Um Bongo Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Goalkeepers Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green Defenders Leighton Baines, Jamie Carragher, Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock Midfielders Gareth Barry, Michael Carrick, Joe Cole, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Adam Johnson, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Scott Parker, Theo Walcott, Shaun Wright-Phillips Forwards Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Good luck Capello for leaving 7 out from that. Carragher in there is a joke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 How is SWP there yet Ashley Young isnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 No Rickie Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 I'd leave out Carragher, Upson, A Johnson, Lennon, Parker, Barry and Heskey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 How is SWP there yet Ashley Young isnt? First thing I thought as well. I'd leave out. Carragher Warnock Carrick Cole Parker SWP Heskey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 I'd leave out: Warnock, Carragher, Heskey, Huddlestone, Carrick, Wright-Phillips, Upson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 I'd leave out Carragher, Upson, A Johnson, Lennon, Parker, Barry and Heskey You'd go to the World Cup with three left backs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H. Cope Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 How the f*ck does Heskey still warrant a place? The mind boggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Right back really is a problem if Johnson gets injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 I'd still take Carragher, he can fit in nicely anywhere in that back four, which will allow either an extra midfielder or an extra striker/winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 I'd leave out Carragher, Upson, A Johnson, Lennon, Parker, Barry and Heskey Carragher will definitely go, so will Barry if he's fit. We'll take one of Warnock and Baines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Hart - Good choice, would be my No.1 for this tournament James - Getting on, but still a good keeper and lots of experience Green - Good understudy for Hart, still not 100% convinced he's international standard though Baines - Too lightweight for left back, Joe Cole should have the LM spot nailed down. Carragher - Past his best, not international quality anymore A. Cole - Questions about his fitness but best LB England have Dawson - Decent enough, can't see him starting though Ferdinand - Again, fitness in question, but best CB in the England pool Johnson - Should definitely start RB, although if he gets injured England are screwed with no decent backup King - If he's fit, could be good. If he's not, he'll be a liability Terry - Will he be the same after the cheating scandal? Upson - Dodgy season, dodgy player. Should've named Jagielka. Warnock - 3 left backs in the squad, expect him to be turfed out for the 23 Barry - Don't think he'll be fit, but if he is then he should definitely go Carrick - Better than Barry imo, very underrated. I'd start him. J. Cole - Pleased he's got his space, very versatile and skilful. English Ronaldinho. Gerrard - Obviously a shoe-in, has yet to impress me in tournament finals though. Huddlestone - Has had a good season, but no pace and Carrick is a better holding midfielder Johnson - Odd choice, one for the future perhaps but Downing would've been a better choice. Lampard - Could be a key player for England if he's on form, he's a match winner on his day Lennon - Not 100% fit but if he is then would be very useful to have in the 23 Milner - Vastly improved this season, very versatile and will be interesting to see how he copes at a major tournament finals Parker - Decent player in a poor West Ham team, but not international standard anymore Walcott - Not produced anything like his form against Croatia at international or club standard recently, but useful to have Wright-Phillips - Will have a lot of competition for the RM slot, so needs to prove he's good enough Bent - Been on fire in the Prem, whether he can replicate that at international level is another question, but he has the talent Crouch - Should start up front with Rooney, needs to prove himself at a tournament finals though Defoe - Good poacher, should leave the penalty taking to Lampard though Heskey - Hmm. Interesting choice, good team player, but doesn't score goals. He'll definitely go to SA though. Rooney - If he's on form at the finals, England will at least make semi's. From that i'd leave out: Carragher, Upson, Warnock, Parker, Huddlestone, Johnson, Wright-Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 I can see the reasoning behind SWP, he's much more direct than Young is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilza Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Carrick is poor, leave him out along with Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock, Scott Parker, Adam Johnson, SWP, Heskey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Of those 30, my 23 would be- Goalkeepers: Joe Hart, David James, Robert Green. Defenders: Ashley Cole, Michael Dawson, Rio Ferdinand, Glen Johnson, Ledley King, John Terry, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock. Midfielders: Gareth Barry, Steven Gerrard, Tom Huddlestone, Frank Lampard, Aaron Lennon, James Milner, Theo Walcott, Forwards: Darren Bent, Peter Crouch, Jermain Defoe, Emile Heskey, Wayne Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 For defence I'd drop Warnock, Dawson and either King or Ferdinand as you can't take two injury liabilities. For midfield I'd drop Huddlestone (Carrick can do his job), Parker, Wright-Phillips (if Lennon is fit) and Johnson (would like to take him but Milner and Cole are better options on the left) For attack I'd drop Bent (not convinced he can do it at international standard) Surprised Zamora didn't make the final 30 after his Europa Cup season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Without Rooney our strikeforce is really not up to much! Will wait and see what team he puts out in the friendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Dawson has to go, He has had the best season out of all of our Defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Starting 11 James Warnock Dawson Upson Carragher Johnson Huddlestone Parker Cole Bent Heskey What a crock of ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Surprised people don't rate Carrick, he's the glue in the Man Utd midfield. Really combatative, ball-winning midfielder, and he can pick out a pin-point pass anytime over the 90 minutes. You don't just command a £18m transfer fee if you're not something special. If I was Capello i'd set out something like this against the smaller nations (ie group stages): -------------------HART------------------- JOHNSON----TERRY----FERDINAND---A.COLE MILNER----GERRARD----LAMPARD-----J.COLE -----------CROUCH----ROONEY------------- And then something like this when England come up against the bigger teams (Brazil, Italy, France etc): -------------------HART------------------- JOHNSON----TERRY----FERDINAND---A.COLE -----------------CARRICK------------------ -------GERRARD------------MILNER--------- -----------------LAMPARD------------------ -----------CROUCH----ROONEY------------- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Starting 11 James Warnock Dawson Upson Carragher Johnson Huddlestone Parker Cole Bent Heskey What a crock of ****. You reckon that will really be the starting 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Carragher will be on the plane, no way Capello would have had the come back discussion. Makes useful cover across the back four. Barry will always start in midfield ahead of Joe Cole if fit. Bent will get left behind Johnson will go as will one of Lennon or Walcott then it becomes another Pace man (SWP) or the more all round creativity of Joe Cole. Imagine Crouchy getting on the end of Jonson's crosses, has to be an option off the bench as would the direct pace of Walcott who probably shades ahead of Lennon Milner would be a good cover for Cashley in an emergency so at least one of Warnock & Baines won't go One of Huddlestone or Parker will go depending on Barry's fitness Gonna fill a lot of newspaper back pages for the next few weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 I'd leave out: Warnock, Carragher, Heskey, Huddlestone, Carrick, Wright-Phillips, Upson. I'd certainly leave out Huddlestone, from the little I've seen of Spurs last few matches I'd say he's the weak link in their side let alone England's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Carrick - Better than Barry imo, very underrated. I'd start him. J. Cole - Pleased he's got his space, very versatile and skilful. English Ronaldinho. X 10000000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Surprised people don't rate Carrick, he's the glue in the Man Utd midfield. Really combatative, ball-winning midfielder, and he can pick out a pin-point pass anytime over the 90 minutes. You don't just command a £18m transfer fee if you're not something special. He's lightweight toss. And Alex Ferguson will tell you exactly what he thinks about the "glue" holding his midfield together by selling him this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 I'd get rid of: Green Upson Dawson Warnock SWP Carrick if Barry is fit, otherwise dump Barry. Defoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Right back really is a problem if Johnson gets injured... Milner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 X 10000000 Aside from Rooney, Joe Cole is the most technically gifted footballer in that squad. Some of the stuff he pulls off is magical. He's definitely not as good as Ronaldinho, but it's a shame that he doesn't have a regular place in the England team yet. And as for Carrick, Man Utd will be a poor side without him. Ronaldo, Carrick and Rooney were the 3 reasons that Man Utd did so well last season, and now Ronaldo's gone, Carrick is leaving and Rooney is rumoured away, Man Utd will be seriously depleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Joe Cole has been helmet this season, as has Carrick who was being overlooked for old man Scholes. Both gotta be left at the airport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Alert Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Happy enough with that squad for now. Surprised not to see Gary Nevile who I think could do a job as 2nd choice RB, but also a wise old head in the training ground. Joe Cole has to go, class player and easily should start on the left for me. Everything else much of a muchness really, drop Carragher - Dawson has been better all season long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Leave out: Defenders Jamie Carragher, Matthew Upson, Stephen Warnock Midfielders Michael Carrick, Scott Parker, Shaun Wright-Phillips Forwards Darren Bent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 How is SWP there yet Ashley Young isnt? Well Ashley Young has been **** for England and his club side, SWP has at least shown a little bit of form for England. Can't see SWP going either way, will probably be Walcott, Lennon, Milner and maybe Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 How the f*ck does Heskey still warrant a place? The mind boggles. Probably something to do with how many goals we scored in qualifying with him in the side, we scored the most goals in Europe... There's no point fixing something that isn't broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 I'd still take Carragher, he can fit in nicely anywhere in that back four, which will allow either an extra midfielder or an extra striker/winger He can fit in nicely sure, just a shame he's been terrible all season, I honestly can't remember a single decent performance from him. Their Greek centre back has been a lot better which says a lot. Right back really is a problem if Johnson gets injured... Milner? Shocked Jagielka didn't get a call up, he could do a decent job there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 You'd go to the World Cup with three left backs? Yep. I'd even push Cole into left midfield if necessary. Which of the players I'd drop are good enough for England then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted 11 May, 2010 Share Posted 11 May, 2010 Yep. I'd even push Cole into left midfield if necessary. Which of the players I'd drop are good enough for England then? Heskey, Barry and Lennon (If they're all fit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 12 May, 2010 Share Posted 12 May, 2010 Terry's broken his metatarsal according to SSN!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Alert Posted 12 May, 2010 Share Posted 12 May, 2010 Which gets me to asking, would Bridge have even got in the squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 12 May, 2010 Share Posted 12 May, 2010 Breaking news: Nelson Mandela Apartheid Commemorative Game ENGLAND BLACKS Manager: John Barnes Sponsor: KFC [center]James Johnson – Ferdinand – King – A.Cole Walcott – Huddlestone – Wright-Phillips – Lennon Defoe - Heskey[/center] [i]Subs: Bent[/i] vs. ENGLAND WHITES Manager: Ron Atkinson Sponsor: BNP [center]Green Carragher – Upson – Terry – Baines J.Cole – Gerrard - Lampard – Johnson Rooney - Crouch[/center] [i]Subs: Hart, Warnock, Dawson, Carrick, Barry, Milner, Parker[/i] Who do you think will win? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 May, 2010 Share Posted 12 May, 2010 Terry's broken his metatarsal according to SSN!! So if he's out does than mean that Bridger can get a call up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 12 May, 2010 Share Posted 12 May, 2010 I can see the reasoning behind SWP, he's much more direct than Young is. His goals record for England is good as well I would rather take him than Lennon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 14 May, 2010 Share Posted 14 May, 2010 (edited) Three at the back for the World cup? http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/05/14/england-world-cup-fabio-capello-three-man-defence-3-5-2/ Nice article about the pros and cons, personally I can't see it but I wouldn't be too suprised if we go with three at the back at some point. Edit - BBC article - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8681745.stm Edited 14 May, 2010 by Andy_Porter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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