trousers Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 This reminds me...we should have an annual award for 'worst post of the year'. I used to be a member of the German Sausage Appreciation Society (GSAS) message board a few years back. I once came second in their wurst post of the year award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ypbl Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Dickson "Is the best left back in this division" - so says his former boss... A Brentford season ticket holder here at work thinks he is there best player by a mile and would be very very sad to see him leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Also at 23 Dickson is at a good age and can get a lot better. Harding at 28 is probably near his peak from a fitness and experience point of view. I think its a good signing. Lets hope Inigo Calderon follows shortly along with a couple of others to add some real depth to the squad. Harding is only 26, so only approaching his peak. Nonetheless, Dickson would appear to be a welcome addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Sorry buddy - who do you think is/was the best left back in L1 in 09/10? Ryan Dickson, plays for Brentford, but is out of contract this summer. HCDAJFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Sorry buddy - who do you think is/was the best left back in L1 in 09/10? Harding could well be the best.....but ask Brentford fans and they will say Dickson ask Swindon fans and they will say Sheehan ask Huddersfield fans and they will say Williams ask Carlisle fans and they will say Harte Its difficult to say unless you watch each player regularly. League one LB of the year was Harte...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Harding could well be the best.....but ask Brentford fans and they will say Dickson ask Swindon fans and they will say Sheehan ask Huddersfield fans and they will say Williams ask Carlisle fans and they will say Harte Its difficult to say unless you watch each player regularly. League one LB of the year was Harte...... Who, bizarrely, played at CB for much of the year, including the JPT Final! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Harding could well be the best.....but ask Brentford fans and they will say Dickson ask Swindon fans and they will say Sheehan ask Huddersfield fans and they will say Williams ask Carlisle fans and they will say Harte Its difficult to say unless you watch each player regularly. League one LB of the year was Harte...... So have you watched Harte or any of the others regularly? You can't have watched that well as Harte was centre back for most of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Yup. Punch & Lallana can play on either wing, but aside from those two, we have no back-up players to either of them! Lee Holmes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Glasgow Saint has a point tbf. Ask any teams fan they will claim there left back is the best. I've watched a bit of Brentford this season and Dickson is better than Harding. Hth. Harding, for all his solid qualities is not as capable as Dickson going forward (Many Brentford fans will tell you Dickson is a bit like Bale to us a few years ago...There best attacking threat) and Dickson is just as solid defensively. I'd rather have Dickson but with him competing with Harding can only be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Yes, but Glasgow Saint also contradicted himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Yes, but Glasgow Saint also contradicted himself. Think he was referring to the League One team of the year tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 So have you watched Harte or any of the others regularly? You can't have watched that well as Harte was centre back for most of the season. I think the point was he was the official best LB last year, according to the PFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 nothing on the echo site? what did you expect ..it's Friday afternoon...wait till Monday ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I thought we were supposed to be building a team of "top half championship" standard rather than picking off players from teams that finished below us in the third tier of English football....? Their are always good players..even in the most mediochre teams... Rickie came from Bristol Rovers, Punch from Plymouth /MK Dons and Barnard from Southend. The trick is to spot them . Don't think AP did so badly getting those three...or do you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/8202027.Dickson_set_for_Saints_medical/?ref=mr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Dickson "Is the best left back in this division" - so says his former boss... well... so much for his opinion ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 So if Dickson plays LM, where are you suggesting Lallana plays? .at right back of course ...haven't you figured that out yet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 tremendous acquistion. Buying the best young talent from this division is an excellent transfer policy especially when these players look as though they can handle the step up in division. When his name was first mentioned on here I read the Brentford forum description of him and he has everything you could want of a fullback. This potential signing reminds me very much of when the skates took Matty Talyor for next to nothing from Luton (a divsion below at the time). At that time he was the best fullback in the third tier and he instantly shined when stepping up to the Nationwide league and was instrumental in getting them promoted. No step up in division here, but stand out talent is obvious and at 23 he is going to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 tremendous acquistion. Buying the best young talent from this division is an excellent transfer policy especially when these players look as though they can handle the step up in division. When his name was first mentioned on here I read the Brentford forum description of him and he has everything you could want of a fullback. This potential signing reminds me very much of when the skates took Matty Talyor for next to nothing from Luton (a divsion below at the time). At that time he was the best fullback in the third tier and he instantly shined when stepping up to the Nationwide league and was instrumental in getting them promoted. No step up in division here, but stand out talent is obvious and at 23 he is going to improve. Well said. Unfortunately we can't sign him because we already have a left back... pah. If we can sign the best players we are going to do it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Blimey! We must be putting him through one hell of a medical. He's been in there for hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Blimey! We must be putting him through one hell of a medical. He's been in there for hours! My Brentford supporting mate said he is injury prone so probably for good measure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Ok a bit surpised that he is a left back. I would not believe the Echo but probably the local newspaper is credible unless they have syndicated it from the Echo!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 This reminds me...we should have an annual award for 'worst post of the year'. Think we have a winner: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=23015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 IIRC Pardew took harding off in one game, and when questioned by Solent said that it would remain a matter between him and the player, but hinted he was not doing the things Pardew wanted him too. It may be that, despite what we think, Harding is not able to do the job Pardew wants done, for the benefit of the whole team. Harding is solid, but limited. Perhaps Pardew wants more, and sees it in Dickson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidger Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 An interesting point, but Pardew's first signing last year was a left back (Harding) on a free transfer (from Ipswich)! This deal was followed up by the signings of Rickie and Hammond! A sign of things to come hopefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 (edited) Sorry how can you compare the two team's defences as if they have significance on the players abilities. Here is how it breaks down, Harding is a solid defensive full back who offers little going forward. When Saints play at home, they struggle to break teams down as Harding and the other full back can't push forward.This lad Dickson is a very attacking full back, who carved us open a few times and caught the eye. The consensus is that he is going to help the team become a more attacking threat by overlapping the midfielders and getting forward. Not rocket science and definitely needed. As mentioned before, anyone who can add to the quality of the team is welcome in my eyes. As for those who are saying playing Harding at right back, terible idea. Okay as a stop gap, but we need balance not square pegs in round holes. We probably need 2 right backs brought in, 2 centre midfielders and at least one large striker to deputise for Ricky You must have watched a different Harding to me then saw him get forward plenty of times built up a good understanding with Lallanna on the over lap. Scored a couple to boot. The only time harding didn't get well forward was when he had to play emergency rightback he still played well on the defensive but getting forward was harder on his wrong foot. Edited 5 June, 2010 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Glasgow Saint has a point tbf. Ask any teams fan they will claim there left back is the best. I've watched a bit of Brentford this season and Dickson is better than Harding. Hth. Harding, for all his solid qualities is not as capable as Dickson going forward (Many Brentford fans will tell you Dickson is a bit like Bale to us a few years ago...There best attacking threat) and Dickson is just as solid defensively. I'd rather have Dickson but with him competing with Harding can only be good. You notice spurs don't play Bale at LB anymore maybe it's Lallanna who should be worrying about his postion not Harding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 I thought we were supposed to be building a team of "top half championship" standard rather than picking off players from teams that finished below us in the third tier of English football....? one player doesn't make a team & vice versa, a poor team doesn't make a good player bad. I'm hoping u were being tongue in cheek although may have been a bit of tumbleweed blowing past, eh Skacel?! ;0) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Blimey! We must be putting him through one hell of a medical. He's been in there for hours! God, still no news?! We're certainly being thorough with this medical. If we'd done this with Delgado someone might even have noticed his dodgy knee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
end of an era2 Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 You notice spurs don't play Bale at LB anymore maybe it's Lallanna who should be worrying about his postion not Harding. Maybe it's us who should be worrying about Lallana not being here eh!! Cetain players will not be worried about replacements coming in,if AP messes them about they'll just ask to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 You notice spurs don't play Bale at LB anymore maybe it's Lallanna who should be worrying about his postion not Harding. Well no because at no point did I mention Spurs did I? He's what Bale was for US, not Spurs. Us. Bale for us was our outlet, our main attacking threat, we'd ping to him and he'd go on a mazy run and put the ball in the box so our attackers could get on the end of it. That's whay Dickson was for Brentford. There main attacking threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Well no because at no point did I mention Spurs did I? He's what Bale was for US, not Spurs. Us. Bale for us was our outlet, our main attacking threat, we'd ping to him and he'd go on a mazy run and put the ball in the box so our attackers could get on the end of it. That's whay Dickson was for Brentford. There main attacking threat. So what? I was mentioning Spurs. I was pointing out Spurs don't play Bale at LB and he is a better player for it. Maybe just maybe AP wants to play Dickson at LM not LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 So what? I was mentioning Spurs. I was pointing out Spurs don't play Bale at LB and he is a better player for it. Maybe just maybe AP wants to play Dickson at LM not LB. they do..he played and has played plenty of games this season as LB.. only in the last few weeks of the season he was LM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 Blimey! We must be putting him through one hell of a medical. He's been in there for hours! With all of our break-even austerity he's probably still queueing at the General for an NHS appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 June, 2010 Share Posted 5 June, 2010 they do..he played and has played plenty of games this season as LB.. only in the last few weeks of the season he was LM You mean the ones where the tv pundits and press couldn't sing his praises enough, where he was far and away the best player in the spurs team, as I say playing him LM suits his game more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 You notice spurs don't play Bale at LB anymore maybe it's Lallanna who should be worrying about his postion not Harding. Why would AP suddenly drop an inspirational player like Lallana for some untried and untested player who excels at left back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 Blimey! We must be putting him through one hell of a medical. He's been in there for hours! I reckon the delay in him actually signing was that he wouldn't put pen to paper till he saw the new shirt design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 I reckon the delay in him actually signing was that he wouldn't put pen to paper till he saw the new shirt design Or perhaps we can't agree a method of paying Brentford by installments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8210967.Saints_sign_Dickson/ Echo thinks it's done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 Although, as they've printed the story before the OS, does this mean they'll be banned again? If the ban was even lifted in the first place, that is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 10 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 10 June, 2010 Good news, by all accounts a good player. does he go straight into the 11 though?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8210967.Saints_sign_Dickson/ Echo thinks it's done... At last a new player - now we just need a second new signing to model the away kit and the new shirt can finally be launched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 tremendous news. Buy the best players available to you and then worry about fitting them all into a 11. Even at £500,000 I bet we have got a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 Why would AP suddenly drop an inspirational player like Lallana for some untried and untested player who excels at left back? 1)I was being tounge in cheek 2) You could say the same about Harding IMO why drop a very good LB that we got to see perform well all season and came second in the player of the season poll only losing out to Lambert. For one whose main claim to fame among saints fans seems to be he beat Lloyd James in a match against us and put in one good cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 Although' date=' as they've printed the story before the OS, does this mean they'll be banned again? If the ban was even lifted in the first place, that is![/quote'] If I were Dickson I'd now be worried that as it has appeared in The Echo before any official announcement,Saints might 'Eliott Ward' the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 I reckon the delay in him actually signing was that he wouldn't put pen to paper till he saw the new shirt design Easy A) Remove Brentford badge from shirt B) Attach Saints badge to shirt Simples .........:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 1)I was being tounge in cheek 2) You could say the same about Harding IMO why drop a very good LB that we got to see perform well all season and came second in the player of the season poll only losing out to Lambert. For one whose main claim to fame among saints fans seems to be he beat Lloyd James in a match against us and put in one good cross. Fortunately our scouting system does not consist of most "saints fans" but professionals that watch him in games against other teams. He obviously did a little bit more than skinning Lloyd James last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 We better not be waiting for this to be finalised before we announce the shirt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 1)I was being tounge in cheek 2) You could say the same about Harding IMO why drop a very good LB that we got to see perform well all season and came second in the player of the season poll only losing out to Lambert. For one whose main claim to fame among saints fans seems to be he beat Lloyd James in a match against us and put in one good cross. Who's to say Dickson will walk straight into the team? We need strength in depth, this is part of the master plan where one team will win us the league and the other team will win the FA/League/Paint trophies :smile: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 10 June, 2010 Share Posted 10 June, 2010 Calderon has just signed a 3 year deal for Brighton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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