The art of 12 yds.

[Pilchards]

I know Lambert has it as he hits the net before the keeper gets there but Le Tiss, what was his art as it's special getting 48 in 49.

Why will England be let down yet again on penalties as Lampards was limp and predictable.

 

What is the art please for those that scored loads In local footy?

[Raging Bull]

look at the keeper as your about to hit it to watch his movement/direction

[hypochondriac]

Decide before you kick it and don't change your mind or be indecisive.

[saintkiptanui]

Never misssed one playing for the school team and up to under -16's but I was skill.

[Turkish]

hard and low into the bottom corners, like MLT used to, or hard and high into the top corners, like Rickie does its going to take some keeper or some save to keep it out.

[Huffton]

I've never taken one in anger but I've saved a few. Worst for me was if the striker didn't look at me, just put his head down and smashed it. Unless it's straight at you you've got mo chance, and even if it is straight it's still a good chance you'll have already gone sideways.

[ChrisPY]

Think MLT was unique. He used the side of his foot and still generated immense power. Meant he could get precision and power. Also used to change the position of his foot at the last second so the keeper couldn't tell which way he was going.

[aintforever]

Decide before you kick it and don't change your mind or be indecisive.

 

That's actually the opposite to how Le Tiss took them. He always side-footed it with his instep and kept half an eye of the keeper. If he saw the keeper move to the side he planned he could change the angle of his foot at the last minute. If the keeper hadn't moved he would hit it to the planned side knowing he could make the ball get there before the keeper.

 

If you decide where to kick it before hand and don't change your mind you make it more of a lottery. But obviously few of the current England team have the skill of Le Tiss, and would his technique work for a player with less skill under the pressure of a World Cup - probably not.

[Draino76]

Never misssed one playing for the school team and up to under -16's but I was skill.

 

Haven't heard that phrase for 20 years. Is it still used or are you showing your age?

[paulwantsapint]

MLT could take the paint off the post with his kicks saved kicks are normally to far inside the post

[Thedelldays]

 

go to about 3mins 25secs....dont do that

[RedAndWhite91]

I took one penalty for my team in the x amount of years I played for them. I was on a hat trick and I won the penalty, stepped up, but it was sh!t and the keeper easily saved it diving to his left. I got my hat trick in the end though. My one and only penalty scarred me for life.

[Pilchards]

I remember my boss at work was telling me how he had a penalty with a few minutes to go in the under 16's cup final.

He scuffed it so bad that the keeper dived and got up again and picked it up before it reached the centre of the goal...

 

class :-)

[Pilchards]

BTW Lampards next penalty shootout attempt is going to be down the centre as the other keepers know he is weak on confidence to the left and they will think he will try the opposite side next.

[saintkiptanui]

Haven't heard that phrase for 20 years. Is it still used or are you showing your age?

The latter

[hypochondriac]

That's actually the opposite to how Le Tiss took them. He always side-footed it with his instep and kept half an eye of the keeper. If he saw the keeper move to the side he planned he could change the angle of his foot at the last minute. If the keeper hadn't moved he would hit it to the planned side knowing he could make the ball get there before the keeper.

 

If you decide where to kick it before hand and don't change your mind you make it more of a lottery. But obviously few of the current England team have the skill of Le Tiss, and would his technique work for a player with less skill under the pressure of a World Cup - probably not.

 

Not if you hit it well enough. If you hit it top corner then they aren't going to save it even if they guess right.

[Northant Saint]

I saved a penalty to win the match a couple of weeks ago, but its the same situation for both goalie and striker. I made up my mind which way I was going before he stepped up, and it was the perfect height. It goes to show you have to be confident in the way you hit them- top or bottom corner.

[benjii]

If you divide the goal into six with two rows of three boxes then a firmly struck shot into either of the top two side boxes will result in a goal 99% of the time.

 

Simple as that. The trick is having the bottle and talent to do that.

[St Landrew]

Never misssed one playing for the school team...

 

Same here. Easy to say, but I never did. I think I took about 20 odd penalties over the school team years. I remember having one that hit the post, but luckily it bounced straight back to me and I hit it down the middle. Keeper had already dived and was watching. There was also one that I miss hit on a loose surface and it dribbled into the goal, but again the keeper had dived the wrong way. The rest went into either corner. I also used left or right foot, depending on mood.

 

Method: Choose your corner and stick to it whatever.

[Dark Munster]

Not if you hit it well enough. If you hit it top corner then they aren't going to save it even if they guess right.

True, but it leaves little room for error (a little bit off, and you'll hit the post or crossbar). MLT's technique ensures that you don't have to accurately get it in to the top or bottom corner: if the goalie moves, all he has to do is put it in the opposite side, and if the goalie doesn't move before the kick, a hard kick in the originally chosen direction will be virtually unsavable.

 

BTW, if England beat Germany on penalties, I'll eat my house.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=22743

[benjii]

Same here. Easy to say, but I never did. I think I took about 20 odd penalties over the school team years. I remember having one that hit the post, but luckily it bounced straight back to me and I hit it down the middle. Keeper had already dived and was watching. There was also one that I miss hit on a loose surface and it dribbled into the goal, but again the keeper had dived the wrong way. The rest went into either corner. I also used left or right foot, depending on mood.

 

Method: Choose your corner and stick to it whatever.

 

That should have been disallowed. HTH

[St Landrew]

That should have been disallowed. HTH

 

Did I mention it touched the keeper on the way to the post, you clever bugger..?

[SuperMikey]

I won a penalty shootout tournament at a school fete once.

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

if you hit the ball fairly firmly and it hits the side netting then the keeper has no chance in saving it. This is why the Germans do so well in penalty shoot-outs.

[Pilchards]

I won a penalty shootout tournament at a school fete once.

 

 

blimey thats some raffle prize

[Ewell]

Same here. Easy to say, but I never did. I think I took about 20 odd penalties over the school team years. I remember having one that hit the post, but luckily it bounced straight back to me and I hit it down the middle.

 

So you missed one then!

[St Landrew]

So you missed one then!

 

Nope.

[exeter_saint]

ive completed my dissertation looking at the effect of practising penalties whlst usng a pre shot routine focussing on fixating on the corners of the goal and explicitly not the goalkeeper, using a eye tracker which shows precisely where someone is looking in thier field of vision( thier accuracy and success rate shot up over 6 weeks). based on this and all the proper scientific research conducted in this area, your far more lkely to be successfull when you look where you want to score. anxiety leads to fixaions on the goalkeeper and generally more centralised, ****tier shots. MLT was unique in that he could look at the goalkeeper to his advantage, when the literature says otherwise!

[skintsaint]

Just smash it hard down the middle just under the bar, keepers always dive. Hasnt failed for me.

 

Although in a pen shootout the keeper might get the idea after a couple of pens!!

[Huffton]

ive completed my dissertation looking at the effect of practising penalties whlst usng a pre shot routine focussing on fixating on the corners of the goal and explicitly not the goalkeeper, using a eye tracker which shows precisely where someone is looking in thier field of vision

 

Are you Clive Woodward?

[exeter_saint]

Are you Clive Woodward?

 

a fellow sports science vsionary, yes

[SuperMikey]

blimey thats some raffle prize

 

Well deserved with the amount of tickets I bought

[Saint Billy]

Its all in the mind.

 

When you watch penalty shoot outs, 9 times out of 10 you know who is going to miss, you can see it etched in their faces.

 

Its all about confidence and not showing the keeper that you are ****ting bricks!

[RinNY]

Pick a side to go to, be decisive, concentrate on hitting it hard and on target, don't look at the keeper. You have to consider the keeper irrelevant: your task is to plant the ball as hard as you can to one side of the goal or the other. If the keeper saves it, so be it; if you hit it hard and true enough, he's not likely to get to it unless he guesses right and moves well before you strike the ball, which is against the rules but most keepers do it & get away with it. And again, if that happens, so be it. The cardinal mistakes are to tip off the keeper with your eyes or body language which way you're going, or to miss the goal, or to hit a weak and indecisive shot.

 

Mostly what English players seem to do is combine two or more of those: they don't strike hard, they tip the keeper, and/or they miss entirely. And that's all mental. Capello should have accepted Le Tiss' offer to help.

[Huffton]

unless he guesses right and moves well before you strike the ball, which is against the rules but most keepers do it & get away with it.

 

Don't think theres anything in the rules about not moving sideways before the kick is taken. Coming off the line is a no-no, but we can usually get a little step in:cool: