saintkiptanui Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 If NC axes AP then I expect the reasons,as I think you stated on an earlier post,may well not solely be due to results and progress but a conflict along the way.Shame if it happens and I hope it does not. I will however await NC's 'Plan B' though before going off on one. Lets remember above all else the debt of gratitude we owe NC and ML from 12months ago.Exactly, as fans we'd look like right pillocks if we start moaning about chairman and owner.
Thedelldays Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Exactly, as fans we'd look like right pillocks if we start moaning about chairman and owner. I agree with the kipster...if they up'd sticks now, we would be screwed and left in the wilderness, with the champ being a dream at least wait till we get in the prem before turning on the owners ffs...seems to be the rage up there
Tokyo-Saint Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 This is a key moment in our history. If we sack Pardew now we will become a rich club with a soap opera existence ala Newcastle. If we stick with him we retain stability, respect in the league and a good chance to push on. I hope NC releases a statement on Wednesday saying that Pardew has their full backing and a decent budget to build in the summer.
benjii Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 This is a key moment in our history. If we sack Pardew now we will become a rich club with a soap opera existence ala Newcastle. If we stick with him we retain stability, respect in the league and a good chance to push on. I hope NC releases a statement on Wednesday saying that Pardew has their full backing and a decent budget to build in the summer. Bit melodramatic. Just a bit.
lethallee Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 The amount of rubbish on this forum is unbelivable. There are no genuine ITK people in regards to AP's position at club. Everything is pure and utter rumour based on very little facts. Personally I'd like see AP stay and think that he will. Really can't see Hughes dropping down to L1 management. He far more likely end up at Villa or West Ham.
lordswoodsaints Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Pards gone!! Somethings definately going on mate.....just heard pardew has been sacked from 2 different people.
sadoldgit Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Agreed. Southampton FC is now in a great position because of Cortese and Liebherr, not because of Pardew. Ah I see, so they pick the players, take training, sort out the tactics? So it is them that Alps should have ben slagging off all this time and not Pardew then? Mr Liebherr has kindly stumped up some cash but is Pardew and his management team that are doing the business on the ground.
aintforever Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 There's no dressing this up, sacking Pardew would be the act of a lunatic.
Chin Strain Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Mr Liebherr has kindly stumped up some cash but is Pardew and his management team that are doing the business on the ground. I agree....but if one were to leave, who would you rather? If I'm honest I think he's gone. If he's not going, then NC should have come out and publicly backed him. IMO his silence tells you all you need to know.
sadoldgit Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 I agree....but if one were to leave, who would you rather? If I'm honest I think he's gone. If he's not going, then NC should have come out and publicly backed him. IMO his silence tells you all you need to know. I don't think it is an issue of ML or AP, I think it is AP or NC. Given a choice of the two right now I would go for AP. Still, if NC gets rid of him and delivers Prem football in 4 seasons time he can say he was right. I personally think Pardew has done more than enough this year to show he is the man for the job next season and that NC should come out and back him.
sadoldgit Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Exactly, as fans we'd look like right pillocks if we start moaning about chairman and owner. I don't think it is the owner we need to worry about....and we have had lots of practice slagging off Chairmen!
Suhari Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Somethings definately going on mate.....just heard pardew has been sacked from 2 different people. C'mon. More detail. Sitting here watching Se7en. I think the eighth deadly sin is posting rumours on internet boards! Tell us more good man!
NickG Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 why hasn't all these people talking about it mentioned it to Pardew?
S-Clarke Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 why hasn't all these people talking about it mentioned it to Pardew? there's something going on nick, however you dress it up - this isn't just mindless rumours anymore. we'll have a new manager by next week IMO.
St Lightjaw Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 we'll have a new manager by next week IMO. A Steve Wigley / Dave Merrington dream ticket combo perhaps? :cool:
lordswoodsaints Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 C'mon. More detail. Sitting here watching Se7en. I think the eighth deadly sin is posting rumours on internet boards! Tell us more good man! Not a lot to tell really,I've had 2 texts saying he has been sacked one from a mate who is mates with an employee of SFC and the other off of a mate who works at the echo. I don't know how true it is but I think we all know (rightly or wrongly) he is probably going.
Matthew Le God Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 just heard pardew has been sacked from 2 different people. Who were these people? Sometimes rumours are self fueling and start to snowball even if they are completely untrue. One person reads a rumour one one site, posts it on another site. Then the first site sees the second site and uses it to justify the original.
SuperSAINT Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 what on earth is NC playing at. nut job. You don't think he hears the fans chant Pards' name and quietly hates him for it do you?!
S-Clarke Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Who were these people? Sometimes rumours are self fueling and start to snowball even if they are completely untrue. One person reads a rumour one one site, posts it on another site. Then the first site sees the second site and uses it to justify the original. this has really all been started by NC though, and his comments about us not doing well enough in the league, and the pretty clear message that it's play-offs or bust.
rocknrollman no2 Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 I thought we were mad to get rid of Pearson when we did,but if Pardew is forced to go,then theres no hope.
Suhari Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Not a lot to tell really,I've had 2 texts saying he has been sacked one from a mate who is mates with an employee of SFC and the other off of a mate who works at the echo. I don't know how true it is but I think we all know (rightly or wrongly) he is probably going. Soap opera Saints again, eh? Oh for some stability. Hope you are wrong but I have a feeling......... So: better for him to go now or in December next season?
hypochondriac Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 there's something going on nick, however you dress it up - this isn't just mindless rumours anymore. we'll have a new manager by next week IMO. Erm... Yeah it is!
buctootim Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Pards gone!! Somethings definately going on mate.....just heard pardew has been sacked from 2 different people. Ive heard it from three people on this forum.
hypochondriac Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 what on earth is NC playing at. nut job. Seriously mate f*ck off with comments like that until we actually know something.
Badger Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Soap opera Saints again, eh? Oh for some stability. Hope you are wrong but I have a feeling......... So: better for him to go now or in December next season? Depends where we think we might be in December.From the results this season and the way AP seemed to be shaping things I would be reasonably confident in leaving AP in situ.
hypochondriac Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Mass hysteria you sound like a bunch of women. Idiots the lot of you even if the rumours are true.
thorpie the sinner Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 ah, but thats what makes this site great!!!
Amesbury Saint Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Another manager goes before end of contract, just think of the money wasted in a settlement.
hypochondriac Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 ah, but thats what makes this site great!!! Not calling Cortese a nut job when nothing has been prooved. FFS get a grip.
Fowllyd Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 ah, but thats what makes this site grate!!! Subtle difference, but I think it reads better this way.
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 He might have lost more games than we would have liked, but without the -10 we would still have made the play offs. ... and a full pre season, and a full competitive squadfrom the off. Getting rid of AP would be the most monumental **** up of all to date that this club has made - A five year plan to get tot he premier should surely of been something like year 1 - consolodation/improvement in League 1 year 2 - promotion from league 1 year3- consolodation/improvement in CCC Year 4 - Promotion push to Premier Year 5 - Consolodation in Premier/Promotion from Championship lets just give it to Xmas and see how we are going,keeping the squad together. Can't believe this is even a discussion point
Badger Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 If AP is shown the door,then unless there are reasons of gross misconduct which we currently know nothing about,we don't deserve to progress.
Suhari Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 ... and a full pre season, and a full competitive squadfrom the off. Getting rid of AP would be the most monumental **** up of all to date that this club has made - A five year plan to get tot he premier should surely of been something like year 1 - consolodation/improvement in League 1 year 2 - promotion from league 1 year3- consolodation/improvement in CCC Year 4 - Promotion push to Premier Year 5 - Consolodation in Premier/Promotion from Championship lets just give it to Xmas and see how we are going,keeping the squad together. Can't believe this is even a discussion point Can't disagree with that. I hope to hell he is staying; he may not be the best manager in the world, but he is pretty good: certainly capable of getting us out of L1, and we could do with keeping things on an even keel for a while. Rarely smoke without fire though.
Mr Saints Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 I will forever be grateful to Cortese for playing a huge part in saving my club. However, if he gets rid of Pards this summer he is deluded.
stmusicdude Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 (edited) Not a lot to tell really,I've had 2 texts saying he has been sacked one from a mate who is mates with an employee of SFC and the other off of a mate who works at the echo. I don't know how true it is but I think we all know (rightly or wrongly) he is probably going. See this is where my opinion is vastly different to many I think. If he had already "gone" in that he knows he's gone I think it would be in the public domain. If it's he's gone in a decison has been made but No one ( AP included) wasn't told yet, then I will give NC more credit & think only his closest advisors would know. the LAST people i would expect to KNOW before it was official would be any one at the echo to be honest. There must be a gulf of difference between it being accepted around the club that NC isn't happy to the fact that a decision has now been made & the party ( in this case AP) not being informed. I also no longer think IF he's is going that NC has lined up Mark Hughes. I think that if NC & AP have a fragile relasionship it goes way beyond the fact we missed the "playoffs" Come on we have ALL heard that interview a few months back where he implied playoffs was goal but that didnt mean we had to go up. As I said earlier too I can't see him thinking ok we missed promotion lets sack him, after all we still have to get out the league & we do have the momentum. We actually know nothing .. & can twist everything we hear to fit the gossip & rumour ML stayed at home .. no programme .. thats really ALL we have yet ML staying at home when there was a very clear risk getting back after game could be awkward makes sense really? so that leaves the programme & i think those that have seen it have said it's NOT due to comments made? is it possible the club can't comment because the ONLY person/s that know haven't informed those asked? so the people asked would rather decline to comment than look stupid later? Either way & i really don't want AP sacked I wish people would quit with the bashing of either ML or NC have more respect for what they have done for us ffs Edited 10 May, 2010 by stmusicdude
Badger Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Remember this comment from ML on his arrival: "I believe we have a superb opportunity to rebuild this great Club. Clearly, this will require resources, planning, hard work and patience. We will assemble a strong management team at every level of the Club. We will act rapidly, but also plan for the long term, because I am here for the long term. "I also look forward to the Club re-engaging with the fans and the local community. We cannot succeed with out their backing. "We should not expect instant success, but our fans, employees and other stakeholders can expect 100 per cent commitment from me and my team."
NickG Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Most football rumours in papers and radio turn out to be false. NC maybe planning to replace Pardew - but if he was when he has turned a team into just about the best team in the country on current form seems a very strange time. Mark Hughes - where the f has that come from?
St. Jason Posted 10 May, 2010 Author Posted 10 May, 2010 Murty -there is still speculation All 3 pundits saying "what's going on @ Southampton, surely Pardew's done a good job"
St. Jason Posted 10 May, 2010 Author Posted 10 May, 2010 We all know ML is a quiet man. Maybe ignoring the media is his way of dealing with things? Can you imagine if its announced tomorrow that AP has signed a new & extended contract for a very successful season. It will make a lot of people, mainly the media, look very very stupid Don't see why it'd make the media or fans look stupid? There is something going on behind the scenes, if it turns out to be a new contract then I'd be well happy, but the media would of been proved right for thinking something was up!!
sfc4prem Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 Don't see why it'd make the media or fans look stupid? There is something going on behind the scenes, if it turns out to be a new contract then I'd be well happy, but the media would of been proved right for thinking something was up!! Although the media were talking bout Pardew's job hanging by a thread?
sadoldgit Posted 10 May, 2010 Posted 10 May, 2010 We all know ML is a quiet man. Maybe ignoring the media is his way of dealing with things? Can you imagine if its announced tomorrow that AP has signed a new & extended contract for a very successful season. It will make a lot of people, mainly the media, look very very stupid I don't think this has much to do with ML. He sees happy to let Nicola get on with the running of the club. Depending on what happens on Wednesday that might not be such a good thing!
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