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who is this marie Celeste is this just another French player we have signed. Hope he is fit, football wise that is.

A good three points and followed by 3 against Norwich and we could be onto something but 3 points without fail please Saints. Never did like that moaning lark I really started sounding like her indoors.

Its only a game boys.

Well done JP my coaching is starting to help the coach.

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Well done for the win to all concerned.

 

However,our defending was lamentable.Very little protection for the defence from midfield.Not great in final third.We beat a team even poorer than we have been playing latlely.

 

Lets hope this will bring some confidence to get us playing better.

 

Having said that,considering the clubs position,a lot of people would have been happy with 8 points from 8 games and out of the relegation places,before the season started.

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What a futile and pointless thread? Every bloody fan of SFC wants us to win every week - it's quite simple really NickH. Or maybe you are quite simple?

 

We are all Southampton fans (except for one or two skates who are allowed) and when on the odd occasion we do we win are ALL bloody delighted. That's twice now if you can keep count. You in the mean time tell us how great we are day in day out regardless of any visual or statistical evidence to the contrary.

 

This apparently makes you a greater fan than the unconvinced. And when on those rare days we do win you think it means you were always right, enjoy it more than the rest of us and are the top fan ever.

 

F'ing marvellous result today, I'm ecstatic. It doesn't mean losing to Rotherham and being 19th in the CC makes us world beaters but it does mean we're all happy tonight - except YOU! Oh the beautiful irony - when we do finally win YOU are the one who's ****ed off because there aren't enough complaints for you to slag off?

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Win or lose i am on here and still want all 3 of them away from the club for good, wanted rupert away since 97 .

What goes on on the pitch will not change that for me

 

Well said Mike, although in all fairness those who stay away because of Lowilde are entitled to their opinion. Not implying that you are saying any different though mate.

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What a futile and pointless thread? Every bloody fan of SFC wants us to win every week - it's quite simple really NickH. Or maybe you are quite simple?

 

We are all Southampton fans (except for one or two skates who are allowed) and when on the odd occasion we do we win are ALL bloody delighted. That's twice now if you can keep count. You in the mean time tell us how great we are day in day out regardless of any visual or statistical evidence to the contrary.

 

This apparently makes you a greater fan than the unconvinced. And when on those rare days we do win you think it means you were always right, enjoy it more than the rest of us and are the top fan ever.

 

F'ing marvellous result today, I'm ecstatic. It doesn't mean losing to Rotherham and being 19th in the CC makes us world beaters but it does mean we're all happy tonight - except YOU! Oh the beautiful irony - when we do finally win YOU are the one who's ****ed off because there aren't enough complaints for you to slag off?

 

 

Spot on...one poxy win and all of a sudden we are the dogs whatsits...this is the difference between the realists and the rest. Yes we realists did enjoy the win, however we know that the next win may be a while away.

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Spot on...one poxy win and all of a sudden we are the dogs whatsits...this is the difference between the realists and the rest. Yes we realists did enjoy the win, however we know that the next win may be a while away.

 

So if you are a realist, why are you on here so often moaning about the club's league position? A win.... A defeat.... A draw? Its the same tired ramblings.

 

Also, could I ask that if you are delighted by or enjoyed the win, that you perhaps make it sound like you actually mean it? Its a bit confusing to say that you did but then proceed to moan, criticise and discourage.

 

Thanks

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What a futile and pointless thread? Every bloody fan of SFC wants us to win every week - it's quite simple really NickH. Or maybe you are quite simple?

 

We are all Southampton fans (except for one or two skates who are allowed) and when on the odd occasion we do we win are ALL bloody delighted. That's twice now if you can keep count. You in the mean time tell us how great we are day in day out regardless of any visual or statistical evidence to the contrary.

 

This apparently makes you a greater fan than the unconvinced. And when on those rare days we do win you think it means you were always right, enjoy it more than the rest of us and are the top fan ever.

 

F'ing marvellous result today, I'm ecstatic. It doesn't mean losing to Rotherham and being 19th in the CC makes us world beaters but it does mean we're all happy tonight - except YOU! Oh the beautiful irony - when we do finally win YOU are the one who's ****ed off because there aren't enough complaints for you to slag off?

 

Good post sir.

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So if you are a realist, why are you on here so often moaning about the club's league position? A win.... A defeat.... A draw? Its the same tired ramblings.

 

Also, could I ask that if you are delighted by or enjoyed the win, that you perhaps make it sound like you actually mean it? Its a bit confusing to say that you did but then proceed to moan, criticise and discourage.

 

Thanks

 

Thats what realists do, I keep saying that one win does not mean security, does not mean our troubles are over, does not mean that we have a good coach does not mean that we have the players in the team to survive.

Of course ANY win is great, but must be tempered with reality. Just look at the number of contributors on here who did not expect the win, now that should tell you that all is far from well.

Just because we have a more realistic view of the team etc, does not mean that we cannot enjoy a win, no matter how infrequent they are

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Just as many would say "its still only x games into the season, we shall do better at home to Norwich" I shall add the provisio "It was only Doncaster, surely Norwich at home will be a better yard stick.." but I am delighted with every Saints win.. but the worries about our defence and the "Davis makes ANOTHER great save" factor will not go away.

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its true some posters flow between ecstacy and deep depression but then thats the life of a saints fan. Compare posts after Derby and then Blackpool for instance. But for me the reality is that we will be very near the bottom this season, unless the youngsters bulk up and grow up and as we all know that will take time. meanwhile we will continue to meet teams like Blackpool, traditional big blokes that muscle you out, and slicker "teams" like Sheff U, Wolves, Reading, to name but a few. When compared to them we look literally "out of their league" ... a ominous phrase to say the least. Then we play the "lighter weight" teams Barnsley, Donny, Forest, and we hope we can win but our limitations (pretty football, lack of bite, inexperience, lack of depth ) are always there to haunt or hold us back.. Well that my opinion and we either need to grow up fast or ship in some experience (the sort that doesnt get injured for large parts of the season.. or cant play 2 games in one week). IMO.

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Its just an observation.the point was that about an hour after the game the site had nobody on here debating anything, it was dead.When we lose the site is full of people moaning.

 

partly because wehn we win we all go off to celebrate pub, etc but when we lose we look for answers/reasons/blame...

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. In reality he is probably as worried as the rest of us

 

Of course Im concerned but it is the way it is portrayed that is the difference.I realise that you either pick away at the clubs/players confidence or try and back them when things are bad.

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Well done for the win to all concerned.

 

However,our defending was lamentable.Very little protection for the defence from midfield.Not great in final third.We beat a team even poorer than we have been playing latlely.

 

Lets hope this will bring some confidence to get us playing better.

 

Having said that,considering the clubs position,a lot of people would have been happy with 8 points from 8 games and out of the relegation places,before the season started.

 

Good to see you post a positive followed by your normal negative slating.

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Got back from the UK on Tuesday but yesterday was the first day back on this board as I really can't face the negativity and in-fighting as epitomised on this thread.

 

I saw two games on my visit to the UK - both the draws at SMS. My previous visit at Christmas I saw two losses and from that perspective we are now showing so much more effort and not a little skill at times. We lack experience, Surman is no full-back and we need someone who can score. In the formation we had against Barnsley SJ gave the ball away a lot so how we integrate him into the team I don't know.

 

It's a worrying time for us but I think that with a young team you can expect improvement whereas with past-it old pros you sometimes get them just going through the motions. Having said that I'm sure Thomas, Euell and Skacel have a contribution to make but people seem to ignore the fact that they are injured/unfit (and possibly unmotivated.. Skacel anyone?). I even feel that JP is not given credit where it is due: you can't criticise him for having a crap boss, and what he says in the press seems sensible, and he's not afraid of judicious criticism of the players either.

 

A scrappy win will help morale, but a thousand or two more on the gate would help too. It was so sad seeing only 15000 on my visits to SMS. I'm sure many of you have good reasons not to go, but I just wish you didn't use Lowilde as your excuse. I dislike them and Askham and have voted my shares against them but I don't let this spill over into some of the more depressing negativity that comes out here.

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What a futile and pointless thread? Every bloody fan of SFC wants us to win every week - it's quite simple really NickH. Or maybe you are quite simple?

 

We are all Southampton fans (except for one or two skates who are allowed) and when on the odd occasion we do we win are ALL bloody delighted. That's twice now if you can keep count. You in the mean time tell us how great we are day in day out regardless of any visual or statistical evidence to the contrary.

 

This apparently makes you a greater fan than the unconvinced. And when on those rare days we do win you think it means you were always right, enjoy it more than the rest of us and are the top fan ever.

 

F'ing marvellous result today, I'm ecstatic. It doesn't mean losing to Rotherham and being 19th in the CC makes us world beaters but it does mean we're all happy tonight - except YOU! Oh the beautiful irony - when we do finally win YOU are the one who's ****ed off because there aren't enough complaints for you to slag off?

 

Couldn't agree more, spot on.

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Just the other day the wrist slitters were telling us that the club was finished and that we were going down. They were also telling us that if Pearson had stayed (3 wins in 13 competitive matches - win currently have 4 in less) things would be better.

 

Beating Doncaster hardly makes us world beaters, but I can remember seasons when we couldn't buy an away win, and we are only 4 points off the play off places. The same people who would have us believe that Lowe is the devil and is taking us to hell pointed at Crystal Palace as where we should be....hmmmm.

 

Next time we lose they will be back again revelling in our demise, just a shame they can't keep their negativity for the day we actually do fall apart rather than the games when we fail to emulate Manchester United.

 

We are a CCC club trying to make ends meet and relying on a lot of youngsters who, it is hoped, with the experience they gain this year will make us a better team next year and the year after that. There will always be fans with no pateince who expect eveything over night, trouble is they are pulling us down and depressing the hell out of us.

 

I suggest they all go off with Alpine and watch cheap and cheerfful football in Austria.

 

The reality for Saints fans for the immediate future is not pretty, but it is what suporting a football team is all about. You stick with them through thick and thin. Enjoy the good times and keep supporting your teams when times are not so good.

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Just the other day the wrist slitters were telling us that the club was finished and that we were going down. They were also telling us that if Pearson had stayed (3 wins in 13 competitive matches - win currently have 4 in less) things would be better.

 

Beating Doncaster hardly makes us world beaters, but I can remember seasons when we couldn't buy an away win, and we are only 4 points off the play off places. The same people who would have us believe that Lowe is the devil and is taking us to hell pointed at Crystal Palace as where we should be....hmmmm.

 

Next time we lose they will be back again revelling in our demise, just a shame they can't keep their negativity for the day we actually do fall apart rather than the games when we fail to emulate Manchester United.

 

We are a CCC club trying to make ends meet and relying on a lot of youngsters who, it is hoped, with the experience they gain this year will make us a better team next year and the year after that. There will always be fans with no pateince who expect eveything over night, trouble is they are pulling us down and depressing the hell out of us.

 

I suggest they all go off with Alpine and watch cheap and cheerfful football in Austria.

 

The reality for Saints fans for the immediate future is not pretty, but it is what suporting a football team is all about. You stick with them through thick and thin. Enjoy the good times and keep supporting your teams when times are not so good.

 

Same old boring shiit from SOGGY. Thank foook he's too tight-fisted to fork out a fiver, it means we dont have to put up with any more of his self-perceived wisdom today..

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What a futile and pointless thread? Every bloody fan of SFC wants us to win every week - it's quite simple really NickH. Or maybe you are quite simple?

 

We are all Southampton fans (except for one or two skates who are allowed) and when on the odd occasion we do we win are ALL bloody delighted. That's twice now if you can keep count. You in the mean time tell us how great we are day in day out regardless of any visual or statistical evidence to the contrary.

 

This apparently makes you a greater fan than the unconvinced. And when on those rare days we do win you think it means you were always right, enjoy it more than the rest of us and are the top fan ever.

 

F'ing marvellous result today, I'm ecstatic. It doesn't mean losing to Rotherham and being 19th in the CC makes us world beaters but it does mean we're all happy tonight - except YOU! Oh the beautiful irony - when we do finally win YOU are the one who's ****ed off because there aren't enough complaints for you to slag off?

EFM, Its ironic you call people simple when you cannot see that I was pointing out that when we win the board is quiet as a grave.None of the negative posters coming on and debating a victory.No they disappear and wait for a defeat so they can fill the site with depressing and negative threads of doom and disaster.Why because we won did the board not fill up with happy but on the cautious side posts. No it cant be done as it is so blo### hard to do so to add some praise.

I wasnt expecting fans going all overboard but an hour or so after the game there were perhaps 3-5 on here talking about a good result.Compare that to the Rotherham or Blackpool games and it was bedlum.

so your bitter attack was unjustified and no Im not a better fan as there were 958 a lot better than me who went up north to the game.They are the great fans.

Your comments of me saying Im right because we won come from where? of course there isnt a quote you can find because thats not what I do, I stay even handed win lose or draw.

So before you get all offended perhaps you'd sit back and think before you make your unfounded attacks and get off your high horse and see that the thread was apt and true.

YOu only sing when we're losing would be an good way of portraying some of the more negative posters on here.

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Nick up to the point when you started this sh*t thread 60 posts had been added to the post match thread, so it was hardly quiet. Also we were playing away from home a lot of people who post would still be travelling. Where you expecting another post Derby embarrassment.

 

It would suit you to think there are many people seething at a victory but it just isn't true, 99% on here prefers us to win and there is only one fan I can remember who has publicly stated that they wanted us to lose and that is your crush, the great Scooby.

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Nick up to the point when you started this sh*t thread 60 posts had been added to the post match thread, so it was hardly quiet. Also we were playing away from home a lot of people who post would still be travelling. Where you expecting another post Derby embarrassment.

 

It would suit you to think there are many people seething at a victory but it just isn't true, 99% on here prefers us to win and there is only one fan I can remember who has publicly stated that they wanted us to lose and that is your crush, the great Scooby.

FtF 60 posts in how long?

As for fans wishing for us to lose, I dont believe many would want us to.There were occasions when there were a few fans wishing for a defeat so they could have a player dropped or manager sacked.I dont know when Scooby wanted us to lose , if he did say so he's a p###k but i doubt it.I like scoobys posts because they are such an obvious wind up and he knows exactly how to hit the point and I see the same rabid anti Lowes falling for it time and again.Its a game to him, and seeing all the abusive replies he gets I m sure he gets amusement from that as he knows he's hit the mark.

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FtF 60 posts in how long?

As for fans wishing for us to lose, I dont believe many would want us to.There were occasions when there were a few fans wishing for a defeat so they could have a player dropped or manager sacked.I dont know when Scooby wanted us to lose , if he did say so he's a p###k but i doubt it.I like scoobys posts because they are such an obvious wind up and he knows exactly how to hit the point and I see the same rabid anti Lowes falling for it time and again.Its a game to him, and seeing all the abusive replies he gets I m sure he gets amusement from that as he knows he's hit the mark.

 

Oh he did alright. WBA to be precise.

 

It's been brought up many a time and he's also never denied it.

 

Same as he said he'd never but a penny into the club when Crouch was involved, nor would he attend. The very same things he beats the drum about now.

 

Again, he's never denied it.

 

Why hasn't he? Because many of us remember it from TSF and 606.

 

I guess it won't matter to you though, being in the same luvvie camp.

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Oh he did alright. WBA to be precise.

 

It's been brought up many a time and he's also never denied it.

 

Same as he said he'd never but a penny into the club when Crouch was involved, nor would he attend. The very same things he beats the drum about now.

 

Again, he's never denied it.

 

Why hasn't he? Because many of us remember it from TSF and 606.

 

I guess it won't matter to you though, being in the same luvvie camp.

As I said any fan who wants us to lose is a p#### in my opinion. I cant see why he would have or some who when we we losing wishing it to be even more so that the manager was sacked or a player dropped.I dont take anything Scooby says at face value because he is not on here as a serious poster.People who take him seriously are far too up themselves to see where he is at.The really anti Lowes deserve him because only in extremes do people like him get under their skin.

Many fans on here I have had differing opinions and however they act I take it as a passion as I have about my views and dont take it to heart as they are Saints fans. I think the only thing I have felt totally out of order was wishing a player to get a career threatening injury by a poster and that is unforgiveable.

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Same as he said he'd never but a penny into the club when Crouch was involved, nor would he attend. The very same things he beats the drum about now.

 

Again, he's never denied it.

 

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Well that is a pathetic view then as it is now. Although now it is more critical to the clubs finances.
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Got back from the UK on Tuesday but yesterday was the first day back on this board as I really can't face the negativity and in-fighting as epitomised on this thread.

 

I saw two games on my visit to the UK - both the draws at SMS. My previous visit at Christmas I saw two losses and from that perspective we are now showing so much more effort and not a little skill at times. We lack experience, Surman is no full-back and we need someone who can score. In the formation we had against Barnsley SJ gave the ball away a lot so how we integrate him into the team I don't know.

 

It's a worrying time for us but I think that with a young team you can expect improvement whereas with past-it old pros you sometimes get them just going through the motions. Having said that I'm sure Thomas, Euell and Skacel have a contribution to make but people seem to ignore the fact that they are injured/unfit (and possibly unmotivated.. Skacel anyone?). I even feel that JP is not given credit where it is due: you can't criticise him for having a crap boss, and what he says in the press seems sensible, and he's not afraid of judicious criticism of the players either.

 

A scrappy win will help morale, but a thousand or two more on the gate would help too. It was so sad seeing only 15000 on my visits to SMS. I'm sure many of you have good reasons not to go, but I just wish you didn't use Lowilde as your excuse. I dislike them and Askham and have voted my shares against them but I don't let this spill over into some of the more depressing negativity that comes out here.

good post sue,i think it sums up the silly excuses some of the fans don.t go .
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