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[MorningtonCrescent]

I tore my acl over a year ago and had to take up a different form of excercise rather than football until it was sorted.

 

Hit the gym 5 times a week for the past 11 months... Mainly weight training with the odd bit of cardio. I didn't diet as such, just ate a bit more sensibly and limited the beer intake to once every fortnight.

 

I now weigh a stone less through a lower body fat percentage, but at the same time I have packed on alot of muscle.

 

Good luck with the op... Had mine 3 weeks ago. Counting down the days until I can return to the gym.

 

Reconstruction? Who was your consultant? It seems that the NHS lottery is in full swing when it comes to ACL ops! Some are great, others are ..... not so great....

 

Someone I ave spoken to has had 6 repairs to his ACL and is still suffering problems. He suggests getting a "cryo-cuff" to help keep the swelling down (says it's far better than a bag of peas!). Anyone else got any recommendations??

[Colbury]

Reconstruction? Who was your consultant? It seems that the NHS lottery is in full swing when it comes to ACL ops! Some are great, others are ..... not so great....

 

Someone I ave spoken to has had 6 repairs to his ACL and is still suffering problems. He suggests getting a "cryo-cuff" to help keep the swelling down (says it's far better than a bag of peas!). Anyone else got any recommendations??

 

 

Yes ACL reconstruction using a graft from my hamstring.

 

Consultant was a Mr Dunlop, and had it at the general.

 

The NHS are a bunch of c*nts when it comes to ACL problems in my experience.

 

 

As for cryo-cuff, I just went for the old fashioned bag of peas in the days following my op. Had minimal swelling anyway, which is partly down to the surgeon being half decent I'd have thought.

[MorningtonCrescent]

Yes ACL reconstruction using a graft from my hamstring.

 

Consultant was a Mr Dunlop, and had it at the general.

 

The NHS are a bunch of c*nts when it comes to ACL problems in my experience.

 

 

As for cryo-cuff, I just went for the old fashioned bag of peas in the days following my op. Had minimal swelling anyway, which is partly down to the surgeon being half decent I'd have thought.

 

Good luck with the recovery then. Sounds like you're on the mend. I have the dubious pleasure of awaiting the specialist's advice and then the road to recovery might begin!

[saint_stevo]

Alzhiemers a killer too eh ??

 

Alzhiemers a killer too eh ??

 

 

You tell me

[saint_stevo]

FWIW my reconstruction was done by Klaus Hilt, at New Hall in Salisbury using a Patella graft (was offered private on the NHS, thought why not!) and it has largely been fine (other than slipping up about 3 months post op while standing it at Linesman....FAIL)

 

Later found out he is affiliated with either the German F.A, or the English F.A as a lower limb specialist (was originally told German, then when i went for a checkup, he had an 'English F.A Staff' tie on.....)

[Smirking_Saint]

You tell me

 

was sort of my point :smt012

[Colbury]

Loads on here have done their ACL, odd bearing in mind it's quite a rare injury.

[St Marco]

I do boxing and have for about 10 years now. If your wanting to get into shape i can't recomend it enough. You don't need to actually fight if you don't want too but the actual preperation is very good. Even if you can't be arsed with that just getting a punch bag and a few dumbells will do. Do a 30min session on the bag and 15 on the weights and your be sorted in no time. I also find smacking stuff quite Therapeutic as can relieve a lot of stress.

But they say if you want to lose weight must remember that it is 90% diet, 10% exercise. No point running around doing all the hard work if your eating enough for 5 every day

[saint_stevo]

Loads on here have done their ACL, odd bearing in mind it's quite a rare injury.

 

 

I blame blades

[Smirking_Saint]

I blame blades

 

I do to,

 

Weirdly i had similar thoughts to colbury, lately there seems to be many many knee injuries.

 

Growing up you never really heard of knee injuries like you do now and they seem to be so much more common.

 

I know loads of people that have done it, in my football team this season alone there was 3 serious knee injuries this year, two ACL, one cartialage.

 

I re-snapped mine last year and i know of 3 other people that have done it.

 

Also a guy i do my degree with, there are only 9 of us, and he has snapped his ACL as well.

 

Must be something in the water ??

 

My consultant/Surgeon was Mr Fox and Mr Hartwright BTW, Mr Fox will no doubt carry out the op again.

[Colbury]

I blame blades

 

I blame brain dead clumbsy Sunday morning pub team players who go through the back of you about 10 minutes after the balls gone.

[saint_stevo]

I blame brain dead clumbsy Sunday morning pub team players who go through the back of you about 10 minutes after the balls gone.

 

 

On a sunday, that is usually me tbf. Hungover.

 

Saturdays i am a cultured ball player

 

WAS i should say

[saints-cris]

My doc when i had mine done said for every thousand minutes of footy played across the country, 6-7 people have that injury. So it is pretty common!

[StuRomseySaint]

My doc when i had mine done said for every thousand minutes of footy played across the country, 6-7 people have that injury. So it is pretty common!

 

So he reckons every 11 games you till get that injury 6 or 7 times?

[Colbury]

My doc when i had mine done said for every thousand minutes of footy played across the country, 6-7 people have that injury. So it is pretty common!

 

I never knew of anyone who had done it prior to doing mine and I've played since I was 8.

 

I only know of 1 other person I've played with who has done the same, and that was around the same time I tore mine.

Edited 18 May, 2010 by Colbury

[Nexstar]

Was an interesting read on the website, gonna give the pushups a go and see how I get on.

[thefunkygibbons]

Gym thought

 

For those up the road, the Gym in Guildford is pretty handy, open 24/7 and cheap too

 

With no contract, you can join and quit any time

 

http://www.thegymgroup.com/

[anothersaintinsouthsea]

So he reckons every 11 games you till get that injury 6 or 7 times?

 

Not quite, 6/7 players out of 22 players playing will pick up a similar injury for every 1000 minutes played. Seems a bit high to me.

[StuRomseySaint]

Gym thought

 

For those up the road, the Gym in Guildford is pretty handy, open 24/7 and cheap too

 

With no contract, you can join and quit any time

 

http://www.thegymgroup.com/

 

I don't think they will work... or at least they will until someone has an injury and sues the arse out of them, regardless of t's & c's

[thesaint sfc]

My arms are alright and I'm a bit of a health freak so it's not my diet, but I'd like to tone up at bit. I think sit ups are going to be the best thing for me. Can anyone recommend something to keep my feet down? I've tried putting them under my chest of draws and it f*cking kills my feet. I'd also like to do some pull ups. Anything anyone can recommend for a bar for that? I don't really want one that goes in the door way otherwise I'll probably end up like one of those people in youtube with a broken nose.

[thesaint sfc]

Gym thought

 

For those up the road, the Gym in Guildford is pretty handy, open 24/7 and cheap too

 

With no contract, you can join and quit any time

 

http://www.thegymgroup.com/

 

They do look really good. I'd love to join the one in Brighton but I'll need to checkout their parking before I do that as that would be the only problem there!

[StuRomseySaint]

I am 3 days into my latest lard-off... although I am going for it this time and expect to lose at least a stone over the next month and around 20lbs between now and 15th July, which will put me back into the 'average' body fat mass.

 

6 days training a week.

 

Day 1 - 60 mins Cardio - Interval Training

Day 2 - 40 mins Cardio / Full body weights

Day 3 - 60 mins Cardio - Fat burning training

Day 4 - 40 mins Cardio / Full body weights

Day 5 - 60 mins Cardio - Interval training

Day 6 - 40 mins Cardio / Full body weights

Day 7 - Rest from gym - 18 holes of golf / swim / long walk.

 

Diet-wise I am sticking to low carbs and plenty of protein, chicken and/or tuna most days, no bread, pasta or potato. Lots of fruit and veg and no beer apart from on rest day.

 

On the weights side of things starting off light and cranking up the weight week by week.

 

I am tempted to have a go at the situp challenge as well but I think that might be one step too far and could risk burnout.

 

208lbs ( fatty ) as of yesterday. Off I go. :cool:

Edited 19 May, 2010 by StuRomseySaint

[thesaint sfc]

Humph. You try getting lots of protein and eating no pasta when you're a vegetarian! I could eat more tuna though I guess (I eat fish still)

[StuRomseySaint]

Humph. You try getting lots of protein and eating no pasta when you're a vegetarian! I could eat more tuna though I guess (I eat fish still)

 

Tuna is just about the best protein you can get. Also, use protein shakes and meal replacements if you are veggie.

 

The best way either to build muscle or lose weight is eating 6 times a day.

 

7 am Breakfast

10 am Protein Shake / Meal replacement

1 pm Smaller Lunch ( tuna and veg for example )

4pm Protein Shake / Meal replacement

7pm Dinner

9pm Small supper snack ( fruit, cottage cheese, crackers etc )

[Colbury]

Lol @ thesaint being a veggie. Pretty unmanly if you ask me. Never met a veggie who isn't female, or are you a bird? Would make sense..

 

Stu giving out diet tips is quite amusing also...

[thesaint sfc]

Are you really that into these protein shakes? I've been told by loads of people that they're a waste of time. What ones are the best to get?

[StuRomseySaint]

Lol @ thesaint being a veggie. Pretty unmanly if you ask me. Never met a veggie who isn't female, or are you a bird? Would make sense..

 

Stu giving out diet tips is quite amusing also...

 

This may actually make you laugh Mr Colbury... but I am actually a qualified Army PTI from my days there as well as working in a gym for all of last year, and also working with an international/olympic athletics coach when I was a good runner back in the day. So I do know quite a bit, I just choose not to practice what I preach. :-)

Edited 19 May, 2010 by StuRomseySaint

[StuRomseySaint]

Are you really that into these protein shakes? I've been told by loads of people that they're a waste of time. What ones are the best to get?

 

Depends what you are trying to do? Lose weight or build muscle mass or both?

[thesaint sfc]

Depends what you are trying to do? Lose weight or build muscle mass or both?

 

Definitely don't need to lose weight - just tone up a bit.

[Colbury]

Protien shakes are decent post workout or for a decent protien hit between meals. However be prepared to gas out anyone around you if you start using them.

 

I'm off them while I recover from my op, and my house smells alot fresher as a result.

[thesaint sfc]

I've got a rowing machine at home but I'm not really sure how it works....lol. Guess if I worked that out it would probably help.

[StuRomseySaint]

Definitely don't need to lose weight - just tone up a bit.

 

Body for life is a great plan. 12 weeks, 6 days with one rest day but the results are massive.

 

http://bodyforlife.com/what-is-bfl

 

I have seen the results on people I have sold the plan to and the before/after pictures on the website are accurate. Not sure how being a veggie will fit in to it... although if you contact them I am sure they have a meal plan for that too.

 

As for protein, http://www.gnc.co.uk/home/index.htm ( there is one in Southampton if you are back here )

Edited 19 May, 2010 by StuRomseySaint

[thesaint sfc]

Protien shakes are decent post workout or for a decent protien hit between meals. However be prepared to gas out anyone around you if you start using them.

 

I'm off them while I recover from my op, and my house smells alot fresher as a result.

 

Yeah, don't think I need/want to go to the extremes of taking them really. More exercise and less pasta and bread.

 

Eat a lot of cheese too which probably doesn't help.

[thesaint sfc]

Body for life is a great plan. 12 weeks, 6 days with one rest day but the results are massive.

 

http://bodyforlife.com/what-is-bfl

 

I have seen the results and the before/after pictures on the site are right. Not sure how being a veggie will fit in to it... although if you contact them I am sure they have a meal plan for that too.

 

As for protein, http://www.gnc.co.uk/home/index.htm ( there is one in Southampton if you are back here )

 

Thanks mate I'll give them a go.

[thesaint sfc]

http://www.littlewoods.com/abs-board/596523292.prd?browseToken=/b/3084/s/price,1/o/4&trail=2780-3084&prdToken=/p/prod2060132-sku3265603 Looks pretty good.

[saint_stevo]

get some creatin in ya ts sfc

[Thedelldays]

get some NO Vapor or NO XPLODE to intensify your work out...

 

maybe get some low carb protein shake for after (although I dont like these)

failing that, I know of a few sites to get you stuff for that little "extra"

[thesaint sfc]

Gunna get these I think:

 

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3026191/Trail/searchtext%3ESITUPS.htm

 

Not really sure how the pull up things work but meh.

[Thedelldays]

Gunna get these I think:

 

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/3026191/Trail/searchtext%3ESITUPS.htm

 

Not really sure how the pull up things work but meh.

 

if you want to do sit ups/press ups...you dont need gimmicks..just a mat to lay on and yourself....

 

a chin up bar is only worth while if you can put it way above head height

[thesaint sfc]

if you want to do sit ups/press ups...you dont need gimmicks..just a mat to lay on and yourself....

 

a chin up bar is only worth while if you can put it way above head height

 

I need something to do press ups with as I haven't got anything in the house that really works to keep my feet down. Tried sofa/chest of draws and both kill my feet

[StuRomseySaint]

I need something to do press ups with as I haven't got anything in the house that really works to keep my feet down. Tried sofa/chest of draws and both kill my feet

 

How on earth can't you keep your feet down when doing press-ups? :confused:

[Johnny Shearer]

I do boxing and have for about 10 years now. If your wanting to get into shape i can't recomend it enough. You don't need to actually fight if you don't want too but the actual preperation is very good. Even if you can't be arsed with that just getting a punch bag and a few dumbells will do. Do a 30min session on the bag and 15 on the weights and your be sorted in no time. I also find smacking stuff quite Therapeutic as can relieve a lot of stress.

But they say if you want to lose weight must remember that it is 90% diet, 10% exercise. No point running around doing all the hard work if your eating enough for 5 every day

 

That must another one of those random quotes surely. As I eat sensibly but still dont shift the fat - hence the exercise!

[thesaint sfc]

How on earth can't you keep your feet down when doing press-ups? :confused:

 

sit ups....shh

[StuRomseySaint]

That must another one of those random quotes surely. As I eat sensibly but still dont shift the fat - hence the exercise!

 

It is a random quote, I would put them at about 50/50, if not then slightly swayed towards exercise.

 

For every 1lb of muscle which you put on, you will burn an extra 50 calories a day, so if you pub on 10lb of muscle through weights then you resting metabolic rate will rise 500 calories a day... which is a much easier way to lose weight than trying to diet to a much lower calories per day with no exercise.

 

For example, when I was in the Army I was tonked right up and my diet was about 5000 calories a day ( about double the RDA ) but due to the muscle mass from the training I was doing, I burnt it off each day and hardly had any fat on me.

 

The food was hardly healthy either, lots of fried foods, fried breakfasts, kebabs etc, I never once dieted, just trained hard. That's anoter thing though, if you train hard and build yourself up... when you stop it makes it fookin hard to keep the weight off... which is why I am now a fatteh :-(

Edited 19 May, 2010 by StuRomseySaint

[Sev]

a chin up bar is only worth while if you can put it way above head height

 

The 'powerbar' design is quite good for that:

http://www.ukfitnesssupplies.co.uk/productdetail.asp?productcatalogue=POWERBAR

 

I used one for about a year and it worked well. Then I moved house last year and all of our doorways are in room corners or the doors open the wrong way, which means I don't get to use it any more. So if anyone in Southampton wants one on the cheap...

 

That's anoter thing though, if you train hard and build yourself up... when you stop it makes it fookin hard to keep the weight off... which is why I am now a fatteh :-(

Agree with that - I've known a few ex army and ex pro sportsmen, who all became fatsos once they moved into 'ordinary' jobs.

[Smirking_Saint]

It is a random quote, I would put them at about 50/50, if not then slightly swayed towards exercise.

 

For every 1lb of muscle which you put on, you will burn an extra 50 calories a day, so if you pub on 10lb of muscle through weights then you resting metabolic rate will rise 500 calories a day... which is a much easier way to lose weight than trying to diet to a much lower calories per day with no exercise.

 

For example, when I was in the Army I was tonked right up and my diet was about 5000 calories a day ( about double the RDA ) but due to the muscle mass from the training I was doing, I burnt it off each day and hardly had any fat on me.

 

The food was hardly healthy either, lots of fried foods, fried breakfasts, kebabs etc, I never once dieted, just trained hard. That's anoter thing though, if you train hard and build yourself up... when you stop it makes it fookin hard to keep the weight off... which is why I am now a fatteh :-(

 

yeah, pretty much why i don't want to build loads and loads of muscle.

 

When i was at College i was more toned and had an athletic physique, never a hulking one.

 

That is what i want to get back, i understand it takes a while, but i am not silly, if i build loads of bulk i know i won't keep up the work.

 

But, hey ho, the slimming comes first, did my first real weigh in today, and want to lose at least 4 lbs in 2 weeks, that is my minimum target, i given my self a relative day off from exercise and diet on Sundays (like Stu) but have told myself if i don't hit the minimum than i don't get the day off. (2 lbs a week)

 

4 lbs may be too low but i don't know what i should be working off, if i find it easy i'll push it up.

[Thedelldays]

http://www.bodyshapersfitness.com/nitric_oxide/nano-vapor-muscletech_nano_vapor_1kg.htm?gclid=CM3GjODO3qECFVOY2AodOkrPJw

[Smirking_Saint]

Although this is going quite well ATM, looks like i now need to get as fit as possible in about 3 months.

 

Confirmed this morning that i have torn my left ACL again, and will have to have the reconstruction before sept.

 

Bad times

 

The thing that annoys me the most though is that if they had got a finger out this could have been diagnosed a year ago and so would be pretty much ready to return to sport by now.

[Colbury]

I feel your pain mate.

 

I was fobbed off for ages and it took me 15 months to get mine sorted - and that was only because I forced the issue, demanding 2nd opinions etc. Had I gone with what some of the physios/specialists told me I'd still have been miles away from having it sorted.

 

I'm 4 weeks post op now and doing well. So glad I put in all those hours in the gym in the last year as it really has put me in good stead.

[Smirking_Saint]

I feel your pain mate.

 

I was fobbed off for ages and it took me 15 months to get mine sorted - and that was only because I forced the issue, demanding 2nd opinions etc. Had I gone with what some of the physios/specialists told me I'd still have been miles away from having it sorted.

 

I'm 4 weeks post op now and doing well. So glad I put in all those hours in the gym in the last year as it really has put me in good stead.

 

Fortunately (well unfortunately lol) i have done it before so i know what i am getting in to, going to put in some gym hours, my Quads are pretty big anyway naturally so it puts me in good stead but need to shift some pounds to get myself ready.

 

As for the NHS, i just don't accept anyone saying they are in a good place under labour, for serious injuries and problems yes but i said from the first time i tweaked it last March it was my cruciate and has taken until today for them to accept it. And yes, i had to force the issue, it just pains me really, all it would have taken was a 2nd opinion, but hey ho, end in site now, after Sept i am only 6 months from putting the predators back on.