bungle Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Tory 36% Lib Dem 35% Labour 24% Astonishing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 you know full well it wont work out like that come the big day it will be labour or more than likely the tories that will get the most votes with the lib dems a distant 3rd like usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Tory 36% Lib Dem 35% Labour 24% Astonishing! I would not be sad to see Labour pushed to third.Thsi will send tremors through both camps , especially number 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pav Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 you know full well it wont work out like that come the big day would be very nice if it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 great "roll on a hung parliament" hoping it stops the pathetic tories and labour party from ever running this country again. power to the people:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 great "roll on a hung parliament" hoping it stops the pathetic tories and labour party from ever running this country again. power to the people:Dwere you around the last time this happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Problem is the electrol system is geared towards Labour. With boundary changes it is more likely that they will get more votes as the boundary changes have taken place in areas which are traditional labour strongholds. Even if the Tories poll more votes, Labour can still win more seats and remain in power. Until the system changes thats the way it is. And if you compare all the polls some had Brown coming out on top last night where as most went for Clegg. OOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Today's YouGov poll has Con 37%, Lab 31%, LD 22% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Tory 36% Lib Dem 35% Labour 24% Astonishing! Yes, Astonishing but there's a caveat to it that you forgot to mention. ComRes were only polling people who watched the first debate right after the debate finished. I expect the YouGov daily tracker to move a little towards the LibDems, but only 3 or 4 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Problem is the electrol system is geared towards Labour. With boundary changes it is more likely that they will get more votes as the boundary changes have taken place in areas which are traditional labour strongholds. Even if the Tories poll more votes, Labour can still win more seats and remain in power. Until the system changes thats the way it is. Sorry that's rubbish, the boundary change for this election covers England, Wales and Northern Ireland (in Scotland the boundaries changed in 2005 with the reduction in the number of Scottish MPs from 72 to 59) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Poll of Polls yesterday.... Con = 39% Lab = 32% Lib = 20% Other = 9% Poll of Polls Today Con = 37% Lab = 31% Lib = 21% Other = 11% There is definately movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Sorry that's rubbish, the boundary change for this election covers England, Wales and Northern Ireland (in Scotland the boundaries changed in 2005 with the reduction in the number of Scottish MPs from 72 to 59) Sorry. Got myself confused there for a min. Here is why the system is biased towards Labour - knew I'd read something about it recently! http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7581031/General-Election-2010-How-electoral-system-favours-Labour.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 You will always get "freak" polls such as the one Bungle conveniently highlighted. I prefer to look at the bigger picture. http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 It's not really a freak, especially as Bungle's reported the unweighted poll which is more favourable to the Lib Dems. The correct version of that same poll is Con 35% Lab 28% LD 24%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Poll of Polls yesterday.... Con = 39% Lab = 32% Lib = 20% Other = 9% Poll of Polls Today Con = 37% Lab = 31% Lib = 21% Other = 11% There is definately movement. Daft as it may seem I know a few Labour voters who are going Green as they have quite a left wing manifesto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 That was of people who watched the debate... When official weighting is added in... Conservatives: 35% Labour: 28% Lib Dems: 24% This means a 3 or 4% boost for the Lib Dems due to the debate which is much more realistic. What it means in a wider context is that it will be much harder for the conservatives to get in. This is because many of the seats they need to win are against the Lib Dems, particularly in the South West, if the Lib Dems poll this, they can expect to keep those seats quite comfortably as well as making a few a gains. Really, the system stinks because despite the fact Labour are only 4% ahead, they will still get significantly more seats because of the way the seats are laid out. Lib Dem support is sadly too thinly spread, either way we shall see come May the 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Daft as it may seem I know a few Labour voters who are going Green as they have quite a left wing manifesto. +1, I'm one of them: I had a very pleasant chat with the Green candidate here the other day when he was on the campaign trail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 17 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 17 April, 2010 Today's YouGov poll: Tory 33% Labour 24% Lib Dem 30% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 April, 2010 Share Posted 17 April, 2010 Usually, those you vote lib dem harp on about others who vote Tory, UKIP BNP etc without actually reading their manifestos. Not one word from them since the end of the debate when cleft became popular after a few sound bites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 17 April, 2010 Share Posted 17 April, 2010 Today's YouGov poll: Tory 33% Labour 24% Lib Dem 30% ROFL You can dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 April, 2010 Share Posted 17 April, 2010 Usually, those you vote lib dem harp on about others who vote Tory, UKIP BNP etc without actually reading their manifestos. Not one word from them since the end of the debate when cleft became popular after a few sound bites You have to remember that there is a large swathe of voters who will vote for the person and not the policies. My wife was saying that at work the majority of the women were now going to vote Liberal because of Clegg. It's these floating voters that will decide the outcome. The two remaining debates are really going to heap the pressure on Cameron to turn this around and I always thought him the most media savvy of them all, a triumph of style over substance and now I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 17 April, 2010 Share Posted 17 April, 2010 ROFL You can dream. You're like Huddersfield dune (well, up until last night anyway); running scared!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 April, 2010 Share Posted 17 April, 2010 I always thought him the most media savvy of them all, a triumph of style over substance and now I'm not so sure. now it seems OK to vote for someone else for no other reason than sound bites.. cameron has been bashed for having "style" over substance now it seeems OK for clegg to be the same.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 17 April, 2010 Share Posted 17 April, 2010 so how exactly does the system work?? say there are 100 seats, someone needs 51 to get a majority, right? so if Labour wins 51 seats, they're in. But their 51 seats could only have (for example) 1 vote per seat, so they get in with 51 votes as opposed to (potentially) milions of people voting for the other parties?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeovil Saint Posted 17 April, 2010 Share Posted 17 April, 2010 Today's YouGov poll: Tory 33% Labour 24% Lib Dem 30% Bungle, I really don't mind you rooting for the Lib Dems, but please remember CP Scott's famous quote "Comment is free, but facts are sacred." You seem to often quote poll results that are misleading and/or downright inaccurate. The real figures are Tory 33% Labour 28% Lib Dem 30% They are good figures for the Lib Dems, I don't see why you wanted to make the Labour position look worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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