suewhistle Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 ..... or at least have some interesting insights.... http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/16/dubai-sex-tourism-prostitution Jeez, and they call the British hypocritical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 it is rife in the gulf states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 :-) Where to start. Standard Operating Procedure in every bar when you get that Where you Flom (sic) line "I'm awfully sorry, you cannot afford me" They normally clear off... This is a rehash of a Tmes article from about 7 years ago (for which they got banned for a month), but there are more Hookers per square mile in this town than anywhere else on the planet. It is all a very big business with a whole story I can't type on a public forum as I have to live here. So the history Why? Easy - don't think simply ex-pat think of all the strict Islamic countries that surround here. A release valve. When? Started when the Berlin Wall came down. The first Russian traders arrived and bought consumer goods for cash here. Roubles to dollars were scarce in those days, the profits on the goods in Russia were huge and they quickly realised that they had a commodity back home that was in demand, created cash and so they started to send planes full of electronics out of here and bring back planes full of Women. In those days most were volunteers who could work here for a 44 day visa and make a fortune. the Russian businessmen relocated here, we had gang wars and shootings, most stayed up in Ajman and the girls stayed in Sharjah. Many stayed on and married their long term clients and now are happy in their 4x4's. Gradually it became a flood and Human trafficking became rife "Dancers & Waitresses" were recruited and forced into it. As demand grew, the "mafia" sought lower cost labouor, especially from China and a second wave arrived. All this is at the High to Medium end of the market, there were 1 & 2* hotels where they just locked up other Asian women and the labourers could be serviced for between Aed 50 and Aed 100 (8-18 quid) (Go figure). That is still rife and now this city is awash with them. Do we bother? No. Why? Well, you know the saying, Chinese Takeaways are all very well but 20 minutes later you want another one. Why do they "turn a blind eye"? Sheikh Rashid the founder of the UAE is alleged to have said along the lines of "There must NEVER be Gambling in this country, but if we are to import the millions of single male labourers that this country will need then we may need to be aware that they would need a release valve or we could have "Bigger" problems". And, in all fairness it is wrong, it is FECKING annoying when you go out BUT it does keep down the "problems" of a demographic where there are 14 men to each woman. And finally The Seaview (Our most loved place) Is a Hooker Bar. It is however also possible to see the place as a cartoon copy. hence on one level you are aware of the Sadness and exploitation, but on the other the parody is such that you CAN take your Children, Girlfriends, CEO & Clients and have a really fun evening listeing to the music. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 16 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Standard Operating Procedure in every bar when you get that Where you Flom (sic) line "I'm awfully sorry, you cannot afford me" They normally clear off... It is all a very big business with a whole story I can't type on a public forum as I have to live here. Ta for that DB even if you can't be more explicit. If I were in that position (I presume there isn't such a big gigolo problem..) I'd just say, "Sorry, I'm an English teacher", and they'd leave for somebody else with money... Bit worried about they - "normally" - clear off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S41NTS Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 I've been fortunate to work in many countries around the world, including Dubai & Abu Dhabi. In my experience blatant prostitution is common in lots of strict muslim countries as is the consumption of alcohol. It always surprises me when I hear stories of western people being arrested for doing something that many of the locals do all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Ta for that DB even if you can't be more explicit. If I were in that position (I presume there isn't such a big gigolo problem..) I'd just say, "Sorry, I'm an English teacher", and they'd leave for somebody else with money... Bit worried about they - "normally" - clear off! Story. In bar "Where loo flom?" I answer Jumeira "Where Lat?" That way I say pointing left "I flom China" Oh, is that near Sharjah? "What? loo clazy" "loo velly nice I take you home" You want to take me home - I do a cartoon survey of the "product offering" - OK then I say. "Good we go. OK. Onry 500 dilhams" Uh, sorry, I reply, no way, you want to take ME home, sorry that will cost you 1,500 Dirhams. "Wot loo no unnelstand" Oh yes my friend of course I understand now show me the money or feck off and let me watch the band...... My 21 year old son was taught that trick when I took him to the Seaview. Should have seen his face the first 3 times he used that line think there was some revenge in there somewhere... Until the 4th one got the cash out. Dad, now what the hell do I do? Well son, you're a Student and broke, she's actually quite fit. I should tell you it is a bad thing, or I could tell you not to wake me up when you get back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Lol! That story is brilliant! Have you got any more brilliant stories like that one, dubai phil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 phil, imgine what would have went down if you were not there with your son Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 :-) The Seaview (Our most loved place) Is a Hooker Bar. It is however also possible to see the place as a cartoon copy. hence on one level you are aware of the Sadness and exploitation, but on the other the parody is such that you CAN take your Children, Girlfriends, CEO & Clients and have a really fun evening listeing to the music. HTH Phil you really know how to impress Children, Girlfriends, CEO & Clients!. From Time Out: Sea View Hotel, The Marine Club, 3/7 The Sea View Hotel is full of dubious charms. Not least because the sea view actually refers to the giant industrial complex that is Port Rashid across the street. Finding the aquatic-themed club is also a top quality backstreet bar experience. The bar is located out through the back of the lobby, through the service area and kitchens, and then up the fire escape and in through another back door. If you can live with the fact every song from the talented Filipino band will be an ’80s MOR anthem, and ignore the attentions of certain sections of the clientele, you can enjoy the experience for what it is – unpretentious, shabbily-dressed fun. The Marine Club, Sea View Hotel, Mina Road (04 355 8080). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 16 May, 2010 Share Posted 16 May, 2010 Phil you really know how to impress Children, Girlfriends, CEO & Clients!. From Time Out: Sea View Hotel, The Marine Club, 3/7 The Sea View Hotel is full of dubious charms. Not least because the sea view actually refers to the giant industrial complex that is Port Rashid across the street. Finding the aquatic-themed club is also a top quality backstreet bar experience. The bar is located out through the back of the lobby, through the service area and kitchens, and then up the fire escape and in through another back door. If you can live with the fact every song from the talented Filipino band will be an ’80s MOR anthem, and ignore the attentions of certain sections of the clientele, you can enjoy the experience for what it is – unpretentious, shabbily-dressed fun. The Marine Club, Sea View Hotel, Mina Road (04 355 8080). What you have to remember is that Dubai is Bling Central - everything is slick chill out lounge style with ludicrously priced drinks and Asian "Yeah I gotta groovy name & wannabe Hip" DJ's from Asia earning US$300 a month If the bar doesn't have chill out tunes it has a DJ playing Cheese or a band playing covers of Madonna/Kylie all night - pure vomit inducing schmaltz. So getting a set of old US Stadium Anthems from the 80's with a smattering of Queen & Pink Floud and the occassional Hendrix thrown in is like an antidode to this whole Bling culture. It IS a cack hole but it is a nugget. All the tourists cannot understand why the Bass player isn't off earning a real career. if you can get past the dodgy accents in the songs (which a few pints normally do). There are two other bars like it with good "antidote Bands" Music Room at the Majestic Hotel & the Presidents Hotel bar. Best proper "Western" Cover band is in Rock Bottom. Best ever Pub Band back in the early mid 90's was at Pancho Villas (now a horrid cheap Hooker Bar) but in those days they were stunning and a close second were the band at The Alamo then Carters, Bryan Adams, Ronan Keating & Rod Stewart have all got up on stage and played with them, Big Life is their name singer looks like Sade & Guitarist looked like Gazza, downside they played Madge & Kylie all night. Carters was home for the England team on their way to Japan in 2002 and yes Kadeem there is a story about the Team & Emirates girls that can never be told on a public forum from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 So, that's why you get so many visitors from the UK :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 Dubai sounds like my kinda place, so may come over! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 So, that's why you get so many visitors from the UK :D They come once and then just keep coming..... Strangely, on a different note, every summer we get an infestation of Premier League players AND Managers here. I'm sure they journey here for the Beaches and the fact they get ignored by us lot. (Yeah right by June it's 40C out there) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 I'm shocked .... I'm glad I live the life of a Trappist Monk and don't let myself get dragged into these dens of depravation by Phil :smt081 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 They come once and then just keep coming..... Strangely, on a different note, every summer we get an infestation of Premier League players AND Managers here. I'm sure they journey here for the Beaches and the fact they get ignored by us lot. Having read The Guardian Article I bet Avram is searching for a way to get another nationality Passport ... his Israeli one won't cut the ice here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 Having read The Guardian Article I bet Avram is searching for a way to get another nationality Passport ... his Israeli one won't cut the ice here Oh now come on I avoided naming any names and what do you do....:smt081 Had 2 Brits down last week, got dragged down the Seaview, the band have a new 2nd Guitarist and have finally started to play some more recent and Indie type stuff, not many but it is a start. BTW MLT was in town at the weekend, Black Tie Charity Dinner at The Creek - 150 quid a ticket. And no we didn't go Bit like Avram now - circumstances changed couldn't find my Thai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 (edited) So let me get this straight; I give my girlfriend a kiss then I can get rid of her for a month an then go whoreing? Awesome. Edited 17 May, 2010 by Draino76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 So let me get this straight; I give my girlfriend a kiss then I can get rid of her for a month an then go whoreing? Awesome. In a way I suppose, Yes you could ... the trouble is you'd be peddling your puckering a hole to sex starved 6ft 6 tall Pathan taxi drivers and labourers ... what ever floats your boat I suppose :smt047 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 May, 2010 Share Posted 17 May, 2010 In a way I suppose, Yes you could ... the trouble is you'd be peddling your puckering a hole to sex starved 6ft 6 tall Pathan taxi drivers and labourers ... what ever floats your boat I suppose :smt047 Hehehe. Not sure that is quite what he meant. The Marketing side of this is the classic for Draino.... I'm going to Thailand on business (Civil War not withstanding) Answer No you are fecking not, I know what business you are thinking about take that you Sod, whack I'm going to Dubai on Business. Ooh that sounds exciting can you get me something nice from the Gold Soukh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 17 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 17 May, 2010 Great story, Phil. We won't ask what happened in the end to your son! Oh yes, another fend-off the gigolo problem would be "Sorry, I'm a football player"..(which is true) or I suppose for a US cultural reference .. "Sorry, I'm a softball player". :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 May, 2010 Share Posted 19 May, 2010 mariners or the york bar..phil, any good..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 19 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 May, 2010 mariners or the york bar..phil, any good..? Oh gawd, now look what I've started.;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 19 May, 2010 Share Posted 19 May, 2010 mariners or the york bar..phil, any good..? Mariners (Seaview) is more fun and the band is better. Yorke is much much bigger and the product on offer has a wider range of choice (ie it's not a Chinese Takeaway). The band there is also good and a Western one so the accents don't annoy so much. So if somebody is window shopping or taking tourists around Yorke wins. For a fun night out and go home alone Mariners every time. (Would NEVER take the kids for a night out at the Yorke for example, but 1st thing on their itinerary when they come is the night at Mariners) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 22 June, 2010 Share Posted 22 June, 2010 Tee hee, so it seems that Dubai isn't the only Middle Eastern city that suffers. The Bahrainis are not happy either. Note the "who owns the hotels where this goes on bit" Oh and it may explain why some people like the idea of travelling to Bahrain for the GP http://business.maktoob.com/20090000482990/Manama_on_alert_for_summer_sex_tourists/Article.htm?utm_campaign=Night-Newsletter&utm_medium=Main-News3&utm_source=Night-Newsletter&utm_content= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 22 June, 2010 Share Posted 22 June, 2010 may i also add If Phil brings you a bottle of wine and it says Lebanese on the label, dont give it away. Keep it for yourself as it is wonderful. i made them istake of opening it with friends and soon realised I shouldn't have. It was too good to waste on mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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