BNP

[SuperMikey]

I have the same view as most other posters on here, that the BNP are only really rising to prominence because of the main parties' weaknesses regarding the main issues. Labour, the Conservatives and the Lib Dems haven't tackled the things that are worrying voters as hard as people think they should have, and although the BNP are promising hard stances on these things, I doubt they'll be able to follow them through. What are they going to do, hunt every illegal immigrant in the country down and deport them themselves?

 

They can deny it all they want, but it still remains that the BNP has racist, fascist roots. Call me cynical, but I think their 'no tolerance' policy on immigration is just Step 1 in their deluded plan to make Britain a purely white country. Some may argue that it's only illegal immigrants that would be removed, but the knock-on effects to ethnic minorities in Britain would be humungous.

 

I'm personally of the opinion that anyone should have the right to live in this country, within reason. If someone's going to have a better quality of life in this country, then there's no reason why they shouldn't be entitled to it. If you were living in a country where you were constantly at risk and your family was in danger every single day, what would you do? Go to a country where there a jobs, peace and a better quality of life, or stay where you are because some middle class people might frown at you for giving yourself and your loved ones a better quality of life?

[IamLeGod]

I have the same view as most other posters on here, that the BNP are only really rising to prominence because of the main parties' weaknesses regarding the main issues. Labour, the Conservatives and the Lib Dems haven't tackled the things that are worrying voters as hard as people think they should have, and although the BNP are promising hard stances on these things, I doubt they'll be able to follow them through. What are they going to do, hunt every illegal immigrant in the country down and deport them themselves?

 

They can deny it all they want, but it still remains that the BNP has racist, fascist roots. Call me cynical, but I think their 'no tolerance' policy on immigration is just Step 1 in their deluded plan to make Britain a purely white country. Some may argue that it's only illegal immigrants that would be removed, but the knock-on effects to ethnic minorities in Britain would be humungous.

 

I'm personally of the opinion that anyone should have the right to live in this country, within reason. If someone's going to have a better quality of life in this country, then there's no reason why they shouldn't be entitled to it. If you were living in a country where you were constantly at risk and your family was in danger every single day, what would you do? Go to a country where there a jobs, peace and a better quality of life, or stay where you are because some middle class people might frown at you for giving yourself and your loved ones a better quality of life?

 

I'm inclined to agree with you. I don't see myself as particularly hippy, but ultimately we are all humans living on the same planet. Nations are creations of man. Why should someone born into a poor, less developed nation be doomed to a life of suffering in squalor and refused the opportunity to make a better life for themself if they are willing to move elsewhere and work for it?

 

I simply cannot understand this irrational fear of immigrants. What makes anyone more entitled to live in a certain area than anyone else? If there was no work in your village/town/city you would move to where there is? So then how can the same principles be perceived as a negative when it comes to people moving across national borders?

[Sour Mash]

I'm personally of the opinion that anyone should have the right to live in this country, within reason. If someone's going to have a better quality of life in this country, then there's no reason why they shouldn't be entitled to it.

 

Lovely idea in theory, but completely impractical and unrealistic in practice. On that basis you think half the population of China should be allowed to move to the South East of England?

[JackFrost]

Can't see the BNP doing much, the majority of their votes are either protest votes or joke votes, and these are much more of a rarity in general elections, compared to European or local elections

 

They'd get a few votes in places like Dagenham and Burnley but would do little elsewhere. The media is united against them, what made me laugh was when Griffin appeared on QT the Mail did a double page spread the same day slating him and everything he stood for. Anything would think they were looking for distance. . . .

 

Griffin made himself look a complete plank on QT anyway, that whole episode of QT was designed to do that. The ironic thing was the person who helped make Nick Griffin look a complete idiot the best was Nick Griffin.

[IamLeGod]

Lovely idea in theory, but completely impractical and unrealistic in practice. On that basis you think half the population of China should be allowed to move to the South East of England?

 

As is what you are suggesting.

 

If half the population of china was to move to South East England, that would represent a population shift of well in excess of 500,000,000 people, almost 10 times the current population of the UK.

 

Realistically, there would be mass over-population and a complete lack of food/jobs/accommodation etc. Health and schooling services would be over-run and therefore the appeal of moving to the UK is greatly lessened as the apparent superior quality of life is non-existent.

 

In such a case people would look elsewhere, or even look to fill the void in there own regions. People seem to assume that the UK is the only place that has immigrants moving to their countries, which is quite false. There also seems to be an idea (played up by groups such as the BNP or even the NF) that we are over run by immigrants. Which again is simply false, hyped media rubbish stirred up by the Daily Mail to sell papers to their xenophobic ignorant readership base and the BNP to further their own goals.

 

There is a clue in the name 'Ethnic Minorities', they are just that, a minority.

[Sour Mash]

As is what you are suggesting.

 

If half the population of china was to move to South East England, that would represent a population shift of well in excess of 500,000,000 people, almost 10 times the current population of the UK.

 

Realistically, there would be mass over-population and a complete lack of food/jobs/accommodation etc. Health and schooling services would be over-run and therefore the appeal of moving to the UK is greatly lessened as the apparent superior quality of life is non-existent.

 

In such a case people would look elsewhere, or even look to fill the void in there own regions. People seem to assume that the UK is the only place that has immigrants moving to their countries, which is quite false. There also seems to be an idea (played up by groups such as the BNP or even the NF) that we are over run by immigrants. Which again is simply false, hyped media rubbish stirred up by the Daily Mail to sell papers to their xenophobic ignorant readership base and the BNP to further their own goals.

 

There is a clue in the name 'Ethnic Minorities', they are just that, a minority.

 

You completely miss my point. My post was in response to the one stating that it was simply a case of if an individual felt they were going to have a better quality of life, then they should be allowed to move to this country. So if half the population of China or Africa decided tomorrow that in their own opinion it would improve their quality of life, then they should be allowed to move to the South East tommorrow (regardless of whether it did actually improve their quality of life or not).

 

My point is that regardless of whether you are "for" or "against" immigration, any one with common sense agrees that there must be some sort of restriction on immigration into the country. It is simply at what point does that immigration level become "too much". My personal opinion is that parts of England have reached that point over the last 20/30 years. That doesn't make me a racist and I won't be voting for the BNP, but I can certainly understand the frustrations of many of those that will vote for them.

[SuperMikey]

Lovely idea in theory, but completely impractical and unrealistic in practice. On that basis you think half the population of China should be allowed to move to the South East of England?

 

Of course not, which is why I said 'within reason' at the start of my post. Perhaps I should've elaborated on that.

I'm not saying that i'd be perfectly a-ok if the entirety of the world's suffering turned up in Hampshire, but then that will never happen as although many people out there are suffering, they don't necessarily want to leave their lives behind.

 

It is a completely impractical idea, but it's not meant to be something that's put into practice.

[buctootim]

We should be trying to reduce the population of the UK imo. It makes no sense to import more people when there is already a shortage of affordable housing, unemployment, congestion on the roads and lack 'wild' accessible public open space.

[Sour Mash]

Of course not, which is why I said 'within reason' at the start of my post. Perhaps I should've elaborated on that.

I'm not saying that i'd be perfectly a-ok if the entirety of the world's suffering turned up in Hampshire, but then that will never happen as although many people out there are suffering, they don't necessarily want to leave their lives behind.

 

It is a completely impractical idea, but it's not meant to be something that's put into practice.

 

Fair enough. So how would you measure "within reason"? What for you would be an acceptable level of immigration into the UK?

[Saintandy666]

I think the BNP might get Barking... but I doubt it, though of course the boundary changes in that constituency mean that it is more likely they will get that seat. The idea of Nick Griffin MP MEP, scares me a little bit.

 

UKIP may get in in Buckingham, depends on the next 4 weeks to be honest, but apart from that, I think they will just have the effect of there being more Labour and/or Lib Dem seats, as they will just nick Tory voters.

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

I have the same view as most other posters on here, that the BNP are only really rising to prominence because of the main parties' weaknesses regarding the main issues. Labour, the Conservatives and the Lib Dems haven't tackled the things that are worrying voters as hard as people think they should have, and although the BNP are promising hard stances on these things, I doubt they'll be able to follow them through. What are they going to do, hunt every illegal immigrant in the country down and deport them themselves?

 

They can deny it all they want, but it still remains that the BNP has racist, fascist roots. Call me cynical, but I think their 'no tolerance' policy on immigration is just Step 1 in their deluded plan to make Britain a purely white country. Some may argue that it's only illegal immigrants that would be removed, but the knock-on effects to ethnic minorities in Britain would be humungous.

 

I'm personally of the opinion that anyone should have the right to live in this country, within reason. If someone's going to have a better quality of life in this country, then there's no reason why they shouldn't be entitled to it. If you were living in a country where you were constantly at risk and your family was in danger every single day, what would you do? Go to a country where there a jobs, peace and a better quality of life, or stay where you are because some middle class people might frown at you for giving yourself and your loved ones a better quality of life?

 

SuperMikey your moral integrity cannot be doubted but where everyone live? What about food security? water? What will they all do; over supply of labour will push wages down and unemployment up. What about services? What about pensions? We are an Island.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

We should be trying to reduce the population of the UK imo. It makes no sense to import more people when there is already a shortage of affordable housing, unemployment, congestion on the roads and lack 'wild' accessible public open space.

 

Good point so how should it be done?

 

Realistically by controlling immigration, not the mickey mouse style as recently practiced by all governments but something that is sustainable?

Encouraging birth control amongst ALL the current population?

 

Or by way out wild west policies such as repatriation?

 

Do the BNP espouse repatriation? Or do they have a spin phrase for it?

[dune]

Conclusive proof that Gordon Brown is a LIAR on immigration.

 

"British jobs for British workers"

 

So let's look at the facts...

 

 

BRITISH JOBS PLEDGE SHATTERED AS 98% GIVEN TO IMMIGRANTS

 

Official figures revealed that more than nine out 10 of the 1.7 million jobs added to the economy since 1997 have gone to workers from overseas

 

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/167882/British-jobs-pledge-shattered-as-98-given-to-immigrants

 

MASS IMMIGRATION IS A DISASTER AND LABOUR IS TO BLAME

 

Now the full extent of Brown’s lie has been exposed by new official figures showing how badly home-grown employment has suffered from mass immigration. According to the Office of National Statistics, almost every single new vacancy in the economy since 1997 has effectively gone to a foreigner

 

When UK passports are dished out at the rate of 200,000 a year the once-proud concept of British citizenship has long since lost its meaning. But that is the way Labour wants it. The socialist Government, filled with loathing for our national identity, has used mass immigration as a battering ram to destroy the traditional structure of Britain. The economic arguments used by Labour politicians to justify their policy of open borders were always just a smokescreen.

 

All the hollow claims about jobs and growth hid the feverish Left- wing determination to create “a new social order”, in the immortal words of Harriet Harman. One of Tony Blair’s aides, Andrew Neather, admitted that Labour’s enthusiasm for mass immigration was not based on economics but on the desire “to rub the right’s nose in diversity”

 

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/168165/Mass-immigration-is-a-disaster-and-Labour-is-to-blame

 

I was going to vote Tory but not any more, i'm voting for the BNP because i'm so angry at what the Socialists have done to this country.

Edited 9 April, 2010 by dune

[Gingeletiss]

We should be trying to reduce the population of the UK imo. It makes no sense to import more people when there is already a shortage of affordable housing, unemployment, congestion on the roads and lack 'wild' accessible public open space.

 

 

Add to that, the infrastructure of the utilities....'water shortages' :smt107 in a temperate climate! We struggle now to supply enough power, we can't get rid of our waste!, road system collapsing, long waits for medical treatment. This Island can not support any more, taxes will continue to rise, to pay for all these 'newcomers', you youngsters will be working until you're 70, to get a pension, if then!

[Gingeletiss]

Source?

 

As Dune has posted.....

 

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...-to-immigrants

[Doctoroncall]

I have the same view as most other posters on here, that the BNP are only really rising to prominence because of the main parties' weaknesses regarding the main issues. Labour, the Conservatives and the Lib Dems haven't tackled the things that are worrying voters as hard as people think they should have, ...

 

I think the opposite, the main parties haven't addressed the ONE issue that BNP has and that is immigration itself. This has caused a vacuum in the immigration debate which the BNP are happy to fill with their version of the state of britain to fuel (IMHO) fear and prejudice of the minorities.

 

If the main parties actually engaged in the debate there would at least be choices for people to decide on based on more balanced and varied information on the topic.

[Baj]

As Dune has posted.....

 

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...-to-immigrants

 

Ruddy hell, well apologies for thinking you were taking that figure out of thin air!

 

Whilst I'm sure those figures are correct, they must be boosted by high rates in particular high-population areas, but whatever way you look at it, thats ****ing shocking and a disgrace.

[TopGun]

I was going to vote Tory but not any more, i'm voting for the BNP because i'm so angry at what the Socialists have done to this country.

 

Once again I refer Dune to comments made by Tebbit who calls the BNP a Socialist Party.

 

Not sure Dune gets much of this stuff, mind!

 

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/normantebbit/100022233/the-left-wing-bnp-could-cost-labour-seats-at-the-general-election/

[miserableoldgit]

Politics and Religion!:mad: With both of these it`s a case of "If you don`t agree with what I think, then you are wrong!" Cynical? Me? Never!

[ecuk268]

A word of caution. It refers to foreign born, not immigrants.

 

So if you were born in Spain when your mum was on holiday, you would be included. The other missing data is when did these people arrive in the UK. Some of them could have been here for 40 years.

 

There is no split between EU and non-EU so how many are EU citizens making use of the freedom to work in any EU country (as do thousands of UK citizens)?

 

Also, increased immigration creates jobs as more people create demand for goods and services and therefore people have to be employed to provide them.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

It does not help when the system is structured so that employers find it easier to outsource, agency, oppose to employ direct, I would be interested to see how many of these jobs added to the economy were not outsourced.

[sadoldgit]

Interesting debate about jobs and "immigrants". Did you see the programme on a while ago where the Brits were workshy and the "immigrants" got on with what they needed to do?

 

By the way, we are all techically "immigrants". The USA, Australia, the UK, we all became what we are through immigration. We opened the doors to mass immiration in the 50's and brought in people who were prepared to do the jobs that the Brits didn't fancy. Pretty much the same is happening now with Eastern Europenas doing what the West Indians did.

 

By the way, the incoming figures need to be balance with the outgoing. Plenty of people emmigate too.

 

There is a debate to be had on immigration control, but a sensible debate based on facts and not the racist scare mongering that the BNP perpetrate.

 

Okay, so the major parties have not covered themselves in glory, but to give your vote to a racists outfit on that basis is chilling. Apart from what they will do with immigration (deportation?) can you imagine them let loose on the economy and other major issues?

 

God help us.

[Berkshire Saint]

Neither will come anywhere near to gaining a seat. One of the few good things about the FPTP system...

[Pancake]

I'm glad to see the BNP can get the important things like spelling 'Great Britain' correct on their Twitter feed bio.

 

http://twitter.com/bnp

 

Oh

[miserableoldgit]

Interesting debate about jobs and "immigrants". Did you see the programme on a while ago where the Brits were workshy and the "immigrants" got on with what they needed to do?

 

By the way, we are all techically "immigrants". The USA, Australia, the UK, we all became what we are through immigration. We opened the doors to mass immiration in the 50's and brought in people who were prepared to do the jobs that the Brits didn't fancy. Pretty much the same is happening now with Eastern Europenas doing what the West Indians did.

 

By the way, the incoming figures need to be balance with the outgoing. Plenty of people emmigate too.

 

There is a debate to be had on immigration control, but a sensible debate based on facts and not the racist scare mongering that the BNP perpetrate.

 

Okay, so the major parties have not covered themselves in glory, but to give your vote to a racists outfit on that basis is chilling. Apart from what they will do with immigration (deportation?) can you imagine them let loose on the economy and other major issues?

 

God help us.

Do you not think that a noticeable increase in support for parties such as the BNP might send a message to the mainstream parties?

[Gingeletiss]

Interesting debate about jobs and "immigrants". Did you see the programme on a while ago where the Brits were workshy and the "immigrants" got on with what they needed to do?

 

By the way, we are all techically "immigrants". The USA, Australia, the UK, we all became what we are through immigration. We opened the doors to mass immiration in the 50's and brought in people who were prepared to do the jobs that the Brits didn't fancy. Pretty much the same is happening now with Eastern Europenas doing what the West Indians did.

 

By the way, the incoming figures need to be balance with the outgoing. Plenty of people emmigate too.

 

There is a debate to be had on immigration control, but a sensible debate based on facts and not the racist scare mongering that the BNP perpetrate.

 

Okay, so the major parties have not covered themselves in glory, but to give your vote to a racists outfit on that basis is chilling. Apart from what they will do with immigration (deportation?) can you imagine them let loose on the economy and other major issues?

 

God help us.

 

So! in your world, and others on here, if you are against immigration on the scale that Labour have allowed, then you are a racist. Mental:mad:

[Sheaf Saint]

So! in your world, and others on here, if you are against immigration on the scale that Labour have allowed, then you are a racist. Mental:mad:

 

I've read his post back a couple of times and I'm 100% certain that is not what he is saying at all. Seems to me that he is just pointing out that despite their protestations, the BNP are a bunch of convicted racists, and that a vote for them because you disagree with the amount of immigration over the last decade or so is highly irrational.

[View From The Top]

The BNP in Stoke Central. http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/apr/08/election-bnp-stoke-immigration

[Gingeletiss]

I've read his post back a couple of times and I'm 100% certain that is not what he is saying at all. Seems to me that he is just pointing out that despite their protestations, the BNP are a bunch of convicted racists, and that a vote for them because you disagree with the amount of immigration over the last decade or so is highly irrational.

 

I'm not denying that some of them are 'racist', however, as has been pointed out by several posters on here...none of the mainstream party's have the balls to address the issue. Therefore, the likes of the BNP will continue to gain votes, until such-time, that the issue is addressed. When NG was on question time, he was shouted down because of who he was, but none of the others would address the core issue. Hate him if you must, but he is saying what many are thinking.

[Arizona]

I'm not denying that some of them are 'racist', however, as has been pointed out by several posters on here...none of the mainstream party's have the balls to address the issue. Therefore, the likes of the BNP will continue to gain votes, until such-time, that the issue is addressed. When NG was on question time, he was shouted down because of who he was, but none of the others would address the core issue. Hate him if you must, but he is saying what many are thinking.

 

Perhaps ironically not what he was thinking. The Nick Griffin on QT seemed like an extremely watered down version of the man we all know and love. They may well have better answers to some of the issues the mainstream parties tiptoe around, however there is no getting away from the fact that most of them are just biggoted racists with a whole bag of chips on their shoulders.

[Thedelldays]

the BNP could be toast quite easily, IF (big IF) people like BEXY and co stop the default response of "RACIST" to anyone who dares to question the levels of immigration into this country

and maybe the big parties MIGHT actually talk about it without being shouted down by the george galloways of this world

it MUST be an issue to more than a handfull of people as the BNP are bigger than ever before (which is sad)

[Saint_clark]

People hide behind the "i'm fed up of the lot in charge right now" excuse when they vote for the BNP, but there are other parties out there to vote for if you want to make a statement - the Green Party for one.

[sadoldgit]

So! in your world, and others on here, if you are against immigration on the scale that Labour have allowed, then you are a racist. Mental:mad:

 

Sorry I don't understand you. I am pro immigratation but controlled immigration. There is a huge racist issue going on in the immigartion debate and that is what I am against. How is that either mental or mad - unless you hate "Johnny Foreigners"?

[View From The Top]

By denying that a growing swathe of the population have genuine fears about immigration the main stream parties are doing the BNP's recruiting for them.

 

It is not racist to question immigration but it is ignorant to label anyone who does question it racist.

[Saint_clark]

By denying that a growing swathe of the population have genuine fears about immigration the main stream parties are doing the BNP's recruiting for them.

 

It is not racist to question immigration but it is ignorant to label anyone who does question it racist.

 

In trying to be too PC these parties are, as you say, making it easy for the BNP.

What someone needs to do is step back and say the things that the others are too afraid to say, but without the complete deportation policies of Griffin and co.

I see one of their policies is to "offer generous grants to those immigrants in residence here who wish to leave the country". How anyone could vote for that is beyond me.

[Sheaf Saint]

the BNP could be toast quite easily, IF (big IF) people like BEXY and co stop the default response of "RACIST" to anyone who dares to question the levels of immigration into this country

and maybe the big parties MIGHT actually talk about it without being shouted down by the george galloways of this world

it MUST be an issue to more than a handfull of people as the BNP are bigger than ever before (which is sad)

 

Hang on a second Delldays, you need to read my posts again and read what I actually said and not just what you think or want me to have said.

 

I am definitely NOT one of those people that automatically shouts racist at people. Absolutely not; it really irks me when I hear people throwing that term around without actually understanding either the true meaning of the word or the actual attitude of the person who they throw the accusation at.

 

However, I will state without fear of contradiction that the BNP are a bunch of racists - as proved by the criminal convictions of some of their members. That does not mean that anybody who votes for them is, ergo, racist themselves and I have never made such an assertion.

 

My only wish is that more people who consider the BNP to be a credible alternative to the major parties, based on nothing more than their stance on immigration, should do a little research and understand the history and true agenda of what is essentially a legitimised white supremacist group.

 

Please don't twist my words and accuse me of things which are absolutely not true.

[miserableoldgit]

I've read his post back a couple of times and I'm 100% certain that is not what he is saying at all. Seems to me that he is just pointing out that despite their protestations, the BNP are a bunch of convicted racists, and that a vote for them because you disagree with the amount of immigration over the last decade or so is highly irrational.

Why is it irrational?? If it is something that you feel stongly about and the major parties seem, on the face of it, to be doing nothing about it, then surely you will go with the party that makes your concerns a priority. It may be, in the cicumstances, undesirable, but not irrational. Isn`t freedom of choice what democracy is supposed to be about??

[Thedelldays]

Hang on a second Delldays, you need to read my posts again and read what I actually said and not just what you think or want me to have said.

 

I am definitely NOT one of those people that automatically shouts racist at people. Absolutely not; it really irks me when I hear people throwing that term around without actually understanding either the true meaning of the word or the actual attitude of the person who they throw the accusation at.

 

However, I will state without fear of contradiction that the BNP are a bunch of racists - as proved by the criminal convictions of some of their members. That does not mean that anybody who votes for them is, ergo, racist themselves and I have never made such an assertion.

 

My only wish is that more people who consider the BNP to be a credible alternative to the major parties, based on nothing more than their stance on immigration, should do a little research and understand the history and true agenda of what is essentially a legitimised white supremacist group.

 

Please don't twist my words and accuse me of things which are absolutely not true.

 

again..so many (clearly) dont agree with you...keep alienating them and the BNP will grow...well done you

[Sheaf Saint]

For the record Delldays, I too am not entirely happy about the previous open-door policy of the current Labour government (which has now been reversed if people actually bother to check) but I just don't consider it one of the most important issues when deciding who to vote for.

 

My stance is precisely that of Sadoldgit's above; I am in favour of immigration as I believe people should be allowed to live and work wherever they please, but it should be controlled immigration. By that I mean we should be making it less attractive for such large numbers of immigrant workers to come here to work by doing away with benefits such as child-support payments for children still living in their home land.

 

The BNP's proposal is to stop all immigration completely and to deport many immigrants, including some second and third generation, who are already living here. My brother has a thai wife and their son was born in thailand but lives here in London, so under the BNP's scheme he would not be allowed to live here any more and would be forcibly removed back to thailand. So on that basis, and ignoring the racist, violent past of the party members, I could never vote for a party that proposed such a radical change to immigration in this country.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

again..so many (clearly) dont agree with you...keep alienating them and the BNP will grow...well done you

 

If people can't see the BNP for what they are, then they are beyond help.

[Sheaf Saint]

Why is it irrational?? If it is something that you feel stongly about and the major parties seem, on the face of it, to be doing nothing about it, then surely you will go with the party that makes your concerns a priority. It may be, in the cicumstances, undesirable, but not irrational. Isn`t freedom of choice what democracy is supposed to be about??

 

This is another myth that the BNP like to perpetuate to boost their agenda. If you bother to do some research you will find that the current Labour government HAVE changed their immigration policy quite drastically over the last couple of years.

[Sheaf Saint]

again..so many (clearly) dont agree with you...keep alienating them and the BNP will grow...well done you

 

Do some research on the criminal convictions of the leading members of the BNP, then come back and tell me that I'm wrong if you can.

 

If I am alienating them, as you put it, it is only because I strongly believe that people need to be aware of the hidden agenda of those they are voting for.

[miserableoldgit]

I'm not denying that some of them are 'racist', however, as has been pointed out by several posters on here...none of the mainstream party's have the balls to address the issue. Therefore, the likes of the BNP will continue to gain votes, until such-time, that the issue is addressed. When NG was on question time, he was shouted down because of who he was, but none of the others would address the core issue. Hate him if you must, but he is saying what many are thinking.

This was an absolute farce. If it had been a normal QT with the opportunity for NG to actually debate issues, then he would have been shown up for the one-trick pony that he is. Sadly it was a modern version of "bear-baiting" with every question aimed at the BNP.

[dune]

Once again I refer Dune to comments made by Tebbit who calls the BNP a Socialist Party.

 

Not sure Dune gets much of this stuff, mind!

 

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/normantebbit/100022233/the-left-wing-bnp-could-cost-labour-seats-at-the-general-election/

 

TopGun you don't get it. I vote BNP because they are the most FAR RIGHT of all the parties. I'm disgusted at our open door immigration policy so this is my vote to tell Brown what I think of it.

[Thedelldays]

This is another myth that the BNP like to perpetuate to boost their agenda. If you bother to do some research you will find that the current Labour government HAVE changed their immigration policy quite drastically over the last couple of years.

they have..and to many people (again, quite clearly) far too little, far too late...

 

we all have or have not our own stories of so called immigrants being given preferential treatment in public services...

 

it is not the most important issue to me also, but to others it quite clearly is..

 

I predict a low turnout for BNP this election..but their real elections are more localised...

 

I would normally vote for UKIP..but this time I am going Tory as (imo) labour have to be removed

[miserableoldgit]

This is another myth that the BNP like to perpetuate to boost their agenda. If you bother to do some research you will find that the current Labour government HAVE changed their immigration policy quite drastically over the last couple of years.

The type of person that is generally liable to vote BNP won`t do research. They will base what they will do on their daily experiences and what they read. I`m afraid that they won`t be influenced by having to look for figures etc.

[dune]

Perhaps ironically not what he was thinking. The Nick Griffin on QT seemed like an extremely watered down version of the man we all know and love. They may well have better answers to some of the issues the mainstream parties tiptoe around, however there is no getting away from the fact that most of them are just biggoted racists with a whole bag of chips on their shoulders.

 

Do you remember warren Mitchell playing Alf Garnett? His character was designed by the left wing as a character to be ridiculed - how they got it wrong! Alf Garnett became a cult here because he said what many many people thought. The Left think they are the voice of British people but Alf Garnetts cult status shows that they clearly are not.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

The type of person that is generally liable to vote BNP won`t do research. They will base what they will do on their daily experiences and what they read. I`m afraid that they won`t be influenced by having to look for figures etc.

Are you talking about a regular poster on here by any chance ;-)

[View From The Top]

If people can't see the BNP for what they are, then they are beyond help.

 

As are those who fail to understand why many working class folk are turning towards them.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Do you remember warren Mitchell playing Alf Garnett? His character was designed by the left wing as a character to be ridiculed - how they got it wrong! Alf Garnett became a cult here because he said what many many people thought. The Left think they are the voice of British people but Alf Garnetts cult status shows that they clearly are not.

 

Lol