Colinjb Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Cameron is flagging. Most dissapointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Cheaper ways to nuke people than Trident. how..do you reckon..? pay the yanks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 how..do you reckon..? pay the yanks.. Air delivery platforms. Way cheaper than the bombers. Wouldn't trust the yanks regarding blue on blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Air delivery platforms. Way cheaper than the bombers. but not as effective... anyway. that is another debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Wish they would all stop refering to our "brave men and women" in Afghanistan. We all know they are brave, it just sounds very patronising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Thankyou DC for standing up for national defense. Best thing he has said all night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 15 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Cameron just looks p*ssed off, like he's missing quiz night down The Duck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Camron is really struggling here. Brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Wish they would all stop refering to our "brave men and women" in Afghanistan. We all know they are brave, it just sounds very patronising. it is...forces members are not really underpaid..simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Camron is really struggling here. Brilliant! I dont think he is.. I guess we all go into this wanting certain outcomes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 15 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Have been impressed with browns note taking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Keep the trident program going for longer with the vanguard class. The Yanks are doing this with their's. They reckon it would save around 2-3 billion and allow a proper reconsideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 15 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 April, 2010 I dont think he is.. I guess we all go into this wanting certain outcomes Agree. It's impossible to remove all bias. You pick up on 'your mans' good points and highlight the negatives of others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Have been impressed with browns note taking And dissapointed to see Cameron is left handed!!! OOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 I dont think he is.. I guess we all go into this wanting certain outcomes It can be like a football match at times, only seeing what would be best for your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Keep the trident program going for longer with the vanguard class. The Yanks are doing this with their's. They reckon it would save around 2-3 billion and allow a proper reconsideration. they run their SM service very differently to ours..which is the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 15 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Cameron said helicopters 6 times in 15 words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Cameron said helicopters 6 times in 15 words How many times has Clegg said Sheffield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 How many times has Clegg said Sheffield? He doesn't sound like your average Sheffield resident.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 15 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 April, 2010 He doesn't sound like your average Sheffield resident.... I thought he was from around here somewhere?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 I thought he was from around here somewhere?? Chalfont St Giles according to Wiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landford.saint Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 POLITICS POLY means 'many'. TICS are Bloodsuckers. Whichever lot gets in they will have their noses deep in the trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 If I were to rank how they performed I'd go; Camron - spoke sence and honest Clegg - close second, but only because he tryed to pretend its all labour and tory and he's the holy grail Brown - distant third, repeated loads and would not be happy if he were PM again. He would not drop the NI rubbish, NI should def not go up but he brings it up all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 15 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 15 April, 2010 If I were to rank how they performed I'd go; Camron - spoke sence and honest Clegg - close second, but only because he tryed to pretend its all labour and tory and he's the holy grail Brown - distant third, repeated loads and would not be happy if he were PM again. He would not drop the NI rubbish, NI should def not go up but he brings it up all the time. Mustve watched a different show, or more likely same show with different biases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 My rank Cameron/Brown =1st. Brown played the figures well as you would expect for the ex chancellor and PM, but I believe far more in Cameron and his ideas/proposals. The next few debates will be fascinating. Clegg, 3rd. By no means a fool, made many good points but just too shallow compared to the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Mustve watched a different show, or more likely same show with different biases Fair point, I've never liked Labour and never ever will. Well spotted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Clegg has been by far the best "performer" IMO (and I don't mean that in a derogatory way). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MongoNeil Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 If I were to rank how they performed I'd go; Camron - spoke sence and honest Clegg - close second, but only because he tryed to pretend its all labour and tory and he's the holy grail Brown - distant third, repeated loads and would not be happy if he were PM again. He would not drop the NI rubbish, NI should def not go up but he brings it up all the time. Wow, couldn't have seen it more differently. Cameron did himself no favours at all my eyes and was miles behind the other two. Quite impressed with Brown and I've never voted Labour in my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 He we go again with mentioning of "The 2 old parties" You're not in the running mate. At least Ming Cambell was to senile to realise and Charlie to p*ssed to notice! OOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Clegg has been by far the best "performer" IMO (and I don't mean that in a derogatory way). I thought he was going to stick one on Brown if he'd have said 'Nick agrees with me' once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Brown trying to be down with the kids there "Britains got talent and X-Factor" OOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 I find both Clegg and Cameron to be fairly likeable, even if their policies are fairly far apart. Brown just depresses me and it's hard to believe anything he says when he's made such a monumental **** up of his time so far. P.S. The new poll is now open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Think Cameron's best bit was his summing up. OOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Closing statements Lib Dems - Weak, same old 'pick someone else' argument. Pathetic really. Labour - Needless pop culture references, Focusing on keeping money in economy to ensure recovery and not compromise the public sectors. Attacking Tories over not ensuring public sector funding. Tories - Suggests debate has just tried to scaremonger the thought of a Tory governement, attacks labour ideas of taxing jobs and continuing innefficiencies in consistent methods. Says will back up those who work hard. 'We are in this together.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Brown did way better than I expected and Cameron actually did worse than I expected. My Doris, after that, is going to vote Lib/Dem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Brown has communication problems, Clegg came out best IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Cameron close winner over Clegg. Still dislike politicians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 He doesn't sound like your average Sheffield resident.... He's a Sheffield MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Brown has communication problems, Clegg came out best IMO. Guardian Instant Poll suggests Clegg won, followed by Brown with Cameron on 8.8% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 He's a Sheffield MP I know....I'm assuming he's got a house in Sheffield.... I'm never too sure whether to trust an MP who represents people from an area that they're not connected to. He seems to go wherever he has a chance of being elected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Clegg did better than I expected, but he always had the easiest job. Brown was far more agressive to the tories and more direct. Clearly medolsome had given him some one liners, one that sticks out is "David this is answer time, not question time". Cameron didn't do as well as expected. He needed to be more direct. Spent far too much time complimenting each questionner, which gave less time to answer the point. There were a number of points that could have been made and he missed the opportunity - a more direct approach could have knocked the other two into touch. The biggest for me was that the other two continuosly attacked him about cuts and they did so when he said he would protect the NHS. Meanwhile the other two were protecting everything, his man and his dog, yet they were not questioned as to where the money was coming from - anyone with common sense could see that, but alas there will be many viewers that lack this virtue. At times the other two did gang up on him, so the lefties got 66% of the airtime, compared with tories 33%, and for this reason he had the most difficult of tasks. On the plus side, Cameron's closing plea was by far the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Guardian Instant Poll suggests Clegg won, followed by Brown with Cameron on 8.8% Not exactly a surprise from the Guardian, best ignore newspapers during election time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 I know....I'm assuming he's got a house in Sheffield.... I'm never too sure whether to trust an MP who represents people from an area that they're not connected to. He seems to go wherever he has a chance of being elected. Apart from his current MPship, he has only before been an MEP for the East Midlands prior to becoming MP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 It seems the big winners tonight have worn Yellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 Labour coming last in most of the polls. Clegg a clear winner in the overall debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 How much influence will these debates really have? Could the Lib Dems pull back the gap and become a big player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 At times the other two did gang up on him, so the lefties got 66% of the airtime, compared with tories 33%, and for this reason he had the most difficult of tasks. Did the nasty naughtie lefties gang up on poor diddums Dave. Bless. You've put forward possibly the numbest things I've read on this board so far so well done for that accolade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 How much influence will these debates really have? Could the Lib Dems pull back the gap and become a big player? I do think it could stop people from jumping direct from left to right as he did give a credible performance. Good enough to persuade my missus as she was going to "none of the above". I can see him appealing to a tranche of voters who dislike Brown but not trust Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 As expected Cameron and Clegg did well and Brown raised his game to call it a score draw i reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 15 April, 2010 Share Posted 15 April, 2010 (edited) Did the nasty naughtie lefties gang up on poor diddums Dave. Bless. You've put forward possibly the numbest things I've read on this board so far so well done for that accolade. There is an issue that a minority party that wants proportional representation gets more than proportional airtime. Dave was really the only one having to fight battles on two fronts which generally never works. My point was that it makes Camerons job much harder. Clegg had fraudon agreeing with him most of the evening, which made cleggs job far easier. Watching Brown suck up to Clegg made me want to vomit. The TV Polls have it as: 1. Clegg 2. Cameron (who scored well on some issues) 3. Fraudon I would say that is how I saw it, in terms of performance (rather than policy). In terms of policy, I think cameron as more realistic, because the other two promised the earth, when we all know that there will be massive cuts whoever wins the election. Edited 15 April, 2010 by Johnny Bognor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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