TopGun Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Nick Robinson reckons: 1. Clegg as Deputy PM 2. Clarke as Chancellor (can't believe that! If true a huge coup for the LDs), Cable as deputy chancellor. 3. Osborne demoted to Business Secretary
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Nick Robinson reckons: 1. Clegg as Deputy PM 2. Clarke as Chancellor (can't believe that! If true a huge coup for the LDs), Cable as deputy chancellor. 3. Osborne demoted to Business Secretary Tea Boy would be more appropriate IMO
Johnny Bognor Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Nick Robinson reckons: 2. Clarke as Chancellor (can't believe that! If true a huge coup for the LDs), Cable as deputy chancellor. Would be happy for that. I never understood why the tories didn't ditch Osborne a long time before the election. Clarke (the most successful chancellor in decades) supported by Cable (one of the most respected politicians from a financial/economic perspective). You would have to say that this is the dream team in terms of dealing with the worst financial crisis since WW2. As for a coup for the Lib Dems, there are many tory voters that would see this as a coup for the tories (Osborne is, was and will be a ****).
fish fingers Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Tea Boy would be more appropriate IMO he really is a disgusting human, waste of oxygen.
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Nick Robinson reckons: 1. Clegg as Deputy PM 2. Clarke as Chancellor (can't believe that! If true a huge coup for the LDs), Cable as deputy chancellor. 3. Osborne demoted to Business Secretary Sounds good. I've never hid my dislike for George Osbourne. I reckon KC and VC would make a good team.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Boo. Osbourne will be chancellor. And so it begins
hypochondriac Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 And so it begins What a sad person you are. I support no party but I hope the Tories do really well. Pi*ses me off when people go mental before they have even done anything. Give them a chance FFS.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 What a sad person you are. I support no party but I hope the Tories do really well. Pi*ses me off when people go mental before they have even done anything. Give them a chance FFS. Have a day off, I bet NONE of the Tory boys on here gave Blair a chance when he took over Cameron and Clegg couldn't be more in bed with each other if they had their ****s up each others arses. Scum, both of them!
Thedelldays Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Have a day off, I bet NONE of the Tory boys on here gave Blair a chance when he took over. I certainly did..he was actually a very VERY good leader and did some good things in his earlier years...
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 What a sad person you are. I support no party but I hope the Tories do really well. Pi*ses me off when people go mental before they have even done anything. Give them a chance FFS. Um you were the one who said 'Boo Osborne', not me. I'm not sad - I'm laughing.
CB Saint Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I can see Ken Clarke as chancellor - Need a heavyweight to offset Cable.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I can see Ken Clarke as chancellor - Need a heavyweight to offset Cable. BBCs Nick Robinson says Osborne will be Chancellor. Who are we to gainsay this?
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I really really really don't see what the 'Liberal' Democrats have to gain from this?! In future elections the opposition parties can simply say "A vote for the Lib Dems is a vote for the Tories" and BOOM, bang goes their core vote. I bet there are Lib Dem members who are even more furious than I am tonight. Clegg is living in a dream world if he thinks he will have any influence over the 'I'm alright Jacks'. Cheers Clegg! At least we can now blame EVERYTHING for the next 4 years on the Tories - If we lose on penalties in the World Cup, I will be blaming Cameron!
SuperMikey Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Must say, i'm not a Tory fan, but I do have a lot of time for Ken Clarke. Would much prefer him to George 'rabbit-in-the-headlights' Osbourne, and with Cable thrown into the bargain as deputy chancellor, I can't see much going wrong there.
hypochondriac Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Have a day off, I bet NONE of the Tory boys on here gave Blair a chance when he took over Cameron and Clegg couldn't be more in bed with each other if they had their ****s up each others arses. Scum, both of them! I am NOT a Tory boy! I LIKED Tony Blair! It's not an excuse to say "well the other sides are c*nts so we are going to be c*nts as well." Rise above it FFS.
Thedelldays Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I really really really don't see what the 'Liberal' Democrats have to gain from this?! In future elections the opposition parties can simply say "A vote for the Lib Dems is a vote for the Tories" and BOOM, bang goes their core vote. I bet there are Lib Dem members who are even more furious than I am tonight. Clegg is living in a dream world if he thinks he will have any influence over the 'I'm alright Jacks'. Cheers Clegg! At least we can now blame EVERYTHING for the next 4 years on the Tories - If we lose on penalties in the World Cup, I will be blaming Cameron! they gain from this by getting some of their policies actually into practice....when was the last time they had this chance..? stop living in the past
hypochondriac Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Um you were the one who said 'Boo Osborne', not me. I'm not sad - I'm laughing. I didn't want Osbourne as chancellor but I'm not going to write him off before anything happens. I'm willing to give the Tories a chance. Will you applaud them if they do well on the whole? Or focus on every tiny thing they do wrong (as they inevitably will do)? I suspect the latter.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I didn't want Osbourne as chancellor but I'm not going to write him off before anything happens. I'm willing to give the Tories a chance. Will you applaud them if they do well on the whole? Or focus on every tiny thing they do wrong (as they inevitably will do)? I suspect the latter. I can't applaud them if they do well, or focus on every wrongdoing as they will have done it in cahoots with the Liberals, won't they. I (seriously) wonder what will happen if some of the Liberals who can vote on this decide to vote against it? I also wonder if the marriage might end in divorce before the end of this (to be fixed term) parliament. Oh and I wonder how many LibDems will cross the floor of the House?
SO16_Saint Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 So we're pretty much writing this off already then? It wouldn't be TSW any other way!!
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 So we're pretty much writing this off already then? I do think the fixed term parliament will mean that, instead of vote-grabbing budgets just before the PM plans to hold an election, we'll get a vote-grabbing budget just before the end of the fixed term.
Thedelldays Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I do think the fixed term parliament will mean that, instead of vote-grabbing budgets just before the PM plans to hold an election, we'll get a vote-grabbing budget just before the end of the fixed term. would you have been this cynical had the LibDems won with a majority.?
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 would you have been this cynical had the LibDems won with a majority.? No I'm not being cynical at all. What I think would apply to all parties and, indeed, has done so since time immemorial.
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 BBCs Nick Robinson says Osborne will be Chancellor. Who are we to gainsay this? Well with the sound guidance of Kenneth Clarke and with the Conservative ideologies to guide him I expect George Osborne will do a fantastic job.
View From The Top Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Well with the sound guidance of Kenneth Clarke and with the Conservative ideologies to guide him I expect George Osborne will do a fantastic job. Pity the markets don't rate him.
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Pity the markets don't rate him. As far as i'm aware the markets wanted a conservative government that will tackle the deficit straight away.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Well with the sound guidance of Kenneth Clarke and with the Conservative ideologies to guide him I expect George Osborne will do a fantastic job. You'll be disappointed then. Do you honestly think the Libs will let Conservative ideolgy dictate economic policy?
View From The Top Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 As far as i'm aware the markets wanted a conservative government that will tackle the deficit straight away. I'm assuming that you don't listen to Moneybox or R4? Surveys in the City and by the CBI had Osbourne rated lower than both Darling and Cable. The same surveys had Clarke as the choice for a tory chancellor.
View From The Top Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 You'll be disappointed then. Do you honestly think the Libs will let Conservative ideolgy dictate economic policy? It will certainly stop them moving to the right and maybe signal with re-birth of One Nation Conservatism.
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 I'm assuming that you don't listen to Moneybox or R4? Surveys in the City and by the CBI had Osbourne rated lower than both Darling and Cable. The same surveys had Clarke as the choice for a tory chancellor. Fair enough and as it goes I think Clarke would make a better chancellor.
TopGun Posted 11 May, 2010 Author Posted 11 May, 2010 Well, Osborne it is seemingly. It will be a centre of huge contention as Osborne wants to slash and burn with spending to reduce deficit and Cable wants to continue spending to help support the economy and then cut later. Complete opposites!
dune Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Well, Osborne it is seemingly. It will be a centre of huge contention as Osborne wants to slash and burn with spending to reduce deficit and Cable wants to continue spending to help support the economy and then cut later. Complete opposites! The Liberals have got their referendum on AV so I suspect they'll just be grateful for that and allow the Conservatives to do what they do best and manage the economy.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 The Liberals have got their referendum on AV so I suspect they'll just be grateful for that and allow the Conservatives to do what they do best and manage the economy. I beg to differ. One of the main planks of coalition was to be agreement on economic policies. IIRC Osborne's policies were ridiculed by the (non-political) experts.
Wilko Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Um you were the one who said 'Boo Osborne', not me. No, he was saying Boo-urns. I hope Cameron follows through his pledge to make the country fairer.
Johnny Bognor Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 At least we can now blame EVERYTHING for the next 4 years on the Tories - If we lose on penalties in the World Cup, I will be blaming Cameron! At least we have a PM that will support us in the World Cup, unlike Brown who would at the very least hope we lose. He's a jock and it is in his DNA.
bridge too far Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 At least we have a PM that will support us in the World Cup, unlike Brown who would at the very least hope we lose. He's a jock and it is in his DNA. Do you think he knows what football is? I rather imagine he's a Fives man.
benjii Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 Do you think he knows what football is? I rather imagine he's a Fives man. There it is again.
Johnny Bognor Posted 11 May, 2010 Posted 11 May, 2010 (edited) Do you think he knows what football is? I rather imagine he's a Fives man. As it happens, he's a Villa fan......(Read the last entry) http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/FamousFans/0,,10265,00.html He is the nephew of a former Villa chairman, so to be fair, he probably does know what football is, but don't let your class prejudice cloud your normally "balanced" (ahem) judgement Edited 11 May, 2010 by Johnny Bognor
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