Saints after Hayden Mullins

[Arizona]

Sadly I think the £35k Pompey owe us would probably cover Mullins' wages for about a week, hence I wouldn't bother, even if we could get him for less than half a million. Would be a good player at this level, but if he came it would only be for the money.

[slickmick]

Skates fans I know have said some months back that he is their worst player.

[Thedelldays]

Sadly I think the £35k Pompey owe us would probably cover Mullins' wages for about a week, hence I wouldn't bother, even if we could get him for less than half a million. Would be a good player at this level, but if he came it would only be for the money.

As opposed to most players that will come to saints

 

You telling me fonte dropped down a league for the love of the area

[Nexstar]

Pardew would be able to get the best out of him, like he did at west ham. We need cover at centre defensive mid aswell.

[Chez]

Skates fans I know have said some months back that he is their worst player.

 

I concur. "You can have Mokeona for free..." and "I'll drive both there myself" were the comments I got earlier today.

 

Big old drop down to League 1.

[Turkish]

Was just thinking what an utter c::nt he looked in the semi final against Tottenham.

 

Got to say i agree with Dulldays on this one though...the fact that some of you can't decipher the gulf between being an average player in the Premier League and the standard of player in League One is really quite disturbing.

 

They are probably the same ones that think Lambert should play for England.

[lambertsrightleg]

Supprised the mail have any jounalists free what so ever. Brown calling someone a biggot today must have sent them into over drive.

 

Btw the guy from the mail who does the paper review on ssn on Tuesdays has to be one of the biggest idiots in football. If he is in charge of their football section then god knows why anyone would read it. He still thinks we play at the dell.

 

steve curry is a legend. fact

[The9]

Seems like a reasonable signing if we can rip off the Skates, Mullins has worked for Pardew before but I wouldn't like to think the kind of inflated wages he'd be getting...

[saint1977]

If there is a genuine interest there, we should be looking to take advantage of Pompey's financial situation. They still owe us money, so we should go in with a tiny offer, say £65,000 with the agreement to write off the £35,000 they owe us, making the total value of the deal £100,000.

 

I'd be amazed if they didn't seriously consider it, more important than the short-term cashflow, they'd be shedding a £1m salary from their books. We obviously wouldn't pay him anywhere near that amount, but I'm sure he's well aware he's not likely to find any club stupid enough to pay him that sort of money anymore.

 

Good shout and also if Mullins is settled in the area and has kids, he probably wouldn't want to uproot them unneccessarily from schools etc. He's 31, as Steve says he knows his current wage won't be replicated, he knows Pardew, knows we are ambitious and debt free and knows Pompey could go pop altogether. Could be a good player in L1 and would give Morgan and Hammond the competition they need to become as consistent as the rest of the team has. Can also play RB and CB from memory.

[Chez]

but I wouldn't like to think the kind of inflated wages he'd be getting...

 

on the creditors list he appears twice in the list of player liabilities, the first for £21,150, the second for £101,000. Not sure what these figures represent. Monthly wages, bonuses perhaps?

[Tac-tics]

Regardless of the money situation, if I was a Poopey fan, I'd be lol at us if there's any truth in this.

[Toadhall Saint]

Not a bad player for League 1 but I thought we were building a team in the summer that will compete in the Championship?

[Thedelldays]

Not a bad player for League 1 but I thought we were building a team in the summer that will compete in the Championship?

yes, hence why we are linked with mullins

[CHAZZA 92]

Would solve RB and CM problems!

[ivangolac]

Signing Skates was a major contribution to our recent demise ....

 

Hopefully this policy will NEVER be repeated.

[S-Clarke]

Signing Skates was a major contribution to our recent demise ....

 

Hopefully this policy will NEVER be repeated.

 

who are you referring to?

 

hope it's not Johnny v as he was terrific for us.

[70's Mike]

who are you referring to?

 

hope it's not Johnny v as he was terrific for us.

 

Or Crouch

[Matthew Le God]

Harry?

[AndyNorthernSaints]

would easily stand out in league 1...LOL at anyone who thinks otherwise

 

Agree.

[ericofarabia]

Seems like a reasonable signing if we can rip off the Skates, Mullins has worked for Pardew before but I wouldn't like to think the kind of inflated wages he'd be getting...

 

I get a bit worried by this sort of thing after the Raziak/Idiakez/Rudi fiasco with Burley. Just because it worked once doesn't mean it will work again.

[Toadhall Saint]

yes, hence why we are linked with mullins

 

Great for L1 but not so great a year older and in the Championship.

[jam]

They are probably the same ones that think Lambert should play for England.

 

Someone actually phoned in 606 to make that case a few weeks back. Surely the fact that they put him on air is proof that the BBC hates us.

[Thedelldays]

Great for L1 but not so great a year older and in the Championship.

what..32 is too old..?

[rshephard3]

Hayden Mullins would be a fantastic signing. Lets not forget that we are one of the richest clubs in the country. Barring the improbability that the men at the top walk to leave us high and dry we WILL go up next campaign. So why the hell not buy someone with experience in CM battles? I agree with the previous poster who questions peoples ability to realise the potential that a 'run of the mill' prem player has in league 1, even at the age of 31. Anyone who suggests he is not a decent footballer simply hasn't seen him play the game. I'm not saying he's a world beater but to get out of league 1? YES PLEASE.

[wightman35]

Well worth signing if the price is right. £1.00 million is, however, fantasy land. (Well that seems to me the state down the M27...........).

Would Mullins though, not rather sit out his contract like some of our expensive players did?

[Andy_Porter]

Well worth signing if the price is right. £1.00 million is, however, fantasy land. (Well that seems to me the state down the M27...........).

Would Mullins though, not rather sit out his contract like some of our expensive players did?

 

He might have a relegation clause in his contract so his contract wouldn't be quite so lucrative.

[Ponty]

Good signing. Dodgy name.

[NickG]

a midfielder not far off the peak of his career

 

plays in a role which isn't our strongest

 

can also play at RB - another of our weaker positions

 

has previously had a good working relationship with our manager

 

has been playing regularly, about the last 5 years and 150 apperances in the premiership.

 

...and yet some don't think he is good enough for us in the 3rd division!

[John Boy Saint]

Was he the one who was up on an indecency charge at a WHU for getting his old chap out while standing on the bar at a Christmas function?

 

Or was that a different WHU player.

[doddisalegend]

If he comes here I guess Hammond will be warming the bench next season then.

[jam]

a midfielder not far off the peak of his career

 

plays in a role which isn't our strongest

 

can also play at RB - another of our weaker positions

 

has previously had a good working relationship with our manager

 

has been playing regularly, about the last 5 years and 150 apperances in the premiership.

 

...and yet some don't think he is good enough for us in the 3rd division!

 

I think it's the suggestion that we'd pay £1million for him that's the problem and the potential wages if that fee is accurate.

[Ricky Redstripe]

If there is a genuine interest there, we should be looking to take advantage of Pompey's financial situation. They still owe us money, so we should go in with a tiny offer, say £65,000 with the agreement to write off the £35,000 they owe us, making the total value of the deal £100,000.

 

I'd be amazed if they didn't seriously consider it, more important than the short-term cashflow, they'd be shedding a £1m salary from their books. We obviously wouldn't pay him anywhere near that amount, but I'm sure he's well aware he's not likely to find any club stupid enough to pay him that sort of money anymore.

 

Spot on, that's the way we should approach it. He would be a useful squad player.

[StuRomseySaint]

I think we should pay him £1 now and £999,999 after 40 appearances, with no sell-on clause.

 

Play him for 39 games then sell him.

[CWD]

A player, proven at PL level with bags of experience, good working relationship with our manager, can play in two of our (arguably) weakest positions, not Paul Wotton?

 

I'll have him. And im sure we could get him for less than a mil too

[oxfordshire_saint]

Was he the one who was up on an indecency charge at a WHU for getting his old chap out while standing on the bar at a Christmas function?

 

Or was that a different WHU player.

 

That was Hayden Foxe, ginger Aussie defender.

[pimpin4rizeal]

i was just reading a old west ham forum about mullins move to pompey and 90 percent of posters thought he had done a solid job and wished him well. i think he would be a top dm at this level

[Arizona]

As opposed to most players that will come to saints

 

You telling me fonte dropped down a league for the love of the area

 

I'd have thought most that come here want to play at a higher level, possibly even the Premier League in 3 or 4 years time.

 

I can't think of anyone except Fonte who signed from a higher league and he knew Palace were in the sh*tter back then. Can't think of too many other CCC clubs who could have afforded his transfer fee, hence he came here. I'm sure wages were part of the reason, but not the sole reason.

 

If Mullins came here, where's the motivation. He has already been to the Prem and done it all before. He wont be at that level when he's 34 or 35, so there is no exciting future for him here.

 

He is too good for League 1, the question is would he play as well if he were in League 1 with no real prospects of Prem football. It could be like Hasselbaink and Fowler at Cardiff all over again. I have never seen two players look so disinterested in a game of football as they did at SMS a few years ago. It was almost comical.

[Scudamore]

I'd have thought most that come here want to play at a higher level, possibly even the Premier League in 3 or 4 years time.

 

I can't think of anyone except Fonte who signed from a higher league and he knew Palace were in the sh*tter back then. Can't think of too many other CCC clubs who could have afforded his transfer fee, hence he came here. I'm sure wages were part of the reason, but not the sole reason.

 

If Mullins came here, where's the motivation. He has already been to the Prem and done it all before. He wont be at that level when he's 34 or 35, so there is no exciting future for him here.

 

He is too good for League 1, the question is would he play as well if he were in League 1 with no real prospects of Prem football. It could be like Hasselbaink and Fowler at Cardiff all over again. I have never seen two players look so disinterested in a game of football as they did at SMS a few years ago. It was almost comical.

 

Kind of comes down to what Pardew was saying about Lallana though doesn't it?

 

There's too many good footballers that have nothing to show for a career in football.

 

Here he would have a real opportunity to be part of a teams charge towards the Premier League and all the medals and cracking days that come part and parcel of being a winning team.

 

In this particular case i'm not sure that would be a big enough draw compared to the big wages and winning 10-20% of your games in the Premier League which is the other option for Mullins.

 

But that's a choice for him if this is anything other than paper talk.

 

Personally (and i've said it before) i think footballers are pretty stupid individuals and he'd plump for the latter. But we shall see.

[Professor]

Hope this is not true. Managers should have a wider vison that just looking at players who they have managed before. Burley was very much in this mold. If Saints are to spend big on a midfield player there must be better available, and with more than a year left in the tyres.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Hope this is not true. Managers should have a wider vison that just looking at players who they have managed before. Burley was very much in this mold. If Saints are to spend big on a midfield player there must be better available, and with more than a year left in the tyres.

 

Do all players get written off aged 32 now?

 

Maybe Pardew might use him to help us get out of this league first rather than thinking about challenging for the Premier league in a year or two.

[doddisalegend]

Do all players get written off aged 32 now?

Maybe Pardew might use him to help us get out of this league first rather than thinking about challenging for the Premier league in a year or two.

 

Looking at some of the older players we signed this season though we should be wary . Murty, Connolly and Jahidi while they are all still good players none of them have been able to sustatin a full season becuase of injury and age. I suppose injuries hit you harder at 30+. Good experinced players are an asset if they stay fit.

 

Also if we're just going to use him to get out of this division then spending a million on him seems over the top. Why not spend a million on a good player in his mid twenties that can go onto the EPL and get more bang for the clubs buck?

[Durleyfos]

a midfielder not far off the peak of his career

 

plays in a role which isn't our strongest

 

can also play at RB - another of our weaker positions

 

has previously had a good working relationship with our manager

 

has been playing regularly, about the last 5 years and 150 apperances in the premiership.

 

...and yet some don't think he is good enough for us in the 3rd division!

 

you have to wonder what colour the sky is in their world!

[The Kraken]

He might have a relegation clause in his contract so his contract wouldn't be quite so lucrative.

 

Highly unlikely given Pompey's shambolic mismanagement and total disregard for financial discretion when offering contracts.

[NickG]

Looking at some of the older players we signed this season though we should be wary . Murty, Connolly and Jahidi while they are all still good players none of them have been able to sustatin a full season becuase of injury and age. I suppose injuries hit you harder at 30+. Good experinced players are an asset if they stay fit.

 

Also if we're just going to use him to get out of this division then spending a million on him seems over the top. Why not spend a million on a good player in his mid twenties that can go onto the EPL and get more bang for the clubs buck?

 

Murty 35

Jaidi 34

Connolly suffered injuries since 2007

 

Mullins 31 and no history of injuries

[scotty]

Looking at some of the older players we signed this season though we should be wary . Murty, Connolly and Jahidi while they are all still good players none of them have been able to sustatin a full season becuase of injury and age. I suppose injuries hit you harder at 30+. Good experinced players are an asset if they stay fit.

 

Also if we're just going to use him to get out of this division then spending a million on him seems over the top. Why not spend a million on a good player in his mid twenties that can go onto the EPL and get more bang for the clubs buck?

 

thats fair comment, what is Mullins injury history like? Murty and Connolly were both a bit dodgy fitness-wise when they came here, I imagine their wages/fees took account of that. Injury-prone players tend to stay that way, and it doesnt improve with age. My dad and I still use the catchphrase, delivered Motson-style with an air of shocked amazement and horror- "...and Pearsons hobbling!!!......Stuart Pearson is definitely hobbling!!!!......"

[CWD]

Look at the players pompey had when they were promoted - Merson and Sherwood, then Sheringham. Experience really can give you the edge in the FL

[rolosfc]

I'd like to see Jhon Viafara back. Why was he allowed to leave for free?

 

Do Do Do! I miss Viafara, would love his passion back in the side

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Looking at some of the older players we signed this season though we should be wary . Murty, Connolly and Jahidi while they are all still good players none of them have been able to sustatin a full season becuase of injury and age. I suppose injuries hit you harder at 30+. Good experinced players are an asset if they stay fit.

 

Also if we're just going to use him to get out of this division then spending a million on him seems over the top. Why not spend a million on a good player in his mid twenties that can go onto the EPL and get more bang for the clubs buck?

 

Fair point but i'm not saying sign him for 1M. He would certainly be a better option than Wotton and James in central midfield and possibly a better option than Morgan or Hammond during the long season thinking about it. We need experience as well if we are to pick up more points in some away games next season.

[Pilchards]

Look at the players pompey had when they were promoted - Merson and Sherwood, then Sheringham. Experience really can give you the edge in the FL

 

Very true, Pardew knows the guy better, we don't?

What we lack is a true leader on the pitch, Kelvin can't do it at the back and Hammond can't do it full stop!

 

I trust Pardew and not the comments of some saints fans on this forum.

[Toadhall Saint]

what..32 is too old..?

 

Not if your 45!