Dig Dig Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 That's fine for people who can make it to St Marys regularly, but for those who can't, but can make more local away games, it doesn't help. So that's just you then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2010 You can normally buy them at the away ground as well that wont cost you £3 extra. You will have to find yourself a penpal or adopt someone in Southampton that can buy and post them to you. By leaving it to paying on the day there is a risk of not getting in and by paying on the day you often have to pay more. I'm glad you're finding this all funny btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2010 So that's just you then Yeah, and it's a fact that SFC has a large fanbase outside of Southampton that form a sizeable chunk of our away following. This £3 Ticket Tax is going to add a considerable amount to the overall cost over a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Yeah, and it's a fact that SFC has a large fanbase outside of Southampton that form a sizeable chunk of our away following. This £3 Ticket Tax is going to add a considerable amount to the overall cost over a season. so, I will be going more than you next season.. silver lining and all that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 1 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 June, 2010 so, I will be going more than you next season.. silver lining and all that And what's the point you're making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 at the end of the day..it is a bloody game of football you dont HAVE to go As you have regularly proven. LOL!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 The whole point of booking over the phone or Internet is to make it more convenient, avoid queues and get in early for tickets. It's all very well saying you can buy tickets at the stadium for the next few matches but who is going to wander up with £100 in cash to do that? People who can will probably have STs. Not clear whether if you pay by card at the window you will have to pay a fee. Whatever, this tax is a rip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Is this per ticket or per order, and does it apply to away games aswell? I knew the club were lieing about the booking fee for the JPT final and sure enough they've rolled it out for next season. If Cortese is charging £25 - £28 for third division football I dread to think what he'll be wanting to charge should we get back to the premiership. being a Tory I'd have thought you would be loving the taxes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 being a Tory I'd have thought you would be loving the taxes It is because he is a Tory he does not like Stealth Taxes I would have thought Not being a Tory myself I dont like Stealth Taxes either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 It is because he is a Tory he does not like Stealth Taxes I would have thought Not being a Tory myself I dont like Stealth Taxes either ...unless it was them that thought of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 I thought that the £3.00p was per transaction not per ticket? Buy 2 tickets - £1.50 per ticket - 3 tickets - £1.00 per ticket?? Or am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 You can normally buy them at the away ground as well that wont cost you £3 extra. You will have to find yourself a penpal or adopt someone in Southampton that can buy and post them to you. At many away grounds last season they charged more for tickets purchased on the day of the game than those bought in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 I thought that the £3.00p was per transaction not per ticket? Buy 2 tickets - £1.50 per ticket - 3 tickets - £1.00 per ticket?? Or am I wrong? Dont know but at the Oval I bought six tickets for the Test Match and the booking fee was on each Would you be happy if Teco charged a fee every time you bought something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 at the end of the day..it is a bloody game of football you dont HAVE to go Indeed & we saw the mess we got in last time 3 to 4 thousand fans decided they " didnt have to go" Lets not get carried away though which I think was your message .. The hike for some bands of tickets is high but not much more than expected surly after the spending spree .. As I said tho this is NOT just about reducing admin cost to stop them getting stung by non payers either .. IF it was the half season ticket was there as a stop gap I wish people wouldnt be so blind this is because someone & we dont know who believes more money can be made by customers/fans buying per match with the booking fee added on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Dont know but at the Oval I bought six tickets for the Test Match and the booking fee was on each Would you be happy if Teco charged a fee every time you bought something Of course not but my point was that everyone seems to be quoting £3.00 per ticket, which I don`t think that it is. Incidently if you buy theatre/concert tickets you invariably get charged for a "Booking Fee" AND a "Handling/Administration Fee". Now THAT is a rip-off but seems to be the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 I thought that the £3.00p was per transaction not per ticket? Buy 2 tickets - £1.50 per ticket - 3 tickets - £1.00 per ticket?? Or am I wrong? Correct, it is £3 per transaction, not £3 per ticket. The point still stands, though, that someone buying a single ticket for a game would be better off taking their chances in the queue at 2.30pm on the day of the game than buying in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 So it's a £3 charge for an ST then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 So it's a £3 charge for an ST then? No, the booking fee doesn't apply to season tickets, only matchday tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Correct, it is £3 per transaction, not £3 per ticket. The point still stands, though, that someone buying a single ticket for a game would be better off taking their chances in the queue at 2.30pm on the day of the game than buying in advance. Yes if you buy a single ticket. The club usually puts tickets for several home games on sale at once. If those people who would have bought a ST on instalments buy tickets for a number of games at once that reduces the effect of the £3.00p surcharge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Is this per ticket or per order, and does it apply to away games aswell? I knew the club were lieing about the booking fee for the JPT final and sure enough they've rolled it out for next season. If Cortese is charging £25 - £28 for third division football I dread to think what he'll be wanting to charge should we get back to the premiership. Oh FFS stop moaning. If its not this its someting else. Just stop, will you. you buy tickets for some crap off ticketmaster and you pay hepas more plus postage etc. Get a grip, get alife and stop the whining. Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Correct, it is £3 per transaction, not £3 per ticket. The point still stands, though, that someone buying a single ticket for a game would be better off taking their chances in the queue at 2.30pm on the day of the game than buying in advance. Which is me, which is totally bonkers. It is now more expensive for me to buy in advance than come and pay on the day... Right, so which business/marketing guru dreamt that up... For the record: Racing - advance tickets cheaper than on the day tickets Cricket - advance tickets cheaper than on the day tickets Concerts - ditto... shall I go on? This is a sensible business proposition when supply is greater than demand, encourages people to make their purchasing decisions earlier, boosts cashflow, minimises risks associated with last-minute decision making, etc. It is surely also cheaper for the club for me to buy from a machine than a blonde - albeit I like the blonde If you're forcing me to make a decision on the day, that could be scuppered by the weather, my previous night out, the missus.... I'm not against a booking fee per se, but to use one in this way is feckwittery of the highest order, unless I am missing something obvious? (Which does happen now I'm 40). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 at the end of the day..it is a bloody game of football you dont HAVE to go At the end of the day it's bloody football, you don't have to comment on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 What I don't understand is that they have put a £2 fee on for buying on the day to stop the queues at the ticket office, yet have put a £3 fee on online/phone orders in advance, and then have the cheek to say they want to encourage people to buy tickets earlier??! How does that make sense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Are away fans visiting St Marys having to pay these stealth tax charges as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Not being funny but SFC do realise there is still a recession in this country dont they ? The UK is no longer in recession. The figures for the first quarter of this year showed positive growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheels Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 What I don't understand is that they have put a £2 fee on for buying on the day to stop the queues at the ticket office, yet have put a £3 fee on online/phone orders in advance, and then have the cheek to say they want to encourage people to buy tickets earlier??! How does that make sense? The official answer from Mr Luker is here: The £3 booking fee (for any number of tickets) will be more cost effective compared to the £2 surcharge per ticket which will be seen on a Matchday. As we can see that the vast majority of people book more than one ticket via the telephone or online, they will benefit this way. It's more cost effective to turn up on the day unless you are buying more than 1 ticket :smt105 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 (edited) The only logic that I can associate with the delay in releasing season tickets, the short window they are for sale, the non selling of half season tickets and the removal of the installment plan, is down to this 3 pound transaction charge and higher cost per single ticket. If money is not an immediate issue, then on the assumption we have a core fan base of at least 22,000, then charging over the season and the 3 pound transaction charge, will generate more revenue (This is based on the assumption that individual tickets + the transaction charge, will be more expensive than season tickets over the year). If individuals bonus plans are based on increasing revenue and revenue streams, then if we have a good season and the fans turn up in the numbers they did last year, then it starts to make a tiny tiny tiny bit of sense (At least for the individual, if not for the fans). Edited 2 June, 2010 by Gemmel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Just had it confirmed, the £3 booking fee will apply to away tickets as well. Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheels Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Just had it confirmed, the £3 booking fee will apply to away tickets as well. Christ. I guess it's a sign of the times - just booked a flight with Flybe and their transaction fee is £8, regardless of what type of card you use to pay for the flight!! If you use a CC, they then add £2. I guess SFC are just getting in on the act. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone it (I think it sucks), but it's just another 'easy' way of making money. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Just had it confirmed, the £3 booking fee will apply to away tickets as well. Christ. A booking fee for away tickets is, to be fair, understandable. The club don't make any money from the sale of away tickets but still have to provide the facility to sell them, so it could be argued that it's a good business principle to charge a fee for these. Booking fees for home tickets however ( and especially via the online system), is very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Just had it confirmed, the £3 booking fee will apply to away tickets as well. Christ. For F***S sake that is S**T! Will just mean long queues at the ticket office on home match days, as that's when I'll have to buy mine if I want them to go against my season ticket (as oppossed to just buying on the day at the away ground). No was am I paying possibly an extra £60+ to do Saints away games over the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 For F***S sake that is S**T! Will just mean long queues at the ticket office on home match days, as that's when I'll have to buy mine if I want them to go against my season ticket (as oppossed to just buying on the day at the away ground). No was am I paying possibly an extra £60+ to do Saints away games over the season. Or perhaps you will have one pint less:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 A quick lookaround at other clubs and just £1 charge seems to be the norm for online/telephone bookings. Mk Dons offer members no charges as part of the incentive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2010 I'm going to be making a point of using my credit card to buy tickets in future as opposed to my debit card. The credit card costs the club more because of fee's so if they're going to rip me off with the ticket tax, i'm going to make sure they get hit with fee's in return. This rip off tax also means i'll be making a point of spending as little as possible on matchday extras - f*ck you Cortese.:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Those that are saying "it's just three quid" - add that up over the course of the season, home and away... now try telling people "three quid is nothing"!!! I used to sing the praises of the online system, despite the occasional glitches - it was easy and convenient. I'm not now going to pay the best part of £70 for the privilege of using it to book my away tickets, let alone the extra for cup games. Bad move by the club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Just had it confirmed, the £3 booking fee will apply to away tickets as well. Christ. What a f*cking joke. I hope attendances are well down this year so they learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Those that are saying "it's just three quid" - add that up over the course of the season, home and away... now try telling people "three quid is nothing"!!! I used to sing the praises of the online system, despite the occasional glitches - it was easy and convenient. I'm not now going to pay the best part of £70 for the privilege of using it to book my away tickets, let alone the extra for cup games. Bad move by the club... Yeah not brilliant. I got all my away tickets last year that way and sent to me by post. There was no extra added cost which was excellent because there is the cost of an envelope and stamp to be born by the club. Now I don't mind covering that cost this season, but it's not £3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 I'm going to be making a point of using my credit card to buy tickets in future as opposed to my debit card. The credit card costs the club more because of fee's so if they're going to rip me off with the ticket tax, i'm going to make sure they get hit with fee's in return. This rip off tax also means i'll be making a point of spending as little as possible on matchday extras - f*ck you Cortese.:mad: That idea occurred to me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Does the £3 apply to executive boxes as well, I was thinking about getting one for the season, but this might put it out of reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 So if you go to every away game next season you're paying the thick end of £70 extra?! (maybe an idea to book a couple of away games at the same time etc, but not always possible given the demand for some of the games, plus the ridiculous timescales they give for getting them!) Suggestion for the club - as you're now taking all the fans to the cleaners, could you endeavour to get the away tickets a bit earlier, one month+ would be nice? How long before games do we send to the away team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Can't you post a cheque to the club? That will cost about 30p. Just a thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 2 June, 2010 Author Share Posted 2 June, 2010 What a f*cking joke. I hope attendances are well down this year so they learn. I hope so too. That way I can pay at the games. It might be £2 more on the day at some grounds , but at least i'll save £1 by not paying the ticket tax and won't be lining the coffers of SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 I hope so too. That way I can pay at the games. It might be £2 more on the day at some grounds , but at least i'll save £1 by not paying the ticket tax and won't be lining the coffers of SFC. Buy more than one ticket at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 I guess it's a sign of the times - just booked a flight with Flybe and their transaction fee is £8, regardless of what type of card you use to pay for the flight!! If you use a CC, they then add £2. I guess SFC are just getting in on the act. Don't get me wrong, I don't condone it (I think it sucks), but it's just another 'easy' way of making money. :mad: they do that so they can advertise flights for £29 rather than say £37. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 That idea occurred to me as well. American Express charge the highest fees, IIRC... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 We should pool all our money on here and then buy our matchday tickets in one transaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 What a f*cking joke. I hope attendances are well down this year so they learn. do clubs actually give a **** about the number of their fans that go to away games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 Can't you post a cheque to the club? That will cost about 30p. Just a thought! If they still take cheques they will undoubtedly be a pain in the arse to administer, so will hit them in the pocket. But they'll probably soon withdraw that option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 I hope so too. That way I can pay at the games. It might be £2 more on the day at some grounds , but at least i'll save £1 by not paying the ticket tax and won't be lining the coffers of SFC. we appear to have come a long way from last summer when fans were dipping into their pockets to try and keep the club afloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 2 June, 2010 Share Posted 2 June, 2010 If they still take cheques they will undoubtedly be a pain in the arse to administer, so will hit them in the pocket. But they'll probably soon withdraw that option... Cheques are charged by banks at a flat rate, whereas other methods are charged as a percentage. Unless you're dealing with small amounts of money (which the club aren't), cheques are much cheaper to deposit in a business account at the bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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