JackFrost Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 (edited) Yes Bailey was spat at but his reaction was totally disproportionate. You cannot compare that to Prescott a few years ago. Yes, Prescott landed a left jab but he was pulled away in the chaos. Bailey was still punching and kicking the blokes 20 seconds after he was spat at, well after his initial reaction. I think that scene of the BNP candidate punching and kicking an Asian man whilst he is down on the floor is going to become quite a symbolic scene for the media. . . Edited 6 May, 2010 by JackFrost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Agree. I'm sorry, but spitting is absolutely disgusting. Reverse the situation - if it was a white person who spat on an group of radicals at an islamic march then it be front page, middle page, back page, the lot. It'll be the only thing on TV almost everywhere and no doubt Sky would be running polls like "Is Britain a racist country?" and "Should the person who spat be jailed?" and so forth. This has slipped somewhat under the radar because it is the BNP. Maybe deservedly so... but I can't help but think things would have been different if it were the other way around... just my opinion. Irrespective, I challenge anyone not to swing for someone if they spat at you. Whether it's the BNP or a hippie, it's a pretty testing situation to not lose it... Yes, but white people have never spat at black people, so we'll probably never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 i challenge anyone not to spit at nick griffin if they saw him If I was close enough to him to spit, I'd be too busy fighting the gagging reflex to raise the spittle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 What about the countless racial attacks that occur every single day. Go to estates in Bradford or Burnley and watch how the vile, disgusting hateful little ****s that harass, bully, demean and demoralise anyone of an ethnic background on a daily basis. But no that doesnt make news either. Let's not look at extremes for a moment here. Let's look at the things that occur everyday. What do you think life is like for these people? How do you think they feel when you have BNP f**kwits running around their community saying they are going to deport them at the first chance they get? Demonising them for every that is wrong with this country and undermining their belief system for the whole world to see. But yeah, The BNP guy was clearly in the Right, spouting his loathesome ignorant inciteful bull****, with a group of meathead roughians to back him up. F**k off out of MY country. This country is not about you, and this country fought two world wars to defeat people like you. Frankly if i met a BNP leader i'd do a lot more than spit at him, it takes everything in me to not spit at people when they say they would vote BNP. How anyone can defend them is completely beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 What about the countless racial attacks that occur every single day. Go to estates in Bradford or Burnley and watch how the vile, disgusting hateful little ****s that harass, bully, demean and demoralise anyone of an ethnic background on a daily basis. But no that doesnt make news either. Let's not look at extremes for a moment here. Let's look at the things that occur everyday. What do you think life is like for these people? How do you think they feel when you have BNP f**kwits running around their community saying they are going to deport them at the first chance they get? Demonising them for every that is wrong with this country and undermining their belief system for the whole world to see. But yeah, The BNP guy was clearly in the Right, spouting his loathesome ignorant inciteful bull****, with a group of meathead roughians to back him up. F**k off out of MY country. This country is not about you, and this country fought two world wars to defeat people like you. Frankly if i met a BNP leader i'd do a lot more than spit at him, it takes everything in me to not spit at people when they say they would vote BNP. How anyone can defend them is completely beyond me. I think you are being unfair. You are comapring the BNP with the old Nazis and that's wrong wrong wrong. Have you seen the bnp's litter picking articles? They cleared coke cans and bottles and tins and cans and rubber johnies from a verge and now it's a all daffodils and a place for kiddies to play. This is not the work of vile horrible nazis now is it, c'mon give some credit to these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I would treat a BNP member the same as I would treat a member of the UAF, EDL, islam4uk and any other race hate groups.. treat them with utter contempt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Forgive me, but I was wondering what he actually said? Was he inciting trouble? Was he spoken to at first? I might be in the wrong in which case I'll hold my hands up. But it appears the video only cuts in mid conversation... Does anyone actually know how it all started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I think you are being unfair. You are comapring the BNP with the old Nazis and that's wrong wrong wrong. Have you seen the bnp's litter picking articles? They cleared coke cans and bottles and tins and cans and rubber johnies from a verge and now it's a all daffodils and a place for kiddies to play. This is not the work of vile horrible nazis now is it, c'mon give some credit to these people. No. Im not comparing them to Nazi's. We went to War to fight against ignorant narrow minded inward looking, xenophobic, racist paranoid ideas. Every single word that comes out of a BNP activists mouth is totally despicable. And actually dune you have once more missed my point. I was referring to the idiots that harass members of ethnic minorities. But its too hard to actually form an argument against this without sounding like a racist isnt it? So you ignore this. Im sick of BNP apologists. They are vile racist malicious scum, and should be treated as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Im sick of BNP apologists. They are vile racist malicious scum, and should be treated as such. I wouldn't classify myself as that, personally if you are also referring to me as an apologist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I think you are being unfair. You are comapring the BNP with the old Nazis and that's wrong wrong wrong. Have you seen the bnp's litter picking articles? They cleared coke cans and bottles and tins and cans and rubber johnies from a verge and now it's a all daffodils and a place for kiddies to play. This is not the work of vile horrible nazis now is it, c'mon give some credit to these people. So you don't think the "horrible nazis" cleaned up areas and looked after their own environment whilst gassing the Jews, Slavs, Homosexuals, mentaly ill etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Forgive me, but I was wondering what he actually said? Was he inciting trouble? Was he spoken to at first? I might be in the wrong in which case I'll hold my hands up. But it appears the video only cuts in mid conversation... Does anyone actually know how it all started? I do, through my nazi contacts i was able get the full story for you all. They didn't want to tell me the truth, but i told them, yes i told them. I told them that ANS was planning to stand in mamchester as mep and piggy nick was gonna get battered in the polls, they shook with fear, they pleaded, and eventually i relented and they spoke. Apparently mr whippy had just been the road and the asian fella had all treated themselves to a screwball, un benownst to the bnp lads who also wanted snowbals. the upshot was that by the time the bnp lads had got to mr whippy all the snowballs had gone and they were not happy, but lucily mr whippy still has some bubble gum and gave them all a bit, which use and you won't believe this but it was magic bubble and the more they blew the bigger the bubble and the bigger the bubble grew the more it got bigger and then ther was a little gust of wind, not a lot, just the sort of gust you see the flatter a crisp packet a few yards and you'll never guess what happens, the bubbles and the bnp lads started to fly, and inch by inch the bubles got bigger and bigger and they didn't pop, up and up the bnp lads flew and disaster, mrs pickles had hung her washing accross the road and fat bnp man got caught on the line, but then it got even worse because at that precise moment mr whippy played the whippy song, when i say the whippy song what it really was was dambusters because MR whippy was abnp icecream man, and out of mrs pickes window flews mrs pickles budgie daphne. now daphne had never flown outside mrs pickles house because daphne was a blind budgie due an unfortunate incident with mr pickles collection hat pins, and out flew daphne straight into thew fat bnp mans bubble. you all know what's coming now don't, with the loudest pop down the fat bnp man staright on the asians youths and so the story unfolded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Dune, could we have that translated into English ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Dune, could we have that translated into English ? mate that's the first story i've ever written and i reckon it was well good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I think you are being unfair. You are comapring the BNP with the old Nazis and that's wrong wrong wrong. Have you seen the bnp's litter picking articles? They cleared coke cans and bottles and tins and cans and rubber johnies from a verge and now it's a all daffodils and a place for kiddies to play. This is not the work of vile horrible nazis now is it, c'mon give some credit to these people. No it's them doing community projects for PR purposes and numpties like you falling for it. The BNP's latest party political broadcast was a chilling flashback to old Nazi propaganda broadcasts I saw years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 No it's them doing community projects for PR purposes and numpties like you falling for it. The BNP's latest party political broadcast was a chilling flashback to old Nazi propaganda broadcasts I saw years ago Do you the logistics for litter picking, the eqipmenst requied and the training need to operate a picker claw? No, thought not, so don't you try and lecture me. Dave Xam will deliver the big socity and country will soon be covered in hanging baskets so mkcu so that ggoogle earth will make britain look like a big geranium, but the BP got there first and when ypu see the benefit and the economic boom as britain moves awy fro banking and becomes the worlds largest honey producer just thoink bacl the BNP and the ;itter [ickign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Forgive me, but I was wondering what he actually said? Was he inciting trouble? Was he spoken to at first? I might be in the wrong in which case I'll hold my hands up. But it appears the video only cuts in mid conversation... Does anyone actually know how it all started? Do the BNP say anything that isnt inciteful? They are by their very nature inciteful. "oh they raise issues that no one else does" - yeah theres a reason other people don't raise them. WE ARE NOT ALL RACIST F***S!! Talking about immigration is fine. The BNP do not do this. They systematically blame migrants for the problems within this country. They talk about deporting people that have been born and bred in this country - it is perfectly conceivable that under proposed BNP policy - someone born in this country, and who has never left the country would be deported. Imagine if every nation in the world took this attitude - where would these people go? Oh and the crowning glory - the BNP had to be forced to open its membership to non-whites. But no of course they are not racist - they are just talking about immigration. Those that believe this need to get a reality check and pull their heads out of the sand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Do you the logistics for litter picking, the eqipmenst requied and the training need to operate a picker claw? No, thought not, so don't you try and lecture me. Dave Xam will deliver the big socity and country will soon be covered in hanging baskets so mkcu so that ggoogle earth will make britain look like a big geranium, but the BP got there first and when ypu see the benefit and the economic boom as britain moves awy fro banking and becomes the worlds largest honey producer just thoink bacl the BNP and the ;itter [ickign. Wasn't he in Star Wars? And don't try and lecture me cos I wouldn't understand a word of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Do the BNP say anything that isnt inciteful? They are by their very nature inciteful. "oh they raise issues that no one else does" - yeah theres a reason other people don't raise them. WE ARE NOT ALL RACIST F***S!! Talking about immigration is fine. The BNP do not do this. They systematically blame migrants for the problems within this country. They talk about deporting people that have been born and bred in this country - it is perfectly conceivable that under proposed BNP policy - someone born in this country, and who has never left the country would be deported. Imagine if every nation in the world took this attitude - where would these people go? Oh and the crowning glory - the BNP had to be forced to open its membership to non-whites. But no of course they are not racist - they are just talking about immigration. Those that believe this need to get a reality check and pull their heads out of the sand Richard Edmonds, a senior BNP official openly said "the BNP is 100% racist" when asked "Is the BNP racist?" by a Guardian journalist. And people still claim they aren't racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Richard Edmonds, a senior BNP official openly said "the BNP is 100% racist" when asked "Is the BNP racist?" by a Guardian journalist. And people still claim they aren't racist. Nah mate - They are just raising issues that no-one else will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Stanley, are you mentally ill or something? You're just spouting gibberish when people are actually making sensible arguments against comments and statements you made and also those of the party you (used to) support. I replied to your comment at the top of the page which you ignored, now you're ignoring IamLeGod as well because we're both making sensible points, but all you can be arsed to do is talk about ice-cream. Either start talking sense and answer questions posed to you or just don't bother posting on this thread, because there's really no point of you posting on this thread and board otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Richard Edmonds, a senior BNP official openly said "the BNP is 100% racist" when asked "Is the BNP racist?" by a Guardian journalist. And people still claim they aren't racist. Of course they are racist. Perhaps people would have more respect for them if they were just totally honest and came out with what they really think about "foreigners" (and surley, by definition, we are all "foreigners" somewhere?) Nasty people, nasty organisation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Wasn't he in Star Wars? And don't try and lecture me cos I wouldn't understand a word of it. No, Dave Xam is a super hero in new caroon strip im constructing, middle aged mutant cyber tories. Jonny is top dave xam (he's the smart one), ducky is osborne (he's the wise one) , hypo is Mr Spin (he has magic powers and when he spins fast it pust lefties in a trance anf they a;; buy people carriers for the one kid school run), and U The architect ddeep in my bunker planning the invasion of Poland so I can use my magic time machine to steralise Mrs RASIAK IN 1976. aND don't you try and lecture me because i won't tolerate disrespect my elders when dave xam builds his big society you can bloody we;; get your axe and chop dowb a tree in the forest cos your winter fuel payments are going on some **** off nuclear missilers. i suggest you start nitting now cps you gonna need a big wpply jumper next winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Nah mate - They are just raising issues that no-one else will. Hilter did that too. Still what is a bit of ethnical cleansing between friends eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 comparing the nick griffin to hitler is stupid....ffs like comparing ken livingstone to stalin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Hilter did that too. Still what is a bit of ethnical cleansing between friends eh? For once it'd be nice if we could put genocide, invasions, social darwinism, gas chambers, abd all the evil sruff that hitler dud to one side. Yes he was a monster and yes helll rit in the fires of hell for all eternity, but lets for once ficus on the good things he did sich as being a brilliant carer for his pet german shepherd roxy, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 comparing the nick griffin to hitler is stupid....ffs like comparing ken livingstone to stalin Well no. Ken doesnt make references to Stalin. Nick Griffin 'Mein Kampf is my bible' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Well no. Ken doesnt make references to Stalin. Nick Griffin 'Mein Kampf is my bible' http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jan/20/london.politicalcolumnists maybe not stalin..but he is a commie at heart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 The reason why people compare Griffin to Hitler is because Griffin and a lot of the BNP hierachy were former members of the National Front, an openly white supremacist group who have open links with neo-Nazism and groups who believe in the biological supremacy of white people, something Hitler promoted. Griffin has also openly criticized the bombing of Nazi Germany, by the RAF. Doesn't do himself many favours does he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 I would compare Nick Griffin to candy floss, it looks **** and it is ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 6 May, 2010 Share Posted 6 May, 2010 Do the BNP say anything that isnt inciteful? They are by their very nature inciteful. "oh they raise issues that no one else does" - yeah theres a reason other people don't raise them. WE ARE NOT ALL RACIST F***S!! Talking about immigration is fine. The BNP do not do this. They systematically blame migrants for the problems within this country. They talk about deporting people that have been born and bred in this country - it is perfectly conceivable that under proposed BNP policy - someone born in this country, and who has never left the country would be deported. Imagine if every nation in the world took this attitude - where would these people go? Oh and the crowning glory - the BNP had to be forced to open its membership to non-whites. But no of course they are not racist - they are just talking about immigration. Those that believe this need to get a reality check and pull their heads out of the sand I know what the BNP say and what they mean are two different things, you really don't have to emphasise that to me. In fact, I even alluded to how Richard Barnbrook seems to model himself on one Joeseph Goebbels... I really do get the impression your tone is quite condescending? Irrespective, trust me, I KNOW what is beyond the BNP if you whip away that very thin, very flimsy veil of respectability... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 A great BIG 'HAHA' to all the Nazis and their supporters in the BNP this morning. You didn't get a seat and got SPANKED in Barking, I hope you rot and die! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 (edited) With increased exposure to the public the BNP have gone backwards. They reckoned they had a chance of winning in Barking and fell short by a mere 18,000 votes lol Even the Tories beat them in a Labour stronghold. I didn't think the BNP would do that much and they haven't even done that, they got stuffed in every single constituency they stood in. Yes the number of people voting for them increased by just under 2% but that's got more to do with how many candidates they put out this time. They had nearly 200 more candidates standing in this election than they did 5 years ago and got only around 10,000 more votes. Pathetic. Edited 7 May, 2010 by JackFrost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 1,217 votes in Watford, really surprised by that though the count has been such a farce it might turn out to be 217. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 (edited) A great BIG 'HAHA' to all the Nazis and their supporters in the BNP this morning. You didn't get a seat and got SPANKED in Barking, I hope you rot and die! :) So much for those on this site who predicted the BNP and UKIP were poised to make a breakthrough! Edited 7 May, 2010 by TopGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 I can see the BNP ( and UKIP ) making real headway in this election, with the possibility of quite a few seats. I think you're Barking up the wrong tree (sorry I'll get my coat). I echo soppyoldsod's comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 With increased exposure to the public the BNP have gone backwards. They reckoned they had a chance of winning in Barking and fell short by a mere 18,000 votes lol Even the Tories beat them in a Labour stronghold. I didn't think the BNP would do that much and they haven't even done that, they got stuffed in every single constituency they stood in. Yes the number of people voting for them increased by just under 2% but that's got more to do with how many candidates they put out this time. They had nearly 200 more candidates standing in this election than they did 5 years ago and got only around 10,000 more votes. Pathetic. My faith in humanity and the intelligence of the normal voters in Barking has risen substantially. They didn't fall for the BS being spun. Lets hope some of this rubs off next time they have council elections (assuming they never had some yesterday). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 :) So much for those on this site who predicted the BNP and UKIP were poised to make a breakthrough! Who predicted that? I saw plenty of Liberals predicting that this was their year though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 1,217 votes in Watford, really surprised by that though the count has been such a farce it might turn out to be 217. South Oxhey.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 My faith in humanity and the intelligence of the normal voters in Barking has risen substantially. They didn't fall for the BS being spun. Lets hope some of this rubs off next time they have council elections (assuming they never had some yesterday). and the BNP's Bob Bailey kicking and punching a asian bloke on the floor will be a symbolic image for the media for many years to come. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 Who predicted that? I saw plenty of Liberals predicting that this was their year though. Look at SRS's opening post on this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 I can see the BNP ( and UKIP ) making real headway in this election, with the possibility of quite a few seats. What are peoples thoughts on this? Also, where/when is a list of candidates announced? I assume that BNP won't bother standing in Romsey? Turns out that SRS was wrong. The BNP and UKIP did not make any headway in this election. The BNP and UKIP combined won a total of zero seats. The fascist dream dies. Oh well. There is always 2015. (Though even the tree-hugging Greens won a seat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 Look at SRS's opening post on this thread! The BNP has lost all 12 councillors in barking and dagenham it's just been announced. I reckon Stu shouldn't give up the day job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 The BNP has lost all 12 councillors in barking and dagenham it's just been announced. I reckon Stu shouldn't give up the day job. Bloody fantastic, what a result all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 The BNP has lost all 12 councillors in barking and dagenham it's just been announced. I reckon Stu shouldn't give up the day job. Frankly, that is fantastic news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 It comes to something when the day after the election that promised so much for the Liberals all you've got cheer about is 12 local councillors losing their seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 It doesnt matter what else happens. I will always cheer about the BNP losing any form of seat. Be it council, Parliament or European Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 It comes to something when the day after the election that promised so much for the Liberals all you've got cheer about is 12 local councillors losing their seats. Says the neo-nazi white supremacist who was telling all comers how the BNP were going to make the country sit up and take notice. Just goes to show that the vast majority aren't racist scum like you Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 It comes to something when the day after the election that promised so much for the Liberals all you've got cheer about is 12 local councillors losing their seats. great result a hung parliment and disgruntled tories:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 Says the person who was telling all comers how the BNP were going to make the country sit up and take notice. No, it's UKIP that will do that if PR ever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 7 May, 2010 Share Posted 7 May, 2010 great result a hung parliment and disgruntled tories:D The best result of the night was Winchester and Romsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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