Brown calls Labour voter a "bigot"

[trousers]

Whoops....Brown's "Kinnock" moment I venture....

[dune]

Whoops....Brown's "Kinnock" moment I venture....

 

Tell us more.

[trousers]

Prime Minister Gordon Brown has been caught on microphone describing a voter he had just spoken to in Rochdale as a "bigoted woman". The 65-year-old woman had challenged Mr Brown on a number of issues including immigration, crime and the economy during the exchange.

As he got into his car, he was still wearing a broadcast microphone and was heard to say "that was a disaster".

It comes after Labour vowed for him to meet more ordinary voters.

The comments were made as he got into his car after speaking to Gillian Duffy, not realising that he had a Sky News microphone pinned to his shirt.

He told an aide: "That was a disaster - they should never have put me with that woman. Whose idea was that? It's just ridiculous..."

Asked what she had said, he replied: "Everything, she was just a bigoted woman."

Mrs Duffy, a widow, said: "I haven't had a chance to listen to it yet but if that's what he said I'm very upset. I'm very annoyed."

Immediately after the exchange she had said she would vote Labour. But after being told about his comments she said she would not.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8649012.stm

[badgerx16]

But what did SHE say ?

 

Maybe he's right ! ( Though he should have been more careful )

[SO16_Saint]

"BIGOT" was a codeword for Operation Overlord, defining ultra top-secret clearance required to know details of the landing plans.[1] Those with this knowledge were called "BIGOTed".

[trousers]

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid69900095001?bctid=81638303001

[Johnny Bognor]

1247: Gordon Brown is asked by Vine about his comments towards Gillian Duffy. The prime minister says he apologises "if I said anything that is hurtful and I will apologise to her personally". Vine then plays the tape of Mr Brown's unguarded comments. The prime minister repeats his apology.

 

 

It's OK everyone, he's said sorry. I hope he learns from this experience as he did from the worst financial disaster in history.

 

I suppose when he is finally done with being PM, he will be one of the most rounded individuals on the planet and learned all of these lessons from all of his mistakes.......and even then, no-one would vote for him.

 

 

 

Latest update

1250: While Jeremy Vine played the tape of his comments, TV cameras filmed Gordon Brown (in a studio in Manchester) with his head in his hands.

 

 

Old Calamity Clown is good for comedy value alone.

Edited 28 April, 2010 by Johnny Bognor

[aintforever]

I'm sure he will be popular with the female voters now! What he said comes across as sexist IMO.

[RedAndWhite91]

I think this could be the final nail in the coffin.

[SO16_Saint]

The only thing wrong here is that he's been caught saying it - not that he said it - IMO.

 

Im sure Cameron and whatshisface have said the same or worse but just not been heard saying it.

[Johnny Bognor]

The only thing wrong here is that he's been caught saying it - not that he said it - IMO.

 

Im sure Cameron and whatshisface have said the same or worse but just not been heard saying it.

 

 

Still funny though.

[SO16_Saint]

Still funny though.

 

yeah, it is!

 

:smt043

[RedFear]

SHOCK Brown doesnt like a memeber of the public. oh dear well i dont like everyone either

 

i was watching live when he met her and when she started ranting about anything that came into her head and the the inevitiable moan about immingration my eyes rolled and i thought we here we go again. and her inteview after doesnt make her sound exactly up on things

 

the other parties must be thinking, there by the grace of god.....etc etc

 

if anyone saw cameroon meeting yoff yesterday and noticed his leaning back away from them the whole time will realise that polticians often meet people they would rather not and may even make comment about them in private that they rather not got made public

[dune]

I do hope this get's maxiumum media coverage.

[trousers]

I don't think the "bigot" remark is the most damaging element here....it's the fact that his first reaction was to slate his advisors for letting him meet a non-scripted member of the public in the first place

[sperm_john]

perhaps the funniest clip i have ever seen politically related ...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8649174.stm

[dune]

perhaps the funniest clip i have ever seen politically related ...

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8649174.stm

 

Thanks for that. That has made my day because Gordon Brown has just blown his election chances.

 

Ha Ha Ha, that footage is priceless.

[Johnny Bognor]

I don't think the "bigot" remark is the most damaging element here....it's the fact that his first reaction was to slate his advisors for letting him meet a non-scripted member of the public in the first place

 

You make a good point here, because Clown wanted to show that he was going out to meet 'real' people (if your definition of 'real' are those pre-selected by Medelsome).

 

 

Thanks for that. That has made my day because Gordon Brown has just blown his election chances.

 

Ha Ha Ha, that footage is priceless.

 

Yes he has. The question now is how this will affect the outcome. In Liberal marginals (Lib-Lab) this could win Cleggy a few seats. In the Lab-Con marginals, this plays into the hands of the Tories.

 

If last week's debate was a score draw between Clegg and Cameron, Clown has just scored an almighty own goal.

 

Medolsome is going to have to put in some overtime to spin Labour out of this one.

[buctootim]

Big reaction over very little. He met some old bat, said something mild about her as he drove off. So?

 

You guys are really sucking up the media froth of reporting a small time incident as if it were nationally important. 'How easy to manipulate and gullible are the electorate' is the real story.

Edited 28 April, 2010 by buctootim

[Johnny Bognor]

Big reaction over very little. He met some old bat, said something mild about her as he drove off. So?

 

You guys are really sucking up the media froth of reporting a small time incident as if it were nationally important. 'How easy to manipulate and gullible are the electorate' is the real story.

 

I don't remember the last time when a serving prime minister and one of the world's leaders insults one of his electorate.

 

He trys to play the good old man of substance and a man of the people but the guy is a complete ****

 

I don't care who gets in as long as he is dispensed with.

[benjii]

 

It's like Brass Eye.

[TopGun]

I don't remember the last time when a serving prime minister and one of the world's leaders insults one of his electorate.

 

He trys to play the good old man of substance and a man of the people but the guy is a complete ****

 

I don't care who gets in as long as he is dispensed with.

 

Get over it you old woman!

[badgerx16]

I don't remember the last time when a serving prime minister and one of the world's leaders insults one of his electorate.

Every politician insults the electorate every time they say 'trust me, I know best'.

[Johnny Bognor]

Get over it you old woman!

 

Is insulting other people a preserve of the left? Just interested, that's all.

 

Every politician insults the electorate every time they say 'trust me, I know best'.

 

To be fair, you've got a point.

Edited 28 April, 2010 by Johnny Bognor

[dune]

So that's Rochdale going Lib Dem.:smt043

 

Get back on the road Mr Clown and visit some Tory/Labour marginals.

[OldNick]

Big reaction over very little. He met some old bat, said something mild about her as he drove off. So?

 

You guys are really sucking up the media froth of reporting a small time incident as if it were nationally important. 'How easy to manipulate and gullible are the electorate' is the real story.

I think that it just shows that he says one thing and thinks another. If you listen to it, He is sorry that he still had his microphone on.

I dont doubt all politicians think these things but , what a bad mistake and shows that he is inexperienced dealing with the public when it is not stage managed.

As for the lady, I felt she was concerned about the nations future and was getting distressed at the end of the interview.

I would think Brown will get a lot of flak about this and his claims to be a man of substance have been torpedoed below the water line. The lady will be pressured into being wheeled out so Brown can go and meet her to say sorry in front of the cameras to his terms.

[bridge too far]

Big reaction over very little. He met some old bat, said something mild about her as he drove off. So?

 

You guys are really sucking up the media froth of reporting a small time incident as if it were nationally important. 'How easy to manipulate and gullible are the electorate' is the real story.

 

How true this is. I've just seen Nick Robinson of the BBC saying 'she had said she was going to vote Labour but she's not voting for them now'.

 

No she's not - she actually said (and I heard her say it) 'I'm not going to vote for any of them.'

[trousers]

Labour supporters in patronising retorts shocker....

[dune]

How true this is. I've just seen Nick Robinson of the BBC saying 'she had said she was going to vote Labour but she's not voting for them now'.

 

No she's not - she actually said (and I heard her say it) 'I'm not going to vote for any of them.'

 

Who cares what she does, it's what the other working class ordinary people think that you've got to worry about. Brown was totally disrespectful to a decent lady. He's a **** of the highest order and this will turn a lot of Labour voters to the Liberals in the northern seats. FACTAMUNDO.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I agree with an earlier poster; the funny thing is him moaning about her being put in front of him. He wants to meet ordinary people, but only if they doff their cap, and suck up to him.

 

Watch the Labour spin macine go into overdrive, as they dig for dirt on this women.

 

Alister campbell and Mandy must be tearing their hair out, they've tried to cover up his " psychological flaws" but he keeps putting his great clunking fist in it.

[bridge too far]

Labour supporters in patronising retorts shocker....

 

My retort was about the media froth, bias, misreporting - call it what you will.

[dune]

I think that it just shows that he says one thing and thinks another. If you listen to it, He is sorry that he still had his microphone on.

I dont doubt all politicians think these things but , what a bad mistake and shows that he is inexperienced dealing with the public when it is not stage managed.

As for the lady, I felt she was concerned about the nations future and was getting distressed at the end of the interview.

I would think Brown will get a lot of flak about this and his claims to be a man of substance have been torpedoed below the water line. The lady will be pressured into being wheeled out so Brown can go and meet her to say sorry in front of the cameras to his terms.

 

Not if the tabloids get there first and according to SKY news they're already camped outside her house.

[Johnny Bognor]

I would like to thank Gordon for inspiring me to finally change my Avatar (as the last one came about after an argument with Nineteen Canteen). NC = GB = ****

Edited 28 April, 2010 by Johnny Bognor

[dune]

My retort was about the media froth, bias, misreporting - call it what you will.

 

lol

[View From The Top]

I'm surprised that anyone is surprised!

 

The bloke is a Class A idiot and one of the main reasons why I'm not, for the 1st time in a national election, voting Labour.

[dune]

Oh dear oh dear oh dear, just seen Clowns so called apology and he's slumped in front of the mic's with his head in his hands. The blokes heading for a nervous breakdown.

[View From The Top]

I would like to thank Gordon for inspiring me to finally change my Avatar (as the last one came about after an argument with Nineteen Canteen). NC = GB = ****

 

I can't see it clearly. What is it?

[OldNick]

How true this is. I've just seen Nick Robinson of the BBC saying 'she had said she was going to vote Labour but she's not voting for them now'.

 

No she's not - she actually said (and I heard her say it) 'I'm not going to vote for any of them.'

was that in the initial interview before he called her a bigot?

Are you not dismayed by Brown in this or are you going to blame the media conspiracy?

How many more times do you need to see Brown to act like this, to realise that Brown/Mandelson?campbell only want him to be seen at stagemanaged events. Elvis Presley impersonators will be booked fully at this rate.

[Johnny Bognor]

I can't see it clearly. What is it?

 

GB's magic moment with subtitles.

 

First Labour is dumped by Peppa Pig, now this :smt043

[benjii]

How true this is. I've just seen Nick Robinson of the BBC saying 'she had said she was going to vote Labour but she's not voting for them now'.

 

No she's not - she actually said (and I heard her say it) 'I'm not going to vote for any of them.'

 

Er, right. Which concurs with what Nick Robinson said.

 

She said she had a postal vote for Labour ready to go but now she won't be voting.

[trousers]

 

My retort was about the media froth, bias, misreporting - call it what you will.

Suffice to say, if this had been Cameron I'm sure Mandy and co would be wetting themselves with delight.

 

The biggest damage here is not what he said ABOUT the 'batty old labour supporting lady' but how his instinct was to slag off his advisors for letting him meet her in the first place.

 

Like him or not, whenever cameron has been confronted with people dlagging off his policies over the last couple of weeks he seems to relish the challenge and debate whereas Brown seems I'll at ease.

 

Just an observation

[dune]

Clown with his head in his hands.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8649200.stm

[bridge too far]

was that in the initial interview before he called her a bigot?

Are you not dismayed by Brown in this or are you going to blame the media conspiracy?

How many more times do you need to see Brown to act like this, to realise that Brown/Mandelson?campbell only want him to be seen at stagemanaged events. Elvis Presley impersonators will be booked fully at this rate.

 

Yes, she reportedly said she would vote for him. Then she heard about his calling her a bigot. At that point she said she wouldn't vote for anyone.

 

Yes, I'm dismayed and disappointed. And yes, I think he was probably voicing an opinion in private. In the same way as many other politicians (and others) do. Sometimes some of them get caught out.

 

It doesn't matter whether the event was stage-managed (it wasn't this time) or not. He didn't say it in public - he said it in private.

 

Hypocritical? That means saying one thing and meaning another. He didn't say to her 'I don't think you're a bigot'. He said privately that he thought she was.

 

None of us here are hypocrites though, are we

[benjii]

Yes, she reportedly said she would vote for him. Then she heard about his calling her a bigot. At that point she said she wouldn't vote for anyone.

 

Yes, I'm dismayed and disappointed. And yes, I think he was probably voicing an opinion in private. In the same way as many other politicians (and others) do. Sometimes some of them get caught out.

 

It doesn't matter whether the event was stage-managed (it wasn't this time) or not. He didn't say it in public - he said it in private.

 

Hypocritical? That means saying one thing and meaning another. He didn't say to her 'I don't think you're a bigot'. He said privately that he thought she was.

 

None of us here are hypocrites though, are we

 

Although, of course, now he's been caught he doesn't think she's a bigot anymore.

[View From The Top]

None of us here are hypocrites though, are we

 

None of us are standing for the highest office in the realm and asking people to trust and vote for us.*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*JB would like to on a anti-quango manifesto which I'd vote for but don't tell him that.

[OldNick]

Just watched the initial interview and she was just a ocncerned woman who asks fair questions. Brown answered them and I dont think he would have got the bad press he was worried about. His attitude in the car just shows that he was saying all his mealy mouth stuff but all the time was resenting that a voter dare ask him pertinent questions

[trousers]

Damn....I was just about to post along the lines of: "Next we'll have Mandy on camera spinning that 'It shows that Gordon is human' " and then up he pops on Sky News saying those very words. Beat me to it Mandy!

[dune]

Just watched the initial interview and she was just a ocncerned woman who asks fair questions. Brown answered them and I dont think he would have got the bad press he was worried about. His attitude in the car just shows that he was saying all his mealy mouth stuff but all the time was resenting that a voter dare ask him pertinent questions

 

In that so called apology interview he was trying to paint the woman as a racist. What a **** Clown is.

[Johnny Bognor]

I can't see it clearly. What is it?

 

 

My new one is better :smt043:smt043:smt043

[trousers]

Of course, the predictablity of all this is that we'll get non-Labour people saying this is a major gaffe, we'll get labour people saying it's a minor lapse but the simple bottom line is it will cost him votes. That's what happens in politics.