sadoldgit Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 It seems they are to be increased and extended from 2 years to 4 years. Seems a bit odd to me and not helpful to CCC teams trying to get promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I think when this was raised a while ago, someone said even if the Premier League clubs agreed to it, which they were always going to do, it still has to be accepted by the Football League. Not sure whether this would be the board or the Championship clubs but if this is correct perhaps it may still not be passed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Confirmed on Sky Sports website Why on earth would the football league agree to a measure that disadvantages c.95% of its members? I assume it will now be called the trampoline payment rather than parachute? Boing boing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Is this more money for the relegated clubs or is it the same amount of money but paid out over 4 years rather than 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Is this more money for the relegated clubs or is it the same amount of money but paid out over 4 years rather than 2? Sky sports says "clubs will receive more money" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keith Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Is this more money for the relegated clubs or is it the same amount of money but paid out over 4 years rather than 2? it was rumoured to be £50m over 4 years, instead of the current £30-£35m over 2 would have thought that distorts the championship even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 it was rumoured to be £50m over 4 years, instead of the current £30-£35m over 2 would have thought that distorts the championship even more It was reported that its £48m over 4 years - £16m for two years then £8m for two years. Heard an interview with Ray Ranson (Cov City Chairman) yesterday who used Southampton as an example of a club struggling having come down from the PL. He therefore supported the idea. This sets a worrying precedent for the other Championship chairman who may support it in the hope of getting up for one season. Would expect most of the L1 & L2 chairmen to vote against. Expected nothing else from the PL though, the pigs at the trough just continue to feed themselves even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Subject to ratification at a meeting in June, I believe. Almost all the Fotball League would be against it, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Subject to ratification at a meeting in June, I believe. Almost all the Fotball League would be against it, surely? I dont know. 3 teams come down, they bring with them the promise of 4 years worth of cash to spend in the CC and League 1 (usually) - so from the start some of that money is benefiting other League teams Secondly, and someone please feel free to correct me if Im wrong, but if a team goes up before the scheduled end of their parachute payments, the excess is wrapped up and given to the FL to distribute. So, assuming after 2 years all 3 of the relegated teams have gone back up, there there is (3x2) years worth of cash for the FL.... each season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I wonder if there are any strings attached, eg. the money must not be spent on settling old debts accumulated whilst the team was in the PL. Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Isn't this for clubs relegated from season 2010/11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Isn't this for clubs relegated from season 2010/11? Yeah it wouldn't apply to pompey from what I understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Yeah it wouldn't apply to pompey from what I understand. I'm sure our fishy friends will find a way to make it happen. Cheats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Secondly, and someone please feel free to correct me if Im wrong, but if a team goes up before the scheduled end of their parachute payments, the excess is wrapped up and given to the FL to distribute. So, assuming after 2 years all 3 of the relegated teams have gone back up, there there is (3x2) years worth of cash for the FL.... each season. This is my understanding. The Blackpool fans in my office are already working out how to spend their share of Newcastle's 2nd payment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Columb Saint Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I think this is the thin edge of the wedge, teams that are relegated will have an unfair advantage on existing teams in the championship so will in no doubt bounce back to the premiership. So over a couple of years after the same teams bounce backwards and forwards between leagues how long before the premiership say whats the point of relegation and it becomes a closed shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I think this is the thin edge of the wedge, teams that are relegated will have an unfair advantage on existing teams in the championship so will in no doubt bounce back to the premiership. So over a couple of years after the same teams bounce backwards and forwards between leagues how long before the premiership say whats the point of relegation and it becomes a closed shop. Don't think they would, as a competition it would have so much less interest without the relegation battles and would impact on TV viewing figures. Less people watching = less money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I dont know. 3 teams come down, they bring with them the promise of 4 years worth of cash to spend in the CC and League 1 (usually) - so from the start some of that money is benefiting other League teams Secondly, and someone please feel free to correct me if Im wrong, but if a team goes up before the scheduled end of their parachute payments, the excess is wrapped up and given to the FL to distribute. So, assuming after 2 years all 3 of the relegated teams have gone back up, there there is (3x2) years worth of cash for the FL.... each season. You're not wrong. Didn't Birmingam go straight back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 Arse about face. they say it's to bridge the financial gap between Prem and CCC. Why not give all clubs less money when in the Prem and distribute any leftovers to lower leagues and grass roots to develop the game. All this will do is encourage teams like the Skates to spunk it all up the wall knowing they have 4 years to sort it out if they go down. It just shoves the problem two years further down the line unless you get back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 16 April, 2010 Share Posted 16 April, 2010 I think the FL should stand up and be counted. To level the playing field they could deduct points for prem teams joining it with a cash advantage! Or they could just say we dont want you! Apart from the Prem Top 6 the Championship has the opportunity to have some 'big' clubs in it, or at least as big as the remainder of the Prem. When there is a European League breakaway then we have 2 similar leagues. Oh well just feeling miffed and a bit contentious! Discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 18 April, 2010 Share Posted 18 April, 2010 It should be decresead if anything. It's almost like giving a club some sort of reward for being relegated. Sorry, but you should have played better. If you can't sustain your premiership wage bill after relegation then sell the players and buy CCC standard ones that you can afford to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 18 April, 2010 Share Posted 18 April, 2010 The extra cash should just be handed out evenly to all FL clubs, could go some way to stopping smaller teams going into admin or out of business. A few hundred grand goes a long way for a struggling league 2 club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 April, 2010 The way the money is divided up in football nowdays sux big time. It is about to get even more unfair if this measure goes through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 19 April, 2010 Share Posted 19 April, 2010 The way the money is divided up in football nowdays sux big time. It is about to get even more unfair if this measure goes through. Anyone who doesn't see this as part of the march towards Premier A and Premier B is blind. Within 7 years the 20 premier league clubs and 16 CCC clubs receiuving some form of parachute payment break way to be PLA and PLB, two leagues of 18 which is what UEFA want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 19 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 19 April, 2010 Anyone who doesn't see this as part of the march towards Premier A and Premier B is blind. Within 7 years the 20 premier league clubs and 16 CCC clubs receiuving some form of parachute payment break way to be PLA and PLB, two leagues of 18 which is what UEFA want. I think you are right. The only other alternative might be a break away European league (volcanos permitting) leaving behind a watered down Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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