Football League Annual meeting in Malta 6th June - 8th June 2010

[Matthew Le God]

Outcomes of the Football Leagues annual meeting held this year in Malta...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8729294.stm

 

Some interesting implications for Saints

 

England's Football League clubs have agreed new rules on the number of "home-grown" players in their squads.

 

From next season, clubs will have to name 10 "home-grown" players in a squad restricted to 25 players aged over 21.

 

To qualify, players must be registered in domestic football for three seasons before turning 21.

 

However, a proposal by Leyton Orient to relegate clubs two divisions for going into administration was rejected at the League's Annual General Meeting.

 

But following the meeting of the 72 clubs in Malta, League chiefs will review the punishments for administration to see if they need toughening up.

 

Other rule changes include clubs, who will be able to include as many players under the age of 21 in their squads as they like, being hit with a transfer embargo if they do not file their financial accounts in time.

 

The League's fit and proper persons' test has also been re-titled the 'Director's Test' to fall in line with the other football bodies.

 

And a loophole has been closed so that clubs that go into administration are hit with sporting sanctions even when the club is part of a group company.

 

Football League chairman Greg Clarke said: "This has been a positive and constructive meeting at which we've looked at many of the important issues currently facing football and taken steps to address a number of the most pressing governance concerns."

[Thedelldays]

i see the second point from the bottom familiar to us..

[StuRomseySaint]

Explains why Nicky hasn't replied to my email. :-(

[SuperMikey]

WTF is that Leyton Orient chairman on - weren't they in admin not long ago? Crazy mofo.

Aside from that, some good points brought up from that meeting, and the Home Grown players rule ought to stop players from just buying up loads of foreign talent. Next step - introduce it to the Premier League!

[dune]

From next season, clubs will have to name 10 "home-grown" players in a squad restricted to 25 players aged over 21.

 

=D>

[StuRomseySaint]

From next season, clubs will have to name 10 "home-grown" players in a squad restricted to 25 players aged over 21.

 

=D>

 

I assume that 'next' season means 2011/2012 , I am sure Nicola Cortese wouldn't like being given such short notice for something like this. :shock:

[IFHP]

I assume that 'next' season means 2011/2012 , I wouldn't like being given such short notice for something like this. :shock:

 

I'm sure you ment to say that.

[Saint Fan CaM]

Nothing about regulating the salaries of a given squad though, which would have sorted out a lot of issues in the game and possibly assisted in making football matches more accessible to the lower paid and thus increasing gates.

[Matthew Le God]

I assume that 'next' season means 2011/2012 , I am sure Nicola Cortese wouldn't like being given such short notice for something like this. :shock:

 

It isn't difficult for Saints.

 

Only these players don't qualify...

 

Jose Fonte

Radhi Jaidi

Morgan Schneiderlin (though I think he will once he registers this season as that would be 3 seasons before turning 21)

Edited 8 June, 2010 by Matthew Le God

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Might explain why we've not confirmed any signings yet. See what rules are ratified, identify the players who fit the criteria and then spend like money's going out of fashion. (Please?)

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

Also, I hope they implement the tougher sanctions before the Skates try to exit admin so they can have the privilege of being the first team punished.

[alpine_saint]

i see the second point from the bottom familiar to us..

 

If it was a loophole that needs closing, how come we were punished ?

 

This is tacit admission that we were not in technical violation of the rule, and the League shifted the goalposts.

[Ponty]

I agree, Alps.

 

I'm going for a lie down.

[Thedelldays]

If it was a loophole that needs closing, how come we were punished ?

 

This is tacit admission that we were not in technical violation of the rule, and the League shifted the goalposts.

 

 

the way I get it was that, we agreed to the 10 point penalty and they agreed to leave it at that..?

 

maybe they could have done us for more..

 

who knows, but done and dusted now

[SO16_Saint]

i dont know, and assume not (because 70 odd people havent questioned it) but is it not against some european freedom of employment law to impose quotas like this?

[alpine_saint]

the way I get it was that, we agreed to the 10 point penalty and they agreed to leave it at that..?

 

maybe they could have done us for more..

 

who knows, but done and dusted now

 

Its as classic a case of "its my ball and I'm taking it home if you dont do what I say" as there is....

[Thedelldays]

Its as classic a case of "its my ball and I'm taking it home if you dont do what I say" as there is....

infact, that is exactly what the league is..

 

not many of us protested when we were one of the founder members of the premier league...we took our ball and played a new game then

[dan17]

If it was a loophole that needs closing, how come we were punished ?

 

This is tacit admission that we were not in technical violation of the rule, and the League shifted the goalposts.

 

You certainly have a point there!...

[Turkish]

Just out of interest why did they need to go to Malta? Are we to assume that this was actually 3 days of FL chairman on the ****? It is if any of the "seminars" in my industry are to go by. Most of these points were probably made when everyone was ****ed or massively hungover.

[Colinjb]

Just out of interest why did they need to go to Malta? Are we to assume that this was actually 3 days of FL chairman on the ****? It is if any of the "seminars" in my industry are to go by. Most of these points were probably made when everyone was ****ed or massively hungover.

 

Sun, Sea and Seafood.

 

They have good taste those chairmen. Hope Nicola filled his boots.

[Pat from Poole]

WTF is that Leyton Orient chairman on - weren't they in admin not long ago? Crazy mofo.

Aside from that, some good points brought up from that meeting, and the Home Grown players rule ought to stop players from just buying up loads of foreign talent. Next step - introduce it to the Premier League!

 

 

Barry Hearn is a cooont, as Stu might say.

[Saint_clark]

"However, a proposal by Leyton Orient to relegate clubs two divisions for going into administration was rejected at the League's Annual General Meeting."

 

F*ck off Barry Hearn, in other words.

[Jonnyboy]

If it was a loophole that needs closing, how come we were punished ?

 

This is tacit admission that we were not in technical violation of the rule, and the League shifted the goalposts.

 

good point

[trousers]

If it was a loophole that needs closing, how come we were punished ?

 

This is tacit admission that we were not in technical violation of the rule, and the League shifted the goalposts.

 

Yep, I highlighted this 'admission' on another thread earlier this afternoon.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=751617#post751617

 

It 'proves' that SFC would have successfully won any legal challenge that they launched against this. Hence Tony Lynham/Pinnacle/MLT sticking by their guns at the time and the Football League insisting that the club signed away their right to challenge them.

 

Would have been interesting in one respect to have seen what would have happened if the new owners hadn't signed away their rights on this one....

[Deano6]

And a loophole has been closed so that clubs that go into administration are hit with sporting sanctions even when the club is part of a group company.

 

What does this actually mean? Does it mean a if club who is a subsidiary of a group goes into administration it gets punished? Wasn't that always the case? Being part of a group was never used as a defense by anyone (remember Saints as a club never went into admin). Or does it mean that if any company in the group goes into admin the club gets hit - makes you think of West Ham's situation. What about if a small minor subsidiary in the group (eg radio station or something unrelated) goes into admin? Will the football club get hit?

 

I wonder if they've thought it through.

[trousers]

What does this actually mean? Does it mean a if club who is a subsidiary of a group goes into administration it gets punished? Wasn't that always the case? Being part of a group was never used as a defense by anyone (remember Saints as a club never went into admin). Or does it mean that if any company in the group goes into admin the club gets hit - makes you think of West Ham's situation. What about if a small minor subsidiary in the group (eg radio station or something unrelated) goes into admin? Will the football club get hit?

 

I wonder if they've thought it through.

 

To me it simply means that if the 'holding company' goes into adminstration (e.g. Southampton Leisure Holdings) then the footballing subsidiary (e.g. Southampton Football Club Ltd) is also deemed to be in administration.

[John Boy Saint]

I bet teams in the Football League 2 would have been totally hacked off if a big fish like us was dropped into their pond especially if ML had decided to go with us still, due to the potential that we offered, and then put the team package that we ended up with together. So Mr Hearn would only have avoided us for a season.

[oxfordshire_saint]

I believe Barry Hearn labled us cheats when we came down with -10.

 

I hope Orient go down and he loses a shedload of money.