Ladbrokes suspend all bets

[doddisalegend]

if ALL the premier league jobs were avilable right now..who would get the most jobs..pardew or hughes..

 

hughes will win..quite easily

 

So you say based on what though? Several EPL jobs have come up since Hughes got the elbow from man city yet he hasn't got any of them. Mark Hughes has done nothing as a manager, Pardew has done more.

[St. Jason]

I like Alan, I think we should keep him but with the team we have pretty much any half decent manager would get us promoted. Kenny Jackett from Millwall if they don't go up, Cotterill from Notts county, Swindon bloke if thye don't go up.

 

None of whom have a record like Alan's!

[Thedelldays]

 

None of whom have a record like Alan's!

None of whom had 3 million quid and more to spend in just one season

[VectisSaint]

Really think that if Pardew gets the push it will be because we are bringing in someone with a bigger, better reputation. That might be Hughes, but personally I doubt it, I don't think he has that reputation with the Italians (and Swiss). Just hope its not SGE or Maclaren. Maybe it will be Martin Jol. Anyone who thinks we are ditching Pardew for Cotterill, Jackett, Wilson or Tisdale needs to keep up. All of them were good candidates when we were on a downward spiral, indeed I was very keen on getting Cotterill a year or two back and he has proved once again that he is a top class lower league manager. But we are looking bigger than that now. Not saying I want AP to go because I don't, but we may not be so ****ed off when someone else is brought in.

[St. Jason]

None of whom had 3 million quid and more to spend in just one season

 

The £3m doesn't come into play when your looking at his record when your looking at his other clubs, his record stands up pretty well against most, imho, better win ratio that Mark Hughes, Sam Alladyce and this years manager of the season Harry Redknapp!!!

Edited 9 May, 2010 by St. Jason

[Matthew Le God]

Really think that if Pardew gets the push it will be because we are bringing in someone with a bigger, better reputation. That might be Hughes, but personally I doubt it, I don't think he has that reputation with the Italians (and Swiss). Just hope its not SGE or Maclaren. Maybe it will be Martin Jol. Anyone who thinks we are ditching Pardew for Cotterill, Jackett, Wilson or Tisdale needs to keep up. All of them were good candidates when we were on a downward spiral, indeed I was very keen on getting Cotterill a year or two back and he has proved once again that he is a top class lower league manager. But we are looking bigger than that now. Not saying I want AP to go because I don't, but we may not be so ****ed off when someone else is brought in.

 

Some very odd logic in this post.

 

You dismiss Maclaren who has just won the Dutch League with a tiny club. Yet rule in the current Ajax manager.

[Freemantle Saint]

It wasnt hughes at st marys behind cortese it was nick holmes...FACT.

 

ml wasnt even there either.

 

Dont know if AP will be sacked but just commenting on the hughes at st marys thing

[Flyer]

no we wont...getting 4 or 5 managers in two seasons would be the new QPR

 

We had 5 managers this season alone. I dont think its the number of sackings but rather the stupidly premature ones. I think sacking Pardew would be just that.

[RonManager]

We had 5 managers this season alone. I dont think its the number of sackings but rather the stupidly premature ones. I think sacking Pardew would be just that.

 

While you're here, is it likely that you'll be signing Danns?

[SFC Forever]

Pardew has cost us some points. I myself have thought that but even now we can in no way prove that to make it a fact.

 

We are in a far better position now than when he arrived. Most of his signings have worked out for us. I actually believe he can get us to where we want to go at the moment and that is up a division. Even though I have been less than complimentary to him at times.

[St. Jason]

Pardew has cost us some points. I myself have thought that but even now we can in no way prove that to make it a fact.

 

We are in a far better position now than when he arrived. Most of his signings have worked out for us. I actually believe he can get us to where we want to go at the moment and that is up a division. Even though I have been less than complimentary to him at times.

 

I agree, Pardew is far from perfect, never understand why he continues to sub Barnard?? But he deserves at least another season here!!

[Red]

Don't agree with AP being sacked - he hasn't been outstanding (I know that won't be popular but it's my view), but has done enough to deserve a bit longer.

 

However, why on earth would you replace him with Hughes??? What has he really achived - even with buckets of dosh at MC??? Naw MH bit makes this sound like a non story!

[Block 5]

I'm backing AP.

And I'm backing MH.

Oh, and I'm backing NC.

Er, have I missed anyone?

[Flyer]

While you're here, is it likely that you'll be signing Danns?

 

Very likely along with Speroni and Hill is already signed.

[St. Jason]

why the hell do people compare win ratios between managers in different leagues?

 

it's pointless enough between different clubs given the different resources. fulham are below liverpool, benitez has a better win ratio this season, yet who has done the better job? hodgson by a million miles.

 

statistical comparisons are for fools.

 

How does one judge someone without comparing them? Surely you need to look at someone cv before hiring them?

[St. Jason]

I'm backing AP.

And I'm backing MH.

Oh, and I'm backing NC.

Er, have I missed anyone?

 

ML!!!!

[trousers]

2 words. Stuart baxter

 

He's finnished....

[Wiltshire Saint]

Really think that if Pardew gets the push it will be because we are bringing in someone with a bigger, better reputation. That might be Hughes, but personally I doubt it, I don't think he has that reputation with the Italians (and Swiss). Just hope its not SGE or Maclaren. Maybe it will be Martin Jol. Anyone who thinks we are ditching Pardew for Cotterill, Jackett, Wilson or Tisdale needs to keep up. All of them were good candidates when we were on a downward spiral, indeed I was very keen on getting Cotterill a year or two back and he has proved once again that he is a top class lower league manager. But we are looking bigger than that now. Not saying I want AP to go because I don't, but we may not be so ****ed off when someone else is brought in.

 

I must say that I agree whole heartedly with this. Mark Hughes is really not the sort of manager we want at saints. He hardly has a glittering track record. However, Steve Mclaren will do for me. He's just won a trophy with a small team, so he would probably get us promoted and retaining the JTP cup. I would also be happy with martin Jol, but would prefer Scholari (who is just at some sh*t club at the moment and with our money we could buy out his contract). I wouldn't mind a Sol Campbell/Sven Goran eriksson management team or maybe Dean windass. However, my number one choice will always be Tommy widdrington.

 

Wiltshire saint managerial choices:

Alan Pardew

Tommy widdrington

Martin Jol

scholari

Steve McLaren

Sol Campbell/Sven Goran eriksson

Dean windass

[oxfordshire_saint]

Someone needs to sit Cortese and Liebherr down and explain to them the events at QPR over the last couple of years, it took them that long to pick a decent manager and stick with them (watch now as Warnock gets the boot 3 games into next season!)

 

But then again, Markus stumped up the cash in a big way both to buy the club and buy players, I guess he can do whatever the fook he wants when all is said and done!

[cellone]

It might be Pardew's been offered another job and we're looking to replace him. Coventry?

[kpturner]

It might be Pardew's been offered another job and we're looking to replace him. Coventry?

 

Lmfao

[Colinjb]

It might be Pardew's been offered another job and we're looking to replace him. Coventry?

 

LMAO doesn't cover it.

[saint_stevo]

He's finnished....

 

Love your play on words......hope people understand it

 

Didn't mean he is in line for the job, just that i once went into Ladbrokes and was chatting to the bloke who works there and was told the book was closed on Saints manager and it was going to be Baxter.......

 

So bookies get a whiff of something and cover there anus. Hardly means its happening

[scotty]

Can't find anything that gives this thread any credibility

 

Try David Icke's website, I think theres something on there about it.

[cellone]

Probably find Pardew To Coventry on there. FACT

[chrisobee]

This is all so fantastic it beggars belief:

 

Firstly we would have to imagine Ladbrokes were ever taking bets on AP being sacked in the 1st place, highly improbable and I'm certainly not aware of there being any such market existing with Ladbrokes or any other bookmaker.

Secondly and assuming there was any market in the 1st place betting is then suspended, again nothing to substantiate that either as far as I'm aware.

Finally even if we allow ourselves to accept the above we're then supposed to believe Ladbrokes stated Hughes was the new manager. That really would be astonishing and is as likely as us winning every game for the next 4 years and at at the end of 2013/14 being crowned CL winners, PL winners for the 2nd time, FA Cup Winners and League Cup Winners for the 4th time in a row and throw in League 1 Champions and JPT winners 2010/2011, CCC wiinners 2011/12 and just for good measure a couple of UEFA Cup wins as well as we'd almost certainly qualify via the FA Cup.

Wow, what a great fantasy, I'm sure I'm sleep typing TBH !!

Oh and I nearly forgot that invariably if anyone starts a market on something like this it is Skybet and not Ladbrokes!

Edited 10 May, 2010 by chrisobee
Add piece about Skybet for good measure :)

[for_heaven's_Saint]

What's probably happened is someone has started the rumour Pardew is going, lots of people have heard the rumour, taken it as fact and gone and put money on it, Ladbrokes have had so much money put on it that they then believe there must be some truth in it and they therefore suspend all bets on it, so as not to lose money.

 

OR as stated above, it's just complete bullsh!t.

[Rut]

Ladbrokes have suspended all bets on Pardew being sacked and have told anyone wanting to place said bet they'd have to go to an independent agent. The said bookmaker also said Hughes was his replacement!

 

I don't know if this is a Ladbroke policy or just the Ladbroke in Woolston.

 

Hey Jason. Def not digging at you but saying

 

1/ 'Ladbrokes' have suspended and

2/ 'Ladbrokes in Woolston' have suspended are def 2 totally diff things.

 

1/ - A national bookie has said 'enough is enough'

2/ - Some mush/bird sat behind a counter in a local bookie really can't be arsed to make a phone call through to find out a price on some krankie bet so just fob the punter off.

 

It's a bit like in the old days going to HMV and asking the mush behind the counter when the new Suburban Filth EP was due in. 'It's in on Tuesday' he would say. That would be pretty impressive seeing as it wasn't even recorded yet!

 

As previous people have said I doubt very much if Labrokes have a book at all on 'will Pardew leave Saints' - let alone closed it.

 

If I was doing the book I may well go:

 

To manage Saints at the start of season 2010/2011

 

Any other 1/2

Pardew 6/4

 

I think he'll prob be gone but it has got f**** all to do with the non-existant current Ladbrokes book!!!

[Dark Munster]

I think 99% of the fanbase support Pardew and want him to stay, but it doesn't look like NC shares the same views.

 

Don't get me wrong - i'm pleased with what NC has done and how he's contributed in moving this club forward, but he is starting to bug me a little bit.

Without NC (and hence ML) Saints would certainly not have hired AP in the first place, and if by some miracle we were not in the Blue Square at this time, would very probably end this season relegated and heading into L2 next season. So whilst I think sacking AP would be a bad move, at the end of the day NC has every right to make that decision, even if it turns out to be a big mistake.

[BristolSaint]

He might have lost more games than we would have liked, but without the -10 we would still have made the play offs.

 

we would have been promoted automatically on Saturday with a victory against Gillingham (by fielding a full strength team) and without the -10.

[SaintRobbie]

Ladbrokes have suspended all bets on Pardew being sacked and have told anyone wanting to place said bet they'd have to go to an independent agent. The said bookmaker also said Hughes was his replacement!

 

I realise this has been touched on in other threads but this rumour is gaining massive speed and with the bookies suspending bets it looks imminent!

 

For me this is worrying, Mr Liehberr and Cortesse said this was a 5 year plan, after year 1 I feel we've made massive progress, I feel Alan has formed the basis of a great team capable of winning the league 1 title next year and would be gutted if he was sacked, both for me and more importantly him! I feel he has earned the right to have a full pre-season and a shot at the title next year. I also wonder what sort of message it sends out to the rest of football if we were to sack him, what would be the clubs stance if Hughes fails to get us promoted next year?

 

Lowe made a huge error in sacking Pearson, do we really want to go down the same route again?

 

Your thoughts please, would you be p1ssed if we sacked him, would Hughes replacing him soften that, is success at all costs the way we want our club run???

 

Can you put a bet on him staying?

[St. Jason]

What's probably happened is someone has started the rumour Pardew is going, lots of people have heard the rumour, taken it as fact and gone and put money on it, Ladbrokes have had so much money put on it that they then believe there must be some truth in it and they therefore suspend all bets on it, so as not to lose money.

 

OR as stated above, it's just complete bullsh!t.

 

Finally, someone who see's it for what it hopefully is! I've never said I believe this means the end of Pardew just reporting that Ladbrokes in Woolston would not take a bet, that's all, also there is no poster saying "Hughes in" just an employee saying "that's what's he's heard". Fan after fan came in the Alfred after the game saying the exact same thing!

[Window Cleaner]

Finally, someone who see's it for what it hopefully is! I've never said I believe this means the end of Pardew just reporting that Ladbrokes in Woolston would not take a bet, that's all, also there is no poster saying "Hughes in" just an employee saying "that's what's he's heard". Fan after fan came in the Alfred after the game saying the exact same thing!

 

 

Maybe Ladbrokes in Woolston are just doing the decent thing by protecting idiots from themselves.

[St. Jason]

Maybe Ladbrokes in Woolston are just doing the decent thing by protecting idiots from themselves.

 

A bookie with morals, whatever next :-)

[brmbrm]

No linky i'm afraid, daughters boyfriend went to place the bet earlier today!

 

 

I've found out how this went.

 

7:50. Jason's daughter's boyfriend knocks on door, having been $hagging some slapper from down the road all afternoon

 

7:51 Jason's daughter: "Where you bi? You were meant to be here at 2 to take me to the Arboretum!"

 

JDB: "I were down the "

 

7:52:JD: "I phone Kev/Stu/Andy and they said you wasn't there"

 

JDB: "Errr, yeh, I went down Ladbroke's innit"

 

JD: "You went down Ladbroke's?"

 

JDB: "Yeh, I went down Ladbroke's"

 

JD: "Then show us yer bettin slip"

 

7:54 JDB thinks desperately, looks shifty, looks from side to side, then has brainwave: "I ain't got one"

 

JD: "You ain't got one?"

 

JDB: "No, I ain't got one"

 

JD "Why not"

 

7:56 JDB thinks desperately, looks shifty, looks from side to side, then has brainwave: "I wanted to be on Pardew being sacked but they weren't takin bets. He's out this week, Hughes comin in"

 

JDB shouts to St J in the dumper: "Dad! dad! Hear this. Ladbroke's only haven't stopped takin bets on Pardew bein sacked!"

 

7:57 St Jason starts thread

[notnowcato]

Does anyone know anyone who struck a bet with Ladcrooks on AP going? No?? Thought not.

 

Agreed with Chris O, I doubt very much that Laddies were running a book in the first place. Just because the OP's postmans, cousin's dog could not get a bet on does not mean the market has been suspended, more likely to mean there was no market in the first place.

[trousers]

Martin Samuel has another dig at Cortese in his column today: "Get rid of Pardew at your Peril"

 

He says: "The clever money says that Pardew will go...and Cortese will appoint the yes-man coach that he wants, probably from abroad."

 

Can't see Hughes being lined up if there is any truth in Samuel's hypothesis.

[St. Jason]

Does anyone know anyone who struck a bet with Ladcrooks on AP going? No?? Thought not.

 

Agreed with Chris O, I doubt very much that Laddies were running a book in the first place. Just because the OP's postmans, cousin's dog could not get a bet on does not mean the market has been suspended, more likely to mean there was no market in the first place.

 

Fook me, how can there be no market? You could walk into Ladbrokes today and ask to place a bet on Saints to be Champions of Europe by 2015, they'd compile the odd's, take your money and hey presto there is now a book open! As an earlier poster said "the bookies closed the book on over the rainbow" they will take a bet on anything!

[St. Jason]

Martin Samuel has another dig at Cortese in his column today: "Get rid of Pardew at your Peril"

 

He says: "The clever money says that Pardew will go...and Cortese will appoint the yes-man coach that he wants, probably from abroad."

 

Can't see Hughes being lined up if there is any truth in Samuel's hypothesis.

 

The clever money???? But according to various posters on here, there'd be no book open!!!

[JustMike]

None of whom had 3 million quid and more to spend in just one season

 

none of whom had -10, a club 2 weeks ish away from going bust, a total rebuild was required.

[sadoldgit]

we would have been promoted automatically on Saturday with a victory against Gillingham (by fielding a full strength team) and without the -10.

 

But we did have the minus 10 didn't we, so no chance of automatic qulaification by beating Gillingham and more of a need to see how the team would shpae up with Lambert in the starting line up so that Pardew gets a good fix on what he needs to do for next season.

 

Or we could just sack him, get someone new in and start over?

[notnowcato]

Fook me, how can there be no market? You could walk into Ladbrokes today and ask to place a bet on Saints to be Champions of Europe by 2015, they'd compile the odd's, take your money and hey presto there is now a book open! As an earlier poster said "the bookies closed the book on over the rainbow" they will take a bet on anything!

 

Fook me, I've been privvy to information on 2nd and 3rd tier clubs before and tried to strike a bet, I was knocked back every time. Mainly because they are very unlikely to be able to form a book - where they look to balance the for and against market and look for the overround as their margin.

 

Saints manager being sacked is more likely to have "in the know" knowledge than Saints being Champions League winners in 2015 and therefore you will definitely being able to strike the CL bet. Simple really.

[Rory]

If this rumour does turn out to be true, signing Hughes would be massive. He is a big name in world football and has done a very good job at his previous clubs. I really don't think it's true but it would show our intent to become a big club. I'm not losing any sleep over Pardew's potential impending departure, I'm more worried about Liebherr walking away!

[KK the 2nd]

Fook me, how can there be no market? You could walk into Ladbrokes today and ask to place a bet on Saints to be Champions of Europe by 2015, they'd compile the odd's, take your money and hey presto there is now a book open! As an earlier poster said "the bookies closed the book on over the rainbow" they will take a bet on anything!

That's just not true. A book will be formed where there is sufficient demand and the bookie is confident he has enough knowledge to assess the probability of the various potential outcomes. There was never any book on this or indeed is there any other book open at the moment on any League One, or indeed Championship, manager being sacked with any of bookies. All utter, utter b*ll*cks!

[hughieslastminutegoal]

What's your problem???

 

I don't know if this is a Ladbroke policy or just the Ladbroke in Woolston. Why do some fans feel the need to get personal and offensive? This a Saints Fan's Forum, where fellow fans come and share story's, pic's, tales and rumours. Like it or not there is 100% something going on, these rumours are on the Palace site, football forum site, 606 site etc! I hope there is nothing in it, I hope that Woolston Ladbroke's have stopped taking bet's because everyone at yesterdays game heard the same rumour and fancied making a couple of £ and popped in there on the way back to The Bridge Inn. True or not I think Mr Cortesse needs to say something, even if it's a simple "we stand 100% behind Alan and all these rumours are complete tosh"

 

I'm not questioning your integrity at all re. your post, but if I were Ladbrookes and a lot of people were trying to bet on what I thought was an unfounded rumour, I'd be very tempted to take their money!

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Hughes was gash at City, would be dumb to sack Pardew now. We would be the new QPR.

 

Hughes was gash at City because some of the up-their-own-arses players there were not keen on playing for someone who wasn't a big enough name.

Had some of them put in a decent shift, it might have been a different story.

 

When we had him as a player he had gone over, but I do still see him as potentially a good manager and could be the kind of manager to inject a bit more needed steel, if the owner (and NC) believed a change was needed. And I actually think it might be the kind of job Hughes could go for, to rekindle his passion after what must have been a depressing experience for him at City.

[hughieslastminutegoal]

I must say that I agree whole heartedly with this. Mark Hughes is really not the sort of manager we want at saints. He hardly has a glittering track record. However, Steve Mclaren will do for me. He's just won a trophy with a small team, so he would probably get us promoted and retaining the JTP cup. I would also be happy with martin Jol, but would prefer Scholari (who is just at some sh*t club at the moment and with our money we could buy out his contract). I wouldn't mind a Sol Campbell/Sven Goran eriksson management team or maybe Dean windass. However, my number one choice will always be Tommy widdrington.

 

Wiltshire saint managerial choices:

Alan Pardew

Tommy widdrington

Martin Jol

scholari

Steve McLaren

Sol Campbell/Sven Goran eriksson

Dean windass

 

Yes, a terrifically fine record as a player, much more experience and success than Mark Hughes........ You should go in for stand up, you'd pack them in at The Apollo.

[chrisobee]

Fook me, I've been privvy to information on 2nd and 3rd tier clubs before and tried to strike a bet, I was knocked back every time. Mainly because they are very unlikely to be able to form a book - where they look to balance the for and against market and look for the overround as their margin.

 

Saints manager being sacked is more likely to have "in the know" knowledge than Saints being Champions League winners in 2015 and therefore you will definitely being able to strike the CL bet. Simple really.

 

Clearly not simple enough

[LA77]

just out of interest, what price were we for the champions League winners 2015? I might cover my bet and do us to win the Europa, in case we mess up in the group stage.

[sadoldgit]

Whether this is true or not I don't know, but I don't feel that Cortese is backing Pardew 100% and get a feeling that we might have another manager this summer.