View From The Top Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 It's been clear for a while that Brown is a dead duck so who would you like to see replace him? Alan Johnson would be my choice.
IamLeGod Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Not neccessarily my choice, and I'm not overly bothered as I have made clear before I am not a Labour supporter. But it would seem that David Miliband is certainly amongst the favourites to take over. It was interesting that he was very non-commital following the attempts to oust Brown back in January
JackFrost Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 The sad fact about the state of the Labour Party is Gordon is the best they have.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 The sad fact about the state of the Labour Party is Gordon is the best they have. And still the rabid right can't run away with the election! A sad indictment of the complete shambles which the UK political parties are.
Joesaint Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Alan Johnson ha ha, def not a future PM I'll vote Tory on the 6th but I feel if Labour are to re-build and I think it will take along time, I'd say Miliband too BUT you will need to find a good chancellor which is rare for Labour as history shows!! Good luck though!!!
View From The Top Posted 2 May, 2010 Author Posted 2 May, 2010 Alan Johnson ha ha, def not a future PM I'll vote Tory on the 6th but I feel if Labour are to re-build and I think it will take along time, I'd say Miliband too BUT you will need to find a good chancellor which is rare for Labour as history shows!! Good luck though!!! Doesn't seem to bother you too much as you're voting for Osbourne.
ecuk268 Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Doesn't seem to bother you too much as you're voting for Osbourne. I bet that he got bullied at school - he's got that sort of face.
Saintandy666 Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Allegedly it's gonna be one of the Miliband brothers, so will be interesting to watch some siblingly rivalry. I hope it is Jack Straw though, I always liked him.
IamLeGod Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Allegedly it's gonna be one of the Miliband brothers, so will be interesting to watch some siblingly rivalry. I hope it is Jack Straw though, I always liked him. Just an interesting aside to worry the righties - the Miliband's dad was a lecturer up here at Leeds University and a renowned Communist. Wondered if there are some repressed Communist tendencies buried within the two?
dune Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Ed Balls and David Milliband are two people being touted for the job and I hope either of them get the job because they're both smarmy, dislikeable, and far too ****y in the way they present themselves. VFTT is right in suggesting someone like Alan Johnson because he'll appeal to the public. Any new leader will need to be someone who is seen as being honest, genuine and able to give straight answers. In politics you have to be able to avoid some questions, but Milliband and Balls are not very good at doing this - although they both think they're gods gift. They both come accross as being fake.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 The internal politics of the Labour Party make the Wilde, Lowe, and Crouch years look like a vicars tea party. Dont forget the Brothers, who have funded this campaign will want a massive say in the next leader. Harriet Harman is positioning herself ready to come forward and the Brothers will want a lurch to the left.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Ed Balls and David Milliband are two people being touted for the job and I hope either of them get the job because they're both smarmy, dislikeable, and far too ****y in the way they present themselves. VFTT is right in suggesting someone like Alan Johnson because he'll appeal to the public. Any new leader will need to be someone who is seen as being honest, genuine and able to give straight answers. In politics you have to be able to avoid some questions, but Milliband and Balls are not very good at doing this - although they both think they're gods gift. They both come accross as being fake. Surely those qualifications make them Tory more than any other political persuasion? But you're right, someone more like Johnson would be fitting.
dune Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Surely those qualifications make them Tory more than any other political persuasion? But you're right, someone more like Johnson would be fitting. The new generation of Labour MP's are equally as smarmy and like the Tories are from rich backgrounds. However unlike the Tories they try to hide it and come accross as something they're not. Nick Clegg is the same, a rich kid that is trying to present himself as the lad from Sheffield that done good.
View From The Top Posted 2 May, 2010 Author Posted 2 May, 2010 Ed Balls and David Milliband are two people being touted for the job and I hope either of them get the job because they're both smarmy, dislikeable, and far too ****y in the way they present themselves. VFTT is right in suggesting someone like Alan Johnson because he'll appeal to the public. Any new leader will need to be someone who is seen as being honest, genuine and able to give straight answers. In politics you have to be able to avoid some questions, but Milliband and Balls are not very good at doing this - although they both think they're gods gift. They both come accross as being fake. Just like Cameron then.
dune Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Just like Cameron then. Dave Cam is nowhere near as fake as Milliband and Piggy.
View From The Top Posted 2 May, 2010 Author Posted 2 May, 2010 Dave Cam is nowhere near as fake as Milliband and Piggy. Maybe in neo-nazi world Stanley.
dune Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Maybe in neo-nazi world Stanley. You have to go and spoil it don't you. ZZZZZzzzzzzzz.
View From The Top Posted 2 May, 2010 Author Posted 2 May, 2010 You have to go and spoil it don't you. ZZZZZzzzzzzzz. I can live with it Stanley what with you being a holocaust denying, NF supporting, un-educated, thick neo-nazi piece of scum 'n all.
dune Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 I can live with it Stanley what with you being a holocaust denying, NF supporting, un-educated, thick neo-nazi piece of scum 'n all. Boring.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 I can live with it Stanley what with you being a holocaust denying, NF supporting, un-educated, thick neo-nazi piece of scum 'n all. Are you intimating that Dune, like 'Dave', is trying to pretend that he is something he is not? That he is not really Dune, but more like a Stanley who has been reborn? Crumbs!
SuperMikey Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 The way I see it, it's going to be between: Jack Straw Ed Miliband Dave Miliband Harriet Harman Ed Balls Alastair Darling (not sure if he'd stand though) Out of them, i'd only really want Straw, Harman or Balls. The Miliband brothers are too vapid to make good leaders, nothing going on behind the eyes. Darling is also too Major-esque, very boring and dry, but could potentially be a sensible and good PM. Whether or not he'd stand though is another question. Either way, I think we could definitely see quite a few hats being thrown into the ring for the next leadership elections, but it will need to be somebody special to win back all the disillusioned Labour voters that have jumped off the bandwagon in the last few years.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 The way I see it, it's going to be between: Jack Straw Ed Miliband Dave Miliband Harriet Harman Ed Balls Alastair Darling. What's this, a nomination list for the politics **** of the year award? Oh no, it can't be, Mandelson and Brown aren't shortlisted.
revolution saint Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 I would say my choice would be Alan Johnson. Here's an interesting thought though: What if the price of a Lib Lab coalition is bye bye Gordon? You could end up with Vince Cable as chancellor and a new PM. I think a lot of people could live with this scenario except the Tories. Surely it'd be their nightmare?
solentstars Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 And still the rabid right can't run away with the election! A sad indictment of the complete shambles which the UK political parties are. got to agree only getting 36% of the popular vote is a shambles for the torys:D
SuperMikey Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 What's this, a nomination list for the politics **** of the year award? Oh no, it can't be, Mandelson and Brown aren't shortlisted. Mandelson wouldn't qualify, you have to be human to be a c*nt.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Mandelson wouldn't qualify, you have to be human to be a c*nt. Good point. Very good point. And I didn't say the c word. I said 'chumps'. http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid62612474001?bctid=42801753001 (Any excuse to post this )
South City Si Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Mandelson wouldn't qualify, you have to be human to be a c*nt. Mandy also isnt an MP.
Fuengirola Saint Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 I bet that he got bullied at school - he's got that sort of face. If he wasn´t he should have been!
Fuengirola Saint Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Just an interesting aside to worry the righties - the Miliband's dad was a lecturer up here at Leeds University and a renowned Communist. Wondered if there are some repressed Communist tendencies buried within the two? Hope so.
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 got to agree only getting 36% of the popular vote is a shambles for the torys:D Well Blair won a 66 majority with 36% of the vote in 2005.
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Hope so. Yup I love our left wing PMs in waiting.
solentstars Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Well Blair won a 66 majority with 36% of the vote in 2005. yes and it shows how crap this voteing system is when 64% voted against;)
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 yes and it shows how crap this voteing system is when 64% voted against;) Its flawed but you do need a government that can act. PR Would give us an election every year.
solentstars Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 (edited) Its flawed but you do need a government that can act. PR Would give us an election every year. why i don,t think it happens in most European country's with germany and france they seem to do well, and morally we can,t keep electing governments with a massive majority and small percentage of the vote. it will mean less people having faith in government and its not the will of the people. Edited 2 May, 2010 by solentstars
IamLeGod Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 why i don,t think it happens in most European country's and germany and france seem to do well. Both are quite different systems to ours. Whilst Germany had been quite stable for a long time, there has been a greater degree of friction, unrest and instability over the last few years. And it is worth noting that France has a Presidential system which makes it quite hard to compare to ours.
solentstars Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Both are quite different systems to ours. Whilst Germany had been quite stable for a long time, there has been a greater degree of friction, unrest and instability over the last few years. And it is worth noting that France has a Presidential system which makes it quite hard to compare to ours. i agree but we can tailor a system to suit us,its not rocket science:D
Thedelldays Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 i agree but we can tailor a system to suit us,its not rocket science:D we have one already
Badger Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Just an interesting aside to worry the righties - the Miliband's dad was a lecturer up here at Leeds University and a renowned Communist. Wondered if there are some repressed Communist tendencies buried within the two? As seen on Wikipedia: Born in London, David Miliband is the elder son of Jewish immigrants Marion Kozak, from Poland, and the late Marxist intellectual Ralph Miliband, who fled Belgium during World War II.[2][3] He has said "I am the child of Jewish immigrants and that is a very important part of my identity." A jewish marxist to lead the Labour Party? It may follow in Manny Shinwell's footsteps but not someone I would want to head up a Government.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Just an interesting aside to worry the righties - the Miliband's dad was a lecturer up here at Leeds University and a renowned Communist. Wondered if there are some repressed Communist tendencies buried within the two? Sounds perfect to me, Labour needs to get back to it's core values after this flirtation with the right.
Badger Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 The way I see it, it's going to be between: Jack Straw Ed Miliband Dave Miliband Harriet Harman Ed Balls Alastair Darling (not sure if he'd stand though) Out of them, i'd only really want Straw, Harman or Balls. The Miliband brothers are too vapid to make good leaders, nothing going on behind the eyes. Darling is also too Major-esque, very boring and dry, but could potentially be a sensible and good PM. . Having now entered the era of the (presedential style) leadership debate the likes of Alistair Darling,or Major,will no longer be in contention no matterhow good the oratory,principles,or policy. It isthe 'bright eyed,bushy tail' that will be projected for election by the simpleton [floating/liberal] electorate.It started with Blair and has continued with Nick Smeg.
benjii Posted 2 May, 2010 Posted 2 May, 2010 Having now entered the era of the (presedential style) leadership debate the likes of Alistair Darling,or Major,will no longer be in contention no matterhow good the oratory,principles,or policy. It isthe 'bright eyed,bushy tail' that will be projected for election by the simpleton [floating/liberal] electorate.It started with Blair and has continued with Nick Smeg. Oooh, you clever boy. Good one.
Eastcowzer Posted 3 May, 2010 Posted 3 May, 2010 Allegedly it's gonna be one of the Miliband brothers, so will be interesting to watch some siblingly rivalry. I hope it is Jack Straw though, I always liked him. Has anyone else noticed that yhe younger Millipede, (Ed), bear a striking resemblance to Wallace, from Wallace and Grommitt
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