Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 19 April, 2010 Posted 19 April, 2010 To be fair he has a point though. Why should we give aid to other countries when we could spend the money here? Compassion for your fellow man? Maybe there is a touch of the Wilberforce in me, but the UK (generally speaking) is a 'well off' nation and can afford, even in the current economic climate, to help out those who are less fortunate than us.
TopGun Posted 19 April, 2010 Posted 19 April, 2010 To be fair he has a point though. Why should we give aid to other countries when we could spend the money here? I assume you believe in free trade Dune? Or are you asking for socialist measures that the BNP are suggesting?
dune Posted 19 April, 2010 Posted 19 April, 2010 I assume you believe in free trade Dune? Or are you asking for socialist measures that the BNP are suggesting? I agree with Free Trade. Anyone would think you're trying to convert me.
Patrick Bateman Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 I can see the BNP ( and UKIP ) making real headway in this election, with the possibility of quite a few seats. What are peoples thoughts on this? Also, where/when is a list of candidates announced? I assume that BNP won't bother standing in Romsey? I can't. All 3 parties are offering tougher stances on immigration. Therefore, any "tactical" voters will be more easily swayed than having to stoop so low as to vote BNP. The BNP policies are laughable (yes, I read them as well) ... so superficial, with no substance at all (should I have expected any?). It's like a wishlist that you could write on some note paper. "We want British jobs for British people" Great statement. Tell me how? Tell me why? Tell me how much it'll cost? Tell me how it benefits the economy? Tell me how extra tax it'll raise? Tell me about how we avoid being chastised by Europe for not adhering to Equal Rights? etc. A very simple example in itself, but you get the idea.
Thedelldays Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 "We want British jobs for British people" . didnt labour say the same a while ago
IamLeGod Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 To be fair he has a point though. Why should we give aid to other countries when we could spend the money here? Many countries who we provide aid to have either suffered a massive natural disaster (ie haiti etc.) who in times like these underdeveloped countries end up needing as much help as possible. Or would you rather thousands and thousands of people without food water or electricity went dying? Or would you rather give that £50,000 to kick some nasty johnny foreigner out of the country? A large proportion of the other countries we give aid to (ie African countries) are countries we owe a debt of duty to. Many of these countries are countries that we absolutely raped and pillaged during the expansion of the British Empire. WE stripped countries of large amounts of their natural resources and then imprisoned and sold their people onto slavery. But who cares about that? I'm proud to be British, bring back the empire! Right?
IamLeGod Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 This is a local country, for local people ! Haha brilliant!
Hatch Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 Only found out yesterday that there is a BNP candidate standing in my constituency. Not seen him canvassing around my road yet. Which reminds me, at the last election, the BNP did their leaftlet drop at about 2 in the morning. Wonder why they did that, do they still sneak about in the shadows?
Sour Mash Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 The BNP and Griffin are a useless bunch of idiots. Which is a pity, as real issues regarding immigration and multi-culturism will never be properly addressed by the 3 main parties.
the saint in winchester Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 Says you. Not what the facts say....93% of new jobs in the last 12 months have gone to IMMIGRANTS. That's because they WANT to work whereas so many here are more focused on benefits!
Block 5 Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 Only found out yesterday that there is a BNP candidate standing in my constituency. Not seen him canvassing around my road yet. Which reminds me, at the last election, the BNP did their leaftlet drop at about 2 in the morning. Wonder why they did that, do they still sneak about in the shadows? I was disappointed to see that they're standing in Salisbury too. I will burst the nose of any BNP scum who knock on my door. The candidate here hasn't published his home address on any election literature and I can't find him on the leaked BNP membership list however his family have a local business that will inevitably bear the brunt of any anti BNP backlash. I'm not sure if the BNP membership list can still be downloaded. It is an excellent source of information for those who may wish to 'ask probing questions' regarding policy.
OldNick Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 A large proportion of the other countries we give aid to (ie African countries) are countries we owe a debt of duty to. Many of these countries are countries that we absolutely raped and pillaged during the expansion of the British Empire. WE stripped countries of large amounts of their natural resources and then imprisoned and sold their people onto slavery. But who cares about that? I'm proud to be British, bring back the empire! Right? Dont start that apologist nonsense. How about the Italians paying us money as a duty of care or the Norwegians , or French for what they did during their conquests years ago. Yes pay money to countires in aid but dont wrap it up in the 'we did them bad rubbish' Forget not they sold their own. I was told we are giving aid to China as well, they need it Lol. I may add that we have increased our aid to the African countries , it wouldnt be a case of how the Chinese are cosying up to them as they want to get hold of the commodities of course and we want to compete. I will add that I am more than happy to give to charity but I do resent knowing that most of it does not get to the poor souls I intended it to get to. Arming boy soldiers was not my intent during Live Aid and nor was it geldofs Im sure.
OldNick Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 I was disappointed to see that they're standing in Salisbury too. I will burst the nose of any BNP scum who knock on my door. The candidate here hasn't published his home address on any election literature and I can't find him on the leaked BNP membership list however his family have a local business that will inevitably bear the brunt of any anti BNP backlash. I'm not sure if the BNP membership list can still be downloaded. It is an excellent source of information for those who may wish to 'ask probing questions' regarding policy. I didnt know that Block 5. What business do they own? They have a right to canvass legally and so you should let them.I dislike the Socialist workers party but that doesnt make me wish to attack them. They also IMO are misguided.
Block 5 Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 I didnt know that Block 5. What business do they own? They have a right to canvass legally and so you should let them.I dislike the Socialist workers party but that doesnt make me wish to attack them. They also IMO are misguided. Nick, I don't share your 'laissez-faire' attitude towards fascists. Admittedly I have more invested in multi-culturalism than most. But we all know from our history books that fascism is a bad thing. And we know where seemingly innocuous beginnings can end up. I don't advocate violence towards them (unlike these guys http://www.antifa.org.uk/) but I do believe in disrupting meetings etc so that the fascists are not given a platform. The local candidate in Salisbury is Sean Witheridge. http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/elections/newselectionsgeneralelection2010/news_elections_generalelection2010_candidates/8102079.Sean_Witheridge___British_National_Party/ The family are involved in housebuilding / construction in the local area.
Hatch Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 I'm not sure if the BNP membership list can still be downloaded. It is an excellent source of information for those who may wish to 'ask probing questions' regarding policy. I'm sure if anyone needs it and they ask the right people ( cough, cough ) they could be sent a copy.
Block 5 Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 I'm sure if anyone needs it and they ask the right people ( cough, cough ) they could be sent a copy. They could send their email address to someone via PM. That might work.
dune Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 Nick, I don't share your 'laissez-faire' attitude towards fascists. Admittedly I have more invested in multi-culturalism than most. But we all know from our history books that fascism is a bad thing. And we know where seemingly innocuous beginnings can end up. I don't advocate violence towards them (unlike these guys http://www.antifa.org.uk/) but I do believe in disrupting meetings etc so that the fascists are not given a platform. The local candidate in Salisbury is Sean Witheridge. http://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/elections/newselectionsgeneralelection2010/news_elections_generalelection2010_candidates/8102079.Sean_Witheridge___British_National_Party/ The family are involved in housebuilding / construction in the local area. That website illustrates clearly that there's very little difference between the far left and the far right. You only have to look at how the ANL types march alongside far right islamist extremists to see they are an unprincipled bunch.
dune Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 The BNP and Griffin are a useless bunch of idiots. Which is a pity, as real issues regarding immigration and multi-culturism will never be properly addressed by the 3 main parties. I agree. Looking to the future UKIP needs to change it's name from one which implies it's merely a focus group and from this acorn grow a giant Oak. If there's a hung parliament and PR is brought in this gives us a window of opportunity.
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 That website illustrates clearly that there's very little difference between the far left and the far right. You only have to look at how the ANL types march alongside far right islamist extremists to see they are an unprincipled bunch. Hallo Stanley! Wie sagt man das auf Deutch?
dune Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 Consider this article: The refusal of 21st-century left-wing and liberal opinion to separate itself from radical Islam is, however, a living disgrace with disastrous consequences for Europe. You can see them everywhere if you are willing to look. In January, for instance, Harriet Harman and Ed Miliband attended a "Progressive London" conference packed with the supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood, which believes in the establishment of a totalitarian theocracy. George Galloway, who saluted the courage of Saddam Hussein, was there too, inevitably, as was Tariq Ramadan, the shifty academic who thinks there should only be a "moratorium" on the stoning to death of adulterous women rather than an outright ban. Imagine the fuss if, say, William Hague and Michael Gove had gone to a conference on the future of right-wing politics in London and joined members of the BNP, a far-right politician who had saluted the courage of Augusto Pinochet and an academic who argued for a "moratorium" on black immigration to Britain. The BBC would have exploded. It, along with everyone else, kept quiet, of course, about Harman and Miliband because they were from the Left and therefore could never be beyond the pale. http://www.standpointmag.co.uk/features-march-10-where-the-far-left-joins-the-far-right-nick-cohen-western-guilt
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 Hallo Stanley! Wie sagt man das auf Deutch? Do you really think that Dune is (was) Stanley, Flasman etc the jumped up little fascist?
View From The Top Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 Do you really think that Dune is (was) Stanley, Flasman etc the jumped up little fascist? No doubt about it and he's never denied it.
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 20 April, 2010 Posted 20 April, 2010 Do you really think that Dune is (was) Stanley, Flasman etc the jumped up little fascist? Yes. His racist white power agenda gives him away.
ecuk268 Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 Here's one for Dune to put on his shopping list. http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/bnp-launches-aryan-spread-201004232668/
TopGun Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 Yes. His racist white power agenda gives him away. I don't think Dune was Stanley/Flashman etc. Dune is a right wing nut but can spell and make words into sentences and also doesn't flip out (more than normal). Stanley/Flashman/blah/blah was far different IMO.
Crab Lungs Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 That website illustrates clearly that there's very little difference between the far left and the far right. You only have to look at how the ANL types march alongside far right islamist extremists to see they are an unprincipled bunch. Fookin' hell, was a bit unprepared for that... What a bunch of dreamworld c()nts them lot are... yet, why do I see more condemnation for the far-right than I do for the equally (if not more) odious far-left?
RedAndWhite91 Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 Nick, I don't share your 'laissez-faire' attitude towards fascists. Admittedly I have more invested in multi-culturalism than most. But we all know from our history books that fascism is a bad thing. And we know where seemingly innocuous beginnings can end up. I don't advocate violence towards them (unlike these guys http://www.antifa.org.uk/) but I do believe in disrupting meetings etc so that the fascists are not given a platform. The BNP are a legit political party so advocating disrupting their meetings is surely fascist in itself? I'd advocate disrupting meetings held by Islamic extremists, who are more a danger to our society than any right wing political group.
View From The Top Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 The BNP are a legit political party so advocating disrupting their meetings is surely fascist in itself? I'd advocate disrupting meetings held by Islamic extremists, who are more a danger to our society than any right wing political group. They are extreme right wing themselves which is a point often missed by ANL types.
solentstars Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 Only found out yesterday that there is a BNP candidate standing in my constituency. Not seen him canvassing around my road yet. Which reminds me, at the last election, the BNP did their leaftlet drop at about 2 in the morning. Wonder why they did that, do they still sneak about in the shadows? i expect they are probably robbing someones house nearby seeing they have a lot of crooks with violent history in their party and pedophiles over the years.
Thedelldays Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 i expect they are probably robbing someones house nearby seeing they have a lot of crooks with violent history in their party and pedophiles over the years. ALL MPs are robbing bastards..
solentstars Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 Do you really think that Dune is (was) Stanley, Flasman etc the jumped up little fascist?i thought his postings were alot like that very sad loser stanley:)
solentstars Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 ALL MPs are robbing bastards.. i agree but the bnp have real criminals who have done time:D unlike the elected ones.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 They are extreme right wing themselves which is a point often missed by ANL types. Which makes it all the more odd when whatever the ANL are nowadays, the UAF stand up for extreme Islamic groups when they stand against so-called fascist groups.
IamLeGod Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 Fookin' hell, was a bit unprepared for that... What a bunch of dreamworld c()nts them lot are... yet, why do I see more condemnation for the far-right than I do for the equally (if not more) odious far-left? It's a good point, more people have died under communist rule than have died under fascist rule.
Thedelldays Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 i agree but the bnp have real criminals who have done time:D unlike the elected ones. so have sin fein
TopGun Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 so have sin fein Not correct under law, no matter what you might think. The Good Friday Agreement offered amnesty to convictionists on both sides at that time and wiped their slates clean in many cases. The Tories would have done the same eventually as Major was leading up to it. Although if TDD means petty criminals, then fine.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 Which makes it all the more odd when whatever the ANL are nowadays, the UAF stand up for extreme Islamic groups when they stand against so-called fascist groups. I am still yet to see any CREDIBLE evidence to back up these statements.
Mao Cap Posted 24 April, 2010 Posted 24 April, 2010 Was surprised to get an NF leaflet through the door this morning, knew they were still around but had no idea they fought any elections (let alone in Maidstone which is hardly a hub of racial tension). Claimed that all three parties were in a sinister plot to turn Britain into a communist state, and as evidence provided the statement "look how many ministers are of Eastern European (i.e. MARXIST!!!) extraction!". Umm, quite. Stanley/Dune, you know what this is about? I was completely anywhere of any subversive Russians, Poles, Lithuanians in the Cabinet.
Crab Lungs Posted 28 April, 2010 Posted 28 April, 2010 Finally seen the overly-patriotic (to the extent of feeling a bit sickly) BNP election broadcast (forgive me, I hadn't seen it yet). Whilst we all know what the BNP say (some of it appealing) and what they'd really do, I couldn't help but notice Richard Barnbrook was fashioninng himself on Joseph Goebbels :-o Genuine and innocent use of the 'sand' suit or deliberate fashioning?
buctootim Posted 28 April, 2010 Posted 28 April, 2010 Deliberate use of the background or just fashioning?
RedAndWhite91 Posted 28 April, 2010 Posted 28 April, 2010 I am still yet to see any CREDIBLE evidence to back up these statements. When people wanted to protest against the planned march through Wooton Bassett organised by Islam4UK, didn't the UAF say they'd protest against the protesters (Obviously assuming they'd all be BNP thugs)? I'm not sure on that, but if true, then there's your credible evidence.
GenevaSaint Posted 29 April, 2010 Posted 29 April, 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/29/bnp-non-white-britons-resettlement-grants £50,000 for non whites to leave and who "could go back and help develop their own countries". OMG.
Saint George Posted 29 April, 2010 Posted 29 April, 2010 I was disappointed to see that they're standing in Salisbury too. I will burst the nose of any BNP scum who knock on my door. The candidate here hasn't published his home address on any election literature and I can't find him on the leaked BNP membership list however his family have a local business that will inevitably bear the brunt of any anti BNP backlash. I'm not sure if the BNP membership list can still be downloaded. It is an excellent source of information for those who may wish to 'ask probing questions' regarding policy. hmmmm...I wonder who said this just a couple of weeks back... "I wasn't branding people for disagreeing with me, but rather for having intolerant attitudes." Nice to see the ohhhh so tolerant 'Left,' alive and well....'Hypocrites', "Bigot" branders and apologist's, all nailed to the same glorious 'red flag' in just two days..... And as the once great ship 'Britannia' continues it's voyage with a near uncorrectable List to Port. Half the crew and passengers are still running to that very side to set up their deck chairs....Ooops...didn't do the 'risk assessment'...silly peeps. Keep it up y'all, this is great stuff....Kinda like watching the 'Titanic' movie all over again....Great entertainment, but so sad it's for real. Hope some of you make it off ok graphic by *_deuce_*
Hatch Posted 1 May, 2010 Posted 1 May, 2010 found out today that my local BNP candidate is gay. I just assumed they would be anti-gay party as well.
LGTL Posted 1 May, 2010 Posted 1 May, 2010 hmmmm...I wonder who said this just a couple of weeks back... "I wasn't branding people for disagreeing with me, but rather for having intolerant attitudes." Nice to see the ohhhh so tolerant 'Left,' alive and well....'Hypocrites', "Bigot" branders and apologist's, all nailed to the same glorious 'red flag' in just two days..... And as the once great ship 'Britannia' continues it's voyage with a near uncorrectable List to Port. Half the crew and passengers are still running to that very side to set up their deck chairs....Ooops...didn't do the 'risk assessment'...silly peeps. Keep it up y'all, this is great stuff....Kinda like watching the 'Titanic' movie all over again....Great entertainment, but so sad it's for real. Hope some of you make it off ok graphic by *_deuce_* Behave.
ecuk268 Posted 1 May, 2010 Posted 1 May, 2010 A question to all you Daily Mail and Express reading types... The vast majority of illegal immigrants are not those that sneak across on ferries but people with a visitor's visa who stay on after it has expired. Which nationality tops the league in overstaying?
buctootim Posted 1 May, 2010 Posted 1 May, 2010 A question to all you Daily Mail and Express reading types... The vast majority of illegal immigrants are not those that sneak across on ferries but people with a visitor's visa who stay on after it has expired. Which nationality tops the league in overstaying? Dunno? Aussies?
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