Leaders debate

[Colinjb]

Cameron is flagging. Most dissapointing.

[Thedelldays]

Cheaper ways to nuke people than Trident.

how..do you reckon..?

 

pay the yanks..

[View From The Top]

how..do you reckon..?

 

pay the yanks..

 

Air delivery platforms. Way cheaper than the bombers.

 

Wouldn't trust the yanks regarding blue on blue.

[Thedelldays]

Air delivery platforms. Way cheaper than the bombers.

but not as effective...

 

anyway. that is another debate

[Arizona]

Wish they would all stop refering to our "brave men and women" in Afghanistan. We all know they are brave, it just sounds very patronising.

[Colinjb]

Thankyou DC for standing up for national defense. Best thing he has said all night.

[SO16_Saint]

Cameron just looks p*ssed off, like he's missing quiz night down The Duck

[Golden Balls]

Camron is really struggling here. Brilliant!

[Thedelldays]

Wish they would all stop refering to our "brave men and women" in Afghanistan. We all know they are brave, it just sounds very patronising.

it is...forces members are not really underpaid..simple as that

[Thedelldays]

Camron is really struggling here. Brilliant!

I dont think he is..

 

I guess we all go into this wanting certain outcomes

[SO16_Saint]

Have been impressed with browns note taking

[doubleonothing]

Keep the trident program going for longer with the vanguard class. The Yanks are doing this with their's. They reckon it would save around 2-3 billion and allow a proper reconsideration.

[SO16_Saint]

I dont think he is..

 

I guess we all go into this wanting certain outcomes

 

Agree.

 

It's impossible to remove all bias. You pick up on 'your mans' good points and highlight the negatives of others

[doubleonothing]

Have been impressed with browns note taking

 

And dissapointed to see Cameron is left handed!!!

 

OOO

[Colinjb]

I dont think he is..

 

I guess we all go into this wanting certain outcomes

 

It can be like a football match at times, only seeing what would be best for your team.

[Thedelldays]

Keep the trident program going for longer with the vanguard class. The Yanks are doing this with their's. They reckon it would save around 2-3 billion and allow a proper reconsideration.

they run their SM service very differently to ours..which is the problem

[SO16_Saint]

Cameron said helicopters 6 times in 15 words

[Golden Balls]

Cameron said helicopters 6 times in 15 words

 

How many times has Clegg said Sheffield?

[Chin Strain]

How many times has Clegg said Sheffield?

 

He doesn't sound like your average Sheffield resident....

[SO16_Saint]

 

He doesn't sound like your average Sheffield resident....

 

I thought he was from around here somewhere??

[Chin Strain]

I thought he was from around here somewhere??

Chalfont St Giles according to Wiki.

[landford.saint]

POLITICS

 

POLY means 'many'.

TICS are Bloodsuckers.

 

Whichever lot gets in they will have their noses deep in the trough.

[Joesaint]

If I were to rank how they performed I'd go;

 

Camron - spoke sence and honest

Clegg - close second, but only because he tryed to pretend its all labour and tory and he's the holy grail

Brown - distant third, repeated loads and would not be happy if he were PM again. He would not drop the NI rubbish, NI should def not go up but he brings it up all the time.

[SO16_Saint]

If I were to rank how they performed I'd go;

 

Camron - spoke sence and honest

Clegg - close second, but only because he tryed to pretend its all labour and tory and he's the holy grail

Brown - distant third, repeated loads and would not be happy if he were PM again. He would not drop the NI rubbish, NI should def not go up but he brings it up all the time.

 

Mustve watched a different show, or more likely same show with different biases

[Colinjb]

My rank

 

Cameron/Brown =1st. Brown played the figures well as you would expect for the ex chancellor and PM, but I believe far more in Cameron and his ideas/proposals. The next few debates will be fascinating.

 

Clegg, 3rd. By no means a fool, made many good points but just too shallow compared to the other two.

[Joesaint]

Mustve watched a different show, or more likely same show with different biases

 

Fair point, I've never liked Labour and never ever will.

 

Well spotted

[benjii]

Clegg has been by far the best "performer" IMO (and I don't mean that in a derogatory way).

[MongoNeil]

If I were to rank how they performed I'd go;

 

Camron - spoke sence and honest

Clegg - close second, but only because he tryed to pretend its all labour and tory and he's the holy grail

Brown - distant third, repeated loads and would not be happy if he were PM again. He would not drop the NI rubbish, NI should def not go up but he brings it up all the time.

 

Wow, couldn't have seen it more differently. Cameron did himself no favours at all my eyes and was miles behind the other two. Quite impressed with Brown and I've never voted Labour in my life.

[doubleonothing]

He we go again with mentioning of "The 2 old parties"

 

You're not in the running mate. At least Ming Cambell was to senile to realise and Charlie to p*ssed to notice!

 

OOO

[Chin Strain]

Clegg has been by far the best "performer" IMO (and I don't mean that in a derogatory way).

 

I thought he was going to stick one on Brown if he'd have said 'Nick agrees with me' once more.

[doubleonothing]

Brown trying to be down with the kids there

 

"Britains got talent and X-Factor"

 

OOO

[Arizona]

I find both Clegg and Cameron to be fairly likeable, even if their policies are fairly far apart. Brown just depresses me and it's hard to believe anything he says when he's made such a monumental **** up of his time so far.

 

P.S. The new poll is now open.

[doubleonothing]

Think Cameron's best bit was his summing up.

 

OOO

[Colinjb]

Closing statements

 

Lib Dems - Weak, same old 'pick someone else' argument. Pathetic really.

 

Labour - Needless pop culture references, Focusing on keeping money in economy to ensure recovery and not compromise the public sectors. Attacking Tories over not ensuring public sector funding.

 

Tories - Suggests debate has just tried to scaremonger the thought of a Tory governement, attacks labour ideas of taxing jobs and continuing innefficiencies in consistent methods. Says will back up those who work hard. 'We are in this together.'

[View From The Top]

Brown did way better than I expected and Cameron actually did worse than I expected.

 

My Doris, after that, is going to vote Lib/Dem.

[aintforever]

Brown has communication problems, Clegg came out best IMO.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

Cameron close winner over Clegg. Still dislike politicians.

[bridge too far]

He doesn't sound like your average Sheffield resident....

 

He's a Sheffield MP

[bridge too far]

Brown has communication problems, Clegg came out best IMO.

 

Guardian Instant Poll suggests Clegg won, followed by Brown with Cameron on 8.8%

[Chin Strain]

He's a Sheffield MP

 

I know....I'm assuming he's got a house in Sheffield....

 

I'm never too sure whether to trust an MP who represents people from an area that they're not connected to. He seems to go wherever he has a chance of being elected.

[Johnny Bognor]

Clegg did better than I expected, but he always had the easiest job.

 

Brown was far more agressive to the tories and more direct. Clearly medolsome had given him some one liners, one that sticks out is "David this is answer time, not question time".

 

Cameron didn't do as well as expected. He needed to be more direct. Spent far too much time complimenting each questionner, which gave less time to answer the point. There were a number of points that could have been made and he missed the opportunity - a more direct approach could have knocked the other two into touch. The biggest for me was that the other two continuosly attacked him about cuts and they did so when he said he would protect the NHS. Meanwhile the other two were protecting everything, his man and his dog, yet they were not questioned as to where the money was coming from - anyone with common sense could see that, but alas there will be many viewers that lack this virtue.

 

At times the other two did gang up on him, so the lefties got 66% of the airtime, compared with tories 33%, and for this reason he had the most difficult of tasks. On the plus side, Cameron's closing plea was by far the best.

[aintforever]

Guardian Instant Poll suggests Clegg won, followed by Brown with Cameron on 8.8%

 

Not exactly a surprise from the Guardian, best ignore newspapers during election time.

[bridge too far]

I know....I'm assuming he's got a house in Sheffield....

 

I'm never too sure whether to trust an MP who represents people from an area that they're not connected to. He seems to go wherever he has a chance of being elected.

 

Apart from his current MPship, he has only before been an MEP for the East Midlands prior to becoming MP.

[Colinjb]

It seems the big winners tonight have worn Yellow.

[Arizona]

Labour coming last in most of the polls. Clegg a clear winner in the overall debate.

[Colinjb]

How much influence will these debates really have? Could the Lib Dems pull back the gap and become a big player?

[View From The Top]

 

At times the other two did gang up on him, so the lefties got 66% of the airtime, compared with tories 33%, and for this reason he had the most difficult of tasks.

 

Did the nasty naughtie lefties gang up on poor diddums Dave.

 

Bless.

 

You've put forward possibly the numbest things I've read on this board so far so well done for that accolade.

[View From The Top]

How much influence will these debates really have? Could the Lib Dems pull back the gap and become a big player?

 

I do think it could stop people from jumping direct from left to right as he did give a credible performance.

 

Good enough to persuade my missus as she was going to "none of the above".

 

I can see him appealing to a tranche of voters who dislike Brown but not trust Cameron.

[saint_mears]

As expected Cameron and Clegg did well and Brown raised his game to call it a score draw i reckon.

[Johnny Bognor]

Did the nasty naughtie lefties gang up on poor diddums Dave.

 

Bless.

 

You've put forward possibly the numbest things I've read on this board so far so well done for that accolade.

 

There is an issue that a minority party that wants proportional representation gets more than proportional airtime. Dave was really the only one having to fight battles on two fronts which generally never works.

 

My point was that it makes Camerons job much harder. Clegg had fraudon agreeing with him most of the evening, which made cleggs job far easier. Watching Brown suck up to Clegg made me want to vomit.

 

The TV Polls have it as:

 

1. Clegg

2. Cameron (who scored well on some issues)

3. Fraudon

 

I would say that is how I saw it, in terms of performance (rather than policy). In terms of policy, I think cameron as more realistic, because the other two promised the earth, when we all know that there will be massive cuts whoever wins the election.

Edited 15 April, 2010 by Johnny Bognor