Apologies to the people who were sceptical and or negative

[saint_stevo]

You were right, i may even owe that nutter who runs the ultra negative forum an apology, SF76 or similar.

 

Each time we conceded i wasnt annoyed or upset, i laughed, or smiled wryly.

 

What has happened to our club ffs?!

[alpine_saint]

Dont be a soft lad, I for one would have been delighted to be proven wrong.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Dont be a soft lad, I for one would have been delighted to be proven wrong.

 

Fair point.

[rocknrollman no2]

Welcome to the dark side my friend.

[Thedelldays]

I would love to be wrong...however, sadly it seems i am (and one or two others) are not and maybe some might wake up and stop spouting crap like saying they like the CCC and the Odd football we are playing..

 

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Glasgow_Saint]

Bring back Burley - grass is greener anyone???

[Saint Billy]

Dont be a soft lad, I for one would have been delighted to be proven wrong.

 

Ditto!

[qwertySFC]

As a saints fan we all love this club ..but i have chosen not to pay the £26 to watch this dross and was lambasted for not supporting the club when it needed it most. I have lost my love for this club , the SMS experience and most of all which pains me to say but I am just not that bothered any more ..premiership , Fizzy pop league , relegation, total football ..Im just dont give a ****e any more about SFC in this current format....

[fanimal]

And was going to go to the game, but KNEW we would get beat - so I drove home with Saints shirt in my bag....

[gjphilsaint]

Bring back Burley - grass is greener anyone???

 

Burley was a carrier of this vicious strain of carp operate now to remove the whole cancerous lot!!!

[benjii]

Bring back Burley - grass is greener anyone???

 

Nah, bring back Pearson.

[alpine_saint]

Nah, bring back Pearson.

 

Yep, a truly catastrophic decision, maybe the worst by Lowe since flogging Wayne Bridge.

[Saint Billy]

I would love to be wrong...however, sadly it seems i am (and one or two others) are not and maybe some might wake up and stop spouting crap like saying they like the CCC and the Odd football we are playing..

 

boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

 

:confused:

[saint_stevo]

Dont be a soft lad, I for one would have been delighted to be proven wrong.

 

Not sure its me being soft, i have finally had all the hope beaten out of me, and i dont see any light from any tunnels, we seem to randomly pluck people into the squad, play out of form players, and ignore the decent experienced players.

 

Losing the will to support.

[Glasgow_Saint]

Nah, bring back Pearson.

 

doubt he'd come back

[EastleighSoulBoy]

doubt he'd come back

 

Would you?

 

Not while RL is here I reckon.

[John Smith]

I take no joy in watching (from my armchair) the sad demise in this club. I am not here to say I told you so, but I would like to point out one thing;

 

Me renewing my ST for this season would have made ABSOLUTELY no difference to the performance on the pitch. I doubt very much whether an extra 18,000 fans would've made that much difference either.

 

Lowe has nailed the coffin firmly shut, for those of you that have a faith, start praying now. For those of you without faith, I hope you believe in fairy tales and happy endings.

 

Administration must now be a stones throw away. Should we take the 10 points deduction now, or when we get relegated and start League 1 on minus 10?

[alpine_saint]

I take no joy in watching (from my armchair) the sad demise in this club. I am not here to say I told you so, but I would like to point out one thing;

 

Me renewing my ST for this season would have made ABSOLUTELY no difference to the performance on the pitch. I doubt very much whether an extra 18,000 fans would've made that much difference either.

 

Lowe has nailed the coffin firmly shut, for those of you that have a faith, start praying now. For those of you without faith, I hope you believe in fairy tales and happy endings.

 

Administration must now be a stones throw away. Should we take the 10 points deduction now, or when we get relegated and start League 1 on minus 10?

 

NOW. Without new ownership (which we aint going to get), this season is already a write-off

[badgerx16]

Scooby, where are you ? Come out, come out, wherever you are !

[Professor]

Not sure its me being soft, i have finally had all the hope beaten out of me, and i dont see any light from any tunnels, we seem to randomly pluck people into the squad, play out of form players, and ignore the decent experienced players.

 

Losing the will to support.

Me too. JP's failure to make proper use of Stern John - the one proven goal scorer at this level, has eroded my faith in JP's judgement. I will not return to the SMS until the team are winning games - so I could be away for a very long time.

[saintcrris]

I wanted Pearson to stay and thought this was a mistake and a huge gamble by Lowe, but I will not desert the club like aload of rats on a sinking ship.

 

JP is clearly out of his depth and I feel sorry for him.

[saint_ed]

I wanted Pearson to stay and thought this was a mistake and a huge gamble by Lowe, but I will not desert the club like aload of rats on a sinking ship.

 

JP is clearly out of his depth and I feel sorry for him.

 

Pretty much how I feel.

[saint1977]

You were right, i may even owe that nutter who runs the ultra negative forum an apology, SF76 or similar.

 

Each time we conceded i wasnt annoyed or upset, i laughed, or smiled wryly.

 

What has happened to our club ffs?!

 

No need for an apology mate, none of us take any pleasure in this. Time for Rupert to really go this time though, you can't hide behind Wilde or Leon this time Rupert.

[um pahars]

You were right, i may even owe that nutter who runs the ultra negative forum an apology, SF76 or similar.

 

Each time we conceded i wasnt annoyed or upset, i laughed, or smiled wryly.

 

What has happened to our club ffs?!

 

You and anyone else who thought things might get better have no reason to apologise for anything whatsoever.

 

Who cares if you were optimistic, who cares if you were upbeat, who cares if you wanted what ultimately we all want i.e. a winning side.

 

You've done nothing wrong in wanting our side to win.

 

And conversely no one who was unsure, pessimistic or whatever has no reason to gloat (not that they would) as ultimately it is our Club that is being fcuukced over here.

[ottery st mary]

I wanted Pearson to stay and thought this was a mistake and a huge gamble by Lowe, but I will not desert the club like aload of rats on a sinking ship.

 

JP is clearly out of his depth and I feel sorry for him.

 

Pearson was a massive statement and clear intent just who was going to run the team.

 

JP has been let down very badly and hung out to dry. At least now Lowey should stand aside and his backers should re-appoint a leader now..

[StubbSaint]

i said from day 1 he was a clueless dutch joker out of his depth , and it gives me no pleasure to be proved right . i will be at donny saturday and win lose or draw , im not letting lowe or the dutch joker and that guttless team **** my trip on the train , will have loads of beer and good laugh whatever ****e is dished up on the field , the truth is saints dont hurt me anymore

[puff the magic dragon]

You were right, i may even owe that nutter who runs the ultra negative forum an apology, SF76 or similar.

 

Each time we conceded i wasnt annoyed or upset, i laughed, or smiled wryly.

 

What has happened to our club ffs?!

 

Apology accepted. I take no pleasure in how the club is now, but chin up, the end game is drawing near and we'll soon be a Lowe/Wilde free club. Then and only then will there be a glimmer of light, but the road back is going to be a long one. Man City were league 1 not so long back and have bounced back and Leeds and Leicester are on the up again. There's no reason why we can't do the same, but i don't think we can avoid a stint in the 3rd tier of English football first.

[badgerx16]

Thing is, it's now got to the point of 'gallows humour'. I'm having to laugh the whole situation off as a bad joke, in an office full of Blackpool supporters, - I'll say that again BLACKPOOL supporters with a superiority complex. ( There's even a skate :mad: ).

Even so, come kick-off time I'll be eagerly anticipating the start of the great revival, ( but by half time it'll be business as usual ). Still, as an eternal pessimist, I may find that by full time I am pleasantly surprised.

[trousers]

And was going to go to the game, but KNEW we would get beat - so I drove home with Saints shirt in my bag....

 

Did you have a Saints sticker on your car window? My sister-in-law was on the way up to Nottingham this morning and saw a car driving south with a Saints sticker....true story.

[Arizona]

Bring back Burley - grass is greener anyone???

 

F**k no!

 

Burley's results may have been better than ours thus far, but he massively underacheived with a far superior squad to the one we have now.

 

If Burley just scraped into the playoffs with a squad containing Rasiak, Jones, Bale, Baird, Lundekvam, Skacel, Saganowski, Pele, Surman, Guthrie and Viafara, imagine what he'd do with these retards.

 

Anyone hazard a guess at the team?

 

Davis

Wright Killer MS Surman

DMG Perry lallana Euell

John BWP

 

*shudder*

[solentstars]

Without going on about what may or may happen in the future, for the record, if no-one knows about a situation, such as the start of this season, then choosing to be negative takes a particularly depressing disposition, and I don't think anyone should be jealous of such a sad existence. Forget football for a second, I just can't comprehend how people live like that. It would of course, be silly also to be hugely optimistic when having no information on a subject, so caution was the only approach if you had half a brain. But what I don't understand, is how far people can take the negativity in such a short space of time, GIVEN how low their expectation levels were supposed to be. They said we'd be going down. Well, at the moment we still have a great chance of staying up don't we, so why have we given up? Fine, moan on if it carries on until after christmas. I know some will say "it might be too late by then", but where the hell do you draw the line? Lose 5 games and you're out? 3? 1? The rules seems to change each season from the same people. "No keep Burley we need stability" they said, while he wasted every last penny and put us in this position, now it's "sack jan before it's too late", even though we all know there's no other viable option.

 

I appreciate the concerns and frustrations, and I don't mean to sound as insulting as I usually do, but really, what the hell are you all talking about??! There's so many irrational or ill-thought out comments. Sack the manager, sack the board, change the formation, drop him pick him, get investment and so on. We've done it all before, it hasn't helped us. Maybe it would this time, maybe there's some amazing manager that would come in and turn it round, but it would be Lowe's choice, so I find it doubtful many of you would give him more than 5-10 games either, so what's the point?

spot on post,

[badgerx16]

Without going on about what may or may happen in the future, for the record, if no-one knows about a situation, such as the start of this season, then choosing to be negative takes a particularly depressing disposition, and I don't think anyone should be jealous of such a sad existence. Forget football for a second, I just can't comprehend how people live like that. It would of course, be silly also to be hugely optimistic when having no information on a subject, so caution was the only approach if you had half a brain. But what I don't understand, is how far people can take the negativity in such a short space of time, GIVEN how low their expectation levels were supposed to be. They said we'd be going down. Well, at the moment we still have a great chance of staying up don't we, so why have we given up? Fine, moan on if it carries on until after christmas. I know some will say "it might be too late by then", but where the hell do you draw the line? Lose 5 games and you're out? 3? 1? The rules seems to change each season from the same people. "No keep Burley we need stability" they said, while he wasted every last penny and put us in this position, now it's "sack jan before it's too late", even though we all know there's no other viable option.

 

I appreciate the concerns and frustrations, and I don't mean to sound as insulting as I usually do, but really, what the hell are you all talking about??! There's so many irrational or ill-thought out comments. Sack the manager, sack the board, change the formation, drop him pick him, get investment and so on. We've done it all before, it hasn't helped us. Maybe it would this time, maybe there's some amazing manager that would come in and turn it round, but it would be Lowe's choice, so I find it doubtful many of you would give him more than 5-10 games either, so what's the point?

Where, in our current position, is the line between pessimism and realism ? At the start of the season, some of us were not quite as enthusiastic as others about JPs appointment, seeing no logical reason to replace Pearson with a completely unproven unknown; who so far has shown very little that might change our preconceptions. Similarly, we were not quite so certain that playing 'total football' with last year's reserves would lead us to the promised land.

I do not think there is a single person on this forum, or Saints fan elsewhere, who fails to realise the financial situation, but even so, letting almost all of last year's seniors go, and not even playing the ones that remain, strikes many of us as plain suicidal. Similarly the apparent belief that Killer would be the great saviour, and somehow remove the need to build any sort of strength in depth in the defensive unit.

Nobody, except possibly scabby and sunprance, take any pleasure in seeing OUR team decay to such an extent, (even MackRill and EyeSk8 are probably more embarrassed for us, than laughing at us, at the moment ). Sure there are plenty of points still to play for, and I sincerely hope that JP can manage the team in accumulating, by fair means or foul, sufficient to guarantee survival at the end of the season; but anybody who started the season with the 'we will walk this league' attitude has already been shown how wrong they were. It is, and always was, going to be very long, very hard season, and the biggest concern is that with such a young squad, their confidence is fragile, and once lost may never recover.

[Big Ron fan]

I wanted Pearson to stay and thought this was a mistake and a huge gamble by Lowe, but I will not desert the club like aload of rats on a sinking ship.

 

JP is clearly out of his depth and I feel sorry for him.

 

I don't know why this seems to be a surprise to so many of you. It was apparent from his CV that he would be!

[offix]

Me too. JP's failure to make proper use of Stern John - the one proven goal scorer at this level, has eroded my faith in JP's judgement. I will not return to the SMS until the team are winning games - so I could be away for a very long time.

 

Wow, you are the same "Professor" who for months has declared on this board that those who stay away cannot be real fans? The same "Professor" who said that those criticizing the setup and this experiment were secretly hoping we would lose? Wow.

[LostBoys]

I have not got a lot to add to these very good posts. I am not going to abandon the club but I do not know where we go from here. I said on earlier forums that as I watch the Reserves and U18s that we had a lot of good players coming through but that this league was not the place to experiment with too many youngsters - you only have to look at the type of teams that have been promoted in recent years. I said I thought that we might be bottom by the end of October. I think that this will go on for a few more weeks then Lowe will push the panic button for another manager. I have no idea who. Very depressed.

[hypochondriac]

I wanted us to avoid relegation this season.. If we win our next game then we will probably be out of the relegation zone and the season thus far will be a success.

[offix]

You were right, i may even owe that nutter who runs the ultra negative forum an apology, SF76 or similar.

 

Each time we conceded i wasnt annoyed or upset, i laughed, or smiled wryly.

 

What has happened to our club ffs?!

 

No need to apologize for having an opinion. We're all entitled to our opinions, and entitled to change our minds.

[sperm_john]

still faithfull

[alpine_saint]

Where, in our current position, is the line between pessimism and realism ? At the start of the season, some of us were not quite as enthusiastic as others about JPs appointment, seeing no logical reason to replace Pearson with a completely unproven unknown; who so far has shown very little that might change our preconceptions. Similarly, we were not quite so certain that playing 'total football' with last year's reserves would lead us to the promised land.

I do not think there is a single person on this forum, or Saints fan elsewhere, who fails to realise the financial situation, but even so, letting almost all of last year's seniors go, and not even playing the ones that remain, strikes many of us as plain suicidal. Similarly the apparent belief that Killer would be the great saviour, and somehow remove the need to build any sort of strength in depth in the defensive unit.

Nobody, except possibly scabby and sunprance, take any pleasure in seeing OUR team decay to such an extent, (even MackRill and EyeSk8 are probably more embarrassed for us, than laughing at us, at the moment ). Sure there are plenty of points still to play for, and I sincerely hope that JP can manage the team in accumulating, by fair means or foul, sufficient to guarantee survival at the end of the season; but anybody who started the season with the 'we will walk this league' attitude has already been shown how wrong they were. It is, and always was, going to be very long, very hard season, and the biggest concern is that with such a young squad, their confidence is fragile, and once lost may never recover.

 

 

Good post.

[70's Mike]

Wow, you are the same "Professor" who for months has declared on this board that those who stay away cannot be real fans? The same "Professor" who said that those criticizing the setup and this experiment were secretly hoping we would lose? Wow.

 

Staggered by the Professor's post, i have had a few disagreements with him but to stay away.

 

I dislike Lowe with a passion and as for Askham, words fail me.

JP because of Rupert is out of his depth , my Dutch friends warned me about him.

 

BUT I still keep going every week and will continue to do so, yes it is the most difficult time in my 47 years of support but the HOPE in me is still there

 

SOUTHAMPTON TILL I DIE

[John B]

Surely the situation we find ourselves in was predictable before the season started we were going to struggle and maybe get relegated so I am not surprised where we are now.

 

But most fans did not accept this fact - I could not believe the results of the pre season poll on where we would finish in the league

 

Although dire our situation does not mean automatic relegation or administration is a foregone conclusion.

 

 

We were unable to afford experienced players or coaching staff.

 

 

We will just have to wait and see what happens the only way results are going to improve long term is if the financial situation improves either by investment or further sales and cutbacks.

[Guest Hacienda]

Me too. JP's failure to make proper use of Stern John - the one proven goal scorer at this level, has eroded my faith in JP's judgement. I will not return to the SMS until the team are winning games - so I could be away for a very long time.

 

Yet you felt free to chastise others earlier in the season for taking that stance.

 

Maybe you should apologise to them?

[Norm]

Wow, you are the same "Professor" who for months has declared on this board that those who stay away cannot be real fans? The same "Professor" who said that those criticizing the setup and this experiment were secretly hoping we would lose? Wow.

 

Ditto wow! I had to read the 'Profs' post three times:o And the same feeling of surprise on reading John Smith's post.

 

I'm not unhappy at our loss last night, against a team full of a winning confidence. My concern is at our overall situation. My team being managed by a well meaning man without the resources. As each game ends, I feel more sorry for him. As for the club I've supported since 1956, it looks bleaker as each week passes.

[monkadill]

Without going on about what may or may happen in the future, for the record, if no-one knows about a situation, such as the start of this season, then choosing to be negative takes a particularly depressing disposition, and I don't think anyone should be jealous of such a sad existence. Forget football for a second, I just can't comprehend how people live like that. It would of course, be silly also to be hugely optimistic when having no information on a subject, so caution was the only approach if you had half a brain. But what I don't understand, is how far people can take the negativity in such a short space of time, GIVEN how low their expectation levels were supposed to be. They said we'd be going down. Well, at the moment we still have a great chance of staying up don't we, so why have we given up? Fine, moan on if it carries on until after christmas. I know some will say "it might be too late by then", but where the hell do you draw the line? Lose 5 games and you're out? 3? 1? The rules seems to change each season from the same people. "No keep Burley we need stability" they said, while he wasted every last penny and put us in this position, now it's "sack jan before it's too late", even though we all know there's no other viable option.

 

I appreciate the concerns and frustrations, and I don't mean to sound as insulting as I usually do, but really, what the hell are you all talking about??! There's so many irrational or ill-thought out comments. Sack the manager, sack the board, change the formation, drop him pick him, get investment and so on. We've done it all before, it hasn't helped us. Maybe it would this time, maybe there's some amazing manager that would come in and turn it round, but it would be Lowe's choice, so I find it doubtful many of you would give him more than 5-10 games either, so what's the point?

 

Spot on - my thoughts as well. Most posters are fickle and cant see the need for unity with the club.

[Wes Tender]

Without going on about what may or may happen in the future, for the record, if no-one knows about a situation, such as the start of this season, then choosing to be negative takes a particularly depressing disposition, and I don't think anyone should be jealous of such a sad existence.

 

How many times does it have to be explained? There is a difference between realism and negativity and pessimism. It is perfectly acceptable for somebody to make a reasoned assessment of our prospects based on the facts before them at the beginning of the season. Unless you dispute that it was a huge gamble playing the youngsters managed by a foreign coach inexperienced in this country, let alone at this level, then scepticism or realism is the sensible viewpoint. What I find rather sad is those who can view something so experimental and such a gamble and look at it with optimism. Life teaches us lessons to rein in that sort of blind enthusiasm. The expression "a fool and his money are soon parted" is one that is relevant to those who don't look before they leap, to give a couple of mixed metaphors.

 

 

Forget football for a second, I just can't comprehend how people live like that. It would of course, be silly also to be hugely optimistic when having no information on a subject, so caution was the only approach if you had half a brain.

 

So it's Ok to be cautious and hopefully realistic, but whereas it's silly to be optimistic, those who are pessimistic have a depressing existence leading a sad life.

 

But what I don't understand, is how far people can take the negativity in such a short space of time, GIVEN how low their expectation levels were supposed to be.

 

I suspect that all of the realists are starting to think that their expectations as to how we're doing have started to be proven right. I'm sure that noboby gains any pleasure from that.

 

They said we'd be going down. Well, at the moment we still have a great chance of staying up don't we, so why have we given up?

 

Great chance of staying up? There is time, certainly. But has there been some change that has improved our chances that I have not heard of? Undoubtedly if we carry on like this we will be relegated, so change is necessary soon.

 

Fine, moan on if it carries on until after christmas. I know some will say "it might be too late by then", but where the hell do you draw the line? Lose 5 games and you're out? 3? 1?

Lowe is in charge and it was his constant changes that caused the instability that got us relagated. How many games did he allow a manager? And how many will he allow JP who is his choice in this wild experiment of his?

 

The rules seems to change each season from the same people. "No keep Burley we need stability" they said, while he wasted every last penny and put us in this position, now it's "sack jan before it's too late", even though we all know there's no other viable option.

 

There is always a viable option. One just needs to find it.

 

I appreciate the concerns and frustrations, and I don't mean to sound as insulting as I usually do, but really, what the hell are you all talking about??! There's so many irrational or ill-thought out comments. Sack the manager, sack the board, change the formation, drop him pick him, get investment and so on.

Are all of those comments and suggestions irrational or ill-thought out? A bit arrogant isn't it to dismiss the opinion of others in that way. I'm presuming that you consider your opinion to be rational and well considered, but everybody elses isn't.

 

We've done it all before, it hasn't helped us. Maybe it would this time, maybe there's some amazing manager that would come in and turn it round, but it would be Lowe's choice, so I find it doubtful many of you would give him more than 5-10 games either, so what's the point?

 

You're quite right. There's little to be gained by Lowe appointing another manager. The best solution would be to have Lowe go and take the Quisling and all the other charlatans with him.

[Give it to Ron]

Ditto wow! I had to read the 'Profs' post three times:o And the same feeling of surprise on reading John Smith's post.

 

I'm not unhappy at our loss last night, against a team full of a winning confidence. My concern is at our overall situation. My team being managed by a well meaning man without the resources. As each game ends, I feel more sorry for him. As for the club I've supported since 1956, it looks bleaker as each week passes.

 

Listening to him on the radio this morning it seems JP has realised what most have been saying all pre season he sounded as though he had enough and was lost.

We need experience to go along with the youth - to gamble the whole season on Killer being fit at the back was ludicrous. Thomas and several of the senior pros were told they were "surplus to requirements" so is it any wonder things look bleak not exactly great for morale.

We cannot keep playing the skint card...we have to find a solution quick get in some loans like we did with Lucketti or Delldays will have nothing to keep on about people enjoying the CC every other post as we will be on our way to League 2 with Bournemouth after points deductions.

[Oz]

Bring back Burley - grass is greener anyone???

 

until lowe comes around and cuts it! we are garbage atm!

[trousers]

Wow, you are the same "Professor" who for months has declared on this board that those who stay away cannot be real fans? The same "Professor" who said that those criticizing the setup and this experiment were secretly hoping we would lose? Wow.

 

You'll find that a PR department with several people using a single member name will show inconsistencies from time to time....

[Frank's cousin]

Its the biggest dilemma facing us... the knowledge that perhaps the faith and belief we WANT to feel is misguided and naive... Its the paradox of being a fan... because of your love you WANT to believe that the club is on the right path, but as the weeks go by and the results stay the same that faith is erroded and its foundations become very weak indeed. But its this faith that underpins much of what being a fan is all about.

 

I think our situation is further complicated by the Lowe/Wilde debate. Hear me out. Say we had an owner who we all liked, but who was poor and unable to put in cash to prop us up. Had in the past say done everything possible for fans and the club through personal investment and establishing a culture at the club with which we ALL identified and ALL welcomed. Say that owner told it like it was, told us that sadly we were now skint, the cupbaor was bare and we had to try something new, rely on youth development as it was cheap, with a coach that was cheap but had a knack of working on a shoestring with young players, but it would take time and hard lessons before the results happened. The owner also states honestly that this approach will also help raise much needed funds when the best assets are sold. Would we under those circumstances have more patience, would we accept it and provide a unified spirit of support through the dark times ahead, or would this cause the kind of divisons we are seeing now?

 

I think this is important - the Lowe/Wilde factor divided the fan base before, and its influence on our patience is increasing.

 

As fans we want to believe the club is doing all it can, if we are confident that it is we tend to be more patient and importantly more supporting of what it is trying to do. I think the problems we have are two fold. 1. there is simply NO trust that the club is doing what is right under the circumstances, and 2. because of the history, there is simply too much bad blood that some fans would never believe that the ownership has any kind of solution no matter what is tried.

 

The sad thing is this all means that we dont support with 100% committment that the club needs financially, acknowledging that its impossible to maintain the enthusiams and love and financial outlay for something seemingly at odds with all we believe about Saints. And it gets worse, as dwindling attendance and a culture of misery will effect the mood and atmosphere which in turn will effect the very kids that some believe are the future of the club.

 

So its no surprize that this frustration leads in many cases to anger and resentment and worse of all eventually apathy.

 

So what is the solution? And thats where we all seem to differ - I dont think those on the 'positive/naive' side are wrong for wanting to maintain their 100% support despite teh results as I would suggest they see the situation as described above - eg the Lowe /Wilde factor is irrelevent - this is not saying they support them, in fact many may dislike and 'hate' them equally, but that we (I do include my good naive self in this bracket) get our perverse pleasure from being a fan no matter what despite the frustration! On the otherside there are those love and committment has been driven to fury and hate by the years of suffering and continual on the field decline for whom only ownership change will suffice. No one is wrong here. The only wrong approach IMHO, would be this continued resentment and hatred if the current approach actually worked and delivered what the board naively think it should.

 

COYRs ;-)

[Raven on the wing]

When I posted we would get only 6 pts from the first 6 games I hoped to be proved wrong and I was !! I said that our hopes would depend on those experienced players left who nobody else wanted to buy/pay their wages. Nothing has changed has it ? What annoys me particularly is those who said we had no option but to go with the kids. How about appointing a manager with proven track record in the championship and finding experienced players from the lower leagues. Bristol City can do it successfully why not us ? Losing 5000 fans per home game @ £20 = £100,000 x 23 = £2.3m. 4 decent players @ £10k per week = £2m is that rocket science ?