The lads who got nicked at P*mpey...

[saintjay77]

I think you might end up very surprised. I would imagine the fence shakers will get that, the stone throwers will get a couple of months inside of massive community orders and the punch throwers will get 2 years... IF the police push for custodials.

 

And whats wrong with that?

 

If the targeted "Risk" element knew it wasnt worth getting involved in front of a shed load of Police surly the face painted mongs who have never been involved in this type of thing before should have known better?

[ecuk268]

I think that the authorities need to come down hard on these people. There's far too much fence shaking going on these days.

 

It would never have happened when I was a boy. Next thing you know, they'll be knocking on peoples doors and running away.

[red robbo]

good luck to the lads,there really are some sad people on here,the skate game is one of many games since we have been at SMS where the away fans should of been kept behind and the area cleared(anyone been to millwall?) but the ob seem to want to justify their existance,it all could of been avoided,the amount of times away fans have been led by the plume knowing full well its full of our "risk element" hoping it will kick off!

[Scudamore]

It's like a modern day Robin Hood story. Rattling fences and giving to the poor.

Edited 23 April, 2010 by Scudamore

[sandwichsaint]

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGH

 

You are naive... have you not listened to anything I said?

 

The people arrested were not known trouble-makers, not a single one of them. NONE of them had been involved in football disorder before... they were Saints fans who got involved as an opportunist... walking out the stadium and joined in with a large crowd.

 

If the skates had been kept in they wouldn't have even gone in the Freeborn garage and would have walked home.

 

If they had kept the skates in after the game then there would have been very minimal trouble and NONE outside the stadium.

 

You are stupidly naive... let me tell you how it is normally done by every other police force in the land ( including ours up till this game )

 

- Away fans kept in for about 30 mins ( or however long it takes till the stadium area is clear )

- Coaches are escorted out away from the main crowds.

- Foot fans are escorted as one group directly to the train station.

- Away fans are escorted all the way back on the train to stop them coming back.

 

THIS is the process every constabulary follows as a minimum, with some having 'bubble games' .

 

Why didn't ours?

 

You are naive.

 

Stu, you're always mildly entertaining but you do your case a grave diservice with your hyperbole on this one; are you still in the 70's and 80's?

 

I've seen about 10 homes and 10 aways this season and I've not seen any of the procedures that you claim that 'every constabulary follows as a minimum'.

 

We're Cat C innit? (or A, I forget which one is the hardest ...) and I've seen Millwall H and A, Leeds A, Gills H, Charlton H and A, Pompey H, etc ... hang on a minute ... we did have your 'routine' procedures at Millwall A as I should imagine does every other team, but the days of lock-ins and mass marchings-to-the-station are (thankfully) long gone.

 

Green Street-ers might wish it was different but the reality is that the 'ordinary fan' can travel H and A with minimal interference and inconvinience.

 

Doesn't alter the fact that it was a monumental (deliberate?) boob by the OB to let P fans out at the final whistle but that in itself no way absolves our brave boys for taking responsibility for their own actions and let's hope that anybody who was silly enough to be filmed rattling fences and throwing windscreen wipers gets a sensible and proportinate sentence.

 

PS Stu, why don't you bring your lads to the Gillingham game? How old are they? I'm sure they'd love it and we'd have another 2? introduced/indoctrinated into the faith; go on, you know want to.

[StuRomseySaint]

good luck to the lads,there really are some sad people on here,the skate game is one of many games since we have been at SMS where the away fans should of been kept behind and the area cleared(anyone been to millwall?) but the ob seem to want to justify their existance,it all could of been avoided,the amount of times away fans have been led by the plume knowing full well its full of our "risk element" hoping it will kick off!

 

Against Swindon not only did they march their risk past the Plume on more than one occasion, they also failed to catch up with 20 of their casuals who managed to run away from the police at the turnstiles at SMS all the way to the Plume, have a fight with Saints fans for a few minutes BEFORE the police intervened...

 

The police this season have not been preventing trouble, they have been actively encouraging it in the hope of arrests and justifying their presence.

[wagon 84]

Ah. Stu. The font of knowledge on all this hooligan related

 

As have said. Could not care less what some moron does after a game or before a game or what ever.

 

If people want to act the big man behind a fence then cry when the full force of the law comes down in them. Then good for them

 

It will not effect my day an I won't lose any sleep if they go down. Even if it means for their own utter stupidity

 

Me. I go to watch the football then go home. But if I was brain dead enough to give it te big one and act like a complete moron imj front of police with CCTV then I know I would take my punishment in the chin

 

Delldays, by the amount of posts you post, do you have a life outside this forum?

 

Wiltshire Saint, you seem very brave by some of your comments behind your PC,

will you be brave enough to discuss your comments in the pub with me on sat?

i some how doubt it. **** head!

[StuRomseySaint]

Stu, you're always mildly entertaining but you do your case a grave diservice with your hyperbole on this one; are you still in the 70's and 80's?

 

I've seen about 10 homes and 10 aways this season and I've not seen any of the procedures that you claim that 'every constabulary follows as a minimum'.

 

We're Cat C innit? (or A, I forget which one is the hardest ...) and I've seen Millwall H and A, Leeds A, Gills H, Charlton H and A, Pompey H, etc ... hang on a minute ... we did have your 'routine' procedures at Millwall A as I should imagine does every other team, but the days of lock-ins and mass marchings-to-the-station are (thankfully) long gone.

 

Green Street-ers might wish it was different but the reality is that the 'ordinary fan' can travel H and A with minimal interference and inconvinience.

 

Doesn't alter the fact that it was a monumental (deliberate?) boob by the OB to let P fans out at the final whistle but that in itself no way absolves our brave boys for taking responsibility for their own actions and let's hope that anybody who was silly enough to be filmed rattling fences and throwing windscreen wipers gets a sensible and proportinate sentence.

 

PS Stu, why don't you bring your lads to the Gillingham game? How old are they? I'm sure they'd love it and we'd have another 2? introduced/indoctrinated into the faith; go on, you know want to.

 

Errrrr... the days of lock-ins and marching to the stations are NOT long gone! Did you go to Millwall away? Are you sure? Any Saints fans not in colours were greeted by at least 50 met police at Waterloo, held in a pub whilst the other trains come in, marched from Waterloo with a tube train cleared for them, escorted on to an empty overland train and into the ground.

 

Pretty much every London game Saints fans are escorted, Bristol, Yeovil, Leicester, Birmingham, Southend, Brighton, Bournemouth, Derby, Reading etc etc... you might not see it, but most games South of Birmingham the police round up Saints fans and do not allow them to walk free.

 

My kids are 9 and 11 by the way and are not allowed to go to games because they support Liverpool :cool:

[Sour Mash]

yeah ok. Ive never been in enough trouble to make it to court so my understanding is pretty good.

 

You see I know when I am doing something wrong and if I dont want to get arrested or fined I stop. Simple tac-tics that work.

 

The people going to court didnt think about there actions at the time and continued to do them in front of a couple hundred police with video camera's.

 

maybe you should point out to them the way our judicial system works as it seems they are the ones that need to read up on it.

 

Now if the procecution are going to stand there and tell the court that these mongs are here cause they shook a fence do you really think the sentance will be up to 5 years? If that really happens then I will join the army of "lads" and protest at the inijustice too.

 

For these people to be convicted of anything that deems a stretch inside the procecution will have to have evidence to prove they were doing more than shaking a fence. The police seemed pretty specific when they released pictures of who they want to speak too so I would have thought they believe they were worth getting hold of rather then a couple of idiots who thought it was a good idea to shake a fence.

 

Well stop commenting then, as you don't have a clue. It is very possible (although not definite) that someone could quite realistically get something like 12-14 months jail time for shaking a fence. That is why people are annoyed. Everyone agrees that these people should have behaved and walked away. What gets me extremely frustrated is the level of resources put into to prosecuting these people and the hugely disproportionate punishments they will be given for thier crimes, especially considered in relation to so many other things that go on in our society. The vast majority wouldn't have expected to be facing the sentences that they will get, I guess they were naive and stupid.

[Turkish]

but the ob seem to want to justify their existance,it all could of been avoided,the amount of times away fans have been led by the plume knowing full well its full of our "risk element" hoping it will kick off!

 

Spot on.

[Thedelldays]

 

Delldays, by the amount of posts you post, do you have a life outside this forum?

 

 

head!

 

Yes mate. Serve queen and coutry. Have done so all over the world. Participated in 2 wars and taken part in operations that have contributed to directly foiling terrorist plots here in the UK. And a big saints fan from afar that used to go home and away weekly untill around 1998 and happen to have a period ere in the UK and enjoy using this forum

 

 

Do you have as an exciting life?

Edited 23 April, 2010 by Thedelldays

[saintjay77]

Well stop commenting then, as you don't have a clue. It is very possible (although not definite) that someone could quite realistically get something like 12-14 months jail time for shaking a fence. That is why people are annoyed. Everyone agrees that these people should have behaved and walked away. What gets me extremely frustrated is the level of resources put into to prosecuting these people and the hugely disproportionate punishments they will be given for thier crimes, especially considered in relation to so many other things that go on in our society. The vast majority wouldn't have expected to be facing the sentences that they will get, I guess they were naive and stupid.

 

your deluded mate, but ill leave you too it. you and the other idiots can carry on your little protest at what might happen and keep believing that the other idiots in trouble are only there cause they shook a fence.

 

It would be interesting to find out what is eventually said in court but for someone to get jail time for shaking a fence would take said person to defend himself by calling the judge, procecution and everyone else in the court room ****s.

[Sour Mash]

your deluded mate, but ill leave you too it. you and the other idiots can carry on your little protest at what might happen and keep believing that the other idiots in trouble are only there cause they shook a fence.

 

It would be interesting to find out what is eventually said in court but for someone to get jail time for shaking a fence would take said person to defend himself by calling the judge, procecution and everyone else in the court room ****s.

 

You clearly struggle to read or write basic English, you illiterate fool.

[influx]

I don't think 5 years is long enough for this sort of scum. People might not think they've done a great deal wrong, but the truth of the matter is these people, if out in society, will reoffend like the habitual criminals they are. Society would be a better place if they were sent away for as long as possible. Whilst they are in prison we will also benefit by them not being able to reproduce and have kids who would undoubtedly grow up to be trouble makers themselves. With such poor role models as parents, these offspring would be the sort to cause triuble at school, intimidate elderly people and rob shops to buy money for drugs. The world will be a better place without the children of these scum polluting the planet and ruining it for the rest of us. The law breakers who are going to get sent down deserve their punishment and should just accept it like men, not start whining and crying for their mummies. If they can't handle prison then they should think carefully before breaking the law. And if they can't control their idiotic behaviour, then, returning to my origianl point, maybe it would be best for everyone involved, them, their families and society as w whole, if they just topped themselves whilst in prison.

 

haha, what a prat.

[saintjay77]

You clearly struggle to read or write basic English, you illiterate fool.

 

Sorry I didn't realise that spelling and grammar mattered so much in expressing an opinion.

 

Obviously you have seen the police report and you know exactly what has brought about the charges to these people due in court, I bow down to your superior inteligence and punctuation.

[Junction 9]

Against Swindon not only did they march their risk past the Plume on more than one occasion, they also failed to catch up with 20 of their casuals who managed to run away from the police at the turnstiles at SMS all the way to the Plume, have a fight with Saints fans for a few minutes BEFORE the police intervened...

 

The police this season have not been preventing trouble, they have been actively encouraging it in the hope of arrests and justifying their presence.

 

It seems to me Stu that if what your saying is correct then the police have changed tactics for a reason. Hooliganism has blighted football in this country for over 30 years with not a great deal changing other than cctv in the grounds.

If the long term strategy is to get those who cause trouble out of the equation then surely what the police do now is a brilliant plan from thier point of view.

As others have said on this thread, it's really not that hard to go to a game of football and come home without having been arrested or filmed commiting an offence. Pomey games or not.

[wagon 84]

Yes mate. Serve queen and coutry. Have done so all over the world. Participated in 2 wars and taken part in operations that have contributed to directly foiling terrorist plots here in the UK. And a big saints fan from afar that used to go home and away weekly untill around 1998 and happen to have a period ere in the UK and enjoy using this forum

 

 

Do you have as an exciting life?

If you say is true then i salute you sir.

but after all that, you really aint gotta clue.

[SaintSi]

They will never end up in jail, by the time 1st offence/ mitigating circumstances/ fannying around with what they're charged with gets taken into account, They will end up with a banning order, community service, suspended sentence, whatever.

 

Secondly there is no way the police accidently let both sets of fans out at the same time. I agree with Stu's theory on that one.

 

Thirdly, some skate threw a punch at me in the north car park before the game, Guess what? i got over it, i don't wish him five years in jail or some of the other suggestions on here, some of you are pathetic.

[LA77]

They will never end up in jail, by the time 1st offence/ mitigating circumstances/ fannying around with what they're charged with gets taken into account, They will end up with a banning order, community service, suspended sentence, whatever.

 

Secondly there is no way the police accidently let both sets of fans out at the same time. I agree with Stu's theory on that one.

 

Thirdly, some skate threw a punch at me in the north car park before the game, Guess what? i got over it, i don't wish him five years in jail or some of the other suggestions on here, some of you are pathetic.

 

And you deserve a salute sir if you threw one or 10 back

[NickG]

I think you might end up very surprised. I would imagine the fence shakers will get that, the stone throwers will get a couple of months inside of massive community orders and the punch throwers will get 2 years... IF the police push for custodials.

 

police have no say, and make no representation on sentences

[JRM]

police have no say, and make no representation on sentences

 

it is all part of the establishment conspriacy.

It comes from the top down, home office, courts, police.

they are all in on it.

[ringwood]

for the Yeovil incident , all pleaded guilty to violent disorder and were sentenced on 22March

 

Andrew Manell got 45 weeks imprisonment suspended for 24 months on suspended sentence consecutive, £250 costs , curfew order between the hours of 2000hrs and 0700 for 2 months, must carry out unpaid work for 250 hours, football banning order for 3years

 

Tony Gailor got 45 weeks imprisonment suspended for 24 months on suspended sentence consecutive, £250 costs , curfew order between the hours of 2000hrs and 0700 for 2 months, must carry out unpaid work for 250 hours, football banning order for 3years

 

Rikki Weeks got 45 weeks imprisonment suspended for 24 months on suspended sentence consecutive, £250 costs , curfew order between the hours of 2000hrs and 0700 for 2 months, must carry out unpaid work for 250 hours, football banning order for 3years

 

and Christopher Wilson . football banning order for 3 years intensive referral order for 12 months (this is similar to a community order in that he must comply with all conditions as set out by Probation)

 

now have the Freeborn group been charged with violent disorder if so I'd guess that the custodial sentence is unlikely

[docker-p]

Well i for one hope they get off. Bloody waste of time nicking people for having a pop at people who want to have a pop back. The worlds gone mad.

[Wiltshire Saint]

Wiltshire Saint, you seem very brave by some of your comments behind your PC,

will you be brave enough to discuss your comments in the pub with me on sat?

i some how doubt it. **** head!

 

Yes, I'll meet you. Where do you want to meet and what time? I must warn you though, when I meet you, I will duff you up.

[liebherr driver]

I don't think 5 years is long enough for this sort of scum. People might not think they've done a great deal wrong, but the truth of the matter is these people, if out in society, will reoffend like the habitual criminals they are. Society would be a better place if they were sent away for as long as possible. Whilst they are in prison we will also benefit by them not being able to reproduce and have kids who would undoubtedly grow up to be trouble makers themselves. With such poor role models as parents, these offspring would be the sort to cause triuble at school, intimidate elderly people and rob shops to buy money for drugs. The world will be a better place without the children of these scum polluting the planet and ruining it for the rest of us. The law breakers who are going to get sent down deserve their punishment and should just accept it like men, not start whining and crying for their mummies. If they can't handle prison then they should think carefully before breaking the law. And if they can't control their idiotic behaviour, then, returning to my origianl point, maybe it would be best for everyone involved, them, their families and society as w whole, if they just topped themselves whilst in prison.

 

WTF?? That has to go down in internet history as the most OTT post of all time. Are you clinically insane? With a mindset like that, I think your more dangerous than any hooligan. You make Hitler sound like a Liberal do gooder.

[Saint in Paradise]

Never take anything that Wiltshire says as being serious, he is a wind up merchant like 19C was.

[StuRomseySaint]

Yes, I'll meet you. Where do you want to meet and what time? I must warn you though, when I meet you, I will duff you up.

 

Let's swap seat numbers, I have not said anything on here I wouldn't repeat, you however are some weird internet weirdo...

 

MM 1097 Block 42 is my seat.

 

Now what's yours? Put up or shut up.

 

:-)

[wagon 84]

Yes, I'll meet you. Where do you want to meet and what time? I must warn you though, when I meet you, I will duff you up.

 

In the plume & feathers from 1pm..

& dont worry I'll soon spot you...

[liebherr driver]

Yes, I'll meet you. Where do you want to meet and what time? I must warn you though, when I meet you, I will duff you up.

 

Sounds like a threat to me, surely worthy of a 5 year sentence eh Wiltshire?

[Deppo]

A lot of sad little wannabes on this thread. Go to a boxing club or something. A lot of them were secretly grateful the police were there because they knew it couldn't properly kick off. They would have **** themselves otherwise.

[lil 1]

police have no say, and make no representation on sentences

 

you are joking arent you?

[Toomer]

The lads that are in court were daft for getting involved, but the problem stems from the fact a game like this the away fans should have been kept in the ground for about 30mins. On our last two visits to their place we were kept in the ground, will the Police please take note you ****ed up please learn from your mistake.

[Wiltshire Saint]

WTF?? That has to go down in internet history as the most OTT post of all time. Are you clinically insane? With a mindset like that, I think your more dangerous than any hooligan. You make Hitler sound like a Liberal do gooder.

 

It is PC idiots like you who have allowed this country to go to the dogs. The people involved in this riot are the lowest of the low, scum, sh*t on the shoe of society. They are violent, mindless thugs and without doubt their mindset will be passed onto to their dirty, unwashed, scruffy children.....who in turn will grow into the most ruinous elements of the underclass. As a law abiding and respectful citizen, I have no qualms in wishing ill upon these people and looking forward to the day when they are swept off our streets and into prison......I am sure I am not alone in that.

 

Let's swap seat numbers, I have not said anything on here I wouldn't repeat, you however are some weird internet weirdo...

 

MM 1097 Block 42 is my seat.

 

Now what's yours? Put up or shut up.

 

:-)

 

MM 1092 Block 42.

 

In the plume & feathers from 1pm..

& dont worry I'll soon spot you...

 

Do you think we could make it 2.30pm as I need to take some fitted wardbrobes from the spare bedroom down the tip and then I'm a little worried about getting stuck in traffic . And without wanting to be cheeky, is there any chance you could buy my drinks as I'm a bit skint at the moment (redecorating that bloody bedroom). I'll get them in next time.

[alehouseboys]

The lads that are in court were daft for getting involved, but the problem stems from the fact a game like this the away fans should have been kept in the ground for about 30mins. On our last two visits to their place we were kept in the ground, will the Police please take note you ****ed up please learn from your mistake.

 

We were not only kept in after but also kept back at Southampton train station so we didn't arrive until well into the first half so most of the skates were off the streets.

 

You can't argue with SRS, this had to be a set-up to lift a few troublesome faces but it backfired and a few heat-of-the-moment types got nabbed. Us oldies know the same happened 30 years ago when the OB wanted the notorious 'Warrens' closed down and turned a blind eye as a large Millwall mob walked unopposed through the city centre to said pub and the rest is history.

 

Bad decision by Hants Constabulary at SMS.

[NickG]

you are joking arent you?

 

no. They probably get more annoyed about sentences than public

[RedAndWhite91]

In the plume & feathers from 1pm..

& dont worry I'll soon spot you...

 

Don't get your hopes up wagon, Wiltshire won't show. He doesn't even go to games. He's a twát of the highest order.

[Thedelldays]

lol at the posturing on this thread.

 

LOL

 

 

LOL at the people taking wiltshire saint remotely seriously

[Turkish]

it is all part of the establishment conspriacy.

It comes from the top down, home office, courts, police.

they are all in on it.

 

Some might call it an establishment fit up JRM, they think they've got them.

[waggy]

it is all part of the establishment conspriacy.

It comes from the top down, home office, courts, police.

they are all in on it.

 

sounds like a job for Mulder & Scully..................

Get real, all it sounds like to me is that too many people have been watching Danny Dyer movies.

[Wiltshire Saint]

Delldays, by the amount of posts you post, do you have a life outside this forum?

 

Wiltshire Saint, you seem very brave by some of your comments behind your PC,

will you be brave enough to discuss your comments in the pub with me on sat?

i some how doubt it. **** head!

 

Yes, I'll meet you. Where do you want to meet and what time? I must warn you though, when I meet you, I will duff you up.

 

In the plume & feathers from 1pm..

& dont worry I'll soon spot you...

 

Do you think we could make it 2.30pm as I need to take some fitted wardbrobes from the spare bedroom down the tip and then I'm a little worried about getting stuck in traffic.

 

I didn't see you there. What happened? I was a bit late because someone threw a black rubbish bag (with domestic waste) in the wood only bin at the tip and I had to have a "chat" with him. So either you didn't show at all or I must have missed you after my delay. I am about next Saturday and could probably see you there about 6 for 6.30?

 

Don't get your hopes up wagon, Wiltshire won't show. He doesn't even go to games. He's a twát of the highest order.

 

Just as rude as your "special" little c*nt of a brother I see. Your mouth is too big and you should put up or shut up. Will you be brave enough to discuss your comments in the pub with me on sat?

[liebherr driver]

I didn't see you there. What happened? I was a bit late because someone threw a black rubbish bag (with domestic waste) in the wood only bin at the tip and I had to have a "chat" with him. So either you didn't show at all or I must have missed you after my delay. I am about next Saturday and could probably see you there about 6 for 6.30?

 

 

 

Just as rude as your "special" little c*nt of a brother I see. Your mouth is too big and you should put up or shut up. Will you be brave enough to discuss your comments in the pub with me on sat?

 

Im guessing that you get turned on by this attention you weirdo, but just so you know, PM me to straighten out this misunderstanding

[Turkish]

The amount of Pious, self righteous ****s on here never ceases to amaze me. It was a local derby, tensions run high and people do things they wouldn't normally do. At the end of the day the OB are there to prevent disorder and at no other derby anywhere else in the country would they let home and away fans out together. The OB ****ed up or let it happen, end of, they know it and now they want to prove a point by ****ing over some soft targets. You can go anywhere in the world, Roma v Lazio, Boca Juniors v river Plate, Inter v AC, Barc v Real Mardrid, Ajax v Feyenoord, i could go on and you'll get both sets of fans hating each other and wanting a row, thats football, its tribal, is passionate and at times is hostile and violent, its might not be right but that is how it is and that is what makes football the worlds greatest game. Say all you like about people having the choice to do what they want and take responsibilty for their actions etc and yes they do, but if any of you self rigteous cu*ts slating have lot have ever been to a football match and not shown any amount of passion, vitrol or aggression towards the away fans, players or referee especially in a game that means alot, then you are not a proper football fan. Yes the ones that throw things, or did what ever they did may have overstepped the mark, but did they do any worse than you or I wanted to do that day? did they ****, i think some people need to get off their high horse and see the legal system for what it is, a ****ing disgrace that is more interested in headline news than catching real criminals, lets face it, if we hadn't had anyone nicked for events on the 13th of Feb, if there had been no TV programme, echo headlines on no less thean 5 occasions would we still be talking about it? Of course we ****ing wouldn't, thats how much in the public interest this whole farcial affair is, iy sells papers, it makes good TV, it get people talking and it its gets the OB slapping themselves on the back with what a good job they are doing, meanwhile, nonces are roaming the streets, people are being stabbed every weekend and if you haven't been burgeled then you are one of the lucky ones, the legal system in this country is a ****ing joke.

Edited 25 April, 2010 by Turkish

[Deppo]

Im guessing that you get turned on by this attention you weirdo, but just so you know, PM me to straighten out this misunderstanding

 

Neither of you can PM, you retard.

[Saint in Paradise]

Wiltshire is acting just like a couple of other posters did a few years ago in so much as those two were

going to have a fight. If I remember correctly though nothing happened It was all p and wind

 

I think Essruu was one of them ???

[doddisalegend]

The amount of Pious, self righteous ****s on here never ceases to amaze me. It was a local derby, tensions run high and people do things they wouldn't normally do. At the end of the day the OB are there to prevent disorder and at no other derby anywhere else in the country would they let home and away fans out together. The OB ****ed up or let it happen, end of, they know it and now they want to prove a point by ****ing over some soft targets. You can go anywhere in the world, Roma v Lazio, Boca Juniors v river Plate, Inter v AC, Barc v Real Mardrid, Ajax v Feyenoord, i could go on and you'll get both sets of fans hating each other and wanting a row, thats football, its tribal, is passionate and at times is hostile and violent, its might not be right but that is how it is and that is what makes football the worlds greatest game. Say all you like about people having the choice to do what they want and take responsibilty for their actions etc and yes they do, but if any of you self rigteous cu*ts slating have lot have ever been to a football match and not shown any amount of passion, vitrol or aggression towards the away fans, players or referee especially in a game that means alot, then you are not a proper football fan. Yes the ones that throw things, or did what ever they did may have overstepped the mark, but did they do any worse than you or I wanted to do that day? did they ****, i think some people need to get off their high horse and see the legal system for what it is, a ****ing disgrace that is more interested in headline news than catching real criminals, lets face it, if we hadn't had anyone nicked for events on the 13th of Feb, if there had been no TV programme, echo headlines on no less thean 5 occasions would we still be talking about it? Of course we ****ing wouldn't, thats how much in the public interest this whole farcial affair is, iy sells papers, it makes good TV, it get people talking and it its gets the OB slapping themselves on the back with what a good job they are doing, meanwhile, nonces are roaming the streets, people are being stabbed every weekend and if you haven't been burgeled then you are one of the lucky ones, the legal system in this country is a ****ing joke.

 

My god you actually believe all that. Biggest pile of crock I've ever read. There's a difference between showing passion and a bit of banter and trying to attack someone over a game of football. Of couse if people didn't think violence at football matches was acceptable the police wouldn't be required and would have more resources and time to catch sex offenders and burglers. How many other criminals were getting away with it on that day becuase all those police we're required to watch over a bunch of grown men who couldn't be trusted not to have a ruck over a game of football. It's quite clear several posters feel a punch up at football is acceptable or even cool fine that's your right. Personally it doesn't turn me on and I can't have an sympathy for those involved if that makes me a self rightous **** I'll live with it.

[Norm]

I didn't say they should be given war medals.

 

A Blue Peter badge maybe?

 

 

 

Perhaps a 'I'm a stupid little boy and need to grow up' badge?

 

Build more prisons. Any political party have that in their manifesto?

[Big John]

Against Swindon not only did they march their risk past the Plume on more than one occasion, they also failed to catch up with 20 of their casuals who managed to run away from the police at the turnstiles at SMS all the way to the Plume, have a fight with Saints fans for a few minutes BEFORE the police intervened...

 

The police this season have not been preventing trouble, they have been actively encouraging it in the hope of arrests and justifying their presence.

 

 

You are without a shadow of doubt an intelligent man, but alas you are also extremly stupid with it, a dangerous but thankfully a rare combination in todays society.

[Thedelldays]

A lot of sad little wannabes on this thread. Go to a boxing club or something. A lot of them were secretly grateful the police were there because they knew it couldn't properly kick off. They would have **** themselves otherwise.

no fence here...

 

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Wiltshire is acting just like a couple of other posters did a few years ago in so much as those two were

going to have a fight. If I remember correctly though nothing happened It was all p and wind

 

I think Essruu was one of them ???

 

Essruu turned up, he was the one wearing Apple boxing gloves and shorts!

[Big John]

The amount of Pious, self righteous ****s on here never ceases to amaze me. It was a local derby, tensions run high and people do things they wouldn't normally do. At the end of the day the OB are there to prevent disorder and at no other derby anywhere else in the country would they let home and away fans out together. The OB ****ed up or let it happen, end of, they know it and now they want to prove a point by ****ing over some soft targets. You can go anywhere in the world, Roma v Lazio, Boca Juniors v river Plate, Inter v AC, Barc v Real Mardrid, Ajax v Feyenoord, i could go on and you'll get both sets of fans hating each other and wanting a row, thats football, its tribal, is passionate and at times is hostile and violent, its might not be right but that is how it is and that is what makes football the worlds greatest game. Say all you like about people having the choice to do what they want and take responsibilty for their actions etc and yes they do, but if any of you self rigteous cu*ts slating have lot have ever been to a football match and not shown any amount of passion, vitrol or aggression towards the away fans, players or referee especially in a game that means alot, then you are not a proper football fan. Yes the ones that throw things, or did what ever they did may have overstepped the mark, but did they do any worse than you or I wanted to do that day? did they ****, i think some people need to get off their high horse and see the legal system for what it is, a ****ing disgrace that is more interested in headline news than catching real criminals, lets face it, if we hadn't had anyone nicked for events on the 13th of Feb, if there had been no TV programme, echo headlines on no less thean 5 occasions would we still be talking about it? Of course we ****ing wouldn't, thats how much in the public interest this whole farcial affair is, iy sells papers, it makes good TV, it get people talking and it its gets the OB slapping themselves on the back with what a good job they are doing, meanwhile, nonces are roaming the streets, people are being stabbed every weekend and if you haven't been burgeled then you are one of the lucky ones, the legal system in this country is a ****ing joke.

 

All the fault of the police of course..

:confused:

 

My neighbour got burgled only last week, he caught the girl who did it and very sensibly waited for the local PCSO to turn up, whacked the officer over the head with:confused: a 9 iron and buried the body under his patio. He won't be free to roam the streets anymore encouraging people to break the law and hopefully this will reduce the number of break-ins in my area.

 

In fact I reckon that with LESS police officers on our streets the crime figures will go down and the prisons will have more room for real crims like those scary fraudsters and people who don't pay their taxis.

 

Lees coppers = less crime?