Vuvuzelas at SMS?

[Saint in Paradise]

IMHO they are only used by the mentally challenged portion of society. On a par with people who won't bring back capital punishment.

[patred44]

IMHO they are only used by the mentally challenged portion of society. On a par with people who won't bring back capital punishment.

 

and fly England flags on their cars...

[Doctoroncall]

Keep them at the World Cup.

 

The Hear the World Foundation has declared the vuvuzela as the loudest of all fan instruments and that it can cause personal hearing loss.

 

Tests conducted in a sound-proof studio found the vuvuzela emitted 127 decibels, more than the air horn - 123.5 - and Brazil's samba drums. A referee's whistle was fourth while the cowbell trailed at 114.9. "To put it in perspective, when a sound is increased by 10 decibels our ears perceive it as being twice as loud, so we would consider the vuvuzela to be more than double the volume of the cowbell."

[Doctoroncall]

...And before anyone says, 'but its there culture', how long have these plastic trumpets really been around? It's much more the African culture to sing and dance.

 

They have been around in South African football since the late 1990's.

[hughieslastminutegoal]

What a stupid thread. I voted they sound great.

What a stupid thread you say? And then you voted? Are you sure it's the thread that's stupid?

[Tomobz]

Maraddona likes them apparently

 

 

hahaha!

[Block 5]

I am forming the Vuvuzela Orchestra of Great Britain (Southampton Provisional Wing).

 

We will be touring ST Mary's on matchdays next season.

[jjsaint]

Hate them. They're ruining the atmosphere of the World Cup IMO.

[hughieslastminutegoal]

I am forming the Vuvuzela Orchestra of Great Britain (Southampton Provisional Wing).

 

We will be touring ST Mary's on matchdays next season.

 

 

Apparently the music for them is written in binary - you either play it.. or you don't.

 

Now the ambitious players might want to open with Yves Klein's 1949 Monotone Symphony (formally The Monotone-Silence Symphony) an orchestral 40-minute piece whose first movement is an unvarying 20-minute drone and the second and last movement a 20-minute silence.

 

But purists like me would certainly favour John Cage's 4′33″ , a three-movement composition composed in 1952, and the score instructs the performer not to play the instrument during the entire duration of the piece throughout the three movements. OK so it's a solo piece, but I think it could be adapted for an orchestra of these ingenious plastic trumpets, almost as versatile as the alpine horn.

 

As to whether it's a suitable "instrument" for football supporters, Wikepedia says that in such minimalistic music "there is little sense of goal-directed motion". Well on second thoughts, maybe that does fairly relect much of the round one games so far.

[70's Mike]

What position does Vuvuzela play?

 

Arry HAS just tried to sign hin

[MorningtonCrescent]

Might as well have an empty stadium as nobody will be able to tell the supporters apart. Just a monotonous drone. It could do away with home advantage if the supporters aren't heard.

 

Good idea - away matches only then! ;-)

[Iowsaintsfan]

browse this site by clicking the link..and stay for a while...then answer the OP

 

http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.saintsweb.co.uk/

 

 

Oh dear god!!!

[saintjay77]

NO!

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

They have made significant contribution to a boring and unispiring World Cup so far. They drown out that proper football atmosphere. That's what happens when you choose a country to host the world cup that rates other sports in higher regard then football. Only a country that has football as there number 1 national sport should be allowed to host a world cup IMO.

[Patrick Bateman]

No, they sound awful. However I see some of the SmS wig-wearers loving the idea, gah!

[hutch]

They have been around in South African football since the late 1990's.

TBF, football's only really been around in South Africa since the early 1990's. It's an overwhelmingly black-supported sport here, and a very, very, very long way behind rugby & cricket to the whites, and was therefore pretty much off the radar until the political changes.

[Seany S]

To be honest I would rather listen to someone blowing a crazy African wind instrument than listen to some of the amoebic-dysentery that spews out of the bloke who sits near me at SMS. "ALWAYS play the f**king SQUARE BALL!" - was one of his gems, screamed at random during an innocuous passage of play.

 

Oh, and I prefer the sound of the vuvuzela to those supporters band bastards finding ever more new and annoying ways of playing "The Great Escape" and "Self Preservation Society" ad *****-ing nauseam.

[Seany S]

LOL the swear filter edited out "m_inge" but allowed "bastard".

[Ken Tone]

It looks as if South Africa will be the first home nation ever to go out at the group stage of a World Cup, even though there have been some pretty rubbish home teams...arguably worse than S.Africa.

 

Why is that? Maybe it's because there is no real home advantage when no one can bloody well tell who the crowd are supporting. The constant drone of these oversized kazoos gives as much 'support' or lack of it to the away team as it does to the home one.

 

I realise that most of those saying yes to them are merely trolling, but even so, bring them into British football and I stop going.

 

I could of course sit at home instead by a silent DVD of old Saints games with 2 smoke alarms and 3 alarm clocks going off around me to get the authentic football experience cheaper, but more likely I'll take up bowls ... it'll have more atmosphere!

 

K.

 

K.

[Block 5]

lol at the Kingsland fuddy duddies on this thread.

[lambertsrightleg]

has nobody realised how there's been no atmosphere at any of these games because of these ****ing horns. ridiculous

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Last time I went to Vuvuzela, everyone was playing their Caracas.

[St Marco]

I pretty much agree with what adrian just said.

 

I understand the whole "It is their world cup, let them do it their way" thing as that is fair enough. We would not like it if say someone stopped us singing Britannia with the trumpet/drum etc..

But the difference is as others said the point of instruments in these places is to spur on your team to play well and win. These horns have zero effect on that. If there were no horns for 80mins and a team were losing 1-0 and some people started to blow those horns how does it install confidence to the team? Doing it before the game has started until the game has ended makes them pointless.

 

Thus far i am dissapointed in the way the World Cup has been done in SA. It feels very second rate and that is largely down to these horns. The pace is very slow because these things just drain your energy. I thought Africa was known for it's collective singing? For it's culture? How is Vuvuzelas connected to their culture? If it had some symbolic point then i would agree with it, but it doesn't seem to have that, it's purpose seems to be just make as much noise as possible. In that case why not just get some huge speakers and play some bee buzzing sounds really loud...

[martel]

Stick them right up

ruins the atmosphere at games, world cup games used to show the individual countries level of support, this one every game is the same

 

I agree completly, preferbably they stick them right up blunt end first; they should have been banned altogether, lets hope the English supporters band can be heard today.

[badgerx16]

One thing's for certain, they dare not allow them at Nottarf, it would be like the walls of Jericho !

[saint_stevo]

:vuvu:

[Block 5]

Stevo, you are formally invited to join the Vuvuzela Orchestra of Great Britain (Southampton Provisional Wing).

[Ken Tone]

It's such a shame that the first African world cup has been ruined as an international television event by this. Just think how moving it would have been to hear 80,000 south African fans signing their anthem, Nkosi Sikelel' iAfrika, during a game.

 

K.

PS BBC red button allows just-about-synchronised transmission of the radio 5 commentary, which seems to have the commentators' voices louder in relation to the background buzz, compared to the main tv commentary. It's marginally better IMO

[paulwantsapint]

Discuss with KD if it would help or hinder his goal keeping

Also discuss with RL & co if it will help or hinder attacking

Then work out if SMS needs them behind the goals any slight advantage is good for us

[Ziggy]

They have been banned from stadiums in Cardiff.

[Saints Warrior]

Great idea if your near the front to put off away keeper

[Denzil]

I'm defo going to get one. SMS will be proper intimidating.

[Block 5]

LOL at everyone who think they know how a world cup should sound.

You arrogant fools.

[farawaysaint]

I like them, welcome to Africa where hearing is optional.

[Window Cleaner]

if you want to re-introduce formless, amelodic noise to football grounds again why not bring back the old fashioned wooden rattle,I'm sure they could be fashioned our of kevlar nowadays to make them indestructible.

[Jimmy_D]

Don't think they'd be good at home matches... But to drown out the home crowd at an away match...

[hasper57saint]

Defence! OVER THE BLOODY fence!!!

[ottery st mary]

Ban the blooooody things..

 

If Saints really cared for their fans..They would issue each supporter with a Clarinet...Much better sound for home games.

[SaintRobbie]