have my opinions, everyone does and i will explain mine but also see both sides. It just felt to me at the time that i got a very very easy infraction TBH and still do. I mean really ?? 3 infraction points for that is a bit harsh, i was hardly baiting as much as some do. I can understand if someone steps over the mark they get infracted, but some of the smaller infractions are tearing the humour out of this site IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Its the mirror, it makes me look fat. If you're talking about the main board, I never moderate it. Fair enough. I hear pink is very slimming. Re main board - i didnt know you didnt moderate it. thanks. Makes things clearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Almost as Ironic as VFTT calling me a Nazi when I do not hold anti semetic views and I despise Socialism, whilst VFTT uses derogatory terms to describe those with disabilities and therefore openly supports the Nazi attitude towards to the disabled. The fascsists of the future will call themselves anti fascists - in VFTT's case never have truer words been spoken. Being anti semetic is not a precondition to being Nazi, although it would help. You did like socialism, National Socialism to be exact, in your previous incarnation as Stanley. You did like being racist, in your previous incarnations as Stanley. You also still have a predeliction for tarring all I.B. claimants with the same brush, which could be construed as a rather extreme type of leaning. You are going to have to be at the top of your game in remembering what your internet personna is this time Stanley. You may get caught out, once again, and this time the ban will be for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Fair enough. I hear pink is very slimming. Re main board - i didnt know you didnt moderate it. thanks. Makes things clearer. Ive never moderated, in the 7 or 8 years of helping/running this forum in its different incarnations, thats also the reason why you never see me post on it. Its generally because I dont know what the **** im talking about when it comes to football, stevegrant, minty, The9, they will all testify to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Ive never moderated, in the 7 or 8 years of helping/running this forum in its different incarnations, thats also the reason why you never see me post on it. Its generally because I dont know what the **** im talking about when it comes to football, stevegrant, minty, The9, they will all testify to this. Lol! That's two of us then as far as the footy is concerned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Being anti semetic is not a precondition to being Nazi, although it would help. You did like socialism, National Socialism to be exact, in your previous incarnation as Stanley. You did like being racist, in your previous incarnations as Stanley. You also still have a predeliction for tarring all I.B. claimants with the same brush, which could be construed as a rather extreme type of leaning. You are going to have to be at the top of your game in remembering what your internet personna is this time Stanley. You may get caught out, once again, and this time the ban will be for good. So does VFTT's use of the terms "retards" and "mongs" demonstrate NAZI characteristics or not? Or do you, like him, have the view that using derogatory terms for disabled people is acceptable and in line with your Liberal lecturing and is completely different to using derogatory terms for those with a different skin colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Knowledge of football isnt a pre-requisite as Im sure you've realised. Take the point tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Originally Posted by EastleighSoulBoy Being anti semetic is not a precondition to being Nazi, although it would help. You did like socialism, National Socialism to be exact, in your previous incarnation as Stanley. You did like being racist, in your previous incarnations as Stanley. You also still have a predeliction for tarring all I.B. claimants with the same brush, which could be construed as a rather extreme type of leaning. You are going to have to be at the top of your game in remembering what your internet personna is this time Stanley. You may get caught out, once again, and this time the ban will be for good. So does VFTT's use of the terms "retards" and "mongs" demonstrate NAZI characteristics or not? Or do you, like him, have the view that using derogatory terms for disabled people is acceptable and in line with your Liberal lecturing and is completely different to using derogatory terms for those with a different skin colour? If, as you allege, VFTT has used those terms then he's wrong. So you agree with my post about you and your previous incarnation Stanley then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Lol! That's two of us then as far as the footy is concerned! To be fair there are many, doesn't stop them posting though:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 If, as you allege, VFTT has used those terms then he's wrong. So you agree with my post about you and your previous incarnation Stanley then? When you say VFTT's wrong do you agree that his views are akin with the NAZI's? Or are you of the view that discriminating and using derogatory terms against the disabled isn't as bad as discriminating and using derogatory terms against those of a different race or religion? I think you and him have double standards on this - prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 S_S. spot on, if someone says something we dont agree with, we infract. It has nothing at all to do with them winding someone else up, repeating a topic for the upteenth time, insulting someone else. Basically we ignore those posts, but if you hold an opinion different from ours...wooahh.... you better watch it buddy! Would never have realised TBH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 (edited) Quick question did Jonnyboy pick up a driving ban, yes or no? Edited 1 July, 2010 by Toomer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Quick question did Jonnyboy pick a driving ban, yes or no? Lol, oh was that the original point being made ? I sure haven't a clue;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 basically...the rules are..dont swear or mouth off at anyone or you will be infracted...of course, the rules for SRS/DBP are completely different as you could count about 20 infractions per day they way he goes on.. anyway, your toy and all that eh MODS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 basically...the rules are..dont swear or mouth off at anyone or you will be infracted...of course, the rules for SRS/DBP are completely different as you could count about 20 infractions per day they way he goes on.. anyway, your toy and all that eh MODS You're like an old woman with your mithering. If you have a complaint why don't you just send a PM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 Ultimate irony is the person that banned you. I'm assuming that's actually 'Ultimate Impartiality' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 When you say VFTT's wrong do you agree that his views are akin with the NAZI's? Or are you of the view that discriminating and using derogatory terms against the disabled isn't as bad as discriminating and using derogatory terms against those of a different race or religion? I think you and him have double standards on this - prove me wrong. You think what you like my little Nazi. All a ploy to try and turn two people, who don't necessarily agree on everything, to your advantage. I'll give you another little piece to seize upon so you can try and twist things. I have called people 'mental' before, as already mentioned on here. The point I am making is that you are the one who, it now seems, is not only a racist and Nazi but a liar. One minute you aren't Stanley then you were (admitted, openly by Pancake, corroborating our thoughts) One minute you liked Nationalist Socialism then you hate socialism (less specific i know). Why! you're worse than DellDays who you berated for changing his mind! At least DellDays, to my knowledge, is not a racist or a Nazi scumbag who thinks that all I.B. claimants are slobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 You think what you like my little Nazi. All a ploy to try and turn two people, who don't necessarily agree on everything, to your advantage. I'll give you another little piece to seize upon so you can try and twist things. I have called people 'mental' before, as already mentioned on here. The point I am making is that you are the one who, it now seems, is not only a racist and Nazi but a liar. One minute you aren't Stanley then you were (admitted, openly by Pancake, corroborating our thoughts) One minute you liked Nationalist Socialism then you hate socialism (less specific i know). Why! you're worse than DellDays who you berated for changing his mind! At least DellDays, to my knowledge, is not a racist or a Nazi scumbag who thinks that all I.B. claimants are slobs. You're right, it is ploy to expose the double standards of the pair of you. You think you're some kind of leftwing angel, but you cannot bring yourself to admit that discrimination against the disabled is no different to discrimination against another race or religion. If someone on here was to use a derogatory term to describe an Asian you'd be horrified and would go running to the teachers (or mods in this instance) as fast as your little legs would carry you, but when your "mate" uses derogatory terms to described disabled people it's just "wrong" and as far as you're concerned that's the end of it. You really need to take a long hard look at yourself before you start preaching from the pulpit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 i think your all *****'s. Especially smirker. Tell your mrs to change her fbk profile pic to remove you, as it puts me off my stroke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 You're right, it is ploy to expose the double standards of the pair of you. You think you're some kind of leftwing angel, but you cannot bring yourself to admit that discrimination against the disabled is no different to discrimination against another race or religion. If someone on here was to use a derogatory term to describe an Asian you'd be horrified and would go running to the teachers (or mods in this instance) as fast as your little legs would carry you, but when your "mate" uses derogatory terms to described disabled people it's just "wrong" and as far as you're concerned that's the end of it. You really need to take a long hard look at yourself before you start preaching from the pulpit. To be honest Nazi, I never saw it, if I had I would have had to say something. As it is I have made my feelings public about VFTT, and others attitudes to people with mental ill health. Now let's get back to the crux, why do you expect us to believe that Dune is not the racist Nazi that Stanley was? What gave you that 'life changing moment?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 1 July, 2010 Share Posted 1 July, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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