Hatch Posted 1 May, 2010 Share Posted 1 May, 2010 A question to all you Daily Mail and Express reading types... The vast majority of illegal immigrants are not those that sneak across on ferries but people with a visitor's visa who stay on after it has expired. Which nationality tops the league in overstaying? The Oirish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 May, 2010 Share Posted 1 May, 2010 Da little feckin oooieeejets. I will give each one a £1 to go back and help with the development of Oiireland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 May, 2010 Share Posted 1 May, 2010 The Irish don't need a visa and therefore cant overstay. hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 May, 2010 Share Posted 1 May, 2010 My offer stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 May, 2010 Share Posted 1 May, 2010 A question to all you Daily Mail and Express reading types... The vast majority of illegal immigrants are not those that sneak across on ferries but people with a visitor's visa who stay on after it has expired. Which nationality tops the league in overstaying? USofA or the convicts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 May, 2010 Share Posted 1 May, 2010 A question to all you Daily Mail and Express reading types... The vast majority of illegal immigrants are not those that sneak across on ferries but people with a visitor's visa who stay on after it has expired. Which nationality tops the league in overstaying? Nobody knows because we stopped keeping a list of entries and exits in the early 1960s, which makes life difficult for future family historians, but has more serious consequences. Wasn't it at the commonwealth games where whole groups entered on 'athletics' visas but never left the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 1 May, 2010 Share Posted 1 May, 2010 USofA or the convicts? Yeah, actually I bet it is the Aussies. A lot of them may be on a tax scam too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 1 May, 2010 Share Posted 1 May, 2010 A question to all you Daily Mail and Express reading types... The vast majority of illegal immigrants are not those that sneak across on ferries but people with a visitor's visa who stay on after it has expired. Which nationality tops the league in overstaying? Antipodeans but we know they will go back at some point. There motive is less long term than the problem ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 1 May, 2010 Share Posted 1 May, 2010 Dunno? Aussies? You are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 I'm not a religious man. But please god do not let these people get elected... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8663681.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 I'm not a religious man. But please god do not let these people get elected... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8663681.stm He was spat at so I don't blame him for retaliating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 He was spat at so I don't blame him for retaliating. Dune, they were walking along the road and he said "what are you robbers?". He deserved to be spat in the face of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 They should have spat at him a bit more and punched him a bit harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Dune, they were walking along the road and he said "what are you robbers?". He deserved to be spat in the face of. I missed that, but i'd like to see the full footage to assertain if the group said something before the "robbers" comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Right, i've listeded again and he says "how many is there of us?" There's no mention of Robbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 He got the better of the 3 of them. Respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 To be fair, he said "how many is there of us". That said, I'm glad they spat in his face. You just have to watch the bloke kicking the guy on the ground to see what the BNP is really all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 He was spat in the face. Anyone would react like that. I would have more sympathy if the entire party weren't ignorant tw*ts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Right, i've listeded again and he says "how many is there of us?" There's no mention of Robbers. Right at the start of the video, as the lads are crossing the road, he clearly asks them if they are robbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Right at the start of the video, as the lads are crossing the road, he clearly asks them if they are robbers. Which is what I was referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 (edited) hard of hearing.... Edited 5 May, 2010 by LGTL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Right at the start of the video, as the lads are crossing the road, he clearly asks them if they are robbers. 1. I absolutely hate the BNP, so not defending them at all :-) 2. Are you hard of hearing? It is quite clearly "How many is there of us?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 "How many of you's are robbers" to be precise. Ok apologies I stand corrected, though this difference is of little significance. It is still an abhorrent thing to say, and warranted getting spat at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 1. I absolutely hate the BNP, so not defending them at all :-) 2. Are you hard of hearing? It is quite clearly "How many is there of us?" LOL I blame his northern accent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 Ok apologies I stand corrected, though this difference is of little significance. It is still an abhorrent thing to say, and warranted getting spat at. I was actually agreeing with you, although we are both wrong, listen to it carefully and he is actually saying how many is there of us. It's that terrible accent that confused me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 LOL I blame his northern accent. :-) Either way. Let's just agree he's a c*nt and we would all have spat in his face regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 (edited) Its "How many is there of us?" who knows what was said before the clip started. Edited 5 May, 2010 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 (edited) I've said it before, and I will say it again: The British National Party is the single most important political party in the election. Important. Not best, nor correct. But important. The BNP is a legally constituted party and thus have as much right to be involved in this election as any other. They have the same right as all other parties for their message to be heard. They are a bonefide political party and no one, but no one, should deal with them any differently to any other political party. The BNP is the 'escape valve' of this election. Immigration is a real issue in the country, and the BNP are fulfilling their role in bringing it front of stage. Nothing more. I hold the view that the BNP's policies are repugnant. I will do everything in my power, as afforded me as a simple elector, to make sure that they do not form the next government. I will also do all in my power to hold the next government to account and make sure that the fertile soil into which the BNP sows its seed is reclaimed. But most of all I am willing to die to ensure that the BNP is allowed to be heard. If I can not defend the right of those with whom I strongly disagree to voice their opinions then I too can have no right to be heard. Edited 5 May, 2010 by 1976_Child Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 5 May, 2010 Share Posted 5 May, 2010 I've said it before, and I will say it again: The British National Party is the single most important political party in the election. Important. Not best, nor correct. But important. The BNP is a legally constituted party and thus have as much right to be involved in this election as any other. They have the same right as all other parties for their message to be heard. They are a bonefide political party and no one, but no one, should deal with them any differently to any other political party. The BNP is the 'escape valve' of this election. Immigration is a real issue in the country, and the BNP are fulfilling their role in bringing it front of stage. Nothing more. I hold the view that the BNP's policies are repugnant. I will do everything in my power, as afforded me as a simple elector, to make sure that they do not form the next government. I will also do all in my power to hold the next government to account and make sure that the fertile soil into which the BNP sows its seed is reclaimed. But most of all I am willing to die to ensure that the BNP is allowed to be heard. If I can not defend the right of those with whom I strongly disagree to voice their opinions then I too can have no right to be heard. Absolutely. reminds me of that lawyer-y sayinig "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" evelyn beatrice hall. Though I do stand by my previous comment that i hope upon hope they do not get a seat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 You just have to watch the bloke kicking the guy on the ground to see what the BNP is really all about. I thought fair play, at least he stood by his mate, where were the spitters mates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I thought fair play, at least he stood by his mate, where were the spitters mates? Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Ok apologies I stand corrected, though this difference is of little significance. It is still an abhorrent thing to say, and warranted getting spat at. Firstly, that is clearly not what he said. Secondly, it would certainly not warrant spitting in someone faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I thought fair play, at least he stood by his mate, where were the spitters mates? Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 He was spat at so I don't blame him for retaliating. Hate crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 If it wasnt for the fact that the guy was a BNP candidate everyone would be saying the three deserved a slap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUS Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 If it wasnt for the fact that the guy was a BNP candidate everyone would be saying the three deserved a slap. If he wasn't a BNP candidate that would never have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 The BNP won't win a seat, but this incidident will win them more votes imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 The BNP won't win a seat, but this incidident will win them more votes imo. What a surprise! Nazi Boy Stanley defending the BNP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 If he wasn't a BNP candidate that would never have happened. True. They bigged up to him because of who he was and what he represents and got slapped for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishsaint83 Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Conclusive proof that Gordon Brown is a LIAR on immigration. "British jobs for British workers" So let's look at the facts... BRITISH JOBS PLEDGE SHATTERED AS 98% GIVEN TO IMMIGRANTS Official figures revealed that more than nine out 10 of the 1.7 million jobs added to the economy since 1997 have gone to workers from overseas http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/167882/British-jobs-pledge-shattered-as-98-given-to-immigrants MASS IMMIGRATION IS A DISASTER AND LABOUR IS TO BLAME Now the full extent of Brown’s lie has been exposed by new official figures showing how badly home-grown employment has suffered from mass immigration. According to the Office of National Statistics, almost every single new vacancy in the economy since 1997 has effectively gone to a foreigner When UK passports are dished out at the rate of 200,000 a year the once-proud concept of British citizenship has long since lost its meaning. But that is the way Labour wants it. The socialist Government, filled with loathing for our national identity, has used mass immigration as a battering ram to destroy the traditional structure of Britain. The economic arguments used by Labour politicians to justify their policy of open borders were always just a smokescreen. All the hollow claims about jobs and growth hid the feverish Left- wing determination to create “a new social order”, in the immortal words of Harriet Harman. One of Tony Blair’s aides, Andrew Neather, admitted that Labour’s enthusiasm for mass immigration was not based on economics but on the desire “to rub the right’s nose in diversity” http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/168165/Mass-immigration-is-a-disaster-and-Labour-is-to-blame I was going to vote Tory but not any more, i'm voting for the BNP because i'm so angry at what the Socialists have done to this country. First off all, 98% of jobs havn't gone to immigrants. 9.7% of people employed in the UK are born overseas. Thats a blanket figure of some 3.7 Million and has no underlying breakdown. This can be worked out youself by getting the figures from here: (http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbase/tsdtables1.asp?vlnk=lms) Since Q1 1997, there has been an increase in the number of people in employment in the UK of about 2.7 Million, not 1.7Million. Overseas born people account for just shy of 66% of that, not 98%. Again, you can get all these figure from the above link. What these figures don't tell us is how many of these people were born to expatriot parents and how many of these people where here before Labour coming to power in 1997. No question about it, that would reduce the figure further, but it can not be quantified. No, when you calculate the estimated (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5239054.stm) figures of Britons repatriating and Britons immigrating abroad, a further 871,000 jobs became available since 1997 and based on official statistics, were filled by UK Born workers. In Q2 2006 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/5320750.stm) 1.3 Million people retired. meaning an extra 1.3 Million jobs became available in just 3 months of 2006. Assuming that to be an extremely high Quater for retirement, why don't we reduce the average by 95% or very generously estimate that the average retirement numbers per Quater were 65,000. That means a further 3.5 Million jobs became available in that time period which by official stats, shows us that during the Labour years, at least 75% of all job vacancies, including new jobs were filled by British Born people. The source data of the below image can not be correct because Q4 2009, the official employment numbers in the UK were 25.2 Million UK Born and 3.7 Million Overseas Born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishsaint83 Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Other party's also get involved as well.... John Prescott's punch ring any bells?? was that something to do with an egg? remember recently Cameron got an egg thrown at him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonraker Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 The fact they are legally constituted (just) does not give them legitimacy, Griffin is an attention seeking oik whose Cambridge education has equipped him to lead a bunch of ill informed irresponsible thugs. Immigration is an excuse for the NON-WORKING-CLASS to justify their idleness. They do not and never could represent the real working class of our great nation. BNP = Bunch of Nasty Pr**ks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 The fact they are legally constituted (just) does not give them legitimacy, Griffin is an attention seeking oik whose Cambridge education has equipped him to lead a bunch of ill informed irresponsible thugs. Immigration is an excuse for the NON-WORKING-CLASS to justify their idleness. They do not and never could represent the real working class of our great nation. BNP = Bunch of Nasty Pr**ks Maybe so, but they're the only party that is making a serious effort to address an issue that is important to a lot of working class British people - too much immigration into the UK and the swamping of particular areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 That video is absolutely despicable, if you're a canvassing politician you're supposed to be an example to your consituency, not picking fights with passing people. Fair enough he was intimidated and spat on, but who threw the first punch? If he was a better man he would've accepted the spitting, got other people to move them on instead of getting involved himself (presumably there was security/bouncers there, it's the BNP ffs). Would be interested to see the full footage to see what happened just before that clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I'd like to hear View From The Tops views on this. We might not agree on much but we both believe in democracy, so i'm sure he'd agree that spitting in a cadidates face is completely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I'd like to hear View From The Tops views on this. We might not agree on much but we both believe in democracy, so i'm sure he'd agree that spitting in a cadidates face is completely unacceptable. Of course it is. The BNP are a political party like it or not and spitting is just 'kin gross and I'd have ***ted him as well. Your friends in the NF, like you, are white supremacist scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I'd like to hear View From The Tops views on this. We might not agree on much but we both believe in democracy, so i'm sure he'd agree that spitting in a cadidates face is completely unacceptable. Spitting in a candidate's face is unacceptable, but so is landing a f*cking haymaker on a group of voters while you're being recorded by a news crew. Bob was obviously harking back to his NF days there, shame he didn't have his bovver boots on when he was punching and kicking a young lad on the floor for something as trivial as getting spat on. They're stupid for thinking that there wasn't going to be violence in an area as ethnically diverse as there, unbelievable. That's why Griffin has to hire 30 security guards every time he pops to Tesco for a pint of milk ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Of course it is. The BNP are a political party like it or not and spitting is just 'kin gross and I'd have ***ted him as well. Your friends in the NF, like you, are white supremacist scum. I am senseing anger young VFTT. Remember, a Jedi's strength flows from the Force. But beware. Anger, fear, aggression. The dark side are they. Once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 He was spat at so I don't blame him for retaliating. Agree. I'm sorry, but spitting is absolutely disgusting. Reverse the situation - if it was a white person who spat on an group of radicals at an islamic march then it be front page, middle page, back page, the lot. It'll be the only thing on TV almost everywhere and no doubt Sky would be running polls like "Is Britain a racist country?" and "Should the person who spat be jailed?" and so forth. This has slipped somewhat under the radar because it is the BNP. Maybe deservedly so... but I can't help but think things would have been different if it were the other way around... just my opinion. Irrespective, I challenge anyone not to swing for someone if they spat at you. Whether it's the BNP or a hippie, it's a pretty testing situation to not lose it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 i challenge anyone not to spit at nick griffin if they saw him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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