the stain Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Also 'Wikipedia'? Why does nobody call this one as a terrible trampling of our glorious linguistic heritage? Are we all just parochial tossers who can't spell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 23 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2008 'kilter' Let he who is without sin etc. I'll take this up with my Yorkie mate who taught me how to spell it when I first heard him use the word! Thanks to you for the correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 23 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Because there was an intervening stage. Have a look on Wikipedia (as I should've done before shooting from the lip) Oooooops! Couldn't resist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Oooooops! Couldn't resist! It is hip, not lip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 This also came up in conversation. Opinion at the school was that Haitch is the choice as it enunciates the letter it represents. Aitch without pronouncing the 'h' at the start. Herbs with pronouncing the 'h' at the start. Americans and English, two nations separated by a common language. i cringe when i hear someone say haitch!!! :smt021 Thanks guys. You've restored my faith that people still care about the core of the UK culture; the language. By the way, the school is completely wrong. To say the letter H, in the context of sounding out the alphabet, it is indeed pronounced [as DSM has shown], aitch. It isn't a matter of opinion. It is correct, and the school is incorrect. Tell them so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Thanks guys. You've restored my faith that people still care about the core of the UK culture; the language. By the way, the school is completely wrong. To say the letter H, in the context of sounding out the alphabet, it is indeed pronounced [as DSM has shown], aitch. It isn't a matter of opinion. It is correct, and the school is incorrect. Tell them so. I have arranged a sign for them to read on their way home... http://atom.smasher.org/highway/?l1=It%27s+pronounced+aitch&l2=you+pilchards+not&l3=haitch.+And+its+Zed&l4=not+Zee%21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 23 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Thanks guys. You've restored my faith that people still care about the core of the UK culture; the language. By the way, the school is completely wrong. To say the letter H, in the context of sounding out the alphabet, it is indeed pronounced [as DSM has shown], aitch. It isn't a matter of opinion. It is correct, and the school is incorrect. Tell them so. Do you know what? I've printed this all off and I'm going to march in there and ask to talk to the head teacher, double pronto! I'll tell her that she can't mess with us SWF Lounge Lizards! That'll tell her! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Do you know what? I've printed this all off and I'm going to march in there and ask to talk to the head teacher, double pronto! I'll tell her that she can't mess with us SWF Lounge Lizards! That'll tell her! Tut tut, 'that'll learn her' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 It's 'tards by the way Oh and ZED, ZEE is what stupid Americans say. It is also what the rest of Americans say - the vast majority of them not being stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 It is also what the rest of Americans say - the vast majority of them not being stupid. You're saying that about a nation who think that 'Irony' is how you describe something that is a bit metallic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Having lived over here for 16 years now, I have adapted to the local language. I resisted for many years - still often say tomahto not tomayto, but usually shedule rather than skedule. On here, I try to use 's' rather than 'z' in words like realise. We are two countries divided by a common language. But, ESB, Zed is the way to go in England. My children have a lot of fun when I say things in an English way but they have American accents and will say zee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoswellSaint Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 You're saying that about a nation who think that 'Irony' is how you describe something that is a bit metallic. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 You're saying that about a nation who think that 'Irony' is how you describe something that is a bit metallic. :smt046!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicko Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Zeebras are awesome! Americans are daft They see a black & white animal and probably think he has mixed race parents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 23 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Do you know what? I've printed this all off and I'm going to march in there and ask to talk to the head teacher, double pronto! I'll tell her that she can't mess with us SWF Lounge Lizards! That'll tell her! Well! she wouldn't see me until she had confirmation that I had acquainted AwaySaint of all the information held on computer by the government on myself and my ex-wife/wife/partner/female friend/live-in lover/mother of my son! More seriously, she's not there today (probably gone into hiding, knowing us Lounge Lizards are on her linguistic tail!) It is hip, not lip. Of that, my friend, I am aware. Thank you nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 23 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 23 September, 2008 Zeebras are awesome! Americans are daft They see a black & white animal and probably think he has mixed race parents There are some people on here who would think that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 I have arranged a sign for them to read on their way home... http://atom.smasher.org/highway/?l1=It%27s+pronounced+aitch&l2=you+pilchards+not&l3=haitch.+And+its+Zed&l4=not+Zee%21 That's probably why the teacher is teaching the word "Zee" if she has to drive home to America everyday :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 23 September, 2008 Share Posted 23 September, 2008 That's probably why the teacher is teaching the word "Zee" if she has to drive home to America everyday :shock: ... technicalities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbul Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 My 7 year son has recently started year two at his school. While testing his spelling yesterday we came upon him using ZEE as opposed to ZED when spelling squeeze. Now there are two separate classes in his year. My wife inquired of the other Mums and found that the two classes are being taught this differently. So before I make a fool of myself and approach my son's teacher, is there a standard which is applicable? Or are we open to an individual teacher's take on the ENGLISH alphabet? I believe that English is a lovely language when spoken and pronounced correctly. I'm already aware that some silly boffins are actually advocating the use of Text Spell in the classroom! So, before I take up the cudgel on behalf of the people who wish to speak and spell English correctly, am I out of kelter on this? I don't wish to see our children 'payntin there faciz all different colors 2 celebr8 labor day'! Are they teaching Intelligent Design too? It's zed. And aitch. I remember when I first saw My Cousin Vinny and Vinny got a suit from a shop called E-Z Credit, I thought 'What the f*** does E-zed credit mean??' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 24 September, 2008 Share Posted 24 September, 2008 Tut tut, 'that'll learn her' Tsk tsk. That's another Americanism; possibly even an Antipodiism. It's that'll teach her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 25 September, 2008 Share Posted 25 September, 2008 We shouldn't complain really. At least we, and our children, know that zed is zee, that mobile is cellphone, that trunk is boot and that hood is bonnet. An American child would think you were Greek if you asked them to, "Get the zed-bed out of the boot of the car. Oh and could you pick my mobile up off the bonnet? Thanks". We have the best of both worlds. We use the language properly, yet understand the Americanisms. If we excluded our kids from hearing or learning any they'd be no wiser than our brethren across the pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 25 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 25 September, 2008 I have finally spoken to both teachers of the classes in my boy's year. I had an informal chat with the senior of the two first who was surprised that the children had not been picked up on the 'zee'. We then spoke to my boy's teacher who explained that it was a hangover from them learning the alphabet from a song (we all know the one) and that she was thankful for us pointing it out. She has written a large red 'ZED' on the board and will be broaching the issue with the little ones tomorrow. Both teachers are in full agreement that the children should be taught, and learn, correct English. One satisfied SoulBoy at last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 25 September, 2008 Share Posted 25 September, 2008 I have finally spoken to both teachers of the classes in my boy's year. I had an informal chat with the senior of the two first who was surprised that the children had not been picked up on the 'zee'. We then spoke to my boy's teacher who explained that it was a hangover from them learning the alphabet from a song (we all know the one) and that she was thankful for us pointing it out. She has written a large red 'ZED' on the board and will be broaching the issue with the little ones tomorrow. Both teachers are in full agreement that the children should be taught, and learn, correct English. One satisfied SoulBoy at last! ahhh, i just LOVE happy endings!! :smt052 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 25 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 25 September, 2008 Thanks Saint Boggy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 25 September, 2008 Share Posted 25 September, 2008 Still think the teachers at laughing at you. NFPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 25 September, 2008 Author Share Posted 25 September, 2008 Still think the teachers at laughing at you. NFPS. Oh dear! You're starting to make me worry now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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