EU downgrade the English Channel

[dune]

Why not call it 'The French Channel' then? They have as much right to name it after their country as we do Dune...

 

This sea based news story is FAR MORE concerning....

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8602400.stm

 

So by that logic should the South China sea be renamed? What about the gulf of Mexico? The irish sea? The tasman sea? The Indian ocean? The sea of Japan?

 

How arrogant.

[solentstars]

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/167069

 

“A Conservative government will scrap these euro plans and save the English Channel.”

 

=D>

 

This country badly needs thedolphen the gamecube.

 

ha ha you crease me up yes and then we can then rule the world.

all because of the tories:confused::rolleyes::smt071

[dune]

ha ha you crease me up yes and then we can then rule the world.

all because of the tories:confused::rolleyes::smt071

 

We've already been there and done it and made a bloody good job of it.

[buctootim]

So by that logic should the South China sea be renamed? What about the gulf of Mexico? The irish sea? The tasman sea? The Indian ocean? The sea of Japan?

 

How arrogant.

 

You do know that these are just the names in English. Everbody has different names for places and always have done. Its no big deal that the French call London 'Londres' or we call the Russian capital 'Moscow' when they call it Mockba.

[View From The Top]

Does that mean that we can have first class health and education, a network of cheap high-speed railways and cheap wine?

 

If so, bring it on.

 

I'd vote for that!

[Thedelldays]

You do know that these are just the names in English. Everbody has different names for places and always have done. Its no big deal that the French call London 'Londres' or we call the Russian capital 'Moscow' when they call it Mockba.

isnt moscow the english translation of what they call it..?

 

not some random name..?

[JackFrost]

isnt moscow the english translation of what they call it..?

 

not some random name..?

 

yep, Russians call Moscow "Moskva" (transliterating from the Cyrillic alphabet)

[bridge too far]

isnt moscow the english translation of what they call it..?

 

not some random name..?

 

Mockba is the english version of the cyrillic alphabet which would spell out 'Moskva'. So I guess that shows we don't pronounce it as the Russians do.

 

We call our country England, the French call it 'L'Angleterre'. We call France -er - France, they call it La France. We call it 'The English Channel', they call it 'Le Manche' (literally 'the sleeve' because of its shape).

 

The Spanish call it 'La Manga'.

 

We don't OWN the Channel anymore than the French do. Does it matter what it's called in the scheme of things?

[Thedelldays]

We don't OWN the Channel anymore than the French do. Does it matter what it's called in the scheme of things?

nothing....was just saying ffs

[miserableoldgit]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263468/Eurocrats-want-spend-1-1m-changing-English-Channels-Le-Pond.html

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263468/Eurocrats-want-spend-1-1m-changing-English-Channels-Le-Pond.html

 

"AAAARRRGGGHH Spitfires and outrage!!!!!"

 

MOG, look at the source it comes from! Of course they are going to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

Edited 5 April, 2010 by Thorpe-le-Saint

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

We've already been there and done it and made a bloody good job of it.

 

Quote of this millenium so far - nothing will/can beat that.

[dubai_phil]

Thin end of the wedge.

 

First it is the naming rights. We all know that eventually it will be called Le Channel de France Telecom or perhaps The Virgin Atlantic Link.

 

Personally IMHO we should (oops, you) should let Johnny Foreigner do what they want, but then take a leaf out of the Iranians Book of "new made up rules" and just confiscate every boat or plane that arrives in UK with anything other than the English Channel on it's maps. Stick them up on e-bay and you'll clear the National Debt in a couple of weeks. much better than all that tax nonsense they talk about.

 

How the Iranians do it

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61L2EI20100222

 

 

:-)

[Weston Saint]

What utter nonsense. Typical Daily Mail.

 

A pond is a formation of static water either man made or natural.

 

Just call it the Channel or even the European Channel if our european friends are offended by "English" Channel.

 

Can't you tell a General Election is close by!!

[dune]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263468/Eurocrats-want-spend-1-1m-changing-English-Channels-Le-Pond.html

 

Under the plans, Southern England, from Cornwall to Kent, is joined with northern France and becomes known as the TransManche zone.

 

Its capital is Paris and it has its own socialist president, Alain Le Vern

 

It makes me sick.:mad:

 

I might have known the Socialist scum were behind it.

[dubai_phil]

What utter nonsense. Typical Daily Mail.

 

A pond is a formation of static water either man made or natural.

 

Just call it the Channel or even the European Channel if our european friends are offended by "English" Channel.

 

Can't you tell a General Election is close by!!

 

I thought that there was already a Pond.

 

Isn't it the think that frequent flyers hop across on their way to North America?

[Weston Saint]

Under the plans, Southern England, from Cornwall to Kent, is joined with northern France and becomes known as the TransManche zone.

 

Its capital is Paris and it has its own socialist president, Alain Le Vern

 

It makes me sick.:mad:

 

I might have known the Socialist scum were behind it.

 

Tapping into the prejudices

Rising to the bait

Inciting hatred

Selective reasoning

 

[dubai_phil]

Is it just me or is this a repeat?

 

Did it not all happen before?

 

[dune]

Tapping into the prejudices

Rising to the bait

Inciting hatred

Selective reasoning

 

 

You may well laugh but the Mail and the Express are spot on when it come to Europe. The EU is a Trojan horse designed to create a Franco-German superstate. They keep chipping away at our laws and our culture and now they've downgraded our nation into regions of the superstate.

[aintforever]

Mockba is the english version of the cyrillic alphabet which would spell out 'Moskva'. So I guess that shows we don't pronounce it as the Russians do.

 

We call our country England, the French call it 'L'Angleterre'. We call France -er - France, they call it La France. We call it 'The English Channel', they call it 'Le Manche' (literally 'the sleeve' because of its shape).

 

The Spanish call it 'La Manga'.

 

We don't OWN the Channel anymore than the French do. Does it matter what it's called in the scheme of things?

 

It's obviously The Mail making a fuss about nothing but for the sake of argument.

 

1. If it doesn't matter what it's called - why change it?

 

2. Countries have different names for other countries cities etc, but the EU governs us, it is OUR government (supposedly) changing the name.

[solentstars]

Tapping into the prejudices

Rising to the bait

Inciting hatred

Selective reasoning

 

your right weston,he,s always on the wind up,no ones that dopey.

he should be on the teletubbies in la la land with like minded individuals

i,ve got more important things to worry about like -will we :Dbeat the orient.

[solentstars]

You may well laugh but the Mail and the Express are spot on when it come to Europe. The EU is a Trojan horse designed to create a Franco-German superstate. They keep chipping away at our laws and our culture and now they've downgraded our nation into regions of the superstate.

 

ha ha roll on the superstate then

[St Landrew]

I thought it was already called La Manche?

 

Yep. Of course we've never told the French it's Le Channel de Angleterre [said in best Franglais].

[BadgerBadger]

who gives a flying ****, as long as they stop trying to get me to eat straight fruit they can call it le bum bandit for all I care

[solentstars]

who gives a flying ****, as long as they stop trying to get me to eat straight fruit they can call it le bum bandit for all I care

nice one son your like me who lives in the realworld rather then those fantasy nutters:D

[Wade Garrett]

Murdoch's papers are going overboard in their support for the Tories. They've even got the soldier with a VC on the payroll now.

[buctootim]

What a load of ********. Its just a way of directing infrastructure funding to regions which have close trade and transport links. Anyway its old news, the EU funding programme INTERREG has been using the model for over 10 years. The Daily Mail even got wet knickers about the same issue 3 years ago. Just panic mongering before an election.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-403522/New-map-Britain-makes-Kent-France--German-idea.html

Edited 5 April, 2010 by buctootim

[benjii]

How do you "downgrade" sea anyway?

[TopGun]

The EU no longer recognised the name of the bit of water between england and France known as the English channel

 

They have renamed it Le Pond in their new atlas and say that 1000 years of history has come to and end

 

What a f***king tosspot thread. I hate it when Dull Days tries and plays politics as he is a Daily Mail reading **** with an IQ of 70.

 

And I'm being nice today! :-)

[Wes Tender]

nice one son your like me who lives in the realworld rather then those fantasy nutters:D

 

I wonder whether the European Super State will also be changing us all to speak German or French eventually? And if so, will your use of the language's grammar improve, or will it still be at primary school level?

[miserableoldgit]

I wonder whether the European Super State will also be changing us all to speak German or French eventually? And if so, will your use of the language's grammar improve, or will it still be at primary school level?

Correct grammar is not important if you "live in the real world" and is only for wimps and old people - apparently.

[solentstars]

I wonder whether the European Super State will also be changing us all to speak German or French eventually? And if so, will your use of the language's grammar improve, or will it still be at primary school level?

he he i love what is important to you ,are you a teacher by any chance.

[Wes Tender]

Correct grammar is not important if you "live in the real world" and is only for wimps and old people - apparently.

 

That is the line put about by all those whose prowess with grammar is well below par, either because they had poor teachers, were poor pupils, or just plain thick. Mind you, poor teachers is not a valid excuse really, as it is not beyond anybody to catch up by reading books.

 

Unfortunately for those poor saps whose grasp of the English language is so poor, a lot of the old people they disparage are employers, so their job prospects are slight or non-existant should they apply for a position where language skills are necessary.

[miserableoldgit]

That is the line put about by all those whose prowess with grammar is well below par, either because they had poor teachers, were poor pupils, or just plain thick. Mind you, poor teachers is not a valid excuse really, as it is not beyond anybody to catch up by reading books.

 

Unfortunately for those poor saps whose grasp of the English language is so poor, a lot of the old people they disparage are employers, so their job prospects are slight or non-existant should they apply for a position where language skills are necessary.

Spot on.

[Wes Tender]

he he i love what is important to you ,are you a teacher by any chance.

 

No, I am not. You might reach that conclusion for much the same reason that I might ask whether you are still a juvenile.

 

The importance of something like good use of language, is the impression it gives to others, isn't it?

[bridge too far]

That is the line put about by all those whose prowess with grammar is well below par, either because they had poor teachers, were poor pupils, or just plain thick. Mind you, poor teachers is not a valid excuse really, as it is not beyond anybody to catch up by reading books.

 

Unfortunately for those poor saps whose grasp of the English language is so poor, a lot of the old people they disparage are employers, so their job prospects are slight or non-existant should they apply for a position where language skills are necessary.

 

Oops :oops:

 

[solentstars]

Oops :oops:

 

 

nice one, poor old wes:D

[Wes Tender]

nice one, poor old Wes:D

 

You have to laugh at the brass neck that you have. I make a small spelling mistake, a common enough one at that, whereas your garbled post lacked both puncuation and correct spelling.

 

I've corrected it, so that if you have the aptitude to learn, you will be able to improve yourself.

 

Before

nice one son your like me who lives in the realworld rather then those fantasy nutters

 

After

Nice one, son. You're like me and live in the real World, rather than one inhabited by those fantasy nutters.

[buctootim]

You have to laugh at the brass neck that you have. I make a small spelling mistake, a common enough one at that, whereas your garbled post lacked both puncuation and correct spelling.

 

I've corrected it, so that if you have the aptitude to learn, you will be able to improve yourself.

 

Before

 

 

After

 

 

Besides the spelling mistake there are at least two grammatical errors in your short piece too Wes.

 

"either because they had poor teachers, were poor pupils, or are just plain thick. Mind you, poor teaching is not a valid excuse really".

 

It's one thing to be a dull pedant, but if you are going to make that special effort to appear to have superior communication skills - at least ensure you don't make schoolboy errors.

Edited 6 April, 2010 by buctootim

[bridge too far]

Besides the spelling mistake there are at least two grammatical errors in your short piece too Wes.

 

"either because they had poor teachers, were poor pupils, or are just plain thick. Mind you, poor teaching is not a valid excuse really".

 

 

Its one thing to be a dull pendant, but if you are going to make that special effort to appear to have superior communication skills - at least make sure you don't make schoolboy errors.

 

Oh oh oh

[buctootim]

Oh oh oh

 

I know! Dull pedant BTF!

[Wes Tender]

Besides the spelling mistake there are at least two grammatical errors in your short piece too Wes.

 

"either because they had poor teachers, were poor pupils, or are just plain thick. Mind you, poor teaching is not a valid excuse really".

 

 

It's one thing to be a dull pendant, but if you are going to make that special effort to appear to have superior communication skills - at least ensure you don't make schoolboy errors.

 

There are a couple of errors in your response too, Tim.

 

There ought to be commas after mistake and too.

 

So you're not that superior either.

 

But at least I'm sure that what we both write is easily understandable by most, instead of resembling something that would be texted on a mobile phone.

[buctootim]

There are a couple of errors in your response too, Tim.

 

There ought to be commas after mistake and too.

 

So you're not that superior either.

 

But at least I'm sure that what we both write is easily understandable by most, instead of resembling something that would be texted on a mobile phone.

 

Fair enough Wes. I agree intelligibility is the most important thing.

[Wes Tender]

Fair enough Wes. I agree intelligibility is the most important thing.

Truce?

[solentstars]

at least it proves to me this thread was nonsense from the start to the finish but it made me laugh.

[miserableoldgit]

at least it proves to me this thread was nonsense from the start to the finish but it made me laugh.

...but didn`t improve on your use of capital letters or punctuation.