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djharvey

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Yes, that is exactly what I am saying... why do you think most clubs put season tickets on sale before the end of the season? Because it is the best time to capture people.

 

Of course there is the hardcore which will renew... but for some people SFC is now at the back of their minds again and it will be har to recapture them to get them to commit to a season ticket.

 

Listen, as I keep saying and for some whacky reason, nobody can understand... there is a reason that every single club if possible get their season tickets on sale before the end of the previous season is.................... because it sells the most season tickets by doing it this way!

 

I would think that the primary reason is to get the monies in the bank ASAP! could be wrong but i doubt it.:)

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Gemmel

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Is it now...

 

For the record, I think we will know this afternoon, if not tommorow morning.

 

Best guess - We were looking at a smart card system, want a smart card system, but havent been able to get the deal we want or the right commercials. Left it as long as they can to try and do something this year, but will now shelve it until next year, leaving us with some crappy cardboard cut out and will release new pricing details this week.

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djharvey

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Am pretty sure we are not having smart card system next year... the delay is all about Cortese delaying, nothing else... it might be for a reason, but nobody other than Cortese knows what that reason is.

 

 

:rolleyes: I love statements like this! makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time!:confused:

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Matthew Le God

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What that Cortese is making all the decisions?

 

Do you not believe that then?

 

Well the first statement you talk with some degree of confidence.

 

Second you talk with 100% certainty.

 

Third statement you put some doubt in.

 

I can see why he has a mix of emotions reading your posts. ;)

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rocknrollman no2

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Stu makes a valid point.

A lot of my friends get their ST paid by instalments as soon as they are put on sale,thus its all paid up by Christmas.By leaving it so late,they will still be paying it off at an expensive time of year.

I also think that Cortese is doing himself no favours by not at least telling us fans when to expect them to go on sale.

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Appy

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Just seen this on twitter:

 

"Just spoke with the #saintsfc ticket office and the season tickets will be 100% released this week - they just don't know when!"

 

Who's twitter page is that on?

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1976_Child

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If the club doesn't put the season tixs on sale pretty sharpish the money I've saved up over the last season will be spent on my holidays instead! This is insane. The tixs should have been on sale the moment we knew which league we were going to be in.

 

Come on Nicola - sort it out!

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Matthew Le God

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If the club doesn't put the season tixs on sale pretty sharpish the money I've saved up over the last season will be spent on my holidays instead! This is insane. The tixs should have been on sale the moment we knew which league we were going to be in.

 

Come on Nicola - sort it out!

 

Some very strange logic to that statement.

 

There is always going to be season tickets. Even if they went on sale one day before the opening game.

 

If you have already set aside the money what difference does it make if it comes out of your account tomorrow or in July? If anything it benefits you more the later it is, as you are still accruing interest as it is in your account. ;)

 

The financial planning of some people on this forum is shocking! :D

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1976_Child

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Some very strange logic to that statement.

 

There is always going to be season tickets. Even if they went on sale one day before the opening game.

 

If you have already set aside the money what difference does it make if it comes out of your account tomorrow or in July? If anything it benefits you more the later it is, as you are still accruing interest as it is in your account. ;)

 

The financial planning of some people on this forum is shocking! :D

 

Because I know I will spend it on holiday, not because I want to! I saved it in premium bonds over the course of the last season and then converted it back into cash at the end of the season so it was ready in my bank account to buy the season tix. Now I am soon off on holiday and I just know that once the beer starts to flow it will 'magically' disappear!

 

Didn't the club used to have a savings scheme for STs? I vaguely remember that you could buy stamps every time you went to SMS in denominations of £5, £10, £20. You then put them in your savings book and once full could turn it in for next season tix. A good idea imho.

 

EDIT: actually it probably was the Dell, not SMS. Going back a few years now.

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saintwarwick

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Because I know I will spend it on holiday, not because I want to! I saved it in premium bonds over the course of the last season and then converted it back into cash at the end of the season so it was ready in my bank account to buy the season tix. Now I am soon off on holiday and I just know that once the beer starts to flow it will 'magically' disappear!

 

Didn't the club used to have a savings scheme for STs? I vaguely remember that you could buy stamps every time you went to SMS in denominations of £5, £10, £20. You then put them in your savings book and once full could turn it in for next season tix. A good idea imho.

 

EDIT: actually it probably was the Dell, not SMS. Going back a few years now.

 

Then why don't you just put it in an account that doesn't have easy "beer" access, there are plenty out there. Simples

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Matthew Le God

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Because I know I will spend it on holiday, not because I want to! I saved it in premium bonds over the course of the last season and then converted it back into cash at the end of the season so it was ready in my bank account to buy the season tix. Now I am soon off on holiday and I just know that once the beer starts to flow it will 'magically' disappear!

 

Have some self control and financial responsibility like the rest of us then. ;) :)

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The delay in announcing ST details is surprising and intriguing.

 

Clearly the club would have had a pretty good idea of which division we would be playing in (or could have planned for both possibilities). What is particularly unusual is the lack of a date to announce the prices, unless I have missed it somewhere.

 

I guess there are a number of possibilities: 1) They have forgotten (?), 2) they are disorganised and cannot agree, 3) they are awaiting some big announcement about players (this would only make sense if the ST price is going to be higher because of it), 4) prices are going to be super low (if so why the delay in announcing?), 5) they are still in discussions over where to site away fans, 6) there will be no season tickets next season (unlikely)

 

I'm sure there are other possibilities, but unless it is 1,2 or 3, I cannot understand why the club doesn't at least make a holding statement. I'm not particularly impatient, just a bit surprised.

 

Not planning to spend the money on something else either :)

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Hyde and Seek

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Maybe their accounting year ends on the 8th July (Ist anniversary of the takeover) and so offering season tickets in their 2nd year gives them a tax advantage.

 

That is, their their turnover and profit will be held back in the first year and any tax due would be lessened.

 

Expect ST's to be on sale from 9 July.

 

Money received for season tickets will be accounted for in the accounts to which they relate. The club pays tax on its profits 9 months after the end of its accounting year. So if the club prepares accounts to 30 June 2010, but season tickets for the following year are issued in April 2010, then while the club gets the benefit of our cash early, it does not pay tax on our money until 1 April 2012 on the 2010/11 tickets. So there is no tax penalty to the company if it takes money for the next season early. But its gets our money in their bank account.

 

You could therefore suggest they are doing us all a favour, particularly if they offer us a compertitive package. Best of all if we know in the future that this is going to be the way forward then we can't have too much to complain.

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Amesbury Saint

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The delay in announcing ST details is surprising and intriguing.

 

Clearly the club would have had a pretty good idea of which division we would be playing in (or could have planned for both possibilities). What is particularly unusual is the lack of a date to announce the prices, unless I have missed it somewhere.

 

I guess there are a number of possibilities: 1) They have forgotten (?), 2) they are disorganised and cannot agree, 3) they are awaiting some big announcement about players (this would only make sense if the ST price is going to be higher because of it), 4) prices are going to be super low (if so why the delay in announcing?), 5) they are still in discussions over where to site away fans, 6) there will be no season tickets next season (unlikely)

 

I'm sure there are other possibilities, but unless it is 1,2 or 3, I cannot understand why the club doesn't at least make a holding statement. I'm not particularly impatient, just a bit surprised.

 

Not planning to spend the money on something else either :)

 

I am going for the idea the club wants to maximise STs but especially in parts of the ground that are unpopular. So Chapel / Itchen Corner becomes very cheap.

Blocks 1-3 become STs + enhanced member scheme only. Enhanced member scheme - you have to buy 10 matches up front (or something similar).

Also a Saturday only season ticket.

Also a mid week only ST

also a pre match day purchase rate and a higher match day purchase rate

Introduction of Gold priced matches

higher % increases on children ST tickets (if children tickets are too cheap, there is very little "penalty" for not turning up at matches) .. also link back to Saturday tickets.

 

The reason for the delay is to wait until the fixture list is out to allow the above to be implemented ie allowing for a 20? match Saturday only ticket. Or the Bournemouth at SMS Boxing Day (or another Bank Holiday) to be a gold match.

 

I think we are going to see a radical approach to ST and ticket sales.

 

Plus I am expecting a very good player signing.

 

The lack of info / publicity now is to get a real wow factor shortly.

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RonManager

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I am going for the idea the club wants to maximise STs but especially in parts of the ground that are unpopular. So Chapel / Itchen Corner becomes very cheap.

Blocks 1-3 become STs + enhanced member scheme only. Enhanced member scheme - you have to buy 10 matches up front (or something similar).

Also a Saturday only season ticket.

Also a mid week only ST

also a pre match day purchase rate and a higher match day purchase rate

Introduction of Gold priced matches

higher % increases on children ST tickets (if children tickets are too cheap, there is very little "penalty" for not turning up at matches) .. also link back to Saturday tickets.

 

The reason for the delay is to wait until the fixture list is out to allow the above to be implemented ie allowing for a 20? match Saturday only ticket. Or the Bournemouth at SMS Boxing Day (or another Bank Holiday) to be a gold match.

 

I think we are going to see a radical approach to ST and ticket sales.

 

Plus I am expecting a very good player signing.

 

The lack of info / publicity now is to get a real wow factor shortly.

 

Stop calling me Shortly.

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teamsaint

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Stop calling me Shortly.

 

 

spot on. That is EXACTLY how they should be approaching sales.

Maximise take on the premium seats, sell as many of the less popular seast as/possible , and incentivise/reward the more loyal non ST holding fans.

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JustMike

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Yes, that is exactly what I am saying... why do you think most clubs put season tickets on sale before the end of the season? Because it is the best time to capture people.

 

Of course there is the hardcore which will renew... but for some people SFC is now at the back of their minds again and it will be har to recapture them to get them to commit to a season ticket.

 

Listen, as I keep saying and for some whacky reason, nobody can understand... there is a reason that every single club if possible get their season tickets on sale before the end of the previous season is.................... because it sells the most season tickets by doing it this way!

 

ahh now you see this is where i think you are wrong. In most cases yes you would expect them to go on sale straight away etc etc but for me the signs are there that next season "should" be awesome, ie top 2 finish, new signings, watching a team playing good football and for these reasons sfc wont be at the back of peoples minds, especially if the new season tickets are at a good price. So yes, the hardcore percentage will renew / buy but i bet there will be plenty more who buy regardless of how early they go on sale.

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The9

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There is not a single shred of evidence in that article to support the headline.

 

Pure speculation - as was the Echo article on the weekend / start of the week saying exactly the same thing.

 

Hell, even on HERE we've struggled to put a new spin on the tired "waiting for STs" thread, dunno why the Echo thinks they can string it out.

 

I guess at some point the club HAS to announce something, and if they keep saying "soon" then eventually they'll be right.

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I've spoke with a friend of mine within the club and he said that they will definitely be on sale either the end of this week or the start of next week.

 

If that's the case I'm surprised there hasn't been an announcement by now.

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SaintRichmond

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Can't help but think that a lot of people are going to be disappointed when the season tickets aren't £125.

 

OK, 125 years is a mile stone, but WHY do people think the Club should deliberately lose revenue bu what would be a crazy £125 ST ???

 

Makes no sense

 

Next season, (hopefully) we will be watching a very serious Promotion Push

 

That will mean even MORE outlay from Mr Leibherr, coupled with even more outlay re Players Salaries

 

Celebrate our 125 Years by all means, but not by foregoing what would be Millions in Revenue through the turnstiles:cool:

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Because I know I will spend it on holiday, not because I want to! I saved it in premium bonds over the course of the last season and then converted it back into cash at the end of the season so it was ready in my bank account to buy the season tix. Now I am soon off on holiday and I just know that once the beer starts to flow it will 'magically' disappear!

 

Take it out of the bank and leave it at home with your mum like all the children who can't manage there own money do. It's no disgrace even the mega rich Chris Moyles lets his mum look after his cash as he does not trust himself.

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Matthew Le God

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I wonder if they bit about £125 tickets is based on my thread? In which I made it quite clear I didn't think it would happen but just raised it as a discussion point. Do discussions on here really deserve being reported in the cities press? They use rumours from this site to add to their Saints transfer article even if they are completely unfounded.

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Danny R

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Does anyone else think that the launch could be delayed to allow for world cup/football fever to take hold? A clever launch during the build up could be a clever marketing ploy.

 

It could just be that NC wants to delay the build up for as long as possible, increasing speculation/demand for tickets. No such thing as bad publicity!

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Matthew Le God

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No, I don't.

 

Then why is Simon Francis on the list? The Sky Sports article clicking his name links to makes no reference to Southampton. There was however a thread on this forum where it was merely suggested that Saints "may" be the club.

 

If you click on Mike Grella the source is a Leeds forum. So they clearly forums have been used so you can't deny you don't use forums.

 

Where have the Luke Varney, Lee Trundle, Jamie Ward, Darcey Blake, Danny Ings rumours come from as there are no sources provided for these?

 

Where did the "speculation for the £125 season tickets" come from in an article today? Was it the thread on here where I merely used it as a discussion point and said I thought it very unlikely to happen or even this thread?

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Then why is Simon Francis on the list? The Sky Sports article clicking his name links to makes no reference to Southampton. There was however a thread on this forum where it was merely suggested that Saints "may" be the club.

 

If you click on Mike Grella the source is a Leeds forum. So they clearly forums have been used so you can't deny you don't use forums.

 

Where have the Luke Varney, Lee Trundle, Jamie Ward, Darcey Blake, Danny Ings rumours come from as there are no sources provided for these?

 

Where did the "speculation for the £125 season tickets" come from in an article today? Was it the thread on here where I merely used it as a discussion point and said I thought it very unlikely to happen or even this thread?

Believe it or not, there is a world outside this forum :rolleyes:

 

I heard the £125 rumour months ago, long before it appeared on here.

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