Memberships

[The Kraken]

Agreed. Combine the booking tax with let's say 1/20 of let's say £20 and essentially you're potentially paying a £4 premium on top of the ticket price. If memberships are £30 then under the same equation you're looking at £4.50 extra per ticket. For fans that intend to make 10 games the cost is even higher. This whole Ryanair business model is not an ethical business model and i'm surprised at Markus Liebherr for allowing his name to be associated with such practices.

 

As I said, this is all just wanton speculation until the full details are announced.

[dune]

I'd rather be happy clappy than a miserable old git like you, Cortese hasn't shafted us more like trying to run a business, one we so nearly didn't have a year ago, remember? Yes some things could have been handled better but you need to have a grip on reality, wake up and see if what we had a year ago was any beter.

 

The price hikes, sneaky add-ons, total indifference to us "customers", spat with the Echo, and the rather strange hold up in building the new training ground are a clear sign of what's to come. It's great having a team that looks to have turned the corner, but the price we are having to pay for that will, i fear, see the club become more of a luxury treat than a way of life.

[Micky]

So in essence, this thread is speculation that NC might reintroduce a Membership Scheme. This unsubstantiated speculation is then embellished with more speculatory 'shots in the dark' as to what said Membership charges and terms & conditions might be. I take it that this Membership will also be compulsery too.

 

You just gotta love the close season, dontcha...???

[The Kraken]

So in essence, this thread is speculation that NC might reintroduce a Membership Scheme. This unsubstantiated speculation is then embellished with more speculatory 'shots in the dark' as to what said Membership charges and terms & conditions might be. I take it that this Membership will also be compulsery too.

 

You just gotta love the close season, dontcha...???

 

No, the club have already announced that they are releasing details of the new membership scheme in early July. But yes, the rest of the thread is complete speculation about the cost of the scheme and what benefits it will entail.

[Micky]

No, the club have already announced that they are releasing details of the new membership scheme in early July. But yes, the rest of the thread is complete speculation about the cost of the scheme and what benefits it will entail.

 

I stand corrected Dav - thanks for the update.

 

Still bizarre why we are whinging about it - don't like it, don't buy it.

[The Kraken]

I stand corrected Dav - thanks for the update.

 

Still bizarre why we are whinging about it - don't like it, don't buy it.

 

Agreed. I'm all for a bit of speculation about the price and what benefits membership will bring, but complaining about it now without knowing any facts seems a bit retarded.

Edited 20 June, 2010 by The Kraken
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[Thedelldays]

The price hikes, sneaky add-ons, total indifference to us "customers", spat with the Echo, and the rather strange hold up in building the new training ground are a clear sign of what's to come. It's great having a team that looks to have turned the corner, but the price we are having to pay for that will, i fear, see the club become more of a luxury treat than a way of life.

 

its great to be the 10th biggest spenders in the whole country..but not great to help pay for it..?

[hypochondriac]

its great to be the 10th biggest spenders in the whole country..but not great to help pay for it..?

 

I think transparency is the key thing lacking. I'm not asking the club to lay its finances bare, but I do think the fans deserve to be told the reason behind things more often.

[View From The Top]

Agreed. I'm all for a bit of speculation about the price and what benefits membership will bring, but complaining about it now without knowing any facts seems a bit retarded.

 

Stanley is a retard so it's no surprise.

[dune]

Stanley is a retard so it's no surprise.

 

I notice that terms such as "retard" and "mong" are used by you a lot. I'm sure there must be forum members that have children and relations with mental and physical handicaps that find such derogatory remarks hurtful and offensive. May I suggest you tone down your prejudice in future because such terms hark back to the attitudes of the NAZI's and are as discriminatory as racism. You come accross as being very two faced and selective in your application and condemnation of predjudice and to that end you show the same characteristics as those you choose to crucify. No doubt you will come back with some clever and repitive remark, and will remain in denial of your own prejudice. I will leave it to others to judge whether your NAZI attitude to the disabled is acceptable or not.

[StuRomseySaint]

its great to be the 10th biggest spenders in the whole country..but not great to help pay for it..?

 

Liebherr made an initial investment on a completely non-existant team.

 

Seriously, it was £3million FFS , he didn't go out and spend zillions of pounds... he spent a couple of million, which the team needed spent on it to have any chance of him realising his 5 year plan, so he would have factored the costs in to his purchase price.

 

£3m... wouldn't even pay for Rory Delap FFS

[The Kraken]

Liebherr made an initial investment on a completely non-existant team.

 

Seriously, it was £3million FFS , he didn't go out and spend zillions of pounds... he spent a couple of million, which the team needed spent on it to have any chance of him realising his 5 year plan, so he would have factored the costs in to his purchase price.

 

£3m... wouldn't even pay for Rory Delap FFS

 

You need to also consider our net spend as well to see the full context of our spending.

 

Summer 2009 we sold the likes of McGoldrick, Dyer, Surman, Rasiak, BWP, Euell, John etc for a total of £3M. So we effectively lost £3M worth of talent from a side that wasn't very good to begin with. So the money we had to fork our for Lambert, Hammond, Jaidi, Harding, and all of the Xmas arrivals was significantly offset by the incoming transfer fees.

[Thedelldays]

Liebherr made an initial investment on a completely non-existant team.

 

Seriously, it was £3million FFS , he didn't go out and spend zillions of pounds... he spent a couple of million, which the team needed spent on it to have any chance of him realising his 5 year plan, so he would have factored the costs in to his purchase price.

 

£3m... wouldn't even pay for Rory Delap FFS

we never had to buy lambert...we could have made do with paterson..

we never had to buy fonte, we could have made do with perry and jaidi..

[StuRomseySaint]

we never had to buy lambert...we could have made do with paterson..

we never had to buy fonte, we could have made do with perry and jaidi..

 

Have a word with yourself Dulldays. It was £3million FFS 3 f*cking million!!! Hardly massive spenders in relation to our income. Just because lots of other teams ( with established squads ) didn't buy that summer, it's still only f*cking £3m... and most, if not all of that will be recovered in profits.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

What will the benefits be of having a membership then?

 

There is no benefit to home games or Cup games, as shown in the announcement today.

 

The only think I can think is making them compulsory due to trouble last season for away games. Charge all non-STH's £30 if they want to watch Saints away.

[Gemmel]

What will the benefits be of having a membership then?

 

There is no benefit to home games or Cup games, as shown in the announcement today.

 

The only think I can think is making them compulsory due to trouble last season for away games. Charge all non-STH's £30 if they want to watch Saints away.

 

The pricing for the Bournemouth game stipulates that tickets will only be sold to those people on their database. Don't be surprised to find the out the only way to be on the database, is either as a season ticket holder or as a member.

 

I am not saying that is the case, but wouldnt be surprised if thats another new introduction.

[the saint in winchester]

I am happy for memberships to be introduced. Depends on the price though.

 

+1

Depends on cost v benefit. I'll be doing the sums when this is known.

[Iowsaintsfan]

Memberships should come back if they are used in the right way and are to enable people to get further up the queue to buy tickets and not to earn the club more money.

 

 

Agreed, though maybe as an added incentive if you have a memebership you dont pay a booking fee?!

[Chez]

I stand corrected Dav - thanks for the update.

 

Still bizarre why we are whinging about it - don't like it, don't buy it.

 

don't like the thread, then don't read it.

[Chez]

Agreed, though maybe as an added incentive if you have a memebership you dont pay a booking fee?!

I see it now "Spend £20 on a membership and save £138 in booking fees per person over the course of a season". Aren't Saints fans the lucky ones.

[Bakovnetski]

Memberships shall be re-applied for in this house. If we do that well this season and tickets sell like wildfire just wait until you hear the complaints from those who aren't ST or Members about getting them. You get what you give IMO.

[John Boy Saint]

I was quite happy with my membership at the £12 -£15 or whatever it was at the time as it came in very useful when getting tickets for the Cup final and the games leading up to it. When we had games where all the JCLs would get off their backsides having membership gave me an advantage (especially living & working outside Southampton) to get tickets over those who could not be bothered to attend Leicester at SMS on a cold wet January Tuesday night.

I have to say using this as a stick to beat NC is a bit bolting the stable door, we had had our pants pulled down on this years ago, but then when getting into the Dell thanks to my membership was enabled by a small outlay at the beginning of the season I can live with it.................................................... However the ticket poll tax before the day of the match certainly is a kick in the wedding vegetables!

[crouchi]

There is almost zero chance of sell outs, tickets for the JPT final were easy to come by, memberships don't appear to convey any advantage when regular gates are 10k under capacity - save your money until we are back in the top flight

[The Kraken]

There is almost zero chance of sell outs, tickets for the JPT final were easy to come by, memberships don't appear to convey any advantage when regular gates are 10k under capacity - save your money until we are back in the top flight

 

Being as the club haven't yet released details of the membership scheme, is it not a bit premature for this level of reasoning?

[Gorgiesaint]

Being as the club haven't yet released details of the membership scheme, is it not a bit premature for this level of reasoning?

 

Don't let sensible reasoning like that stop people from joining the wagon train of criticising anything that moves!!

[Dave Benson Phillips]

There is almost zero chance of sell outs, tickets for the JPT final were easy to come by, memberships don't appear to convey any advantage when regular gates are 10k under capacity - save your money until we are back in the top flight

 

As I said previously, if the club are going to be consistant with their " money at any means " policy, they will introduce a membership for away games. Most games are on a sale or return basis so there is no financial risk to the club for not selling the tickets.

 

It will be based on having to be a member or season ticket holder to purchase away tickets, as a security measure, like Stoke for example do. It will be sold as unfortunate but a bid to combat the rise in trouble last season. Expect a booking / admin fee of £20-£30 too.

 

 

My prediction is already looking more likely, as it seems there is going to be no benefit to a member for League home games.

[Badger]

Are'nt memberships due for an announcement today ?

 

Perhaps I'll have to wait until 11.25pm though.

[dune]

Are'nt memberships due for an announcement today ?

 

Perhaps I'll have to wait until 11.25pm though.

 

Will it be another PR gaffe?

[Badger]

Still no mention of memberships ?

[Bucks Saint]

Still no mention of memberships ?

 

IMPORTANT UPDATE: still zilch re memberships (apart from J Saints of course)

[benjii]

I've just emailed the ticket office asking when membership details are going to be released.

 

Will let you know what I hear.

[The Kraken]

I'm kind of at a loss to figure out what benefit the membership scheme will bring. I had hoped the membership scheme would offer money off tickets, or negate the booking fee; however, tickets for the home games have been on sale for a while now, so I guess we can assume that any sort of price reduction for members isn't going to happen (or those that have bought tickets already are going to be pretty p!ssed off). Also, ff tickets are being sold then being "on the database" isn't necessitated by being a member.

 

So with that in mind I can only assume that to buy tickets for away games you'll need to be a member. There are just no other benefits I can see which, at this point in time, would be realistic. And if that's the case it will be one almighty rip off from the club.

 

I hope I'm wrong, but right now I just can't see any other point to membership.

[hypochondriac]

It really is sh*tty that the club says something is going to be released and then it isn't. Why bother saying that something like the away shirts are going to be released in 2 weeks and then not release them for ages? What is the point?

[Dave Benson Phillips]

I've just emailed the ticket office asking when membership details are going to be released.

 

Will let you know what I hear.

 

Benjii

 

I am sorry but currently have no information with regards to any membership schemes.

 

Regards

 

D Luker

[benjii]

I imagine the benefit of membership will be priority over non-members for matches where tickets are in high demand; the same as it always used to be.

 

There will be some away matches where it will be difficult to get tickets. Maybe also one or two home games where being a member will give you piece of mind and avoid entering a late-in-the-day scrum for tickets, although that will depend on how we're doing/who we're playing etc...

 

It was £20, the last time the scheme existed IIRC. I'm not sure it would be worth £20 but I would probably pay a tenner for suitable away priority. Anyhoo, we shall see when it is announced.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

I imagine the benefit of membership will be priority over non-members for matches where tickets are in high demand; the same as it always used to be.

 

There will be some away matches where it will be difficult to get tickets. Maybe also one or two home games where being a member will give you piece of mind and avoid entering a late-in-the-day scrum for tickets, although that will depend on how we're doing/who we're playing etc...

 

It was £20, the last time the scheme existed IIRC. I'm not sure it would be worth £20 but I would probably pay a tenner for suitable away priority. Anyhoo, we shall see when it is announced.

 

Considering the game which will attract our biggest gate of the season is already on general sale, I can't see it having anything to do with home games. ( If it is then they have dropped yet anothe B*llock by putting the Bournemouth game on general sale and completely devalueing memberships )

 

I believe that memberships will be for away games and a guaranteed seat to any Wembley trips we might be lucky enough to have. That really is the only now they can add value to a membership.

[Torres]

Considering the game which will attract our biggest gate of the season is already on general sale, I can't see it having anything to do with home games. ( If it is then they have dropped yet anothe B*llock by putting the Bournemouth game on general sale and completely devalueing memberships )

 

I believe that memberships will be for away games and a guaranteed seat to any Wembley trips we might be lucky enough to have. That really is the only now they can add value to a membership.

 

Plus a small memebrship card that you can carry in your wallet

[Brussels Saint]

That's what astounds me about this happy clappy place. The whole "who cares if Cortese shafts us" attitude is quite bemusing. But I do know that given time the likes of Dulldays will change their tune as has always been.

 

Thing is I don't think its a case of Cortese shafting us. One thing that should be clear to everyone, (especially Southampton) is that a football club needs to live within its means. By maximising every potential revenue stream (which is what Cortese is doing), through the additional charges (and I suspect every contact we have with the club), ultimately its safeguarding our future for when Markus & Nicola move on. When they leave, I think they will leave a club that is not relying on Markus' money or various loans to keep us going. The next owners will inherit a sound/successful business and for that I feel thankful rather than shafted.

 

If other clubs approached its finances the way Cortese does, I think many would be better positioned. Yes, we will at times think we are on an Easyjet flight, but its one going to a brilliant destination.

[the saint in winchester]

^^^ I took my first Easyjet flight this year, with some trepidation after years of Airline (tv prog) and hearsay rumours. Gotta say - it was great. Flight on time, no pushing and shoving for seats, attractive stewardesses. What more could you want?

 

Anything else you'd like a review of?

[Torres]

^^^ I took my first Easyjet flight this year, with some trepidation after years of Airline (tv prog) and hearsay rumours. Gotta say - it was great. Flight on time, no pushing and shoving for seats, attractive stewardesses. What more could you want?

 

Anything else you'd like a review of?

 

A BJ from a tramp?

[Bucks Saint]

Breaking news. Still nothing on OS.

 

 

Skacel signed quicker than this

[benjii]

I forgot to post the email reply I got from the ticket office - apologies.

 

*Drum Roll*......

 

Details will be announced when they are available.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

I've just emailed the ticket office asking when membership details are going to be released.

 

Will let you know what I hear.

 

No response?

 

There's a surprise.

 

Edit: Just seen your reply. Hahahaha - Predictable.

[Turkish]

I dont understand why people are *****ing about memberships now when paying a tenner for them a season was okay in the PL.

[alehouseboys]

I dont understand why people are *****ing about memberships now when paying a tenner for them a season was okay in the PL.

 

I can't believe people really are "*****ing" about memberships being a tenner as they aint announced those details yet...and wasn't it £15 a couple of years back?

 

If it is just a tenner I'd be surprised.

[Bucks Saint]

Still nada from the club. hmmm. 16 days to go

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Still nada from the club. hmmm. 16 days to go

 

And they are whacking away tickets straight onto general sale for the MK Dons game it seems, so my theory about the memberships being for away games seems wrong.

 

Who'd be a season ticket holder eh? ;-)

[Fan The Flames]

Who'd be a season ticket holder eh? ;-)

 

People who want the convienience of buying tickets for all the league matches in one go and to be assured the same seat all season.

[Third Division South Days]

People who want the convienience of buying tickets for all the league matches in one go and to be assured the same seat all season.

 

Don't forget the saving on the match day price and booking fees.

[Dave Benson Phillips]

Oh, hang on a minute... I was rubbished when I suggested the 2 examples above!