Saints Trust call for talks

[StuRomseySaint]

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[Daren W]

Here, Here.

 

There is no trust, I have no faith in an unelected, unaccountable person speaking on MY behalf. I would prefer my own figurehead, from this board.

 

Would I do it?: YES

Should I do it?: NO. I would not put myself in the running as I couldn't give it the attention it deserves, basically because I do a demanding job, (steady now, all you construction types.) but beacuse mostly I don't work in the county, let alone the city.

 

But I will support whoever we chooes

 

And it will never ever work. You will get someone saying, "Well he/she doesn't speak for me" and the whole thing will descend into farce, not because it's a bad idea but you will always get someone who will resent it and shout them down.

 

Look at this thread alone, two distinct groups arguing hammer and tongs about a problem that really should be as black and white as they come.

 

The club has torn up it's own fans charter and given fans no warning whatsoever that the previously promised installment plans and half season tickets would be stopped.

 

No warning at all. That is the issue here...

 

For all the smug smartarses who seem to think those people who can't magic £350 out of their backsides are somehow "bad with money" or "living beyond ther means" I sincerely hope that the club do something within the next 12 months that riles and you upsets you so we can all laugh at your expense. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's not a valid issue.

 

Me, I'm good with my money, budget well, save well and have no money problems at all. I save money each month for shares, isas and a "rainy day" fund. The rainy day money is my spending money for my holiday in Turkey otherwise I'd use it on buying my season ticket. I will be going game by game, wanted a season ticket but with a holiday this month and paying off my credit card in July I cannot justify the large payment in one go. I'm not overly worried about it, am happy to pay more for my ticket but can see the underlying issue here. The club has torn up it's own charter and then had the nerve to tell fans, "Well that was last years charter" as if having their ethics are liable to change at short notice.

 

I object to the smug assholes on here who seem to think they are more deserving of a season ticket because they have a credit card and other don't and that if you can't afford to pay a lump sum in one go you're somehow a lesser person for it. Those people who are not getting season tickets aren't poor or bad with money, they are simply people who do budget, who do count the pennies but in and around that budgeting they were told, by the club, that an established payment method would be kept and were subsequently lied to.

 

That is the issue here not the making arrogant assumptions about people's fianances...

[shurlock]

And it will never ever work. You will get someone saying, "Well he/she doesn't speak for me" and the whole thing will descend into farce, not because it's a bad idea but you will always get someone who will resent it and shout them down.

 

Look at this thread alone, two distinct groups arguing hammer and tongs about a problem that really should be as black and white as they come.

 

The club has torn up it's own fans charter and given fans no warning whatsoever that the previously promised installment plans and half season tickets would be stopped.

 

No warning at all. That is the issue here...

 

For all the smug smartarses who seem to think those people who can't magic £350 out of their backsides are somehow "bad with money" or "living beyond ther means" I sincerely hope that the club do something within the next 12 months that riles and you upsets you so we can all laugh at your expense. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's not a valid issue.

 

Me, I'm good with my money, budget well, save well and have no money problems at all. I save money each month for shares, isas and a "rainy day" fund. The rainy day money is my spending money for my holiday in Turkey otherwise I'd use it on buying my season ticket. I will be going game by game, wanted a season ticket but with a holiday this month and paying off my credit card in July I cannot justify the large payment in one go. I'm not overly worried about it, am happy to pay more for my ticket but can see the underlying issue here. The club has torn up it's own charter and then had the nerve to tell fans, "Well that was last years charter" as if having their ethics are liable to change at short notice.

 

I object to the smug assholes on here who seem to think they are more deserving of a season ticket because they have a credit card and other don't and that if you can't afford to pay a lump sum in one go you're somehow a lesser person for it. Those people who are not getting season tickets aren't poor or bad with money, they are simply people who do budget, who do count the pennies but in and around that budgeting they were told, by the club, that an established payment method would be kept and were subsequently lied to.

 

That is the issue here not the making arrogant assumptions about people's fianances...

 

 

Yeh or can't spot loan sharks a mile away

[Turkish]

Did it genuinely say that?! F'king hell...

 

Yep, genuine, page 52 of todays echo, paragraph 5.

[StuRomseySaint]

Do you ever do any work? If you spent a bit more time selling stuff, which i believe is your job, instead of arsing about on here and collecting data on championship seasonticket prices then you might not have to worry so much about installment plans. :yawinkle:

 

I can't talk to you at the moment. I am busy sorting out my fantasy world cup team before I finish work at 16:30 :-)

[StuRomseySaint]

Yep, genuine, page 52 of todays echo, paragraph 5.

 

 

That is funneh.

[trousers]

 

A number of people on here ( including yourself ) seem to have no other agenda than disagreeing

 

I actually think that's a valid perception of me. I do admit that I have a tendancy to come across as a devil's advocate sometimes but I put that down to being someone who tends to see both sides of a debate and therefore more often than not ends up articulating the other side of the coin.

 

I don't believe I've ever said anywhere that your view on season ticket installments is in anyway invalid and have agreed with you on areas such as Saints Trust and Silverspoons in recent times.

 

Apologies for rubbing you up the wrong way - not intended

[The Kraken]

And it will never ever work. You will get someone saying, "Well he/she doesn't speak for me" and the whole thing will descend into farce, not because it's a bad idea but you will always get someone who will resent it and shout them down.

 

Look at this thread alone, two distinct groups arguing hammer and tongs about a problem that really should be as black and white as they come.

 

The club has torn up it's own fans charter and given fans no warning whatsoever that the previously promised installment plans and half season tickets would be stopped.

 

No warning at all. That is the issue here...

 

For all the smug smartarses who seem to think those people who can't magic £350 out of their backsides are somehow "bad with money" or "living beyond ther means" I sincerely hope that the club do something within the next 12 months that riles and you upsets you so we can all laugh at your expense. Just because it doesn't affect you doesn't mean it's not a valid issue.

 

Me, I'm good with my money, budget well, save well and have no money problems at all. I save money each month for shares, isas and a "rainy day" fund. The rainy day money is my spending money for my holiday in Turkey otherwise I'd use it on buying my season ticket. I will be going game by game, wanted a season ticket but with a holiday this month and paying off my credit card in July I cannot justify the large payment in one go. I'm not overly worried about it, am happy to pay more for my ticket but can see the underlying issue here. The club has torn up it's own charter and then had the nerve to tell fans, "Well that was last years charter" as if having their ethics are liable to change at short notice.

 

I object to the smug assholes on here who seem to think they are more deserving of a season ticket because they have a credit card and other don't and that if you can't afford to pay a lump sum in one go you're somehow a lesser person for it. Those people who are not getting season tickets aren't poor or bad with money, they are simply people who do budget, who do count the pennies but in and around that budgeting they were told, by the club, that an established payment method would be kept and were subsequently lied to.

 

That is the issue here not the making arrogant assumptions about people's fianances...

 

It all depends on who the "elected" person is as to whether it would work or not.

 

When making press comments Illingsworth very rarely expresses his views as just his own, and McFeat is even more forthright in proclaiming what the entire Trust are feeling at any given time. Quite how they would know is anyone's guess but there they are speaking apparently for close on 1000 members

 

However, without wishing to shine a light up his @rse, Steve Grant's comments in the Echo always seem to come across as very balanced, and are usually expressed as a personal view even though he appears in print as a moderator of the forum. Whether Steve would actually want the role of forum spokesman is another matter altogether, but I for one would welcome it in place of the current arrangement of rent-a-quotes who claim to speak for all their members but in actuality only speak for themselves.

 

I think the role can work, but the spokesperson has to ensure that they do not try to suggest what the majority of forum members are thinking, but simply raise a concern that a sizeable amount of people have raised certain objections to something. You'll never get a common consensus on anything and therefore should never claim to do so. But a comment along the lines of "a large number of people have, through the forum, expressed sincere disappointment at the lack of consultancy and notice prior to the announcement by the club to scrap the payment plan" is factual and should offend no-one.

[Thedelldays]

I think you guys should put me forward as the SWF rep..

 

I would "unite" the fan base

[Turkish]

They should let me do it, i'll tell the f****** echo how it is.

[buctootim]

Can you imagine an elected SWF board of Scooby, Ninteen Canteen, St Robbie, Dune and Wiltshire Saint? We'd be screaming for the Saints Trust to come back.

[rocknrollman no2]

Where was the Saints Trust when it looked like the club was going out of exsistance?Not a single word was said by the trust.

Although i agree with questions being asked about why the installment plan was suddenly stopped,i dont think it should be asked by the Trust.

Also i think Stu makes a very valid point about a few posters on here.I for one would love to see a full St Marys everyweek and if it takes a percentage of the fans to pay via the installment plan to achieve this,then so be it.

[Kaiser Soze]

Why does Nick get so much slack? Decent fella IMO.