del boy Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Surprised Semi is off. I'm not....we must surely be lining up someone with an easier name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 (edited) The gaps in the squad/numbers up for grabs. Think Connolly or Barnard will be after the No.9 shirt. 1 Kelvin Davis Goalkeeper 2 Dan Harding Defender 3 4 Jason Puncheon Midfielder 5 6 Radhi Jaidi Defender 7 Richard Lambert Striker 8 9 10 Paul Wotton Midfielder 11 Lee Holmes Midfielder 12 Jose Fonte Defender 13 Tommy Forecast Goalkeeper 14 Dean Hammond Midfielder 15 16 17 Lee Barnard Striker 18 Joseph Mills Defender 19 Morgan Schneiderlin Midfielder 20 Adam Lallana Striker 21 Anthony Pulis Midfielder 22 Lee Molyneux Defender 23 24 27 28 Bartosz Bialkowski Goalkeeper 29 Oscar Gobern Midfielder 30 31 Ryan Doble Midfielder 32 Andrej Pernecky Goalkeeper 33 Jack Saville Defender 34 Callum McNish Midfielder 35 Daniel Seaborne Defender 36 Garyn Preen Midfielder 37 38 David Connolly Striker 39 Aaron Martin Defender 40 41 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Midfielder 44 Ben Reeves Defender Edited 15 May, 2010 by Saints67 Rickie Lambert missing from OS Squad List!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Disappointed that Michael Poke has been released. Saints have stuck with him for several years and he has now gained valuable league experience elsewhere. Frankly he is a better prospect than Bart and certainly than Forecast, but I guess that with Forecast still under contact for another 3 years retaining 5 keepers was not an option. Poke is proving to be a very very good keeper even when playing in a mediocre side. Just hope Torquay have the resources to offer him a full time contract.. Maybe we did offer him a contract, but he didn't fancy sitting around playing second/third fiddle? after a couple of seasons of first-team football, Poke is probably looking for that rather than just being on the bench here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Not really surprised by most of that list, looks like a clearing of the decks for 4/5 really good replacements. Only surprise as expressed above is we didn't keep at least 1 of Thomas, Semi or James as cover at right back, as it seems we have Calderon almost tied up. Hope that a deal to bring Antonio back can be sorted out. And I hope we can get Bart to re-sign for us. As for the rest thanks for your effort, and all the best for the future. Busy few weeks for AP & NC coming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 If we can shift: Molyneux, Forecast, Pulis, Wotton and Holmes. That'll be all the deadwood IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spades Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 The gaps in the squad/numbers up for grabs. Think Connolly or Barnard will be after the No.9 shirt. 1 Kelvin Davis Goalkeeper 2 Dan Harding Defender 3 4 Jason Puncheon Midfielder 5 6 Radhi Jaidi Defender 8 9 10 Paul Wotton Midfielder 11 Lee Holmes Midfielder 12 Jose Fonte Defender 13 Tommy Forecast Goalkeeper 14 Dean Hammond Midfielder 15 16 17 Lee Barnard Striker 18 Joseph Mills Defender 19 Morgan Schneiderlin Midfielder 20 Adam Lallana Striker 21 Anthony Pulis Midfielder 22 Lee Molyneux Defender 23 24 27 28 Bartosz Bialkowski Goalkeeper 29 Oscar Gobern Midfielder 30 31 Ryan Doble Midfielder 32 Andrej Pernecky Goalkeeper 33 Jack Saville Defender 34 Callum McNish Midfielder 35 Daniel Seaborne Defender 36 Garyn Preen Midfielder 37 38 David Connolly Striker 39 Aaron Martin Defender 40 41 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Midfielder 44 Ben Reeves Defender Has Lambert been released aswell? And as a result we retired the number 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 For those expecting Poolis to get released in August, I should point out that all football contracts of at least one year run from July 1st. Interesting to see Lloyd James' deal last summer was an extension. Not really surprised at any of them, either old players, young players who never proved themselves (sometimes as they didn't have a chance) or players Pardew just didn't rate. I will be shocked if 3 or 4 of them don't end up at Bournemouth, maybe Perry and most likely Murty. Very pleased at Bart and Ryan Doble getting new deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 I don't understand why people want/think Lee Holmes should be let go, he's had a hard season in terms of injuries but when he came into the team for a few games he was our best player and AP spoke very highly of him. If he can stay fit he could be our surprise package next year imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Pulis still here and Wotton..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Has Lambert been released aswell? And as a result we retired the number 7? Sorted now. But that list was lifted from the OS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Very glad to see the back of James. Surprised to see all four RB options leaving though (James, Semi, Thomas and Murty), although I expect Murty may have a backroom role at some point. Slightly disappointed to see Kayne Mclaggon off as I thought with his pace we might have something for the future there. I would imagine the likes of Pulis, Molyneux, Forecast and maybe Wotton are still in contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Pulis still here and Wotton..... I think you are still struggling to understand what a retained list means! Pulis and Wotton are still under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Wowsers. No real suprising names there, except Lloydy. Shows you how far we came from early on the season, because he was the only guy who could cross the ball! We'll miss Thomas & Perry's experience, but I think we all knew they were offski anyway. Gutted for Murty too - A fit Murty would've been quality for us. So that's 4 players out who can play at Right-back!! - Methinks we'll need more than Calderon! Wonder how much we've trimmed off the wage bill with that lot? If I put my FM head on, then i'd say it's around 30k p/week which I reckon free's up wages for 3 or 4 top players at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Most disappointed to see Thomas go. Loved his commitment and no nonsense defending althought if I am brutally honnest, we can find better, younger players. Only other player I'd have kept from that list is Semi, but clearly AP has a decent RB lined up, given that he's released all 2.5 of our current options. Overall very happy to see so much dead wood leave, with the prospect of more to go as soon as we can offload Holmes, Pulis, Molly, Forecast and possibly Wotton. Delighted to see Bart gets a new deal too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 I think you are still struggling to understand what a retained list means! Pulis and Wotton are still under contract. Tbf, he struggles to have any grasp on footballing matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Most disappointed to see Thomas go. Loved his commitment and no nonsense defending althought if I am brutally honnest, we can find better, younger players. Only other player I'd have kept from that list is Semi, but clearly AP has a decent RB lined up, given that he's released all 2.5 of our current options. Thomas was on huge wages. The club has 4 centre backs now - Fonte, Jaidi, Martin and Seaborne. No need to keep Thomas when he is taking up wages that could be better used elsewhere. Calderon is about to sign, so no need to keep Otsemobor on the bench on high wages and not getting a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Thomas was on huge wages. The club has 4 centre backs now - Fonte, Jaidi, Martin and Seaborne. No need to keep Thomas when he is taking up wages that could be better used elsewhere. Calderon is about to sign, so no need to keep Otsemobor on the bench on high wages and not getting a game. Nothing to stop us offering lower wages. Supposing Thomas was on £10k a week and his only offers for next season were £2kpw. If we offered him £3kpw he would stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Nothing to stop us offering lower wages. Supposing Thomas was on £10k a week and his only offers for next season were £2kpw. If we offered him £3kpw he would stay. But if Pardew rates Fonte, Seaborne, Jaidi and Martin as above Thomas in the pecking order there is little point even offering him £2k p/w to be 5th choice. May as well use that money from the budget to improve other areas such as central midfield and right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Whats the betting Lloyd James ends up at Bournemouth,Exeter or wherever,and turns out to be a revelation for them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 But if Pardew rates Fonte, Seaborne, Jaidi and Martin as above Thomas in the pecking order there is little point even offering him £2k p/w to be 5th choice. May as well use that money from the budget to improve other areas such as central midfield and right back. I was thinking more as a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Nothing to stop us offering lower wages. Supposing Thomas was on £10k a week and his only offers for next season were £2kpw. If we offered him £3kpw he would stay. Thommo will find a new club without any problems. (I just hope they sign him up on a pay-as-you-play deal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 I was thinking more as a RB. He is not a right back. He is a centre back that has been played out of position as a right back. He is not good enough at centre back and is even worse at right back and offers no attacking threat from that position which is what Pardew wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 I'm very surprised Lloyd James has been released Pardew was very keen to praise his contribution earlier in the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 I'm very surprised Lloyd James has been released Pardew was very keen to praise his contribution earlier in the season but his drop in form since xmas has been dramatic to say the least, and before that he'd only been half decent anyway. His substitute performance against Oldham summed it all up and made AP's mind up imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 When does Tommy Forecast's Anthony Pulis and Lee Molyneux contracts run out? Does anyone know? Otherwise the list is pretty much what I would have thought it would be. Its a shame to see Thomas go, but I guess he was on high wages still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Mabes Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 The only one I am gutted and suprised about is Kayne. I thought he looked really exciting when he played. A little gutted about Thomas as well, but that's thinking with my heart rather than my head, I agree we have enough CB cover and can get better RB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 When does Tommy Forecast's Anthony Pulis and Lee Molyneux contracts run out? Does anyone know? Otherwise the list is pretty much what I would have thought it would be. Its a shame to see Thomas go, but I guess he was on high wages still? Forecast has 3 years, Pulis runs out later this summer and I think Molly has 1 more year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 I am surprised at James being released but the final nail in his coffin was his performance at Gillingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 I'm very surprised Lloyd James has been released Pardew was very keen to praise his contribution earlier in the season I have it on good authority that Pardew was extremely unhappy about a number of 'incidents' involving Lloydy. One of them was involving a 'lady of the night' in Wales, but was hushed up by the club. Another was a boozy fracas, also in Wales that got back to Pardew but never made the papers. This was just prior to the JPT Final and explains his lack of appearance in the game at all. From then on, his cards were marked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 goodbye and goodluck to all the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 James is an average L1 player at best. Glad he has gone. Shame about Murty, who looked like a very good signing at the beginning of last season, marshalled the defence well but sadly injury wrecked any hopes of an extension. Agree with the rest of the releases though, if a 19/20/21yr old nipper isn't even getting near the first team squad then they obviously aren't up to it, and rightly released. Interesting to see who is now incoming. Few decent free's perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Forecast has 3 years, Pulis runs out later this summer and I think Molly has 1 more year. Thanks, I guess we are stuck with Forecast and Molyneux then, unless they pay off their contracts. Unless of course Pardew rates them. I would imagine Pulis will leave in the summer then? With 7 potential first team players gone its going to be exciting to see who we bring in to replace them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 I have it on good authority that Pardew was extremely unhappy about a number of 'incidents' involving Lloydy. One of them was involving a 'lady of the night' in Wales, but was hushed up by the club. Another was a boozy fracas, also in Wales that got back to Pardew but never made the papers. This was just prior to the JPT Final and explains his lack of appearance in the game at all. From then on, his cards were marked. Ah we now can guess what the next rumour in the Echo will be now then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Gary Dochety any one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 James is an average L1 player at best. Glad he has gone. Shame about Murty, who looked like a very good signing at the beginning of last season, marshalled the defence well but sadly injury wrecked any hopes of an extension. Agree with the rest of the releases though, if a 19/20/21yr old nipper isn't even getting near the first team squad then they obviously aren't up to it, and rightly released. Interesting to see who is now incoming. Few decent free's perhaps Kenwyne Jones? Anyway, only really surprised at McLaggon going, I thought he had a bright future ahead of him. However Pards knows more than us, and Ryan Doble must be an interesting prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Surprised at Lloyd James going, think that might prove to be a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Current: Kelvin Davis Bartosz Bialkowski Tommy Forecast Dan Harding Joseph Mills Jose Fonte Radhi Jaidi Aaron Martin Daniel Seaborne Morgan Schneiderlin Dean Hammond Adam Lallana Lee Holmes Alex Oxide-Chamberlain Jason Puncheon Richard Lambert David Connolly Lee Barnard Andrej Pernecky Jack Saville Ben Reeves Oscar Gobern Garyn Preen Ryan Doble Callum McNish Do these have future? Anthony Pulis Lee Molyneux Paul Wotton Look to buy? Right Back Centre Mid Wide Mid Striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Surprised at Lloyd James going, think that might prove to be a mistake. Why? He is a very average League 1 player. We wont get promoted with players like James in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Why? He is a very average League 1 player. We wont get promoted with players like James in the side. very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Only upset by McLaggon thought he was a prospect. One thing that does stand out is that we've lost all our pace without Papa, Antonio, semi and McLaggon. We are surely going to have to invest in some pacey widemen/wingers/strikers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Only upset by McLaggon thought he was a prospect. One thing that does stand out is that we've lost all our pace without Papa, Antonio, semi and McLaggon. We are surely going to have to invest in some pacey widemen/wingers/strikers? dont forget cental mid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Lloyd James has gone. What a fantastic day this has just become. A special thanks to Chris Perry who has given some great service over the last few years. Looks like AP will be a busy man You ghastly Nerd! What have you got against Lloyd James, he was one of the very few people who really tried to keep us up last year. Big Loss, BIG mistake! Whose mistake we'll never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 We are surely going to have to invest in some pacey widemen/wingers? Lallana and Puncheon will be first choice out wide again next season. Both are hardly slow! I also wouldn't rule out a return for Antonio (less chance with Papa Waigo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 You ghastly Nerd! What have you got against Lloyd James, he was one of the very few people who really tried to keep us up last year. Big Loss, BIG mistake! Whose mistake we'll never know. You mug- just a shame there isn't a retained list for forum members.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Surprised that Lloyd James has gone, mainly because of Pardew's praise that he was becoming a 'cracking little player' just before Xmas. Personally though I've never rated him. Here's to an active and productive transfer window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 The gaps in the squad/numbers up for grabs. Think Connolly or Barnard will be after the No.9 shirt. 1 Kelvin Davis Goalkeeper 2 Dan Harding Defender 3 4 Jason Puncheon Midfielder 5 6 Radhi Jaidi Defender 7 Richard Lambert Striker 8 9 10 Paul Wotton Midfielder 11 Lee Holmes Midfielder 12 Jose Fonte Defender 13 Tommy Forecast Goalkeeper 14 Dean Hammond Midfielder 15 16 17 Lee Barnard Striker 18 Joseph Mills Defender 19 Morgan Schneiderlin Midfielder 20 Adam Lallana Striker 21 Anthony Pulis Midfielder 22 Lee Molyneux Defender 23 24 27 28 Bartosz Bialkowski Goalkeeper 29 Oscar Gobern Midfielder 30 31 Ryan Doble Midfielder 32 Andrej Pernecky Goalkeeper 33 Jack Saville Defender 34 Callum McNish Midfielder 35 Daniel Seaborne Defender 36 Garyn Preen Midfielder 37 38 David Connolly Striker 39 Aaron Martin Defender 40 41 Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Midfielder 44 Ben Reeves Defender Give Harding 3, Calderon 2, Fonte 5, Morgan 8, Beattie 9 (Oh, alight then, Barnard), Connolly 12 and Seaborne 15. Not that it really matters of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 I think we will be more busy in the transfer market than people think with 6/7 players probably added to our squad. 2 right backs,a central defender,2 midfielders,1/2 wingers and 1/2 strikers.If Bart doesn't sign another goalkeeper.So could be upto 10 additions!!Think we will sign a few promising youngsters who don't expect first action straight away. Happy with who we have released because I think better will be available than all of them with the amount of players being released this summer.Also plenty of teams are desperate for cash so we could be able to pick up good players and cut prices. Will be a very interesting summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 So have Bart and Doble signed new contracts then? Because it says they've been offered new contracts, but it also says Connolly has been offered one further down the page - why not include them in the same list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 Lallana and Puncheon will be first choice out wide again next season. Both are hardly slow! I also wouldn't rule out a return for Antonio (less chance with Papa Waigo). you kidding my mum could out run Lallana. Much as I like Adam he doesn't have raw pace. Puncheons quicker but he just runs into dead ends a lot. We need some proper pace like Antonio that just skin backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 15 May, 2010 Share Posted 15 May, 2010 You ghastly Nerd! What have you got against Lloyd James, he was one of the very few people who really tried to keep us up last year. Big Loss, BIG mistake! Whose mistake we'll never know. Can't pass, can't cross, can't defend, can't tackle, slow, slow, slow, slow. He's an awful footballer and quite rightly AP has seen sense and got rid. Every player was trying to keep us up last year so i fail to see your point. The only player whose committment you could doubt last year was McGoldrick. Good luck to all the players that have been released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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