England V Algeria

[SuperMikey]

Today was summed up in two moments.

 

First - when Gerrard squared it for nobody on 55 minutes. if he is playing for Liverpool he would have buried that. But because he doesn't feel he needs to carry the team and take the extra risk, run the extra yard - he didn't bother. He just passed on the responsibility out of fear, or because he can't be bothered.

 

Second - Capello subbing SWP on for Lennon. That's right, take off our most dangerous player who actually did offer something different or bring on a sack of sh*t that shouldn't have even been on the plane. If we don't beat Slovenia, don't be surprised if he gets the sack.

 

He won't be sacked, he was umm-ing and ahh-ing about signing a contract extension to give him another year after the WC but I believe there's a clause in his contract that enables him to leave if England don't get past the Quarter Finals.

As for the team for Slovenia, i'd still pick the team I posted up earlier with a few minor changes:

 

-----------------Hart-----------------

Johnson----Terry----Dawson----A.Cole

Lennon-----Barry----Carrick-----J.Cole

----------------Gerrard----------------

----------------Rooney----------------

 

It's a toss-up between Lennon and Milner for the RM slot, but I think Lennon did enough today to justify his place in the starting lineup for Wednesday. The rest of the team really need to get their act together though, won't look good on their footballing CV if they were part of the England team touted as one of the big favourites before the tournament but went out in a group containing Slovenia, Algeria and the USA. I don't even support England and i'm getting angry about it FFS!

[Badger]

We need to give the "big players" a right kick up the ass. Drop terry, lampard, Rooney, heskey, and whatshisface on the right.

 

Bring in Dawson, cole, Defoe, and crouch.

 

Out of necessity he will probably play on Wednesday.

[Whitey Grandad]

Rooney and "Nice to see your fan's booing you". what a pompous ***t - Earn your money then if you expect to have people cheering you

 

If you like the cheers then you must take the jeers.

[stevegrant]

is all I have to say, really...

[Badger]

He won't be sacked, he was umm-ing and ahh-ing about signing a contract extension to give him another year after the WC but I believe there's a clause in his contract that enables him to leave if England don't get past the Quarter Finals.

As for the team for Slovenia, i'd still pick the team I posted up earlier with a few minor changes:

 

-----------------Hart-----------------

Johnson----Terry----Dawson----A.Cole

Lennon-----Barry----Carrick-----J.Cole

----------------Gerrard----------------

----------------Rooney----------------

 

 

I would not include Rooney in the next game based on tonights performance.

 

Unless we progress into the knock out stages,I do not expect Capello to remain.

[K,Billy's supersound]

for me next game starting 11

 

gk hart

lb a.cole

cb dawson

cb terrry

rm swp

lm lennon

cm barry

cm j.cole

cf crouch

cf defoe

[Badger]

One major problem is that the three 'Billy-Big-B0ll0cks' (Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard) don't want to be team players. They're basically selfish .

 

Agreed.

[badgerx16]

Can somebody please crock Heskey in training, just to ensure Capello can't be tempted, even for a moment, to consider him for the rest of the tournament

[skintsaint]

Defoe should start, made a difference to our attack in the last 15 or so mins.

 

Anyway im off to bed its 5am...

 

Sigh...England never ever make things easy and its why we will hump Slovenia about 3 or 4 nil...Then we will be world beaters again

[K,Billy's supersound]

ok i'll play a RB aswell i suppose and go for g.johnson

[S-Clarke]

I will bet your money that the team will be -

 

James

 

Johnson - Upson - Terry - Cole

 

Lennon - Barry - Lampard - Gerrard

 

Defoe - Rooney

 

i just think Capello is too stubborn to make radical changes.

[teamsaint]

Reckon that is about right.

Might not be the worlds best, but might have some idea of how to win a game.

Defoe at least did a few bits and pieces, and Crouchie is always a threat.Gerradd was poor but at least gave it a go.

What exactly it is that lampard adds to the team has been a mystery for a long time.

What BWP is doing out there is also a mystery. I assume it IS bradley??

 

 

 

Have we all been fooled by a fairly easy qualifying group?

 

And in case it carries on on weds, what is Italian for "turnip head"?

[saint_bert]

Rooneys comments sum up the England team for me.

 

I could spout an in depth, articulate post but il say it how I see it.

 

Bunch of c*nts the lot of them

[Northernsaint]

The thing with lampard, gerrard Rooney et al is that they play with bloody good team mates, it's just that they're not English.

 

They're made to look better than they actually are.

 

That my friend has hit the nail right on the head. Where would rooney have been this season without Valencia/nani/scholes. Bet ****ing scholes wishes he had answered capellos call

[St Landrew]

Didn't watch the match because I had some fresh paint to witness going off. Should I have a go at the highlights, or are there any worth watching..?

[SuperMikey]

I would not include Rooney in the next game based on tonights performance.

 

Unless we progress into the knock out stages,I do not expect Capello to remain.

 

Everyone was sh1t tonight, if England put out a B-team then they will lose. Rooney is the star player, and he needs to prove himself by scoring against Slovenia.

[S-Clarke]

Didn't watch the match because I had some fresh paint to witness going off. Should I have a go at the highlights, or are there any worth watching..?

 

Sounds like you had a more entertaining night than the rest of us

[harvey]

At half time Rooney & Heskey should have been replaced by Defoe & Crouch............we were flucking useless.....................and still are atm.

[Ponty]

Bet ****ing scholes wishes he had answered capellos call

 

I bet he's ****ing glad he didn't.

[Cestrian Saint]

My starting 11 before the tournament began would have been...

 

Hart

Johnson

Terry

Dawson

A. Cole

Lennon

Lampard

Barry

J. Cole

Gerrard

Rooney

 

It's still the side I'd like to see Fabio have the ******** to play. 18 months ago I really thought he would bring change to the England team. All I see is a man whose lost his bottle and gone for the safe option.

His treatment of Robert Green is disgraceful. How many premiership managers drop their keeper for making one mistake?... None! All keepers make mistakes. David James didn't earn the nickname 'Calamity' without good reason.

Joe Hart is obviously the future England keeper, so why not put him in now so that he can make the place his own for the next 10-15 years?

We look like a different side when Joe Cole plays. I don't understand why Capello has ignored him so far.

Rooney has said he'd rather play up front on his own with Gerrard behind him, so why not do it?

 

Capello's big mistake was not taking Theo. At least he would have given us something different when things were not going our way. All we've got is players who are too similar.

Edited 18 June, 2010 by Cestrian Saint

[RonManager]

Well, that was somewhat lacking in basic footballing ability.

 

Better luck next time, eh?

[Kingsbridge Saint]

Is Rooney growing a beard?

[S-Clarke]

 

Capello's big mistake was not taking Theo. At least he would have given us something different when things were not going our way. All we've got is players who are too similar.

 

Not sure tbh, i think it would be asking for trouble adding another out of form player who's lacking confidence.

 

Theo needs a year of regular football before he should play international football again.

[Micky]

Well following the USA game it was good to see that Rooney backed up all his 'posturing' in the press about 'now is the time to deliver', 'the players are raring to go' etc, etc with a really world class performance. Aaahhhhh maybe not then. You would have thought by now that we would have learned to stay 'low profile' when it comes to major tournaments. I know that we English like to think that we are the best at everything, but the reality is we are pretty mediocre. Personally I'm soooo pleased that we played Algeria tonight - it could have been Brazil or Argentina, and that would have been embarrasing.

 

I think the kindest thing now would be to go out with a wimper in the final game - it could actually turn out to be a blessing in disquise, let's face it, we really don't want this shower of shyte coming up against the 'big guns', we would get slaughtered.

[Tractor_Saint]

Bunch of c*nts the lot of them

 

+1 but you missed out the important word

 

OVERPAID

Edited 18 June, 2010 by Tractor_Saint

[Surman4no7shirt]

Heskey is in our starting line up. Did anyone really think we were going to do well?

[surrey1saint]

Terrible ,very painful to watch.

 

I don't think any of the players exactly played well tonight.Maybe Cole & Defoe when he came on were approaching acceptable.

[Tractor_Saint]

Didn't watch the match because I had some fresh paint to witness going off. Should I have a go at the highlights, or are there any worth watching..?

 

Suggest you paint another coat tonight before bed. HTH

[SuperMikey]

Suggest you paint another coat tonight before bed. HTH

 

Are you implying that watching paint dry is more exciting than what happens in Landy's bed?

[hackedoff]

Yes as he always is, but expect him to be in the team again next game. If that,s the best English football can put out, god help us.

[Tractor_Saint]

Are you implying that watching paint dry is more exciting than what happens in Landy's bed?

 

Sat in a pub with Landy's missus and she seems a little worried about what's going to be on her walls tonight when she gets back.

 

Anyhow, back to the footy?

[Saintandy666]

We have the players, we have the skill... but where's the passion. None of it, we could take a leaf or two from North Korea. We are ****ing embarrassment. Overpaid pieces of ****. Somehow it is still in our hands, but **** knows how. Heskey is pile of crap, Rooney played ****, but to be fair had no service. But omg, we need to improve and fast for Slovenia. And Capello, £6m a year. **** OFF.

[Saints foreva]

Heskey done so much more than Rooney tonight.

 

Drop Rooney please Capello. Arrogant ****.

[Saints Mad Si]

I appreciate everyone is as pi**ed of as me at this performance but one win will take us into the last sixteen! EASY EASY!!...........................to be fair I dont think we will get much further than that!

[Tractor_Saint]

but one win will take us into the last sixteen! EASY EASY!!...............

 

 

Um, but isn't the case we now need to win the next game or we're out? Before the start of this competition didn't we think we'd beat USA and Algeria by loads... Ah, OK, all we need to do is win the next game - it's a dead cert

[Micky]

I appreciate everyone is as pi**ed of as me at this performance but one win will take us into the last sixteen! EASY EASY!!...........................to be fair I dont think we will get much further than that!

 

Errrr that is precisely the problem - if we can't mix it with these guys can you imagine the mullering we'd get from the form teams...!

[S-Clarke]

I appreciate everyone is as pi**ed of as me at this performance but one win will take us into the last sixteen! EASY EASY!!...........................to be fair I dont think we will get much further than that!

 

we'll be lucky to get a draw if we play like that.

[harvey]

Tbh, I think that Capello could have picked 11 players from the 'championship', who would of done better tonight.

 

England players are totally over rated and being found out yet again.............we really aren't as good as some people think we are.

 

Tonight was emmbarassing.

[Nexstar]

Wayne Rooney: "England can beat Algeria even when playing badly"

 

England play badly and do not win.

 

Wayne Rooney: "Nice to hear the home fans booing"

 

What. A. *****.

[sandwichsaint]

Hart

 

(RB, haven't got one, play Milner)

Dawson

Terry

A Cole

 

Lennon

Gerrard

Barry

J Cole

 

Crouch

Defoe

 

Tonight was a fecking embarressment - Rooney has not been fit for the last 4 games; I'd be very interested in Fergie's thoughts watching him push himself out of the first three months of next season.

[dubai_phil]

Well luckily for us we decided to go to Rock Bottom tonight. After 5,972 Bullfrogs, 8,463 Flaming Lamboughinis and a I have no idea how many Jaeger Bombs & Kava Shots all I can remember was us being Karp again and my fecking Daughter beating me into 2nd place in the Karaoke Competition, but at least I beat Dirty Sanchez into 2nd place.

 

Still not knocked out, still could top the group and still incredibly unlikely.

 

Again, the Al Jazeera signal got hacked and we missed getting on for 1/3rd of the game with only NO SIGNAL to keep us entertained - luckliy I stepped in with my Buggles impression

[Micky]

Well Phil, you had a much more enjoyable and productive night than the rest of us did. Karaoke = wannabe pop stars, 'Rooney, Heskey, Lampard et el' = wannabe footballers. We're doooomed I tell ya.....

[so22saint]

Romney, ****. End of

[hypochondriac]

Have hated Rooney for ages and said so a couple of months back only to be shouted down on here. Utter w*nker who is removed from reality. Was one of if not the worst England player tonight. If we don't play Joe Cole against Slovenia then I give up.

[sadoldgit]

Rooney doesn't look look fit or worth his place in the side. The rest look like frightened rabbits. Heskey should not be there. Don't mess around with light weights like Lennon or Wright Phillips. Play Joe Cole. Change the system.

[scotty]

That my friend has hit the nail right on the head. Where would rooney have been this season without Valencia/nani/scholes. Bet ****ing scholes wishes he had answered capellos call

 

I bet he doesnt.

[scotty]

we looked like a bunch of f*cking amateurs tonight. Every time we got the ball we either looked like losing it, or not having the slightest f*cking clue what to do with it. Almost every time algeria got it they knew what to do and where to go with it. And they knew enough to pressure us in order to get the ball, wtf were we doing in that respect? That was men against boys, we were pathetic, I cant think of a single positive. If we play (play!!!) like that against slovenia we will be out on our *rses.

[wild-saint]

i appreciate this is the world cup. i appreciate that its the best players in the world. i appeciate that the players were under a ot of pessure to perform tonight.

 

however i hosesty believe the current starting saints 11 would under the same circumstances and pressure taken algeria apart tonight in what was essentaillt a home game.

[saint_stevo]

complete bull. Rubbish. Rooney looked terrible and moaning like a ***** about getting booed after the game doesn't endear you any Shrek boy. Should be dropped, and we should go with the Spurs boys in the next game. Not the time for 4-5-1 IMO, we need to win. 4-4-2 again but with the correct personnel.

 

How bad is SWP. How negative was Lennon. How slow is Carragher. How nervous did James look. How lost was Gerrard. Pathetic.

 

Anyone who says Joe Cole is better than Lampard is an utter spunkmonkey as well, Lamps not great in an England shirt, but still twice the player Joe Cole is.

 

Fabio has lost the plot. Why do i look forward to this utter utter dross

[SaintNeil90]

Why play 4-4-2 when it clearly doesn't work. When we played 4-5-1 (More like a 4-3-2-1, see below) against Croatia in the qualifiers I finally thought we had a manager with new ideas and a team that was responding to him in a positive way. In my eyes the team that would give us a performance is this:

 

...................................Hart..................................

Johnson............Terry............Dawson............A.Cole

Lennon......................Barry...........................J.Cole

.................Lampard................Gerrard...................

................................Rooney.................................