View From The Top Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Previous campaigns have been very good at producing a killer slogan (usually by the tories) but this time has been really lacklustre. I wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Well let's face it, said Tories best effort is just a complete contradiction in terms. "Vote for Change. Vote Convservative" The two are just incompatible really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Whatever winning methods the Americans use we follow suit and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 4 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Whatever winning methods the Americans use we follow suit and vice versa. Not sure I follow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Not sure I follow? the conservatives have utilised the Obama campaign method and slogan - vote for change. David Cameron has even flown over a coach who i think (could be wrong) was used to coach Obama in what to do in the prime ministerial debates. In 1992 the Republicans copied the methods used by John Majors team. In fact the Conservatives proactively tried to help which caused a bit of grief when Bill Clinton subsequently got elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Nancy Dunn, the American expert on debating technique who advised Barack Obama, has been on hand to offer coaching advice for the past few months http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/election_2010/article7097926.ece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 4 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 4 May, 2010 the conservatives have utilised the Obama campaign method and slogan - vote for change. David Cameron has even flown over a coach who i think (could be wrong) was used to coach Obama in what to do in the prime ministerial debates. In 1992 the Republicans copied the methods used by John Majors team. In fact the Conservatives proactively tried to help which caused a bit of grief when Bill Clinton subsequently got elected. I get that and it's fair point but it doesn't really explain the lack of a killer slogan that would adorn posters etc. The Tax Bomb one for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 I get that and it's fair point but it doesn't really explain the lack of a killer slogan that would adorn posters etc. The Tax Bomb one for example. I agree entirely, but they chose to copy the simple Obama campaign. I also now notice that "Yes we can" has featured prominently in Nick Smuggs vocabulary... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodfc Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Labour began the campaign attemping to undermine Cameron with him sitting on the bonnet of a 1980's car. This somewhat back fired on them so i guess they just gave up and moved onto plan B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Labour began the campaign attemping to undermine Cameron with him sitting on the bonnet of a 1980's car. This somewhat back fired on them so i guess they just gave up and moved onto plan B. Judging by the fact they're now telling voters to vote tactically i'd say they're now on plan z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodfc Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Judging by the fact they're now telling voters to vote tactically i'd say they're now on plan z. lol :badgrin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 I thought it was "We are all in this together" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 'I agree with Nick' is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Labour's "Vote Lib Dem" is an interesting one. OOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 Well let's face it, said Tories best effort is just a complete contradiction in terms. "Vote for Change. Vote Convservative" Daily Mail school of spelling per chance? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 4 May, 2010 Share Posted 4 May, 2010 How about: 'Brown is a T W A T' Good enough slogan, me thinks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Daily Mail school of spelling per chance? ;-) Think it was more the result of a 16 hour library session following just 3 hours sleep. The combination of sleep deprivation and high caffeine consumption does strange things to your brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Well let's face it, said Tories best effort is just a complete contradiction in terms. "Vote for Change. Vote Convservative" The two are just incompatible really Your sleep deprivation has affected your powers of reasoning. Labour are the current party in power. With me so far? So if the Conservatives are elected, the electorate would have voted for a change of government, wouldn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Your sleep deprivation has affected your powers of reasoning. Labour are the current party in power. With me so far? So if the Conservatives are elected, the electorate would have voted for a change of government, wouldn't they? Wes, check out the meaning of the word 'conserve'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Wes, check out the meaning of the word 'conserve'. Thanks for helping me in pointing to the obvious point it appears others missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Thanks for helping me in pointing to the obvious point it appears others missed. OK, if you're going to be obtuse. If the Tories get in, there will have been a change. If you had been a bit more Liberal in your interpretation, I wouldn't have been Labouring under this misapprehension. What's in a name? The pratt Clegg was rabbiting on again this morning about them being the new party and that was the difference between them and the old parties. OK, Nick, we got the message, that NEW = better, different, washes whiter, OLD = tired, a spent force, unchanging, etc. He must think that we were all born yesterday. We weren't and we see through you, Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 5 May, 2010 Author Share Posted 5 May, 2010 He must think that we were all born yesterday. We weren't and we see through you, Nick. The same can be said of Citizen Dave which is why the tories have failed to make a obvious breakthrough despite the state of the Labour campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 (edited) Whenever Dave appears I can't help but stare at his ultra shiny chin with its strangly pubescent stubble. The picture is completed by his lack of tie knotting knowledge, Rupert's rosy cheeks, and the way he so desperately clones himself upon Clegg and Blair. I think Charlie Brooker sums up his strange tendancies, and complete lack of substance perfectly: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2007/apr/02/comment.conservatives http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/03/charlie-brooker-cameron-brown-clegg The Conservative party is an eternally irritating force for wrong that appeals exclusively to bigots, toffs, money-minded machine men, faded entertainers and selfish, grasping simpletons who were born with some essential part of their soul missing. None of history's truly historical figures has been a Tory, apart from the ones that were, and they only did it by mistake. To reach a more advanced stage of intellectual evolution, humankind must first eradicate the "Tory instinct" from the brain - which is why mother nature is gradually making them less sexy with each passing generation. The final Tory is doomed to spend his or her life masturbating alone on a hillside, which, let's face it, is the way things were supposed to be all along. [/Quote] Edited 5 May, 2010 by Joensuu Added Brooker quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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