The Godfather Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Not happy about the £40 increase on mine this coming season, their is also a few other issues I'm not happy about. No instalment plan - very bad idea. The charge of £3 for booking over the phone or online is a joke. Selling no half ST tickets is another bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Seriously...that is a fuc*ing joke.....not bothered about the price so much, but anyone to find £400 in one hit is damn expensive. Spread that out over 6 months and pretty much anyone who wants one can probably afford it. Not happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 (edited) I think the prices for the wings/goal were to be expected, at least by me. With the renewal price for 09/10 being £288, I suspected the club would increase the prices by between £1 and £1.50 per match. Add onto that a 2.5% increase in VAT and I had a guide price of between £318-£330 in my mind. It didn't cross my mind that I'd have no choice but to pay for it in one lump though... The £3.00 booking fee is unfair to all fans that live outside Southampton that go regularly and cannot get to the ground during the week. As I and others have said earlier, clarification is needed whether this applies to home games only and/or per ticket... Edited 31 May, 2010 by markr27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 I wonder if the season ticket numbers will be down because of this. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 I think the prices for the wings/goal were to be expected, at least by me. With the renewal price for 09/10 being £288, I suspected the club would increase the prices by between £1 and £1.50 per match. Add onto that a 2.5% increase in VAT and I had a guide price of between £318-£330 in my mind. Didn't cross my mind that I'd have no choice but to pay for it in one lump though... Poll mods? Will you be renewing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 What a load of ********! I've got to find the money for 3 Itchen Centre tickets with no payment plan!! NC you've screwed up big time here RL handled this better!! Very disappointed...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 This years fans forum could be enlightening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Just emailed David Luker asking why adults benefit in some cases but Young Adults/Under 16's don't. I believe his email is: dluker@saintsfc.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Prices seem fairly reasonable, think they're as high as could be for this league without a backlash from fans. £3 booking charge is fairly high, especially for online purchases. I hadn't realised that under 8s get free entry in any part of the ground. I'm all for the 'next generation of fans' but it should be restricted to the family enclosure and should have a small charge i.e. £2/£3 - its not as if kids under 8 are actually paying themselves. I was sat next to kid during a match towards the end of last season who was about 6/7 yrs old and he spent the entire match stood up in front of his dad, facing the back and playing on an iphone, he also ate 3 bananas, which i feel was a bit exessive. anyway at this age i don't think they can really apriciate the match experience, remember other kids crying and complaining about the noise. (always in kingsland north), it also means you have to watch your language, which is difficult with the standard of refereeing in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Rabbit Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 I'm actually f*cking angry about this now.....what an entirely dumb thing to do. 100% of people who want to renew will renew if they can afford it. By not making a payment plan will guarentee to outpirce 'some' people...which is just so illogical surely? Why outprice people who want to buy ST's?! Quite happy to pay what they are asking, just not all in one go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Whilst not happy with increase in price, was expecting price freeze. Haven't the club heard that times are difficult moneywise. But looking quickly at other clubs prices the season ticket price is cheaper than most of the top teams/teams likely to be chasing for promotion. Not that this bodes well for football in general, matchday prices are far too high for the league we are in, hate to think what championship and Premier league football would cost us!! Now where are my prawn sandwhiches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 By removing installments it means the club has all the money from season tickets to spend during the summer transfer window. If this is how they want to change the season tickets it has to start one year. Now next year it won't be a surprise and people can save up and do some financial planning in future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkySaint Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 I hope there is some sort of statement form the club about the lack of an installment plan. I would have done that even if it had pushed the price up a fraction. That would mean a bit more money for the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNick89 Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 I'm actually f*cking angry about this now.....what an entirely dumb thing to do. 100% of people who want to renew will renew if they can afford it. By not making a payment plan will guarentee to outpirce 'some' people...which is just so illogical surely? Why outprice people who want to buy ST's?! Quite happy to pay what they are asking, just not all in one go! I was planning to and still want to get my first ST this year...I can afford the price and quite happy with it but it is going to make it very very tight having to fork out almost £400 in one hit. Especially with things like car insurance coming out at same time of the year for me. I am now considering not getting ST where as up until 11pm tonight i was 100% getting one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkySaint Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 ^ this is why this isn't good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 By removing installments it means the club has all the money from season tickets to spend during the summer transfer window. If this is how they want to change the season tickets it has to start one year. Now next year it won't be a surprise and people can save up and do some financial planning in future! The problem is if they had announced the ticket prices back in April and then put them onsale from June 1st it would of been such an issue, but to announce it just half day before they go on sale is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozz Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 By removing installments it means the club has all the money from season tickets to spend during the summer transfer window. If this is how they want to change the season tickets it has to start one year. Now next year it won't be a surprise and people can save up and do some financial planning in future! It's the clubs decision if they don't want to offer a payment plan, but to announce the fact as tickets go on sale with plans being offered on previous seasons isn't exactly the best way to communicate the fact. I should be able to scrape the cash together but others won't be able to. Hadn't done any prior "financial planning" as was expecting to pay June/July-November as last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 31 May, 2010 I wonder if the season ticket numbers will be down because of this. Should be interesting. i wouldn't be surprised to see sales drop. Not dramatically...but they will drop slightly imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint dyer Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Luckily I can afford it in one hit, but know 2 or 3 people who may not be able to renew at the moment without the payment plan. Bit of a balls up by the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 I wonder what the reasoning behind this mistake is? Seconded. I'm shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Will the Echo run this story in a positive light to help sales for the club, or a negative light that harms sales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Wow, mines gone up by £40. **** you SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Or you could of just put 20 pound a month away last season, to pay for the ticket out right.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 Or you could of just put 20 pound a month away last season, to pay for the ticket out right.. In fairness though, people may have done this if they had known there would be no installments this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 31 May, 2010 Share Posted 31 May, 2010 In fairness though, people may have done this if they had known there would be no installments this year... Granted, I personally find it easier that way, but I guess everyone is different, hopefully thought it won’t prevent many from purchasing STs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 I think this will lose potentially a couple of thousand people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Right time for some OOO rounding up then Here are the season ticket prices for the rest of league 1 (Prices shown in this thread are Adult and based on as if you were buying one now) Bournemouth http://www.afcb.co.uk/staticFiles/af/4e/0,,10324~151215,00.pdf Adult: £304 - 456 Brentford http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/0,,10421~2030391,00.html Adult: £335-440 Brighton http://www.seagulls.co.uk/page/ComingUp/0,,10433~2037717,00.html The lowest-priced season ticket is £373, and equates to just over £16 per match. Seniors can snap up a ticket for £218, less than £10 per match; while under-21s can pay as little as £124, just over £5 per match; under-16 and under-10 tickets are as low as £64 and £16 respectively. Bristol Rovers http://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10328~2042813,00.html Adult: £275-430 Carlisle http://www.carlisleunited.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10361~2024458,00.html Adult: £285 (Standing) - 365 (Seat) Charlton http://tickets.cafc.co.uk/STnotice.ink Adult: £240 - 425 Colchester http://www.cu-fc.com/page/SeasonTickets2010/0,,10424~1987574,00.html 357-393 And the option of a Quarterly and Half season ticket Daggers http://www.daggers.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10692~1650937,00.html £255-285 Exeter http://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/ £305-400 Hartlepool - NOT YET AVAILABLE http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/0,,10326,00.html Huddersfield http://www.htafc.com/page/SeasonTicketsDetail/0,,10312~2019718,00.html £295 - 499 Leyton Orient http://www.leytonorient.com/staticFiles/dc/4d/0,,10439~151004,00.pdf 200 - 325 MK Dons http://www.mkdons.com/staticFiles/83/49/0,,10420~149891,00.pdf 255 - 480 Notts County http://www.nottscountyfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/ 325 - 400 Oldham http://www.oldhamathletic.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/ Not giving much away Peterboro http://www.theposh.com/staticFiles/ae/4a/0,,10427~150190,00.pdf 325 - 450 Argyle http://www.pafc.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10364,00.html 265 - 399 Rochdale http://www.pafc.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10364,00.html 270 -360 Sheff Wed http://www.swfc.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/0,,10304~1832164,00.html 381 - 535 Swindon - Not out until June 1st http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10341~2031117,00.html Tranmere http://www.tranmererovers.co.uk/staticFiles/6c/4c/0,,10365~150636,00.pdf 225 -380 Walsall http://www.saddlers.co.uk/page/SeasonTickets/ 280 - 360 Yeovil http://www.ytfc.net/staticFiles/8e/4c/0,,10673~150670,00.pdf 270 -342 Looking at it every other club in the league has an installment plan, most have a half season ticket available and some even a 1/4 season ticket on offer. Most have frozen their ticket prices. OOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockportsaint Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 What i dont understand is they say they have added £2 to the price if you pay on the day to encourage people to book their tickets in advanced. But then they go and put an extra £3 "booking fee" on the price if you want to buy in advance :S seems strange to me So if you're going on your own, and you can't get to the ground to buy a ticket beforehand, then it's actually cheaper to buy one on the day than on the phone/internet before the game. Don't think they've really thought this one through. I predict an increase in the number of people leaving it till matchday, and a consequent increase in the queues, also due to the lack of instalments. I wonder if the season ticket numbers will be down because of this. Should be interesting. I'd put good money on it - not having instalments seems like a massive **** up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Out of the 4 of us with ST's, 2 of my mates wont be able to afford it now. Going by the few on here aswell, i can see a MAJOR drop in ST sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 what a load of crap. I'm not paying that sort of money to support the Saints. I'm off to Fratton next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 The club have clearly reversed their decision on moving the away fans after nearly every single person said it was a bad idea. I wouldn't be surprised to see an instalment plan brought in about a week from now. Also, what constitutes a young adult? Is it 17-20? Personally I consider anyone up to 25 to be "young". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Those saying that season ticket numbers will be lower than last season are forgetting that last season Saints started on -10 and were unlikely to get promotion. This season the club are favourites to win the league and that will attract many to get a season ticket and see a promotion campaign. Yes, installments may lose some potential season ticket holders but the opportunity to see Saints win a league will no doubt attract new season ticket holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 The club have clearly reversed their decision on moving the away fans after nearly every single person said it was a bad idea. I wouldn't be surprised to see an instalment plan brought in about a week from now. Also, what constitutes a young adult? Is it 17-20? Personally I consider anyone up to 25 to be "young". Yeah it is 17-20, and I agree that up to 25 is young really. I'm 21 in October so this will be my last chance to get the young adult discount. That's if I can find the money to pay it all at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Sent an email asking about the increase in prices on some price bands, and also suggested they rethink the instalment plan thingy (though it wouldn't affect me anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Will the Echo run this story in a positive light to help sales for the club, or a negative light that harms sales? If the Echo DON'T run it as a complete hatchet job they're missing a trick. I for one have absolutely NO chance of being able to fork out £328 in one go, and nor does my other half. It's not down to any lack of planning either, there just isn't enough money at this time of year. It's fcking preposterous to keep this information secret for no particular reason and then launch it half a day before people are expected to find the money, in fact. Fifty quid over 6 months, yeah I can manage that - and have done for the last 5 or so years one way or another - but not all in one go. There's a fcking recession on over here in the real world... Cortese seems to be making misjudgement after misjudgement at the moment. If the idea is to price people out then it'll work, if the idea is to exploit our expected success, then all he's going to do is p155 off people who would otherwise happily stump up the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Those saying that season ticket numbers will be lower than last season are forgetting that last season Saints started on -10 and were unlikely to get promotion. This season the club are favourites to win the league and that will attract many to get a season ticket and see a promotion campaign. Yes, installments may lose some potential season ticket holders but the opportunity to see Saints win a league will no doubt attract new season ticket holders. Happy to state here and now that I think we'll have fewer ST holders than last season unless a payment plan is sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Happy to state here and now that I think we'll have fewer ST holders than last season unless a payment plan is sorted. I agree with this completely. I know of one person who, though I haven't spoken to him, definitely cannot attend next season now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 By removing installments it means the club has all the money from season tickets to spend during the summer transfer window. If this is how they want to change the season tickets it has to start one year. Now next year it won't be a surprise and people can save up and do some financial planning in future! Crap. Now the club has no debt they could leverage ST demand at the bank and still have all the cash to spend now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 This is a ****ing complete **** up by NC and the club. If you take your missus and one kid along then you will need to find the thick end of £1,000 in cash before August 8th. What ****ing planet is Cortese living on? No payment scheme! - give me a break. Up until now NC has done a good job. Not having a payment scheme has been his biggest **** up so far. Disappointing. Luckily, I have saved for my ST and will hand over the £318 in folding before the week is out. But for families and others whose cash-flow won't support it this will mean less STs are sold. What a crazy, crazy, crazy dumb-arsed idea. Not happy Mr Cortese. Not happy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 So if you're paying for a £27 ticket then you have pay in advance (plus £3 booking fee) or pay on the day (plus £2 surcharge)? Ffs! Those who work funny hours and can't get season tickets are fooked, but then i guess someone has to be. The way I read it is the £27 ticket is Centre seats bought on matchday. If you phone up or go online to purchase at any time you will pay a further £3. As they have said, the £2 surcharge is to encourage pre matchday purchase from the ground or shop, and the £3 charge I would assume is to cover cost AND to encourage pre matchday collection to cut down on queues at the office. Makes total sense as hopefully people will be in the ground a bit sooner drinking beer eating food and building up the atmoshere (as well as the revenue!!). I can understdnd the frustrations re installments but as you have until Aug 6th, potentially that 3 paydays for most people to find (individually) £328 even if you don't have any already saved!!! Not really an issue I would think but I can certainly understdnd if you are buying for a whole family! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 The booking fee is straightforward, albeit something else I don't agree with. If you book over the phone or online - £3 per transaction. If you buy at the ticket office in advance - no extra charge. If you buy at the ticket office on matchday - £2 per transaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 The booking fee is straightforward, albeit something else I don't agree with. If you book over the phone or online - £3 per transaction. If you buy at the ticket office in advance - no extra charge. If you buy at the ticket office on matchday - £2 per transaction. It is bullsh*t. Surely if anything online sales should be free and there should be surcharges for using the ticket office at all times if anything. I'd have thought they'd want as many people as possible to buy online to save on manual labour. Major own goal all round on this one. The lack of payment plan doesn't bother me, but it will put a lot of people off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 This place is gonna explode tomorrow morning when the main bulk of users find out about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 (edited) The booking fee is straightforward, albeit something else I don't agree with. If you book over the phone or online - £3 per transaction. If you buy at the ticket office in advance - no extra charge. If you buy at the ticket office on matchday - £2 per transaction. Why the **** should you have to pay more on the day? Not everyone lives within striking distance of SMS but we 'outlying supporters' do not always know if we can make match day. Sorry, this extra charge is crap. As for booking online at £3 extra! Give me a ****ing break! The internet is supposed to reduce costs! No one will use the internet now! Cortese has ****ed up big time. Edited 1 June, 2010 by 1976_Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Why the **** should you have to pay more on the day? Not everyone lives within striking distance of SMS. Did I say I agreed with it? Some people seemed to be misunderstanding what was being said on the OS, probably due to the late hour. I was just clarifying. And to clarify again, I think it's absolute b*llocks - although again, it won't affect me because if I need to get tickets for family I will get them at SMS at the match before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 It is bullsh*t. Surely if anything online sales should be free and there should be surcharges for using the ticket office at all times if anything. I'd have thought they'd want as many people as possible to buy online to save on manual labour. Major own goal all round on this one. The lack of payment plan doesn't bother me, but it will put a lot of people off. Spot on. Christ sake, this shows NC's weakness in knowing how the other half live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Did I say I agreed with it? Some people seemed to be misunderstanding what was being said on the OS, probably due to the late hour. I was just clarifying. And to clarify again, I think it's absolute b*llocks - although again, it won't affect me because if I need to get tickets for family I will get them at SMS at the match before. Sorry Saint-Clark - wasn't having a pop at you. Just using your post as a jumping off point... This is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 FWIW i'm still pretty sure a couple of decisions here will be reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Or you could of just put 20 pound a month away last season, to pay for the ticket out right.. I did. I always save £1,000 over a season which goes into a separate Nationwide account for all football tixs including ST, cup games and away days. But not everyone can save regular amounts. That is why the payment plan is important. Balls up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 1 June, 2010 Share Posted 1 June, 2010 Thought: Could the fact that the club will not offer payment plans (credit) have anything to do with Mr Liebherr's religious/moral beliefs about debt? Didn't his family firm famously rise from nothing without taking on a single penny of debt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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