Saint Johnno Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Sfc is included in the list of creditors for 35k as published today.
trousers Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 You may want to get the mods to add a k onto the end of the £35 in the title....although there is probably more amusement factor in leaving it be....
Wurzel Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Fresh Air. Every weekend when we are playing away the Bursledon windmill is switched on, blowing clean fresh sweet smelling air eastwards down the M27. It's the only way they can gt any away fans to turn up at their place.
jam Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Sfc is included in the list of creditors for 35k as published today. FA Cup game, perchance?
Red And White Barmy Army Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 could be anything. martin cranie installments still owed maybe.
Saint Johnno Posted 21 April, 2010 Author Posted 21 April, 2010 http://www.uhy-uk.com/media/news/PFC%20-%20Report%20to%20creditors%20Adobe%207.pdf
Stoozer Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I'm guessing FA Cup game. It appears they owe King Edward's School 40 odd K too
Arizona Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Cranie Redknapp FA Cup Match Using our training facilities Could be loads of things. Quite funny though.
krissyboy31 Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Why would they owe us anything for the FA Cup game? They got 40% of the net gate receipts. A much larger value than the gross receipts of the 4,000 they sold.
trousers Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Why would they owe us anything for the FA Cup game? They got 40% of the net gate receipts. A much larger value than the gross receipts of the 4,000 they sold. Assuming the FA passed it on....?
Wes Tender Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Airfreshner & disinfectant! You're right. It's cleaning costs from that section of the Northam occupied by their Neanderthals who smeared faeces and peed all over the seats. Mind you, that could have been because they were sh*tting themselves when we had dominance of 70% of the game and then p*ssing themselves laughing with relief when they managed finally to overcome us.
alpine_saint Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Does this mean they need us to agree to the CVA ? Oh deary deary me....
Saintmike666 Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Does this mean they need us to agree to the CVA ? Oh deary deary me.... PLEEEASE let that be right! Lol!
Tac-tics Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I am 99% sure, if we are a footballing creditor we can reject their cva offer. OMFG = stalk on!
Wes Tender Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I am 99% sure, if we are a footballing creditor we can reject their cva offer. OMFG = stalk on! I thought that if we were a footballing creditor, they would have to pay us in full and that it was only if we were a unsecured creditor that we could vote against the CVA. Or have I got that wrong?
alpine_saint Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I thought that if we were a footballing creditor, they would have to pay us in full and that it was only if we were a unsecured creditor that we could vote against the CVA. Or have I got that wrong? Ruin our wet dream, whydonchya ?
Tac-tics Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I think Saints can still reject any payement plan etc if they can't make a full payement.
niceandfriendly Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Why would they owe us anything for the FA Cup game? They got 40% of the net gate receipts. A much larger value than the gross receipts of the 4,000 they sold. I'm pretty sure we gave them tickets for the cup game without charging them.
Tac-tics Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Cranie, Redknapp, David Coles. Could be anything.
krissyboy31 Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I thought that if we were a footballing creditor, they would have to pay us in full and that it was only if we were a unsecured creditor that we could vote against the CVA. Or have I got that wrong? [i believe] In the real world we would be an unsecured creditor and have a vote on the CVA but because it is a footballing debt we are required, by PL/FA/FL rules, to receive 100 pence in the pound, therefore no need to vote either way.
OldNick Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I'm pretty sure we gave them tickets for the cup game without charging them.No , without charging them upfront. The money would go from both clubs to the FA , which then goes back to the clubs after being split up and they have taken their %
Flyer Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I am 99% sure, if we are a footballing creditor we can reject their cva offer. OMFG = stalk on! No, it has to be paid in full and divide £120m by 35k and youd have the percentage of the vote Saints has.
Matthew Le God Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I think this is more intriguing if true... I may be wrong here but the 70 page document released today says Pompey owe £2m to a company called Peco AG. Nothing wrong with that you might think... until you have a look at that company and it "seems" Peco AG was liquidated 11 years ago!!! How can you have a debt with a nonexistent company? Are there any other nonexistent debts in the document increasing the debt so it can pass a CVA? http://www.moneyhouse.ch/u/peco_ag_CH-400.3.005.256-4.htm Trying to fiddle the figures Mr Andronikou? Like when you did this... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/portsmouth/article7069905.ece
saintjay77 Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 I think this is more intriguing if true... I may be wrong here but the 70 page document released today says Pompey owe £2m to a company called Peco AG. Nothing wrong with that you might think... until you have a look at that company and it "seems" Peco AG was liquidated 11 years ago!!! How can you have a debt with a nonexistent company? Are there any other nonexistent debts in the document increasing the debt so it can pass a CVA? http://www.moneyhouse.ch/u/peco_ag_CH-400.3.005.256-4.htm Trying to fiddle the figures Mr Andronikou? Like when you did this... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/portsmouth/article7069905.ece I thought it was quite funny on SSN a little while ago when they had a statement from a former Poopy advisor Whatshisface Agouzy, the guy who was done in Iraq for fraud or somit saying the 1 million Poopy owe Spuds was for an agreement that was never made when Kaboul was sold. The jist I got was the paperwork had been done about the 1 mil then he went to stoke so they agreed Spuds would pay 1 mill less than agreed for Kaboul. Its the kind of finacial genious that my 6 year old when trying to play monopoly. lol The statement was followed by someone else stating that the level of debt should lead the authoritys to a serious fraud investigation. Todays events have made the realisation of another year in League 1 seem like a walk in the park.
Legod Third Coming Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Does this mean they need us to agree to the CVA ? Oh deary deary me.... Oh Alpine of all the things you have suggested, this gets my vote!!! LMAO
dune Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 What would **** the Pompey scum off more is if Nicola Cortese went on SSN and said Southampton will waive the money owed because it's just loose change to us.
OldNick Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 What would **** the Pompey scum off more is if Nicola Cortese went on SSN and said Southampton will waive the money owed because it's just loose change to us.it p###m off, if they owe it, get it.
alpine_saint Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 What would **** the Pompey scum off more is if Nicola Cortese went on SSN and said Southampton will waive the money owed because it's just loose change to us. hehehehehe. Just like when we gave the Cup match tickets. I like the cut of your jib, sir..
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Amazing. Chester City were kicked out of the Conference because they owed their local rivals Wrexham money from ticket sales. P*mpey owe us £35k and they're still allowed to compete in the FA Cup.
martel Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Does this mean they need us to agree to the CVA ? Oh deary deary me.... I was just thinking "how sorry, how sad, never mind".
beatlesaint Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Quite amusing that the guy from their supporters club was on Sky Sports News a while ago and asked where the additional £50 million had come from as they were told it was a debt of £70 million originally !! Ummm, it hasnt come from anywhere mate, it was probably always there but Storrie, Jacobs and a selection of different owners didnt like to say what the true amount was !! Jeez...
Joneth Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 35k means virtually nothing to either club. Would be really quite funny if we just turned round and said, 'forget about it, thats what friends are for. Love thy neighbour an all that'. I just dont get how they end up owing £600 to a scout club Guernsey?
Arizona Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Amazing. Chester City were kicked out of the Conference because they owed their local rivals Wrexham money from ticket sales. P*mpey owe us £35k and they're still allowed to compete in the FA Cup. Ssssssssshhhhhhh!!! We're not allowed to upset the Premier League clubs dontcha know. Next season though, that's different. The FL have their arses bent over the table.
Rogerfryisalegend Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 35k means virtually nothing to either club. Would be really quite funny if we just turned round and said, 'forget about it, thats what friends are for. Love thy neighbour an all that'. I just dont get how they end up owing £600 to a scout club Guernsey?Maybe Graham Rix owed the kids some money.
oxfordshire_saint Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Did they have to pay for part of the policing?
stardustonmyfeet Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Is it possible they are exaggerating the debt to make it appear that HMRC are owed less percentage-wise than they actually are?
itchen Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 Possibly. I think another club we can all think of (play in Yorkshire, white shirts, t*t for a chairman) were suspected of doing this. But because nobody knew for sure whether the creditors and the owners were linked in some way - because nobody knew who either were -they somehow got away with forcing through a CVA that left smaller creditors and, I think, you and me as taxpayers well out of pocket. I could be wrong though.
AussieDog Posted 21 April, 2010 Posted 21 April, 2010 AS the Football league is actually a different organisation from the Premier League, will they actually be willing to allow a club in administration to enter the Championship?? ... or Div 1 or Div 2 for that matter! Technically it's a different scenario from our situation as we were actually members of the FL at the time.....
Pilchards Posted 22 April, 2010 Posted 22 April, 2010 It could be for the damages they left us from the cup match? Stickers all over the concourses, seats and toilets, plus one of the toilets was set alight. Skate ****s.
SaintRobbie Posted 22 April, 2010 Posted 22 April, 2010 Pompey's our feeder club... let's sweep for their better players in the summer and confirm their relegation to the CCC or League 1 thereafter! Makes sense if Mr Liebherr is willing!
DT Posted 22 April, 2010 Posted 22 April, 2010 This is the template for Spurs a couple of years down the line. Anyone spot the link?
StuRomseySaint Posted 22 April, 2010 Posted 22 April, 2010 Quite amusing that the guy from their supporters club was on Sky Sports News a while ago and asked where the additional £50 million had come from as they were told it was a debt of £70 million originally !! Ummm, it hasnt come from anywhere mate, it was probably always there but Storrie, Jacobs and a selection of different owners didnt like to say what the true amount was !! Jeez... No.... the debt managed to 'grow' just enough to ensure that HMRC only had 24% say on the CVA board, so couldn't block it and cost P*mpey more points.
OldNick Posted 22 April, 2010 Posted 22 April, 2010 It could be for the damages they left us from the cup match? Stickers all over the concourses, seats and toilets, plus one of the toilets was set alight. Skate ****s.but they are the best fans in the world
DT Posted 22 April, 2010 Posted 22 April, 2010 Portsmouth's £119m list of debts includes £40 owed to Pukka Pies and 20p to Qatar Airways. Couldn't make it up.
Window Cleaner Posted 22 April, 2010 Posted 22 April, 2010 Do they owe us 35000£ or the 350000£ that I've seen posted elsewhere? Makes a whole lot of difference as to what it may be for If it's 350K£ it's no doubt player transfer related
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