SO16_Saint Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I didn't vote Conservatives, but he/they have been voted in, so good luck to you and your party - you'll bl**dy well need it.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I don't think I have ever been this ****iing angry in my life. This country is totally and utterly ****ed, God help us!
Thedelldays Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I will never again say that a vote for the liberal democrats is a wasted one
CB Saint Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I will never again say that a vote for the liberal democrats is a wasted one Thorpie's anger is amusing, but to be fair I would have been furious if Lab - Lib had gone ahead.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I don't think I have ever been this ****iing angry in my life. This country is totally and utterly ****ed, God help us! Oh give it a rest FFS.
SO16_Saint Posted 11 May, 2010 Author Posted 11 May, 2010 So does this mean that for the next 5 years we have 2 "main" parties with the CONDEM coalition?
hypochondriac Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Thorpie's anger is amusing, but to be fair I would have been furious if Lab - Lib had gone ahead. So would I. This is the fairest option.
toofarnorth Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Thorpie's anger is amusing, but to be fair I would have been furious if Lab - Lib had gone ahead. Agreed. I'm a liberal supporter but it would have been suicide to join labour. Sounds like we'll get a lot of our policies on the statute book and hopefully the lib dems in the cabinet will be a controlling force over excessive spending cuts. We all know we need cuts but they will need to be combined with huge reform to ensure the quality of our public services continues to improve.
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I don't think I have ever been this ****iing angry in my life. This country is totally and utterly ****ed, God help us! Don't cry, you're now an honourary Conservative.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Interesting to hear that the Tories have dropped the married tax allowance and the Inheritance Tax proposals. They have sold their souls!
Ludwig Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Interesting to hear that the Tories have dropped the married tax allowance and the Inheritance Tax proposals. They have sold their souls! :smt096
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Don't cry, you're now an honourary Conservative. I voted Green and Labour. HTH
OldNick Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Interesting to hear that the Tories have dropped the married tax allowance and the Inheritance Tax proposals. They have sold their souls! The inheritance tax was only going to be upped later in the term, so there is plenty of time. In your lifetime a large majority houses will fall into the category that this will help, not everyone who lives in £1m houses are wealthy I dont think it is selling their souls by not pushing for the married allowance especially if they replace it with the tax threshold up to 10k, that helps all working people and makes it more paletable to find work instead of claiming. Better than crucifying their own with the 10p tax rate Lol
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 The inheritance tax was only going to be upped later in the term, so there is plenty of time. In your lifetime a large majority houses will fall into the category that this will help, not everyone who lives in £1m houses are wealthy I dont think it is selling their souls by not pushing for the married allowance especially if they replace it with the tax threshold up to 10k, that helps all working people and makes it more paletable to find work instead of claiming. Better than crucifying their own with the 10p tax rate Lol What! Even those 'living in sin'? The whole point of their married tax allowance proposal was to try to force people into marriage. As far as IHT is concerned, most estates actually have a threshold of £600K odd as one partner's allowance passes to the widowed partner anyway.
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 What! Even those 'living in sin'? The whole point of their married tax allowance proposal was to try to force people into marriage. As far as IHT is concerned, most estates actually have a threshold of £600K odd as one partner's allowance passes to the widowed partner anyway. Inheritance tax is robbing the dead.
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 This country is totally and utterly ****ed, God help us! Yes, the result of Brown's spending and bribery spree.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Inheritance tax is robbing the dead. Unless they're wealthy enough to set up complicated trust funds to avoid paying tax.
badgerx16 Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Inheritance tax is robbing the dead. Well, they can't vote :smt096
Johnny Bognor Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I don't think I have ever been this ****iing angry in my life. This country is totally and utterly ****ed Now you know what it feels like and yes I agree, the country is ****ed and hopefully we can now put that right.
Johnny Bognor Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Interesting to hear that the Tories have dropped the married tax allowance and the Inheritance Tax proposals. They have sold their souls! To be honest it has got Dave off the hook. They are now able to drop policies (that they should have dropped before the election) and now claim they were sacrificed for the common good.
1976_Child Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I don't think I have ever been this ****iing angry in my life. This country is totally and utterly ****ed, God help us! What? So you don't agree with democracy? The Conservatives won. Labour was trounced. Labour couldn't do a deal with the Liberals. The Conservatives have. Cameron is PM. The Tories are back in power. Democratically ... and what a bloody breath of fresh air it will be. Up the Saints, Up Cameron and the new Coalition.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 To be honest it has got Dave off the hook. They are now able to drop policies (that they should have dropped before the election) and now claim they were sacrificed for the common good. Eh? Economical with the truth already :shock: Oh it's so much easier being in opposition
benjii Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I don't think I have ever been this ****iing angry in my life. This country is totally and utterly ****ed, God help us! Sad and bitter.
benjii Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Interesting to hear that the Tories have dropped the married tax allowance and the Inheritance Tax proposals. They have sold their souls! A compromise in a coalition... **** me with a wet kipper, fancy that! Or they've acknowledged they really are not the most important policies and not worth the air-time the class obsessed, bitter Labourites wanted to give them.
Rebel Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 You do realize we are now ruled by people straight from the playing fields of Eton! Quite literally. Both Cameron and Clegg went to Eton and both were members of the Bullingdon Club at Oxford! The ruling class has returned!
LGTL Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 You do realize we are now ruled by people straight from the playing fields of Eton! Quite literally. Both Cameron and Clegg went to Eton and both were members of the Bullingdon Club at Oxford! The ruling class has returned! And Benjii asks why class is being spoken about...
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 You do realize we are now ruled by people straight from the playing fields of Eton! Quite literally. Both Cameron and Clegg went to Eton and both were members of the Bullingdon Club at Oxford! The ruling class has returned! I rejoice that we have a well educated leader. It makes me feel very proud. When David Cameron represents us on the world stage his intellect and his accent will raise our nations profile and prestige.
LGTL Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Dune, you do realise where the surname "Cameron" originates from, don't you?
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I rejoice that we have a well educated leader. It makes me feel very proud. When David Cameron represents us on the world stage his intellect and his accent will raise our nations profile and prestige. It's taken a while, but I've just realised that you are actually of the Left and a wind-up merchant.
benjii Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 And Benjii asks why class is being spoken about... I'm asking why it's an issue. Not surprising some jealous/ignorant types want to bleat on about it. Quite frankly, if you don't think the best governors come from amongst the best educated then you are barking mad IMO. I would recommend this - - as a starting point. A bit idealistic, I admit, but should hopefully point you in roughly the right direction.
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 It's taken a while, but I've just realised that you are actually of the Left and a wind-up merchant. I'm being serious. An upper class accent goes a long way when dealing with foreigners. In America for example they love it and i'm sure David Cameron will be popular.
badgerx16 Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 You do realize we are now ruled by people straight from the playing fields of Eton! Quite literally. Both Cameron and Clegg went to Eton and both were members of the Bullingdon Club at Oxford! The ruling class has returned! As Mr Pratchett put it; "Honest men start bowing and bobbing just because someone's grandad was a bigger murdering bastard than theirs was." Remember, every penny they have salted away was extracted at the expense of the blood & sweat of the workers. As for the 'ruling class', something like 85% of the country is owned by direct descendants of the Norman invaders - bloody incomers
badgerx16 Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I'm asking why it's an issue. Not surprising some jealous/ignorant types want to bleat on about it. Quite frankly, if you don't think the best governors come from amongst the best educated then you are barking mad IMO. I would recommend this - - as a starting point. A bit idealistic, I admit, but should hopefully point you in roughly the right direction. I fully support the message conveyed in the title :finga:
badgerx16 Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 An upper class accent goes a long way when dealing with foreigners. . Yep, "Imshi, imshi" - "Punkah wallah, where's my trunk ?" - "Bl00dy fuzzies, get off my land"
LGTL Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I'm asking why it's an issue. Not surprising some jealous/ignorant types want to bleat on about it. Quite frankly, if you don't think the best governors come from amongst the best educated then you are barking mad IMO. I would recommend this - - as a starting point. A bit idealistic, I admit, but should hopefully point you in roughly the right direction. I'm not arguing that point, but if you think it means they will do anything more than look after their own, then you are the barking mad one.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I'm asking why it's an issue. Not surprising some jealous/ignorant types want to bleat on about it. Quite frankly, if you don't think the best governors come from amongst the best educated then you are barking mad IMO. I would recommend this - - as a starting point. A bit idealistic, I admit, but should hopefully point you in roughly the right direction. but he's an old Greek and we all know the mess they're in!
benjii Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 but he's an old Greek and we all know the mess they're in! If he had been a Tory you'd probably blame him for it!
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I'm being serious. An upper class accent goes a long way when dealing with foreigners. In America for example they love it and i'm sure David Cameron will be popular. And that's important? Says more about America really.
benjii Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I'm not arguing that point, but if you think it means they will do anything more than look after their own, then you are the barking mad one. Well, the proof will be in Nanny's sponge pudding.
badgerx16 Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 And that's important? Says more about America really. The most class riven country in the western world.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 If he had been a Tory you'd probably blame him for it! He was a mathematician so I doubt he would stand a chance in the Tory government
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 And that's important? Says more about America really. Not just America. I'm close friends with the daughter of Viscount D'Lisle (he was governor of Australia) and I can assure you that a posh accent does get things done and puts you at an immediate advantage in a given situation. It's wrong, but it's a fact. It's the same in the armed forces.
buctootim Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Not just America. I'm close friends with the daughter of Viscount D'Lisle (he was governor of Australia) and I can assure you that a posh accent does get things done and puts you at an immediate advantage in a given situation. It's wrong, but it's a fact. It's the same in the armed forces. Sounding educated / intelligent and sounding posh arent the same thing at all. Being a thick sounding poshy wont get you anywhere at all.
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Sounding educated / intelligent and sounding posh arent the same thing at all. Being a thick sounding poshy wont get you anywhere at all. True, but having an upper class accent and being smart put's you at the optimum advantage. This is where Dave Cameron is.
badgerx16 Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 True, but having an upper class accent and being smart put's you at the optimum advantage. I suppose there are always the crawlers willing to kiss any @rse for crumbs from the rich man's table.
solentstars Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 The most class riven country in the western world. you can see it on here with their sad winner takes all mentality
saint_stevo Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 David Cameron = the Rupert Lowe of politics. Cant believe that idiot is running the country. Any word on a new job for George Osbourne?
Wes Tender Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I voted Green and Labour. HTH Of course you did. But do try and keep your opinions on forums like this and in the pub rather than in the classroom, please.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 David Cameron = the Rupert Lowe of politics. Cant believe that idiot is running the country. Any word on a new job for George Osbourne? No new job - he'll be Chancellor (gawd 'elp us). If David Cameron = Rupert Lowe of politics, then Georgie boy will be the Peter Storrie of politics. Allegedly.
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