Ian Huntley

[Jillyanne]

shame hs isn't brown bread

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8579226.stm

[Saint_clark]

Shame, I thought I heard that he'd died on the radio earlier. Nevermind.

[Colinjb]

What a waste of taxpayers money. Keeping him alive.

[ART]

Dying would be too kind a fate for him. Let him live through the constant threat of more attacks like this so that he's constantly tormented as much and more than he tormented those beautiful defenceless young girls. Dying or suicide would bring him relief from his dirty sick deeds.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Dying would be too kind a fate for him. Let him live through the constant threat of more attacks like this so that he's constantly tormented as much and more than he tormented those beautiful defenceless young girls. Dying or suicide would bring him relief from his dirty sick deeds.

 

Exactly.

[Colinjb]

Dying would be too kind a fate for him. Let him live through the constant threat of more attacks like this so that he's constantly tormented as much and more than he tormented those beautiful defenceless young girls. Dying or suicide would bring him relief from his dirty sick deeds.

 

I would like to agree with you, but the greater good would be for him to be 'stricken from the record.'

[Arizona]

Dying would be too kind a fate for him. Let him live through the constant threat of more attacks like this so that he's constantly tormented as much and more than he tormented those beautiful defenceless young girls. Dying or suicide would bring him relief from his dirty sick deeds.

 

I love how people make this claim without actually having any concept of what lies beyond death. The two most widely held beliefs, based on very little, are the religious fate of eternal damnation, or the atheist fate of eternal nothingness. Can't really say there's an upside to either of them myself.

 

Personally, I'd happily see him executed. Life in prison is just a complete drain on society. I think most people would be happy enough with one less evil in the world.

[Saint in Paradise]

You should all be ashamed for wanting him dead, ask Robsk he will not like you

 

As for myself I couldn't agree more with all of you, counterfeit humans like him and Venebels ( or however

you spell its name ) should be put to death.

[LVSaint]

As for myself I couldn't agree more with all of you, counterfeit humans like him and Venebels ( or however

you spell its name ) should be put to death.

 

Yes, we should start killing ten year olds. Well done.

[Saint in Paradise]

Yes, we should start killing ten year olds. Well done.

 

Pleased that you agree with me.

[Guest Dark Sotonic Mills]

I love how people make this claim without actually having any concept of what lies beyond death. The two most widely held beliefs, based on very little, are the religious fate of eternal damnation, or the atheist fate of eternal nothingness. Can't really say there's an upside to either of them myself.

 

Personally, I'd happily see him executed. Life in prison is just a complete drain on society. I think most people would be happy enough with one less evil in the world.

 

Unfortunately, you've fallen foul to a very common misconception. It costs a huge amount to execute a prisoner, with all the attendant legal costs, than it does to keep someone in prison for life.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

I despise him and his like, however, due to the crazy world we live in he will now receive tens of thousands of pounds in compensation due to the guards 'failure' to protect him, sometimes the threat of attack is more damaging than the act, that said, if the opportunity presented itself to cause him a % of the harm that he inflicted on those girls and their families I would not hesitate.

[Dog]

Everyone deserves a second chance :toimonster:

[Dog]

[Arizona]

Unfortunately, you've fallen foul to a very common misconception. It costs a huge amount to execute a prisoner, with all the attendant legal costs, than it does to keep someone in prison for life.

 

I know it probably would in the current system, but it shouldn't. There is something wrong with the system if it would cost more for a Judge to say, "hang the fecker" than it would to keep them incarcerated for 50 odd years.

[Redbul]

I hope something like this happens to the f***er every year or so so that he's tormented and tortured until he final shuffles off in an excruciatingly slow and painful death. A Death by a Thousand Cuts kind of scenario, spaced just long enough apart for him to think he's safe and people have forgotten.

 

This post brought to you by Redbul and his liberal leanings.

[RedAndWhite91]

I'd like to introduce him to my cricket bat.

[CB Saint]

They should remove segregation for him and his type. Chuck them in general population of a category A prison. Everyone wins. The victim knows that eventually justice will be served and the taxpayer saves a fortune.

[bridge too far]

Given that he's tried to commit suicide a number of times, I would have thought keeping him in prison for the rest of his life would be a far worse punishment.

 

Isn't that what you all want?

[Dog]

My nephew goes to Soham school - true story

[Kadeem Hardison]

I love how people make this claim without actually having any concept of what lies beyond death. The two most widely held beliefs, based on very little, are the religious fate of eternal damnation, or the atheist fate of eternal nothingness. Can't really say there's an upside to either of them myself.

 

I think that all paedos and child killers should be subjected to eternal damnation. But it's all too sketchy for me. What if the criteria for getting in to heaven is not what we think? What if, just before he dies, he confesses his sins to Our Lord and is absolved in the eyes of the God. We don't want him going to heaven with all the ambrosia and nectar and virgins. Or should we want that, if that is what God wants? Also, I heard that he was doing voodoo some time back. Who's to say that he has made some sort of pact with the devil and so his time in hell would be spent by the side of Satan, helping him do bad things, which he'd ultimately enjoy, wouldn't he? I just don't know that this is the right route to take, Arizona. Maybe one of us would need to do a deal with the Lord/the Devil to make sure that he gets the punishment he deserves, irrespective of any deals that he has made with either party?

[hamster]

Given that he's tried to commit suicide a number of times, I would have thought keeping him in prison for the rest of his life would be a far worse punishment.

 

Isn't that what you all want?

 

I think I get this B, but indulge me. Do you believe that people who would use the death penalty option based on the 'punishment' or the 'eye for an eye' logic have actually got it all arse about face (apologies for couseness)? Do you think that people's consciences and/or their guilt (be it genuine remorse or a God given thing) actually get their just desserts more by being kept alive? Makes sense to me if that is what people's motives are 9ie punishment). I also think that some (only some) don;t get the irony of that poise.

[hamster]

I think that all paedos and child killers should be subjected to eternal damnation. But it's all too sketchy for me. What if the criteria for getting in to heaven is not what we think? What if, just before he dies, he confesses his sins to Our Lord and is absolved in the eyes of the God. We don't want him going to heaven with all the ambrosia and nectar and virgins. Or should we want that, if that is what God wants? Also, I heard that he was doing voodoo some time back. Who's to say that he has made some sort of pact with the devil and so his time in hell would be spent by the side of Satan, helping him do bad things, which he'd ultimately enjoy, wouldn't he? I just don't know that this is the right route to take, Arizona. Maybe one of us would need to do a deal with the Lord/the Devil to make sure that he gets the punishment he deserves, irrespective of any deals that he has made with either party?

 

That is, in my very humble opinion, brilliantly put. There was an old Hammer Horror prog that touched on this 'one man's hell is another man's heaven' slant, although they used the example of some dingy underground jazz club, with one record playing over and over and over. fwiw, I believe that (something like) a heaven and (something like) a hell are within us whilst we are 'alive' and conscious of them. At any given time we are all somewhere between the two. One inflience over that point is down to outside influeces but the primary influence comes from within us.

[bridge too far]

Hello H - glad you got back OK.

 

I don't 'believe' so I don't believe in divine retribution or salvation. I do think people should be punished if they commit a crime but that there should be a) room for manoeuvre should there have been a miscarriage of justice b) an opportunity for the prisoner to look to change his / her life through education (both academic and social), psychotherapy and training - although in Huntley's case I can't ever see him being released.

 

I don't personally uphold the 'eye for an eye' school of thought. If I did - if I did want such a criminal put to death - then I'm sinking to his base level.

 

I equally don't hold with individuals in society acting as judge, jury and executioner by carrying out unauthorised punishments.

 

But whether I've answered your question........

[John B]

Given that he's tried to commit suicide a number of times, I would have thought keeping him in prison for the rest of his life would be a far worse punishment.

 

Isn't that what you all want?

 

That is how I see it too

[Atticus Finch of Maycomb]

 

i never really understood what was funny about this joke. the picture actually looks nothing like the newsreader

 

this one is funnier:

 

[for_heaven's_Saint]

I love how people make this claim without actually having any concept of what lies beyond death. The two most widely held beliefs, based on very little, are the religious fate of eternal damnation, or the atheist fate of eternal nothingness. Can't really say there's an upside to either of them myself.

 

Personally, I'd happily see him executed. Life in prison is just a complete drain on society. I think most people would be happy enough with one less evil in the world.

 

Yeah but by keeping him alive, he can suffer now and for eternity.

[Dog]

Yeah but by keeping him alive' date=' he can suffer now [i']and[/i] for eternity.

 

I'm afraid that statement is very wrong in the mind of a serial killer, they love the attention and never have any remorse. They don't really think that they have done anything wrong in the first place, and their ultimate murder in life would be to commit suicide which is what all serial killers aim to do.

 

Fred West was the best, big up your chest.

 

Fred Wests dream killing was to kill himself.

[Kev]

I'm afraid that statement is very wrong in the mind of a serial killer, they love the attention and never have any remorse. They don't really think that they have done anything wrong in the first place, and their ultimate murder in life would be to commit suicide which is what all serial killers aim to do.

 

*force feeds Ian Brady*

[benjii]

I'm afraid that statement is very wrong in the mind of a serial killer, they love the attention and never have any remorse. They don't really think that they have done anything wrong in the first place, and their ultimate murder in life would be to commit suicide which is what all serial killers aim to do.

 

Fred West was the best, big up your chest.

 

Fred Wests dream killing was to kill himself.

 

That's great but Ian Huntley isn't a serial killer so it's not very relevant.

 

That news reader picture is bloody funny though.

[Arizona]

Yeah but by keeping him alive' date=' he can suffer now [i']and[/i] for eternity.

 

Which is bigger; infinity or infinity plus one?

 

There is nothing to be gained from keeping him alive.

[greg_hill]

I love how people make this claim without actually having any concept of what lies beyond death. The two most widely held beliefs, based on very little, are the religious fate of eternal damnation, or the atheist fate of eternal nothingness. Can't really say there's an upside to either of them myself.

 

Personally, I'd happily see him executed. Life in prison is just a complete drain on society. I think most people would be happy enough with one less evil in the world.

 

Eternal nothingness means no positivity or negativity. Huntley is in a state of negativity with no real hope of leaving that state. So from his view, there is a benefit to death.

[Bad Wolf]

I think he should be put in a cell for an hour with each girls father and a weapon of their choice...

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Which is bigger; infinity or infinity plus one?

 

There is nothing to be gained from keeping him alive.

 

If I were one of the girls' parents, I think I'd rather I knew he was alive and suffering, rather than dead and perhaps burning in hell, or possibly just out of his misery.

 

I take your point though.

[Arizona]

If I were one of the girls' parents, I think I'd rather I knew he was alive and suffering, rather than dead and perhaps burning in hell, or possibly just out of his misery.

 

I take your point though.

 

Hopefully I will never be in their shoes. However if I were, I personally wouldn't feel exectuion was an easy way out.

 

See your point too, each to their own.

[Block 5]

It's remarkable how many of you belong in the Middle Ages.

[Dog]

That's great but Ian Huntley isn't a serial killer so it's not very relevant.

 

That news reader picture is bloody funny though.

 

 

 

He didn't have time.

[tonibell]

Today l sent a £10 postal order to

Mr Damien Fowkes

Hmp Frankland

Brasside

Durham

DH1 5YD

and a quick letter.

Maybe l have gone a bit nutty. I let you know if l get a reply back

[buctootim]

Today l sent a £10 postal order to

Mr Damien Fowkes

Hmp Frankland

Brasside

Durham

DH1 5YD

and a quick letter.

Maybe l have gone a bit nutty. I let you know if l get a reply back

 

Well done you. The actions of a total 'kin moron. A fight between a psychotic knife freak and a psychopathic child killer

doesnt need you handing out prizes to the winner.

 

Damien Fowkes was high on crack cocaine and £4,000 in debt to his drug dealer when he went on a violent spree with a 12-inch knife in Northampton in April. One terrified victim with a two-year-old child awoke to find Fowkes in her Lea Road home brandishing the knife and demanding money. After Fowkes was sentenced on Monday, Dc David Charman, from Northampton CID, said: “We are extremely satisfied with the life sentence. “The three knifepoint robberies were particularly violent and caused considerable distress. He broke into a couple’s home and threatened them in bed. “He also stole a man’s car at knifepoint, and held a knife to a man’s throat in a separate attack in a bid to steal jewellery and cash. “Crack cocaine has once again been shown to be the source of serious crime. The life sentence reflects the seriousness of these offences and we hope the victims will take some comfort from this. “Fowkes was a prolific offender and hopefully the streets of Northampton will now be somewhat safer without him.” At Northampton Crown Court on Monday, Judge Richard Bray told Fowkes, of Cambourne Close, Far Cotton, that the 27-year-old addict’s previous convictions for violent robberies and his mental instability meant a life sentence was justified. Judge Bray said: “One cannot imagine the terror these offences caused to the victims who thought they could be killed at any moment.”

Edited 23 March, 2010 by buctootim

[Dog]

Today l sent a £10 postal order to

Mr Damien Fowkes

Hmp Frankland

Brasside

Durham

DH1 5YD

and a quick letter.

Maybe l have gone a bit nutty. I let you know if l get a reply back

 

Why did you send him money?

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Misguided tb, even more so for wanting a reply, though I have seen the sort who correspond with such people

[tonibell]

well done you. The actions of a total 'kin moron.

 

Damien fowkes was high on crack cocaine and £4,000 in debt to his drug dealer when he went on a violent spree with a 12-inch knife in northampton in april.

 

maybe he could buy a rock

[hypochondriac]

Seems a little harsh to get a life sentence. A long sentence sure.

[hypochondriac]

Any idea if anyone found out in the end why Ian Huntley killed the girls? I never saw anything at the time which explained the motivation.

[buctootim]

maybe he could buy a rock

 

Mebbe. Then perhaps he can try and take down the literacy tutor or the Chaplain.

[buctootim]

Any idea if anyone found out in the end why Ian Huntley killed the girls? I never saw anything at the time which explained the motivation.

 

Don't think anyone really knows, it was all supposition even at the time.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1449117/Huntley-driven-by-a-sexual-motive-says-QC.html

[thesaint sfc]

I'd rather he died as he wouldn't be costing the tax payer diddly squat then.

[mack rill]

Rumor had it the two girls had maid fun at his bird in the class room.

[Wiltshire Saint]

Today l sent a £10 postal order to

Mr Damien Fowkes

Hmp Frankland

Brasside

Durham

DH1 5YD

and a quick letter.

Maybe l have gone a bit nutty. I let you know if l get a reply back

 

Bloody hell. Are you the new Jill? You have sent money to a man who is in prison for attacking someone with a knife in order to get cash for drugs? He sounds very deserving. What a stupid thing to do - you could have given that money to a charity or to someone who is not a complete mental tw*t. This man slashed Huntleys throat and shouted "I want to be known as the man who killed Ian Huntley". So basically, this pathetic idiot attacked him because he wanted the fame - the only thing he could ever possibly be known for - and you wish to reward him. His family claim he did it for the girls who died, and that makes them just as nasty as Fowkes as they use the girls as an excuse for this thugs actions. And you have supported him - which means you're as bad a Fowkes and Huntley.

[benjii]

I'd rather he died as he wouldn't be costing the tax payer diddly squat then.

 

Indeed and hopefully everyone on benefit dies too.