acersaint Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Good posting Chrisobee. It does my head in when the gormless twits start their inane ravings when we don't win a game. Would I like us to make the playoffs of course I would but if we don't you still won't be able to wipe the smile of my face. Alan Pardew has shown beyond any reasonable doubt that he has the measure of this league and hopefully the championship. His signings and tactics plus a great attitude which permeates down to the players will be rewarded next season with automatic promotion. Let's get behind him and stop dissecting every result that isn't a win. Come on the progress this season is truly more than we could have hoped for last August. Being a Saint makes me smile. Try it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Same old inane comments about next season from same old inane people. I'll ask again, for about the 50th time : What is going to change about our ability to grind out results in mid-week, mid-winter L1 sh*tholes between this season and next ?? Tonight 2 points were lost down to poor tactical choices and an injury to our only creative midfielder. How are these things not going to happen next season ? Still waiting for an answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 its entirely possible that we will, after a terrible start to the season with a poor squad, finish within 10 points of automatic promotion. Not everything is perfect, but then football would be pretty dull if everything was predictable. I think we will end up with about 75 Points which with the 10 point deduction and the JPT Trophy a pretty good season. Things would have been a lot better if we had had a better start to the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Yep, winning the JPT is just like a woman giving her husband the best blow-job he's ever had then as he is basking in the post-coital afterglow, she tells him she's written off his BMW... "woman gives husband blowjob"??? just a heads up, the female of our species develops lockjaw as soon as that rings on her finger. hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Same old inane comments about next season from same old inane people. I'll ask again, for about the 50th time : What is going to change about our ability to grind out results in mid-week, mid-winter L1 sh*tholes between this season and next ?? Tonight 2 points were lost down to poor tactical choices and an injury to our only creative midfielder. How are these things not going to happen next season ? Still waiting for an answer... Of course they are going to happen that is football but it is very likely without the deduction we will secure 85 points this season Which after our poor start is very good I would have thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Same old inane comments about next season from same old inane people. I'll ask again, for about the 50th time : What is going to change about our ability to grind out results in mid-week, mid-winter L1 sh*tholes between this season and next ?? Tonight 2 points were lost down to poor tactical choices and an injury to our only creative midfielder. How are these things not going to happen next season ? Still waiting for an answer... I know where you're coming from with respect to struggling in these sort of games, but when all's said and done 2-2 is not a terrible result under the circumstances. Why is it that we were able to turn over so many big teams at The Dell? On paper we wouldn't have had a prayer, but football doesn't work out like that. The problem is of course that we are on such a tight rope now and really can't afford to drop any more points. We have to make a net gain of 11 points over 8 games, assuming the teams in 6-9th positions stutter badly. Our goal difference is champion and will save us one point anyway. Chances of getting in the playoff positions now - probably about 15-20%. But there is hope. Next season will be AP's version of Burley's 06/07 - he knows that there has been a complete lack of a winning culture at the club for years and years (I posted on this last year) and so it will take time. I know that the results seem to be the same old, same old - but honestly, do you feel that we are going backwards like we were under GB? I certainly don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 I know full well where we are. What's your point? I've said all season that I would give Pardew 2 years to get us out this league before I would want him replaced. So because people are not honouring your time scale they should 'shut up', ****. Its all about opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Same old inane comments about next season from same old inane people. I'll ask again, for about the 50th time : What is going to change about our ability to grind out results in mid-week, mid-winter L1 sh*tholes between this season and next ?? Tonight 2 points were lost down to poor tactical choices and an injury to our only creative midfielder. How are these things not going to happen next season ? Still waiting for an answer... We'll have better refs next season and a dryer winter, hope that answers your question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Far out... this has been the most enjoyable season for FERKIN AGES. We win more often then not - we have won our first silverware in ages (34 years - MY LIFETIME !!!! - try telling all the other league 2 and 1 teams is a tin pot trophy ) Miserable sod... Rome wasn't built in a day. As a team we have needed this season to get back the passion, the desire and the actual ability to win. I think there's too many Premier/Championship manager players out there thinking it's as easy as clickingn a button. What ever happened to supporting your team thru thick and thin ? We will be back - it might not be today, hell it might not even be tommorow but we will be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Certain mongs, are there are a few of them, want AP replaced but don't have a clue about who to replace him with. I'm sure they are banking of Jose wanting the challenge. Having an IQ above that of a moron I'll judge him on next season when his team has had a proper pre-season and there can be no excuses as there were for the first 10 games this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Same old inane comments about next season from same old inane people. I'll ask again, for about the 50th time : What is going to change about our ability to grind out results in mid-week, mid-winter L1 sh*tholes between this season and next ?? Tonight 2 points were lost down to poor tactical choices and an injury to our only creative midfielder. How are these things not going to happen next season ? Still waiting for an answer... Alpine, we are not the finished product yet. I still think we will see some additions to the squad and some players will be released, AP has the rest of the season to experiment, to try and deal with our weakness and ensure a good start next season. What are you suggesting ? Get a new manager ? AP has not finished the job, give him time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 COYRS Onwards and upwards towards Monday and a big win......Hoping some of the results go our way before then..... Still got the best Manager and football team in the world.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Alpine, we are not the finished product yet. I still think we will see some additions to the squad and some players will be released, AP has the rest of the season to experiment, to try and deal with our weakness and ensure a good start next season. What are you suggesting ? Get a new manager ? AP has not finished the job, give him time. Congratulations on your first Hoddle free post, now breath, it will get easier the more you do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Certain mongs, are there are a few of them, want AP replaced but don't have a clue about who to replace him with. I'm sure they are banking of Jose wanting the challenge. Having an IQ above that of a moron I'll judge him on next season when his team has had a proper pre-season and there can be no excuses as there were for the first 10 games this season. Coppell or O'Niel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Let's get behind him and stop dissecting every result that isn't a win. Surely the purpose of this FOOTBALL forum is to debate the team, the players, the manager, the matches, the owner and the chairman. Is there an edict gathering strength that is going to disallow discussion on the team when it doesn't win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Coppell or O'Niel O'Neil as in Martin O'Neil, current manager at Villa? Coppell who recently stated that he wasn't sure that he wanted to go back into management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Yep, winning the JPT is just like a woman giving her husband the best blow-job he's ever had then as he is basking in the post-coital afterglow, she tells him she's written off his BMW... Actually it is nothing like it at all other than in Alpineworld. It is caled sport. You know where people go and and compete and anything can happen. We won something at last and we got an away point at a tough ground. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 (edited) Same old inane comments about next season from same old inane people. I'll ask again, for about the 50th time : What is going to change about our ability to grind out results in mid-week, mid-winter L1 sh*tholes between this season and next ?? Tonight 2 points were lost down to poor tactical choices and an injury to our only creative midfielder. How are these things not going to happen next season ? Still waiting for an answer... Poor tactical choices? We shall park the fact that you didn't see the game for a moment... So what about Sunday? What about away at Norwich and home to Leeds and Huddersfield? I would argue that Pardew gets it right more than he gets it wrong. I see the best manager in Engalnd lost in Germany the other night and another very decent manager drew at home and conceded 2 goals. Should they be sacked because they apparently "got it wrong"???? Take away the -10 points and look again. We have had a good season, fantastic in relation to the last couple of years. But you will never be satisfied will you? Even when we tool Wolves apart and stuffed them 6-0 you found something to moan about. All I can imagine is that after years of pleading your wife finally gave you a blow job only to tell you later that she has written off your car! Edited 2 April, 2010 by sadoldgit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 If you told me eight or so games into the season that at this point we'd have a slim chance of making the playoffs I wouldn't have believed you. Football can only be about trends, not individual results and the trend for Saints is that we're getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 People calling for Pardew's scalp every time we fail to win are annoying. Mind you people who claim we should back Pardew long term irrespective of resultsare equally annoying. Pardew isn't doing badly, but neither is he doing exceptionally well (as some on here seem to think). He's doing okay. Is Pardew irreplaceable? Most definately not. There are plenty of managers who wouldn't normally drop to League 1, but would make an exception for a club with such a good squad in place, such obvious ambition, and an owner with such deep pockets. Should we replace Pardew? No. He has performed okay this season, and deserves the chance to improve on that. If we are outside the top 4 by Christmas, Cortese won't take too long to make a decision. Were the moaners in the OP going completely OTT? Without a doubt, but some of the other posts on this thread which seem to make out that Pardew is irreplaceable, or a messiah, or that a 55% win ratio is amazing, or that we have overperformed this season, are just as annoying IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikee Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Alpine, you clearly get no pleasure from football - why not just find another hobby. There are a lot of fans who seem to get warped pleasure from setting their expectations so high and then moaning when they are proved right:rolleyes: It is like some bizzare form of self harming and you really shouldnt get offended when the rest of us dont share your condition. Most of us are enjoying our football more than we have for 6 years now and are happy to come along for the ride. I would be surprised if many of the moaners go to games regularly and I am getting really fed up with the black and white brigade who don't see the game but base their view entirely on the result. Win = Great, Lose or Draw = ****. There really isn't anything in between these two extremes is there. Fortunately, we know these people are a very small minority, it is just on this board that they appear to be more vocal, which say more about internet forums than AP's performance this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Coppell or O'Niel :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh, sorry, you were being serious?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 We have lost just 3 games out of the last 21 - and won at Wembley. That tells me Pardew is the right man for the job - without doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 We have lost just 3 games out of the last 21 - and won at Wembley. That tells me Pardew is the right man for the job - without doubt. you're so right, most of us can see it but unfortunately every club is littered with total berks that want it yesterday. I think (hope) the majority of the fan base can see that we're heading in the right direction now, only the berk's cannot see the bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 We have lost just 3 games out of the last 21 - and won at Wembley. That tells me Pardew is the right man for the job - without doubt. Indeed. Yet there is another manager who managed just 3 wins in 13 who got a much easier ride from the Wrist Slitting Brigade. Go figure. Probably as well that they don't support Leeds right now. Any league is tough to get out of and it doesn't help that we started the season in total rebuild mode. But without the -10 we would be strongly in with a shout and have already (and finally) won something. Of course we can do better and with more rebuilding in the summer hopefully we shall. But to call for Pardew's head and to rip him to shreads just because we draw is plainly ridiculous - espcially less than a week after the great day on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 you're so right, most of us can see it but unfortunately every club is littered with total berks that want it yesterday. I think (hope) the majority of the fan base can see that we're heading in the right direction now, only the berk's cannot see the bigger picture. Totally agree, I still think that some have no concept of the mess we were in when AP was appointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Same old inane comments about next season from same old inane people. I'll ask again, for about the 50th time : What is going to change about our ability to grind out results in mid-week, mid-winter L1 sh*tholes between this season and next ?? Tonight 2 points were lost down to poor tactical choices and an injury to our only creative midfielder. How are these things not going to happen next season ? Still waiting for an answer... A draw is a result. Next season winning at home and drawing away will be sufficient. (For most people but not for you, I suspect ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintkiptanui Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 If this place didn't exsist I would assume all Saints fans are happy with how things are going but alas this place exsists and unbelievably it seems many are not happy, these people to put it politely are utter sp*stics, probably "new" fans who expect success instantly like the glory boys that jumped on the FA cup wagon down the road, I for one cannot wait till next season and will be purchasing my first season ticket for years, I just hope Mr pardew is still around to take us to the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Our form since the first 10 games of the season has been automatic promotion form. We've picked up, on average, just over 1.9 points per game in the last 28 league games. Taking that average over the current 38 games played, and removing the 10-point deduction, that would put us in second place, three points ahead of Leeds and Millwall with a much easier run-in. We're really not doing that badly. It's very rare that a team keeps up the same intensity and consistency through the whole 46-game season, players don't stay fit or available for the whole season so there's a certain degree of chopping and changing required anyway, but with the cup runs it's appeared as though we've had to change much more regularly because of cup-tied players etc. Maintain this form to the end of the season and into next season and we'll go up, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 2 April, 2010 So because people are not honouring your time scale they should 'shut up', ****. Its all about opinions. No, I replied to his post with my opinion. He asked for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 People who dared to raise questions on here following yesterdays results have been called w*nkers, berks, retards, f**ktards, wrist-slitters, tw*ts and now sp*stics. Is there a f**king moderation of this site or not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 If this place didn't exsist I would assume all Saints fans are happy with how things are going but alas this place exsists and unbelievably it seems many are not happy, these people to put it politely are utter sp*stics, probably "new" fans who expect success instantly like the glory boys that jumped on the FA cup wagon down the road, I for one cannot wait till next season and will be purchasing my first season ticket for years, I just hope Mr pardew is still around to take us to the title. Good point Kip. The vast majority of Saints fans are loving this season. So far this season I have seen my team win 23 times at home and on the road. Last year I watched us win 7 games home and away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 2 April, 2010 People who dared to raise questions on here following yesterdays results have been called w*nkers, berks, retards, f**ktards, wrist-slitters, tw*ts and now sp*stics. Is there a f**king moderation of this site or not ? Alpine, look at the OP. They're not "raising questions" they are actually demanding Pardew leaves. Something to which you always say "nobody has actually said that". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RedAndWhite91 Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 I'll be very happy if Pardew is our manager next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Alpine, look at the OP. They're not "raising questions" they are actually demanding Pardew leaves. Something to which you always say "nobody has actually said that". And that justifies the abuse heaped against the rest of us not willing to be gushing about APs stewardship, does it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohwhenthesaints Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Our form since the first 10 games of the season has been automatic promotion form. We've picked up, on average, just over 1.9 points per game in the last 28 league games. Taking that average over the current 38 games played, and removing the 10-point deduction, that would put us in second place, three points ahead of Leeds and Millwall with a much easier run-in. We're really not doing that badly. It's very rare that a team keeps up the same intensity and consistency through the whole 46-game season, players don't stay fit or available for the whole season so there's a certain degree of chopping and changing required anyway, but with the cup runs it's appeared as though we've had to change much more regularly because of cup-tied players etc. Maintain this form to the end of the season and into next season and we'll go up, simple as that. More people need to read this. Discard the terrible start (which we haven't looked like emulating since) and we have been playing in automatic promotion form and have won a trophy. I can't see what more people want? Yes we seem to have trouble beating teams away on **** pitches but we more than make up for it by beating the likes of Norwich, Leeds and Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh, sorry, you were being serious?! Coppell and Pardew have very similar management records Coppells is obviously longer but both have managed similar teams, Pardew may just edge on calibre of club. And Pardew is our manager last time I looked so Coppell is not that many rollyeyes away from being a possibility. O'Neill I grant you is a bit of a long shot, but he is the type of character that may just look for a left field challenge. He has already questioned whether he will be at Aston Villa next. If you can offer the right type of money and the right level of ambition you can trade above your position. Cambell and Ericisson to Notts County anyone, yeah it turned out to be a tissue of lies but they joined because the money and prospects were right. For the record I don't want Pardew to go but to say there are not alternatives is not right. So stick your silly rolly eyes up your arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Just out of interest alpine, how many games have you been to see this season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Coppell and Pardew have very similar management records Coppells is obviously longer but both have managed similar teams, Pardew may just edge on calibre of club. And Pardew is our manager last time I looked so Coppell is not that many rollyeyes away from being a possibility. O'Neill I grant you is a bit of a long shot, but he is the type of character that may just look for a left field challenge. He has already questioned whether he will be at Aston Villa next. If you can offer the right type of money and the right level of ambition you can trade above your position. Cambell and Ericisson to Notts County anyone, yeah it turned out to be a tissue of lies but they joined because the money and prospects were right. For the record I don't want Pardew to go but to say there are not alternatives is not right. So stick your silly rolly eyes up your arse. gary johnson is out of work...he is a cracking manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 gary johnson is out of work...he is a cracking manager Everyone has a differing view on the ability/quality of managers, but i know lots of Bristol city fans and they have been complaining for months about him. Very easy to say any particular manager is good but in truth you will neve know how good he is until he actually manages your club. Burley is a classic example,respected in the game as good manager but never really made his mark here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Same old inane comments about next season from same old inane people. I'll ask again, for about the 50th time : What is going to change about our ability to grind out results in mid-week, mid-winter L1 sh*tholes between this season and next ?? Tonight 2 points were lost down to poor tactical choices and an injury to our only creative midfielder. How are these things not going to happen next season ? Still waiting for an answer... The difference next season is that we won't start on -10 and won't have such as terrible start to the season meaning that dawing away from home against teams with their own reasons to scrap for a result won't be some kind of horrendous failure like some people on here believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 gary johnson is out of work...he is a cracking manager I agree, he's an excellent manager but does he have the ability to bring in the players of the calibre that Pardew has? I doubt it very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 O'Neill I grant you is a bit of a long shot, but he is the type of character that may just look for a left field challenge. He has already questioned whether he will be at Aston Villa next. :smt101:smt101:smt101:smt101:smt101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 I agree, he's an excellent manager but does he have the ability to bring in the players of the calibre that Pardew has? I doubt it very much. no, probably not..but as they say (I know not all agree)..MONEY TALKS... Im sure I read that GJ was in talks with peterborough...IF he goes there, they will be a good team next season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Just out of interest alpine, how many games have you been to see this season? You won't get an answer. He prefers to zone in on other people's views (as long as that fit in with his negative viewpoint) and rehash them. Watching a live game for him only confuses the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 I agree, he's an excellent manager but does he have the ability to bring in the players of the calibre that Pardew has? I doubt it very much. Ask the Bristol City fans if they think Gary Johnson is an excellent manager.......they have been giving him stick for most the season up until he was sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Ask the Bristol City fans if they think Gary Johnson is an excellent manager.......they have been giving him stick for most the season up until he was sacked. thing is..nearly all but a very few managers will run past their sell by date. it seems GJ had just done that at brizzle..the team he took up to the CCC and nearly the prem whilst playing bloody good football in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 Ask the Bristol City fans if they think Gary Johnson is an excellent manager.......they have been giving him stick for most the season up until he was sacked. I believe he'd reached his sell by date there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 2 April, 2010 Share Posted 2 April, 2010 I believe he'd reached his sell by date there. IMO excellent managers don't reach a sell by date. They either leave a hero on their own terms (Curbs) or they jump ship when a better option becomes availible No one knows what impact he would have here and I just wonder on what merits people think he is "excellent" and a better alternative to AP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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